Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Sept 05, 2015

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Oct 2015 02:03

The Washington challenge
Begum Beater Bole

Unfortunately, after recovering from the crisis created by America’s ‘kinetic’ actions in 2011 (Raymond Davis, the Abbottabad incursion and the Salala attack), the Pakistan-US relationship appears to be headed for another showdown.The first ominous signs emerged during US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice’s visit to Islamabad several weeks ago, during which threats of halting reimbursements for Pakistani counterterrorism operations were held out unless Islamabad acted more forcefully against the Haqqani network. Simultaneously, proposals were advanced to halt Pakistan’s long- and short-range missile programmes and fissile material production. Pakistan was also pressed to act decisively against the Lashkar-e-Taiba.The American press has reported that the US is exploring a ‘deal’ with Pakistan to limit the scope of its nuclear programme. An American arms control expert, George Perkovich, is quoted as saying: “If Pakistan would take the actions requested by the United States, it would essentially amount to recognition of rehabilitation and essentially amount to parole [!]”. But Pakistan is not in any ‘jail’ and the proposed ‘deal’ is no bargain at all. It amounts to asking Pakistan to compromise its national security in exchange for a good chit from Washington.
The only deal that can work is one that puts balanced restraints on both India and Pakistan. This is what was called for in Security Council Resolution 1172 (1998). Reciprocal restraint is what Pakistan proposed under the South Asia Mutual Restraint RegimeThe US demands reveal the deeper American alliance with India to contain the rise of China. They may be driven by the desire to score a few more diplomatic successes for Obama’s meagre legacy. They may also reflect an assumption that Pakistan’s civilian leadership is more amenable to American pressure than its military.Under the circumstances, it would have been wiser to postpone the prime minister’s Washington trip. During the visit, he will be obliged to give a firm response to the unacceptable US demands. He cannot afford another Ufa.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 19 Oct 2015 02:32

Yaa thats right!
Sartaj Aziz is too weak to go in front of Doval. So replace him with a Fauji - Retard Crore Kammandu

Nawaz sharif is too weak to go in front of Obama or Modi. Don't let him go to washington, or better still, replace him with a fauji?

Surely this whole bakwaas about "RAA wants to attack and Keel Nawaz and Mohd Saeed" is a prelude to something...

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 03:18

Lt Gen (r) Nasir Janjua likely to become PM Nawaz’s special adviser

SLAMABAD (Staff Report) – Former commander southern corps Lt General (retired) Nasir Janjua is likely to assume the position of special adviser to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.
According to highly informed sources Janjua is probably going to replace Sartaj Aziz as Prime Minister’s special adviser on national security and foreign affairs. The decision of his appointment was made during his meeting with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif this week.
Sources further added that military leadership is not satisfied with the performance of Sartaj Aziz and by replacing him with Nasir Janjua Nawaz Sharif’s government is going to appease them.
A formal announcement of his appointment is expected immediately after Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s four-day trip to United States.

Pretty sure, that a suitable slot will be "found" for the soon to be "ex special advisor"; after all, it has been reported before that this person is related to NS, and Ganja Sharif is notorious for running the Govt as his own family business/empire (AKA nepotism)

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 03:32

Minister condemns RAW’s plan to assassinate 180m people’s PM

Something is surely going to happen to NS; this "revealing news" is gathering its own momentum ; the Aam Abduls are being prepared for this scenario?

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 19 Oct 2015 03:41

From wikipedia page on Munir Akram

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This [b]biographical article is written like a résumé[/b]. Please help improve it by revising it to be neutral and encyclopedic. (March 2014)

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 03:48

Jagjit Singh And The ISI Agent
New book recounts jugalbandi between Musharraf, Jagjit
‘Former president played tabla during the performance’

NEW DELHI – A new book – Baat Niklegi Toh Phir – about the life and music of the late Indian musical maestro recounts a jugalbandi between Pervez Musharraf, a former president, and Jagjit Singh – a prominent name in the music industry.

