Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Nov 2015 21:32

Immy's Ex To Return To Pakistan Next Month For Good!
Reham Khan Joins Neo TV For Rs. 5 million Per Month

LAHORE (Web Desk) – Reham Khan, ex-wife of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan has joined Neo TV as Senior Anchor on a handsome salary package.

The advertisers are now going to be charged "big bucks", so that the Neo TV can find a "source" for the funds to be disbursed; or maybe, salary promises will not be kept. (Paki norm !) Remains to be seen.

According to media reports, Reham has signed an agreement with Neo TV for Rs. 5 million (5,00,0000) per month. She is currently living in UK and may return to Pakistan within a week.
Earlier, Dunya TV offered Khan to Rs 25 lacks while Channel 92 News Rs.30 lacks per month.

So, the "demand" for this "commodity" (Ex Mrs. Imran Khan) has increased dramatically

However, Reham turned down the offer of Samaa TV for calling her ‘Churail’ on channel’s official Twitter account.
But who knows what she is now called "behind her back "

She will start her programme by the end of December or first week of January 2016, report adds.

Will it be a "conflict of interest" if she invites her Ex on her show; just wondering

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 28 Nov 2015 21:35

A_GuptaJi, lets agree to disagree, we are going around in circles. BTW, a few pages back lots of claims were made, "this is kirket discussion", "govt of India has absolutely no say because BCCI is like a private entity", "that kirket is a leverage is laughable tripe", and yet here we are, waiting for govt of India's nod to say Yes or No. Surely, its a matter of enough importance that the whole thing hinges on govt of India's approval. Thats enough for me because I am hoping as are others that govt of India will say NO. Rest is academic stuff.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Nov 2015 21:41

JI ameer vows to make Karachi like Istanbul

KARACHI (Web Desk) – The Jamaat-e-Islami and the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) jointly took out a rally in Karachi on Saturday.
So, the earliers rumours that Immy is in bed with the Jamaatis has now been proved true

The participants marched towards the Mazar-e-Quaid and were accorded a warm welcome.
PTI chairman Imran Khan said that MQM chief Altaf Hussain faced the threat from inside, not from outside.
Speaking on the occasion, JI ameer Sirajul Haq said that they would make Karachi a developed city like Istanbul.

So, this semi- educated Mullah wants to bring "strip tease clubs, gambling, liquor and other so-called western sins, and make Karachi, a liberal society, in contradiction to his earlier promises to make Pakiland more greener!

vanand · Post by **vanand** » 28 Nov 2015 21:58

BCCI is register as society under Indian law, its bound to laws and direction provided by any legal entity. My question here is, does BCCI have right to request for bilateral series when there is ban on cricket ties by GOI or a society can interfere in foreign policy?

Correct me if I am wrong

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Nov 2015 22:03

SSridhar wrote:Ashraf Ghani seeks Pakistani Pashtun leaders’ assistance
ISLAMABAD: That will not happen unless and until a plebiscite is conducted in FATA & KP to determine where the Pakhtuns want to go. The Durand Line treaty expired more than two decades ago and there is no legal sanctity to Pakistani occupation of Pakhtun lands. We have to extend diplomatic, moral support to the oppressed Pakhtuns in Pakistan-held KP to determine their own future. The non-resolution of this issue is the reason for instability and terrorism in the region and this issue is a potential nuclear flashpoint.

Just like Balochi, Pashtuns may make appeal to India for initially monetary support and then moral, material , diplomatic support to remove the yoke of Pakjabi terrorist army. If Bangladesh can do this then martial Balochi and Pashtuns too can achieve their freedom from Pindi.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Nov 2015 22:08

Mumtaz Qadri Threatens To Kill Himself

RAWALPINDI: Mumtaz Qadri, the convicted killer of Salman Taseer, former governor of Punjab, has reportedly threatened to kill himself if he is not allowed to meet his family as per previous routine.
Qadri’s death sentence was upheld by the Supreme Court and he was kept in Rawalpindi’s Adiyala jail.