In classical music, the jugalbandi is a performance that features a duet – either vocal or instrumental – of two solo musicians. What defines jugalbandi is that the two soloists be on an equal footing. Authored by Sathya Saran, the book revealed that Musharraf played tabla during the jugalbandi.
Mush, obviously a man of many talents including serial lying,tabla playing, coup, assasination organizer, incognito border crossing mrgreen:

It said that Jagjit drew huge crowds during his maiden trip to Pakistan in 1979 even as he remained under surveillance by an intelligence official, who incidentally turned out to be a fan. “When we went (to Pakistan), political situation was not calm, we could sense a tension. We saw a man again and again. He followed us out of the airport and we saw him again in the hotel. It was unnerving,” the book quotes Jagjit’s wife Chitra Singh as saying.

“The room bell rang. Jagjit opened the door, and the man was outside. He entered and with utmost care, he drew from inside his jacket a bottle wrapped in newspaper; he had brought alcohol as a gift since the hotel served none,” she said. Chitra also said that Pakistan had banned them from giving any performances but they had accepted a private invitation from the Press Club, where they sang to a full house.
Hope that as an hospitality gesture, he shared the sharab with his tail !

The next day, they visited Shankar Dayal Sharma’s residence, who was at that time Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan, for a private concert and what followed was a flood of invitations for the duo to perform. Chitra recalls that it was only after they showed the notice issued to them by Pakistan government, which allowed them a stay only till February 20 that they were spared of any further requests to perform.

With his music, Jagjit had earned admiration among people, captivating among others its entire cricket team. “He (Jagjit) took his son to the hotel where the cricket team from Pakistan was staying during a tour, so that he could get all their autographs. The team took turns to touch the singer’s feet. He had the knack of making every single person think he was singing solely for him,” the book quotes Kartar Singh, the youngest of Jagjit’s siblingsm as saying.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 19 Oct 2015 03:49

So Naseer Khan Janjua was the general in charge of the balochistan ops?

The pakistan army has indulged in some of the worst human rights violations under this man's leadership. This individual probably qualifies to be tried for genocide, and massa is giving him a visa to be Nawaz Sharif's chaperone? The 'Butcher of Balochistan' is now Pakistan's NSA and is going to visit the US?

The pakistanis have been dropping tortured baloch men from helicopters !

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 19 Oct 2015 04:17

Touching feet? Isn't that a uniquely Hindu custom?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Oct 2015 06:17

DG ISI meets US intelligence officials ahead of Nawaz's Washington trip
Zaawn

ISLAMABAD: Director-General (DG) Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lieutenant General Rizwan Akhtar, during his visit to Washington, has held meetings with top US intelligence officials discussing strategic issues and counter-terrorism.The DG ISI, upon his return Sunday evening, will present a report to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and brief the premier regarding details of his discussions with US officials. Nawaz is expected to depart for the US following the briefing.Speaking to BBC Urdu on Saturday, Sartaj Aziz said the purpose of Nawaz Sharif's visit to Washington is discussion of nuclear safety, not compromising on the extent of Pakistan's defence capabilities."The White House later said that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and US President Barack Obama are not going to sign a nuclear deal next week but they will discuss the nuclear issue in their meeting.Aziz said core issues to be discussed during the upcoming talks with the US include Pak-India relations, restoration of peace in Afghanistan and trade and investment opportunities.Special Assistant on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi has expressed hope that Nawaz's upcoming visit will strengthen bilateral ties with the US, Radio Pakistan reported.He said discussions with US officials regarding trade, economy, investment and energy are on the agenda, adding that Pakistan will attempt to gain access to US markets and urge American firms to invest in Pakistan.