After the apex court’s decision, the venue of his meeting with family was changed. He was allowed to see members of his family only though an ‘iron fence’, apparently because of security reasons and for being a dangerous prisoner.

His "lawyer friends" will make sure that he does not end up in the gallows !

According to a security official, Mumtaz Qadri, a former Elite Force commando and bodyguard of Salman Taseer, protested against the change and refused to follow the new rule. He threatened to commit suicide on Thursday and said the jail authorities would be responsible for his death.

Paki society will see a lot of "fireworks", if this Islamist is hanged ! Is the Bad Sharif ready for this implosion ?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Nov 2015 22:09

CRamS wrote:A_GuptaJi, lets agree to disagree, we are going around in circles. BTW, a few pages back lots of claims were made, "this is kirket discussion", "govt of India has absolutely no say because BCCI is like a private entity", "that kirket is a leverage is laughable tripe", and yet here we are, waiting for govt of India's nod to say Yes or No. Surely, its a matter of enough importance that the whole thing hinges on govt of India's approval. Thats enough for me because I am hoping as are others that govt of India will say NO. Rest is academic stuff.

Let there be no mistake. This man Modi is quite capable of superseding the BCCI and taking it over and running it with competent people and trashing all the politicos now running the filthy show.

The congi's had also threatened to take over the BCCI board and they also had very controllable folks already in the driver's seat but nevertheless saw fit to actually make the threat more than a few times.

The Indian team plays under the Indian flag and not the effing BCCI flag.

All international team engagements whether in country or outside takes place ONLY AFTER THE EXPRESS APPROVAL OF THE GOI.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Nov 2015 22:16

vanand wrote:BCCI is register as society under Indian law, its bound to laws and direction provided by any legal entity. My question here is, does BCCI have right to request for bilateral series when there is ban on cricket ties by GOI or a society can interfere in foreign policy?

Correct me if I am wrong

the BCCI simply don't want to get a bad name by opposing the series. The GOI will take the hit, one way or the other and the BCCI will continue to remain the blue eyed boy.

Every cricketing entity in the world knows that the GOI always has the final say. They have to provide security, intelligence, manage vast amounts of foreigners (pakis) coming into India in the name of cricket. The BCCI just orders the toilet paper, relatively speaking.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Nov 2015 22:58

We did not hear the squeak of Jihadis Sethi's freak

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Nov 2015 23:59

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/opinion/26 ... SsI.mailto
Pie in the sky
Many of the Pakistani jihadists are filling the ranks of IS, which is making its presence increasingly felt in eastern Afghanistan

The director of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said on social media that the COAS had emphasised to US officials the “requirement of a conducive environment for re-initiating the Afghan peace process”. The ISPR director also brushed aside concerns about Islamic State (IS) in Iraq and Syria aka Daesh (Arabic acronym) getting a toehold in Pakistan, saying, “There is zero tolerance for Daesh in Pakistan. Even Daesh’s shadow will not be allowed in Pakistan.” Both comments are, prima facie, heartening, unless one looks closely at what is happening on the ground.Just as the Pakistani delegation was leaving Washington DC, dozens of corpses were being brought into the Lower Dir region of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa from Afghanistan. At least 22 bodies were buried in Timargarah in a funeral attended by hundreds if not thousands, including some elected officials from Dir. A nazim (mayor), Sahibzada Fasihullah, from Upper Dir confirmed his participation in the funeral to Voice of America’s (VOA’s) Pashto service, Deewa radio. Video clips from the funeral available on social media show that the coffins were wrapped in the flags of a jihadist outfit called al Badr and bore its name. The assembled crowd chanted “sabeelona, sabeelona al-jihad, al-jihad” (our path is jihad). Several Pakistani and local media outlets confirmed that the militants had been killed in a US and/or Afghan security forces strike inside Afghanistan and were then brought to their home area for burial. Al Badr is said to be associated with both the Kashmir-oriented jihadist outfit Hizbul Mujahideen as well as Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hizb-e-Islami Afghanistan. Afghan officials have put the number of Pakistani jihadists killed at upwards of 50.

The Pakistani government and military officials have remained mum over the incident so far but this certainly cannot be the ‘conducive environment’ that is supposed to expedite talks, let alone peace in Afghanistan. Whether or not there is official patronage for such large infiltration of Pakistani jihadists into Afghanistan, it is worrisome for both the countries on multiple counts. Pakistan has generally been patted on the back for the Zarb-e-Azb Operation but that does not mean it should get a free pass for dispersing the hornets into the neighbour’s yard after eliminating their nest at home. A more stringent view is that such dispersal has been taking place by design. In either case, the involvement of Pakistani jihadists first in Kunduz and now in Khost will further sour an already tenuous relationship between the two countries. An even more alarming issue is that many of the Pakistani jihadists are filling the ranks of IS, which is making its presence increasingly felt in eastern Afghanistan. After all, the notoriously brutal thugs from the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Abu Omar Maqbool Khurasani aka Shahidullah Shahid, Hafiz Saeed Orakzai, Hafiz Daulat Khan, Maulana Gul Zaman, Mufti Hassan and Khalid Mansoor Khurasani pledged allegiance to IS a little over a year ago. Shahidullah Shahid and Gul Zaman were killed in US drone strikes but others like Commander Gul Bali, Abu Bakr and Huzaifa have joined more recently.
It is irresponsible in the extreme to look the other way when these assorted terrorists who had previously operated in Kurram, Orakzai, Bajaur and Khyber tribal agencies, and settled areas like Dir and Peshawar, cross over into Afghanistan and when their corpses are brought back and buried amidst jihadist fanfare. Pakistan should be worried for its own sake if not for Afghanistan’s. The TTP after all was executing people in IS style six years before there was an IS. The fact is that there is enough ideological substrate and abundant manpower for IS to recruit from. IS might not be able to launch a full fledged insurgency in Pakistan or Afghanistan yet but it could certainly unleash havoc if both countries let their guard down. And if not checked in time, IS could replicate the deadly success of its predecessor and now competitor, al Qaeda.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Nov 2015 00:00

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Nov 2015 00:08

Ghani’s Pivot Away From Pakistan
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/25/gh ... -pakistan/

ustrated by Pakistan’s efforts to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has decided to stealfrom former president Hamid Karzai’s playbook, and cozy up to India. One potential consequence? Weakening ties with Pakistan, ties that are likely necessary for peace in the region.On Nov. 7, Mohammad Hanif Atmar, Ghani’s National Security Adviser, visited New Delhi to secure the delivery of four Mi-25 attack helicopters to support the struggling Afghan security forces — a move likely to irk Pakistan. Further, Deputy Afghan Foreign Minister Hekmat Karzai said on Nov. 19 that Atmar provided his Indian counterpart with a military equipment “wish list” at a recent defense cooperation meeting. The delivery of the Russian-built attack helicopters represents India’s first attempt to provide sophisticated weaponry to Afghanistan since the two countries signed a strategic partnership in 2011. In addition to the helicopter request, Afghanistan submitted a proposal for Afghan Special Forces to receive training in India.
Ghani’s push to seek assistance from India comes at a time of increased strain and tension between Pakistan and Afghanistan — a situation reminiscent of Karzai’s gambit in 2014 to seek out India’s support.In 2014, at the tail end of his time in office, Karzai reached out to India after failing to convince Pakistan to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table. Reeling from a failed 2013 summit in Brussels between Secretary of State John Kerry and Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, then the Chief of Staff of Pakistan’s army, Karzai requested the sale of 105-mm howitzer artillery pieces and medium-lift transport helicopters from India to assist Afghan forces in casualty evacuation operations.Only a few months later, President Ghani switched gears. He opened his administration with hopes of renewed relations with Pakistan, including the signing of a memorandum of understanding between the two countries to share intelligence, a controversial move that received considerable backlash from former Karzai staff and Afghan citizens.The initial attempts to heal the rift between Pakistan and Afghanistan appeared to be paying dividends on July 8, 2015 in Islamabad, Pakistan, at the opening of the first public peace negotiations between the Taliban and the Kabul government. But after the revelations of Taliban leader Mullah Omar’s death two years earlier and collapse of the peace talks, relations went south, with accusations that Pakistan leaked the news of Omar’s death to stymie peace efforts. Following the collapse of these negotiations, the fractious Taliban movement, under the leadership of Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansour, made impressive territorial gains, sacking Kunduz on Sep. 28 and taking over large swaths of territory in northern Helmand province including Musa Qala and now Zad.Ghani’s discontent with Pakistan increased following this year’s brutal spring and summer fighting seasons, which witnessed a record number of Afghan and civilian casualties, coupled with the fall of Kunduz, the first major provincial capital since the Taliban’s overthrow during the 2001 U.S.-led invasion.The October 2015 announcement that a Pakistani operative was the focus of U.S. airstrikes on the Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) facility in Kunduz only widened the rift between Pakistan and Afghanistan, lowering expectations for any future reconciliation between the Taliban and Kabul. American intelligence analysts had tracked an alleged Pakistani operative to the MSF facility, believing this individual was working for Pakistani intelligence and coordinating battlefield efforts for the Taliban in Kunduz. Pakistan has staunchly denied any involvement in the Kunduz operation, rejecting accusations linking its government to direct aid of the Taliban. ( Paki just Buried Al Badar Terrorists in KP)