Fatemi also said that Pakistan's nuclear programme is purely for peaceful purposes.The move was praised by the US. But the strings attached to President Obama’s offer are unlikely to be acceptable to Pakistan.Besides the discussion on the US proposal for Pakistan’s nuclear brainstreaming, Mr Sharif would be telling President Obama about what Pakistan is doing to help restart the reconciliation process that stalled after disclosure about Mullah Omar’s death, and also about what his government was doing to fight terrorism at home.“Next week, I will host Prime Minister Sharif of Pakistan, and I will continue to urge all parties in the region to press the Taliban to return to peace talks and to do their part in pursuit of the peace that Afghans deserve,” President Obama said on Thursday.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Oct 2015 07:12

Uighur militants wiped out from Pakistan: Assif
Litter of Ummah, Seeat of Khalifa

BEIJING - Pakistan has eliminated all members of the Uighur militant group the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) from its territory, but must remain vigilant to ensure they don’t return, the Pakisan defence minister said in Beijing on Sunday.“We believe they’re all eliminated,” Defence Minister Khawaja Asif told reporters on the sidelines of a security forum. “I think there (were) a small number in tribal areas, they’re all gone or eliminated. There are no more there.”It is just as much in Pakistan’s interests as China’s to fight Uighur militants, Asif said, denying there was any difference of opinion between Beijing and Islamabad on Pakistan’s efforts to tackle the problem.
“The fight against ETIM is our own fight. It’s not only China’s fight. It’s a joint fight against ETIM, between Pakistan and China, so there is absolutely no difference of opinion on the elimination of ETIM from our tribal areas,” he addedHundreds have died in unrest in Xinjiang in the past few years. Exiles and activists say Chinese controls on the religion and culture of the Uighur people is more a cause of the violence than well-organised militant groups.China and Pakistan are getting ready to finalise a deal for China to sell eight submarines to Pakistan, Asif said, in what could be one of China’s largest overseas weapons sales once it is signed.“It’s moving smoothly, it’s going ahead,” he said. “We are at the final stage. I think it won’t take very long.” The world needed to recognise the sacrifices by Pakistan over the past three decades, he stressed. Referring to South Asian security and stability, he said all disputes needed to be resolved amicably to offset chances of escalation. While Pakistan had been forcefully advocating early resumption of dialogue process with India, there was a need to reduce tension by avoiding escalation of hostilities at the Line of Control and the Working Boundary, he underscored.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 19 Oct 2015 08:50

If a coup takes place in Pakistan, it will be a real blessing for India. It looks like it is heading that way

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Oct 2015 10:04

Paul wrote:If a coup takes place in Pakistan, it will be a real blessing for India. It looks like it is heading that way

With appointment of Non Political Actor to keep tab on Ganja , Coup have already taken place.
No More Ufa Panga means No more Nawaz Ganja.

Jayram · Post by **Jayram** » 19 Oct 2015 10:33

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aparna-pa ... lp00000592
Aparna Pande telling it like it is prior to NS visit.

He argues that if the United States continues siding with India against China this will "antagonize Pakistan" and lead "the potentially scariest confrontation in the world." In effect, he is saying that Pakistan's sponsorship of jihadi groups should not come in the way of it being an American ally but the US must not ally with India because of Pakistan's fear of India!!

We must invite here here to BRF
-Jayram

member_29089 · Post by **member_29089** » 19 Oct 2015 11:45

I am beginning to like Shiv Sena. Their protests cancel the cricket talks with the Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan's Cricket Board (STUFUPCB)

BCCI - PissB

PS Manohar is from Nagpur. He should have known better.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Oct 2015 11:49

GunterH wrote:I am beginning to like Shiv Sena. Their protests cancel the cricket talks with the Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan's Cricket Board (STUFUPCB)

BCCI - PissB

PS Manohar is from Nagpur. He should have known better.

he is doing his job and playing to the international gallery.

The GOI will take the final decision and the BCCI cannot preempt that by taking a partisan view. But in the meanwhile he has to appear accommodating.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 15:04

Gus wrote:Touching feet? Isn't that a uniquely Hindu custom?

Gus- Ji: I recall reading a recent article in a Paki newspaper stating that 99% of Muslims there are descendants of Hindus; in other words "genes are the same", therefore, "Hindu customs" are born in the genes. Makes sense to me

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 20:16

Pakistan demands foolproof security for PCB delegation in India

SLAMABAD (Staff Report) – Pakistan has strongly condemned Shiv Sena attack on the BCCI headquarters in Mumbai and demanded India to provide fool proof security to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) delegation.

The Foreign Office has sought a report from Pakistani high commission in India regarding the Shiv Sena activists storming of BCCI headquarters, said a source in the Foreign Ministry on Monday.

Read more: Shiv Sena attacks Indian Cricket Board in Mumbai

source in Foreign Office said that PCB Chairman Shehryar Khan was facing life threat from Shiv Sena activists.

Pakistani High Commissioner Abdul Basit has called back the PCB chairman along with his delegation immediately to the high commission office in New Delhi.

Are they in any position to DEMAND anything?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 19 Oct 2015 20:33

180 out of over 13000 seminaries in Pakjab are being monitored.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-5 ... -monitored

The Law Enforcement Agencies (LEAs) have started monitoring bank accounts and other financial transactions of over 180 suspected seminaries of Punjab.
...
Declining to be named, a senior official at Punjab Home Department talking to The News said that the law enforcement agencies had sought details of bank accounts of these 186 seminaries from the State Bank of Pakistan. Similarly, he said, they had also sought details about those individuals running the affairs of these seminaries from National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA). The official said that National Counter Terrorism Authority (NACTA), Federal Investigation Agency (FIA), CTD Punjab, Punjab Police, Punjab Home Department and premier intelligence agencies of the country had established a strong network in this regard to choke the funding and financiers of these seminaries, if there is any, for ridding the extremism and terrorism off from the country which is a key target of the NAP.
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When contacted, Pakistan Ulema Council Chairman Allama Hafiz Muhammad Tahir Mehmood Ashrafi said that government should take action against all such seminaries involved in extremism and terrorism in the country.
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To another question, Tahir Mehmood said that already over 13, 000 seminaries across Punjab were cooperating with the government and its agencies in the ongoing process of their registration.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 20:41

PTI may knock on EU, UN doors for ‘justice’

LAHORE: The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) has decided to expeditiously complete its investigations into alleged irregularities committed in the voter lists of NA-122 and PP-147 and approach the Election Commission of Pakistan, Nadra and courts “to expose the PML-N tactics.”

Aleem Khan said there was no doubt that the PML-N had won against him through rigging rather than the power of votes. He said the PTI would not sit silent, until it would expose the voter lists’ fraud jointly planned by the PML-N, the ECP and Nadra. He said he was sure that the rulers would once again be exposed.

Mr Sarwar said he had decided to raise the PTI’s voice against the ruling party’s new technique of rigging and could even approach the European Union and United Nations. He said the PTI had immediately after the Oct 11 by-election written a letter to the ECP demanding the certified copies of voter lists meant for the 2013 general elections and 2015 Lahore by-election but the commission had yet to respond.
“The PTI would even go to the extent of lodging a complaint for the registration of an FIR against the ECP,” he added.

Mr Sarwar, I believe, is a "rookie politician", "imported" by Ganja Sharif, and was given the governorship of Pakjab for his loyalty to NS in Londonistan; but unfortunately, he could not get along with the "clever brother" and jumped ship-defected - (which is very common in Pakiland) to PTI, where Immy is grooming him for bigger things; Wonder, if he has cleared his threat to involve EU and UN,( with the Kaptaan,) in this messy "internal affairs of Pakistan"

Meanwhile, addressing a public gathering as part of local government election campaign, the PTI Punjab organiser said the ECP had become a “B Team” of the PML-N for the upcoming polls. He said the commission was providing incomplete voter lists to the PTI candidates. He warned the ECP against conniving with the PML-N and asserted that any move to rig the local government elections would result in the “political death” of the ruling party.
“Chief Election Commissioner retired Justice Sardar Raza Khan should take notice,” he demanded.

One reader rightly comments that just the other day, PTI was criticizing MQM for involving UN in their grievances.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 20:46

The Wikipedia page for 'Wartime sexual violence' has this picture of a sculpture in Bangladesh that depicts a Pakistani soldier raping a Bangladeshi woman

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 19 Oct 2015 20:48

Paul wrote:If a coup takes place in Pakistan, it will be a real blessing for India. It looks like it is heading that way

That is what I thought this morning. Posibility of of "takhta Palto "in Bakistan. Good Sharif declaring on Baki TV : Nawaj Sharif nuklear hatiyar Amreeka ko dene ki tyari mein tha.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 20:55

The wine-makers of Pakistan's north

"We learned from our fathers and grandfathers, who were already making wine," smiles Ahsan, who pressed his first grapes and tasted his first sip of wine at the age of "eight or nine."