No longer willing to rely on Pakistan to end its interventionist policy in Afghanistan, Ghani has decided to revive his predecessor’s strategy and approach Pakistan’s longtime foe, India. It is anyone’s guess whether Ghani’s bold move will pay off, though it is sure to generate anxiety in Pakistan.But Islamabad has failed to grasp what Afghanistan stands to gain from a stronger relationship with India.For Kabul, the benefits of strengthened ties between Afghanistan and India go well beyond military hardware. Afghanistan provides India access to Iran’s port of Chabahar, providing India with a direct route to Central Asian markets and facilitating North-South transit trade throughout the region, creating “the Asian roundabout, a key hub of in the revival of the Silk road[sic],” as Ghani said at the BRICS Summit in Ufa, Russia, earlier this year. Strengthening trade ties with Afghanistan allows India to project economic power in the region and demonstrate that its foreign policy is not dictated by Pakistan and China.By granting India access to the port of Chabahar and the Delaram-Zaranj road, which connects the Afghan-Iranian border town Zaranj to major Afghan roads, Afghanistan offers it an alternative to the Gwader port, a mere 72 km (44 miles) away but under the control of China and Pakistan. It also provides India with a surveillance post to monitor Chinese and Pakistani warships in the region.

India and Afghanistan will have to gauge whether the cost-benefit analysis of drawing closer will be worthwhile in the long run. Cooperation between Pakistan and Afghanistan is vital to achieving peace in the region. India has suffered heavily for interfering in the Pakistan-Afghanistan relationship, as evidenced by the 2008 bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul that left 54 dead.Afghanistan must also be careful of possible responsive Pakistani actions. An October 2015 Congressional Research Service report supports Afghanistan’s claim that Pakistan interferes with Afghan internal affairs and supports proxy elements fighting an undeclared war against Afghanistan. The report states that Pakistan’s objectives in Afghanistan seek to utilize militant groups to counter Indian influence and create strategic in-roads for Pakistan.It is too soon to tell if Ghani’s India gamble will pay off, though the pressure on Pakistan to change course has certainly been ramped up. With Pakistan’s recent move to invite India’s foreign minister to attend a regional conference on Afghanistan next month, Pakistan is surely feeling the heat.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 29 Nov 2015 00:19

Untold Story: How WKKs came in to existence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjFvf2nihPs

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 29 Nov 2015 00:30

Paki Origin Columnist Says That Imran Is A Firm Believer In "Pir Business"

Imran Khan is a politician with a sense of personal destiny, and a divine mission

Reham Khan arrived on the scene in Pakistan in 2014 as a TV reporter. Her name was spelt funny in Urdu. She didn’t bother to clarify, so it was written with a big Urdu “h” rather the small Urdu “h”. It meant “uterus” when misspelled.

...and interviewee Imran Khan fell for her, married her, only to divorce her 10 months later — a second divorce for both

At that time, it was alleged that Imran Bhai was not thinking from his head, but rather than from "between his legs"

Imran’s first wife, Jemima, was a rich woman, financially secure, shy by nature, socially withdrawn, and tolerant of Imran’s spirituality. Reham was just the opposite: Assertive, constantly on the lookout for a good chance, and less tolerant of what she thought was black magic practised in Imran’s house.

Not to speak of her "intolerance" for Immy's doggie friends !

In a book Imran wrote, Pakistan: A Personal History, he talks about his strong sense of personal destiny, revealed through soothsayers. He recalls: “Pir Gi from Sahiwal said I would be very famous and make my mother a household name”.

So, this is Pir # 1

But the man who stood by him as his spiritual mentor and crystal-gazer was Mian Bashir, who shocked him by naming the Quranic verse his mother used to read to him as a baby and predicted that Allah had “turned the tables” in his favour in the libel suit two English cricketers, Allan Lamb and Ian Botham, had brought against him. From his sense of predestination comes his risk-taking character.

So, based on these two "miracles", this Oxford educated rationalist, became a staunch believer in pirs and fakirs; but wait, is this not Kuffar Islam, according to Saudi version of the Book?

Imran’s last known spiritual guide was Ahmad Rafique Akhtar of the city of Gujar Khan. Akhtar reportedly used to decipher people’s fate from their names. Reham complains that Imran insistently enquired from her the full names of her parents. She may have mistaken this for black magic. There are reports that Imran is no longer a devotee of the “oracle” of Gujar Khan.

So, when will Kaptaan "come out of the closet" and admit his addiction to pirs, fakirs, and other charlatans who are giving a bad name to the Religion of Piss.

Jemima told Vanity Fair why she left Imran in 2004: “The billionaire’s girl and her two children are frequently ill with stomach complaints while her husband is ‘practically penniless’ and frequently away from home pursuing a political career. Jemima and the couple’s two children — Sulaiman and Kasim — have suffered from tummy bugs in their previous [Islamabad]
I am a supporter of Imran because he is uncorrupt in a financially corrupt society. He has built a charity cancer hospital of international standard in Lahore where the poor are treated for free. He has built a university in backward Mianwali, his father’s native town, and is about to open another charity hospital in Peshawar. The young like a tough-talking, full-time denunciatory leader. But the “divine mission” for which he makes domestic sacrifices may ultimately turn out to just be politics

So, the Paki author himself is a "closet" supporter of Immy.

Abhay_S · Post by **Abhay_S** » 29 Nov 2015 02:44

Jhujar wrote:http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/opinion/26 ... SsI.mailto
Pie in the sky
Many of the Pakistani jihadists are filling the ranks of IS, which is making its presence increasingly felt in eastern Afghanistan

The Author Dr Mohammad Taqi has been fired and the Editor forced to Resign over this OP ed. I wish our Tolerant DDM moves across the border to get some experience.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Nov 2015 06:28

vanand wrote:BCCI is register as society under Indian law, its bound to laws and direction provided by any legal entity. My question here is, does BCCI have right to request for bilateral series when there is ban on cricket ties by GOI or a society can interfere in foreign policy?