But, he adds, for others, "wine and alcohol nourish love and humility."

Villagers say they especially like drinking wine during weddings and other celebrations.

The elderly singer Anwar, for one, remains defiant. “Religious leaders are no one to command or control my life,” he retorts.

Another one of those Farticles which "try" to depict how Pakis are "broadminded", tolerate all points of view, and do not resort to violence, and are "normal" in all respects; in other words, article, tailor made to read, for Doc Shivji

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 21:05

TIL a clinic run by a Pakistani doctor in US was responsible for 5 deaths and 99 people testing positive for Hepatitis C. The doctor ,who was aware of the safety errors in his clinic, ran to Pakistan to become the Minister of Public Health in Punjab government.

Not the FIRST time this has happened and definitely not the LAST time.
Joe La-whore mae Gxxdu woh Nebrasaka mae bhi Gxxdu

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 21:24

Pakistan Telecommunication Authority Sued For $ 40 Million By Foreign Company Over Spectrum Auction

CMPak, that operates in Pakistan with the brand name of Zong, has sent a legal notice to Pakistan Telecommunication Authority for auctioning spectrum that is noisy and corrupted due to in-band interference caused by widespread usage of DECT 6.0 devices.

It maybe recalled here that Zong had participated in the spectrum auction in 2014 and was awarded frequency spectrum band of 1920-1930 and 2110-2120MHz for 3G network and services. Moreover, DECT 6.0 devices — that are imported from abroad — operate in the same 1920-1930MHz — create interference in Zong’s spectrum.

Notice said that PTA and FAB didn’t remove such interference from the band and sold a spectrum that wasn’t suitable for purpose of offering next-gen services.

In other words, PTA took the money, but did not deliver according to contract- nothing unusual in Pakiland

Legal Notice, a copy of which is exclusively available with ProPakistani, said that sale of this defective band breach the warranties that came with spectrum purchase.

Legal Notice requested PTA to respond to legal notice with-in 15 days with following demands:

Zong should be allocated 5MHz of a substitute band in 1950-1955MHz and 2140-2145MHz band and remaining price of 5MHz that Zong has already paid — along with KIBOR plus 3 percent — should be refunded.
If money isn’t refunded then an equivalent amount of money must be rebated against various fee and dues that Zong will have to pay to PTA in future.
Zong be given a compensation of US 40 million dollars for
Loss of revenues during last 12 months
loss of market share
incremental costs incurred during this time in network optimization, cost of additional resources deployed to identify, evaluate and combat interference.

Notice said that PTA should settle these claims with-in 15 days, failing to which may result into further action ...

A Pakistan Telecommunication Authority spokesperson told ProPakistani that Zong and PTA, during a recent meeting after above mentioned legal notice, almost agreed on a solution.

He didn’t mention any details but said that a solution is being worked out and issue will be resolved amicably.

A cautionary tale for those bold enough to venture and invest in uncharted waters

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 19 Oct 2015 21:41

I wonder if the nukular deal with unkill is offered in return for Ombabas decision to stay on in Fak-Ap region? It is Unkils payment offered for Baki "services".

Makes me think so because Ganja is going there on behalf of the Rawheel, with strict instructions that he will be bull-cuttled if he does another Ufa. The bull-cuttle will then be dumped on RAW (they already have started making noises on that).

I think Ganja has his own agenda, Rawheel thinks Ganja will screw them over during his visit to Umrika and has gamed every possibility. Interesting times ahead for Bakistani democrazy.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 19 Oct 2015 22:55

Pakistan will never get any nuclear deal like India, simply because it is not motivated by economics or geopolitics even.

This sudden talk of a nuclear deal is surely born out of the G8-Iran deal and the need to stabilize the Iran-KSA-Pakistan axis. Iran must have sought assuarances about Paki transfer of wmd (Hydrogen sulfide bums) to KSA, and massa is trying to tie up that loose end.