Correct me if I am wrong

There is no blanket ban on cricket. The GoI cannot stop the BCCI, a private body from talking to PCB any more than a marriage between an Indian and a Paki. The GoI cannot stop the press from picking up reports of such talks between PCB and BCCI and publishing them even though the news may be the usual worthless rubbish that appears out of Pakistan and swallowed eagerly by a niche bunch of obsessed cricket lovers. The government only has control over some things which happen to be make or break. As Arun Gupta pointed out - the government needs to give permission for an "international" event. But there is nothing the GoI can do if 11 Indian cricketers go to Dubai on a private visit and play 11 Pakis in a "friendly" in a private stadium owned by a sheikh and blessed by Dawood, just like US govt could never stop its Pakizens from visiting Pakistan and becoming jihadized. it can only maintain surveillance on them and check their finances and ensure that there are no "irregularities". There are freedoms that private individuals and entities enjoy outside of the US.

arun · Post by **arun** » 29 Nov 2015 06:54

Jhujar wrote:Ghani’s Pivot Away From Pakistan

https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/25/gh ... -pakistan/

...........{Snipped}............. .With Pakistan’s recent move to invite India’s foreign minister to attend a regional conference on Afghanistan next month, Pakistan is surely feeling the heat.

Any notion that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is doing any kind of favour to India by inviting India to the Heart of Asia meeting must be scotched. The fact is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has no practical option but to invite India for the Heart of Asia Conference as they are obliged to invite India given Indian membership of the Heart of Asia group. Failure to invite India runs the risk that the Heart of Asia conference will be moved out of the Islamic Republic just as the Islamic Republic’s attempt to prevent attendance of representatives of the Jammu & Kashmir Legislature led to the Commonwealth Parliamentary Conference being shifted out of the Islamic Republic.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 29 Nov 2015 06:57

Islamabad To Be Declared A "Safe City" Next Month Just Because 1800 CCTV Cameras Will Be Installed

Islamabad: Decision has been taken to declare Islamabad safe city in next month.(Lahori logic in operation; make big declaration and then install CCTV -if it ever gets installed )
The Interior ministry has decided to install 1800 state of the art Close Circuit TV Cameras on the entry points of Islamabad, as part of this project for making federal capital safe city.

The sources said that interior ministry has issued directives in writing to Chinese company( Lahori logic again; directive equals installation;similar to other bombastic pronouncements made from time to time) engaged in installing CCTV cameras to fulfill all the requirements of installation of these 1800 cameras, till November 30, 2015. The cameras are being installed with five years warranty.

Once bitten, twice shy; Pakis were taken for a ride with junk purchases like railway engines and power plants from Chini-blothers; but then beggars cant be choosers; it would be safe to assume that the railway engines and the power plants also came with guarentees.

The Chinese company which has been assigned the work of installing these cameras has already done this job in other countries, major cities of China and Kuwait which are yielding requisite results. (whatever that means)
This project is likely to be completed at the cost of 100 million dollars. Bank of China has provided this amount to Chinese company.
Pakistan will repay this amount in annual installments without paying any heavy interest.

Pakis are slowly and surely being sucked into a debt trap; country mortgaged to the hilt !

habal · Post by **habal** » 29 Nov 2015 07:16

1800 cameras for $100 mil, what kind of cameras are these ? x band thermal imagers ?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 29 Nov 2015 07:19

Vipul wrote:Salahuddin Chowdhury and Ali Ahsan Mujahid hangings: A case of ‘judicial murder’?

Journalist from The Hindu questioning the hangings of Pakistan supporters and genocide committing members of Jamat-e-islami in Bangladesh.
Check out the other 'international newspapers' this cretin also writes for.

I have not come across this person's writing before. However, he is echoing similar thoughts on the BD executions that The Hindu had also written about. I am not sure if Hindustan Times has already written an edit. If not, it is time for one to appear there as well.

The point to be noted is that Pakistan has executed about 300 terrorists in this year so far by hanging through Army courts whose judicial process is dubious if not downright fake. The 'democratically-elected' government snatched the power of tying the terrorism-related cases from the judiciary and invested that with the Army. The Army chief or his designated person signs the death warrants. Even a minor at the time of his arrest was hanged. Last month (October) alone saw 45 hangings. But, not a word from our self-righteous newspapers who are spearheading an anti-capital punishment campaign in our country or from an author like the above who claims to 'morally oppose' capital-punishment?