Pakistan is economically weak and dependent on the west for subsistence, and they will CRE it, slowly but surely.

This CRE has been a goal for a very long time (if massa had its will it'll CRE Russia too).
Nawaz knows this is soosai-lamppost-campost subject, and so massa has explicitly said that no nuclear related talks will happen. But Nawaz can expect a dressing down along the lines of what BB was given back in the 90s (She came back and toured kahuta and PINSTECH in a huff!)

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 22:58

No compromise on national interest during US visit: PM Nawaz
Can this be taken as some kind of assurance being given to the "Deep State" to save his hide?

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 19 Oct 2015 23:19

Hafiz Saeed is not Nawaz Sharif but as a citizen of Pakistan he has the same rights

Punjab Home Department has released a report stating that two Pakistanis are the next target of RAW, India’s intelligence agencies. The first gentleman, Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif, is known to the world as the elected Prime Minister of Pakistan. The second man, Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, is known to the world as head of Jamat-ud-Dawa (JuD) and Falah-e-Insaniat Foundation (FIF), organisations blacklisted by the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1267. JUD and FIF are also placed on the watch list of the Government of Pakistan and are affiliated with another banned organisation called Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Interestingly, earlier this year in February, the National Crisis Management Cell (NCMC) of Pakistan, issued a warning to all provinces of joint attacks by LeJ and TTP. So there are legitimate reasons to believe that a nexus exists between LeJ and TTP and the two can potentially carry out an attack on the prime minister.

RAW’s attempt to portray TTP as the culprit is redundant because any attack by TTP on the prime minister would automatically be deemed by our security agencies as an Indian conspiracy. In 2012, NCMC has released a circular claiming that CIA and RAW are funding TTP through Afganistan’s Riyast-i-Amoor-o-Amanat-i-Milliyah (RAAM) and National Directorate of Security (NDS) to carry out attacks in Pakistan.

They are still sticking to their ridiculous theory that TTP is a RAA invention

In relation to Hafiz Saeed, one is more inclined to think of RAW staging an assassination in view of India’s claims of JUD’s direct involvement in the Mumbai 26/11 attacks. Furthermore, Lashkar-e-Taiba, which enjoys Saeed’s support, has been engaged in violent combat against the Indian military in Jammu and Kashmir. For the Indian media and masses, Saeed has in many ways surpassed Dawood Ibrahim as public enemy number one.

However, Saeed is also currently reported to be a potential target of ISIS. No direct confrontation is reported between JUD and any other banned outfit in Pakistan but Saeed has been addressing public rallies urging government to crack down on ISIS and hence is making enemies besides RAW as well.

So a race is on, as to who "gets" Hafiz Suar first - RAA or ISIS

An attack on the elected prime minister would be a blow to the nation’s morale.

Psychological warfare against Ganja ?

If any Pakistani deems Saeed to be a terrorist then the onus is on our judicial system to punish him rather than hope for foreign intelligence agencies to take him out. Saeed and JuD are not the only the examples of the non-implementation of the National Action Plan.

Psychological warfare against Ganja ?

For me an attack on Saeed by RAW would be more condemnable than America’s violation of our airspace and sovereignty to kill Bin Laden, who was wanted in Pakistan as well and who was not a Pakistani citizen.

The "author", it seems to me, has the blessings of the Deep State, in his views being stated here.

One can only hope that our law enforcement agencies can do a proper job of effectively protecting those citizens which should be protected by law, and indicting and convicting those who deserve it under the law.

By this standard, the Paki state miserably failed to protect the first female PM of Pakisatan !

nirav · Post by **nirav** » 19 Oct 2015 23:22

so the bakis replaced sartaj aziz with this junjua guy as NSA.. Hes an ex gernail..

Tarek Fatah calls him the butcher of Balochistan ...

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Oct 2015 00:11

http://www.dawn.com/news/1213256/pakist ... n-the-deep
(few good pictures of Agosta)

The Agosta 90B submarines are equipped with Submarines tactical integrated combat system (SUBTICS) which processes signals from the various sensors aboard the submarine, and determines the tactical situation by track association, trajectory plotting and management, while at the same time handling all weapon command and control functions.The increased automation in the much improved Agosta 90B has made it possible to reduce the crew to 36 sailors and officers.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 20 Oct 2015 01:19

nirav wrote:so the bakis replaced sartaj aziz with this junjua guy as NSA.. Hes an ex gernail..

Tarek Fatah calls him the butcher of Balochistan ...

Hussain Haqqani's tweet:
On 24 Oct 1954, army Chief Gen Ayub Khan became Defense Minister in an ostensibly civilian govt. La plus ca change...#Pakistan

Abhay_S · Post by **Abhay_S** » 20 Oct 2015 01:33

what Amri-Khan pakis think about Ganja's visit. postion only the last para of a long rant.

http://americansforpakistan.com/2015/10 ... um=twitter

... Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is reportedly stopping in London en route to Washington for his three day visit. He should stay and enjoy a shopping trip at Harrod’s. The Prime Minister would better serve his country if he canceled his visit to the US in protest of the US government’s complicity in the undermining of Pakistan’s civilian democracy. He would likely be serving his own interests as well.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 20 Oct 2015 02:05

At least Eleven get Seventy Two Each. Twenty Two missed out!
Cheers

krishna_krishna · Post by **krishna_krishna** » 20 Oct 2015 03:12

Gagan wrote:Pakistan will never get any nuclear deal like India, simply because it is not motivated by economics or geopolitics even.

This sudden talk of a nuclear deal is surely born out of the G8-Iran deal and the need to stabilize the Iran-KSA-Pakistan axis. Iran must have sought assuarances about Paki transfer of wmd (Hydrogen sulfide bums) to KSA, and massa is trying to tie up that loose end.

Pakistan is economically weak and dependent on the west for subsistence, and they will CRE it, slowly but surely.

This CRE has been a goal for a very long time (if massa had its will it'll CRE Russia too).
Nawaz knows this is soosai-lamppost-campost subject, and so massa has explicitly said that no nuclear related talks will happen. But Nawaz can expect a dressing down along the lines of what BB was given back in the 90s (She came back and toured kahuta and PINSTECH in a huff!)

Gaganullah I disagree with you on this one , this is what I posted in another thread

krishna_krishna wrote:Gurus,A thought regarding porky new clear deal, although it seems part of India containment my feeling is that massa will ask something sinister for desh to give up in return for that not to happen but it will happen and desh would be left rubbing hands as usual and the thing would be delayed but not stopped.

Can't help dhoti shiver , massa played this beautifully black stab namo or always in the work in case he refused to oblige.i believe this is continuum to what played during end of mms era he started getting anti masa if u can see his statements and actions during that time, dealing with Russia the russkies also were surprised by his u turn. Just some pindi Chana gas effect

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 20 Oct 2015 04:50

Ex-general Janjua appointed NSA: sources

ISLAMABAD: Lieutenant General (retd) Nasir Khan Janjua has been appointed National Security Adviser (NSA) but Sartaj Aziz will likely retain his foreign affairs portfolio, well placed sources told Dawn.com.

The decision was made in principle during high-level consultations between Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif last week, and a summary in this regard was signed by the PM prior to his departure for a four-day official visit to the United States.A notification is expected to be issued within the next 24 hours.

It is unclear as to why the sudden change in post is being made, though some military sources are speculating the decision was made so that Aziz could focus his attention entirely on foreign affairs.

And avoid facing Ajit Doval

Janjua will be elevated to the position of minister of state, and his office will be relocated to Prime Minister's Office.

So he can keep an eye on Ganja?

He also worked on 'Azm-i-Nau,' a military preparedness exercise that had a particular focus on India.
─ Correction: An earlier version of this story had incorrectly stated that a notification would be issued after the Prime Minister's return from US, and that the NSA would be sitting at the MOFA. The error is regretted.