So, why are they highlighting these two cases where there is overwhelming proof of their hand in collaborating with the Pakistani Army in genocide? Why are articles being written when a duly constituted court of law is punishing the mass murderers? There is a broad support within BD for the trial of war criminals, except by those Islamists who are directly involved in that or their political supporters.

Clearly, there is an agenda by the usual suspects of the Indian media to ignore Pakistan but villify BD.

Added later
Delhi-Dhaka ties crucial ahead of war crimes execution

Dhaka-New Delhi collaboration will play a key role in maintaining law and order in the India-Bangladesh border region, as the government of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina gears up for the possible execution of one of the most important 1971 war crimes accused, Motiur Rahman Nizami. . . Though India has not officially commented on the recent executions of war crimes accused, it is generally understood that India supports Bangladesh’s quest to bring the accused to justice.

Don't we also understand Pakistan's condemnation of the trial and the hangings? The word 'Hypocrisy' does not convey the magnitude of the Pakistani hypocrisy at all, does it?

member_29247 · Post by **member_29247** » 29 Nov 2015 07:21

GOi can stop subsidies and Tax exempt status of BCCI.

It can send DRI folks for chai biscoot session followed by
ED having business lunch with hyderabadi dum biryani with BCCI chairman and selection committee
Followed by a friendly visit from Income Tax officials to just look at binders or shredders installed.

Next day you will have fire engulfing the BCCI records store room

Where there is will there is lot GOI can do.

Rest is all hocus pocus for the guilliable public

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 29 Nov 2015 08:19

SpinsterJi, oh yes, there is a lot GoI can do, but in this climate, I don't think its worth ModiJi's time to go after BCCI. The only thing I am hoping and praying is he explicitly says NO to this current planned resumption by BCCI and PCB, and indications so far seem to be that its a NO.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 29 Nov 2015 08:59

Goi has been saying no and maybe until now. Modi is not the one making the call on this cricket thing. It is mea and MHA. The ministries do their jobs based on many calculations, tactical and strategic. Explicitly tying Modi repeatedly in post after post to capital NO is more suggestive of some agenda on your part rather than anything to do with GoI.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Nov 2015 09:05

JE Menon wrote:Goi has been saying no and maybe until now. Modi is not the one making the call on this cricket thing. It is mea and MHA. The ministries do their jobs based on many calculations, tactical and strategic. Explicitly tying Modi repeatedly in post after post to capital NO is more suggestive of some agenda on your part rather than anything to do with GoI.

Tying Modi in may simply be a naive consequence of imagining that the Indian governmental apparatus works like the US Presidential system where the President of the US has enough power vested in him to make almost dictatorial decisions in some instances.

There was a recent discussion on TV and online where it was pointed out that an education in India teaches Indians nothing about their history and government, but in the US people grow up learning about its short history and the way its government works. Without knowing how the Indian government works it is easy to imagine things; perhaps even imagine that it should work like the US government. A lot of my own relatives who went to the US decades ago come back and ask why the system here does not work like the US and for some people - a system that does not work like the US system is not working at all. I am reminded of a relative who used to curse the fact that he had to go an hour early to the airport in India in the 1990s for security reasons and told me how he would arrive 15 minutes before the flight into Chicago airport and jump in. I believe that has changed now.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 29 Nov 2015 09:47

JEM, no agenda, I don't understand why you would say that. But coming to decision making, if you give any credence to the following video report, please listen from 00:42 secs onwards

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/conte ... 45213.html

Also, this quote from the above report

ESPNcricinfo has learnt that a senior minister in the Indian government believes the chance of the series taking place is "very difficult", and that a final decision will be taken by the Indian prime minister Narendra Modi.

deWalker · Post by **deWalker** » 29 Nov 2015 09:53

shiv wrote: There is no blanket ban on cricket. The GoI cannot stop the BCCI, a private body from talking to PCB any more than a marriage between an Indian and a Paki....