It appears that his office earlier was to be at Min of Foreign Affairs, but now he will be seated next to NS; so someone was "taken to task" for the error

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Oct 2015 05:08

So soft coup in progress before the US visit!!!

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 20 Oct 2015 05:33

http://www.dawn.com/news/1214157/pakist ... aggression

WASHINGTON: Pakistan has made low-yield nuclear weapons in response to India’s actions under its cold-start doctrine, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhary told a news briefing here on Tuesday.

This is the first concrete explanation from a senior Pakistani official on how Islamabad plans to deal with India’s so called cold-start doctrine, now re-named the pro-active strategy.

It is also a rare explanation of Pakistan’s decision to make tactical nuclear weapons to deal with the possible threat of Indian aggression.

Briefing the Pakistani media on Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s visit to Washington, Chaudhary also said that Pakistan would not sign any nuclear deal with the United States during the visit.

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Oct 2015 05:55

X Posted from the “Oppression Of Minorities In Pakistan” thread.

Christist arrested for blasphemy in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

“Local Police Official” said that “The arrest was made after residents complained that the Christian man used a sword for healing patients on which Quranic verses were inscribed and it was offending for their religious sentiments”.

Explanation notwithstanding, I still cannot understand what was so blasphemous about a using a sword inscribed with verses from Koran aka Quran to heal the sick. So help me here. Was it blasphemous because:

1.Since Mohammaddenism is claimed by followers to be “The Religion Of Peace” inscribing Koranic verses on an instrument of violence such as a sword is blasphemous?

2.Quranic / Koranic verses were inscribed on a sword whose scabbard had a chape rather than one that had the chape removed?

3.Something altogether different?

From here:

Police arrest Christian healer for blasphemy in Sargodha

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Oct 2015 07:45

Pakistan not entering nuclear deal with US: Sarkhaaj Aziz
Bewafa,Beghairat Beggar's Ganja Bachao Byaan

Advisor to Prime Minister (PM) on National Security and Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz on Sunday has said that Pakistan is not entering any deal with United States (US) and there would be no compromise over national security.Aziz said that Pakistan could only reach an understanding if its interest is afeguarded. He said that Pakistan would not compromise on national interest and security.In a statement issued, the spokesperson has said, "No "deal" is being discussed between the two countries. Nor has the US made any demand on Pakistan. In any case, history is a testimony to the fact that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif accepts no demand from any state. He firmly believes in policies directed at preserving, protecting and promoting Pakistan s national interests."On the other hand, Special Assistant to PM on Foreign Affairs, Tariq Fatemi said that all outstanding issues including Indian aggression would be raised in the four-day US visit. He thrashed India saying that the neighbor has not responded positively on Pakistan’s peace initiative for the region.He vowed to expose India on international level during US visit.Earlier, Aziz had put forth a rather solid stance and clearly barred US from sparking instability in South Asia. He said that US should refrain from creating strategic imbalance in the region. The statement surfaced after foreign media claimed that US will make Pakistan join Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).But, the joining is conditional as Pakistan would have to accept certain restrictions, the media reported.It was revealed after US attack on Doctors Without Borders (MSF) installment in Afghanistan’s Kunduz that special analysts were tasked to collect intelligence over Pakistani operative’s possible coordination with Taliban.In an interview with BBC Urdu, Aziz discarded the possibility that the alleged intelligence operation would impact talks with US. He said that the world is aware of Pakistan’s activities and efforts to restore peace in the region.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Oct 2015 07:49

Paki are frothing like Black night now that India completely ooognore them

Pakistan has built low-yield nuclear weapons to counter Indian aggression’

WASHINGTON: Pakistan has made low-yield nuclear weapons in response to India’s actions under its cold-start doctrine, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhary told a news briefing here on Tuesday.
This is the first concrete explanation from a senior Pakistani official on how Islamabad plans to deal with India’s so called cold-start doctrine, now re-named the pro-active strategy.It is also a rare explanation of Pakistan’s decision to make tactical nuclear weapons to deal with the possible threat of Indian aggression.Briefing the Pakistani media on Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s visit to Washington, Chaudhary also said that Pakistan would not sign any nuclear deal with the United States during the visit.