I think there is further complexity to GoI decision process. I don't believe there is support, whether political or economic, of blanket ban on games against Pakistan, irrespective of the location / event. For example we played vs. Pakistan at the World Cup. To re-state differently, I don't believe we have the momentum to issue a blanket "we won't play against Pakistan at all till Mumbai attack culprits are convicted" message, akin to China threatening to boycott all events that Taiwan participated in under independent flag.

So GoI, which I do believe is in control of the series (IMO!), instead of issuing a pussy message like "you can't play in India but we can play in World Cup or or whatever" chooses to not say anything and prevent the home series, or Paki participation in IPL, behind the scenes.

Anyway, just my chaar-anna. Certainly don't want to give more oxygen to the other member "with a lot of posts" (not you Shiv).

Cheers

Diwakar

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 29 Nov 2015 10:22

>>JEM, no agenda, I don't understand why you would say that.

I invite you to read your own posts (and others to do so as well) on this particular subject, and your theme in over 5 of them are "Modiji" must say "NO" with various other caveats etc. thrown in. Of course, in your own mind, apparently, if cricket resumes then "Modiji" is directly and personally to blame - when it is abundantly clear that it is an MEA/MHA call as per several Indian press reports. If this is not suggestive of an agenda (I did not say you have one), then perhaps either you or I have an unclear understanding of what an agenda is. Finally, this below is third hand rubbish from a US owned sports company as of now.

"ESPNcricinfo (1) has learnt (2)that a senior minister in the Indian government believes (3)the chance of the series taking place is "very difficult", and that a final decision will be taken by the Indian prime minister Narendra Modi." In short, an American sports outlet has heard from an undisclosed source that an undisclosed senior minister believes that there will be no cricket... Which is what you seem to want in the first place. Even I'm confused as to why that was quoted.

More important than this cricket business (which is trivial in the scheme of things except as a pressure point which we apply, not Pakistan) is how Modi responds to the Sharif offer, and it is Modi who will be the final arbiter of that because it is Sharif who will be met.

Does this mean cricket will not be played with Pakistan? Who knows. There have been times in the past when cricket has been announced and cancelled again. GoI will not get caught in a silly cycle of absolutes. Rather, it is your repeated association of the prime minister directly with the yes/no binary here that is suggestive of an agenda, or an inability to recognise what you are doing. Anyone who cares to read your posts over the past few pages of this thread will be able to make up their own mind on that.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 29 Nov 2015 10:34

JEM, I apologize if I have come across as having any agenda. I don't. But I am of the opinion that kirket resumption is a big decision and PM is involved in it. I just posted something which you just dismiss as rubbish. It seems to me that quite a few of you are mighty upset at whatever it is I have said in the past, that anything I say is construed as having an agenda or some other sinister motive. Trust me, I don't, and I mean it. My agenda is only "give peace a chance, destroy TSP", and I welcome any baby step towards that.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 29 Nov 2015 10:51

>>I just posted something which you just dismiss as rubbish.

Incorrect. ESPN said something which I dismissed as third-hand rubbish based on the Bolded part.

Anybody is free to have any opinion they want. I just pointed out something in your opinion and the way it is articulated that is suggestive of an agenda. In fact I requested others to read and make up their own minds. Read your posts on this subject yourself. Maybe you will see what I mean. I'm not questioning your motives at all. You are free to have an agenda as well. You haven't broken any BRF rules that I know of.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 29 Nov 2015 11:01

I am not batting for espn, but that reporter Gaurav Kalra is very experienced (he used to be I believe with CNN-IBN) and has been reliable in the past (In other cricketing respects). Does that mean everything he says is truth, definitely not. And in this ongoing kirket news saga, I haven't seen anything that espn has reported that is way off the mark from what other Indian newspapers have reported (in fact, they were the ones who first broke the news of BCCI PCB talks, SL as the neutral venue etc). So I take note of their report, but it needs some corroboration, lets wait and see.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Nov 2015 11:14

habal wrote:1800 cameras for $100 mil, what kind of cameras are these ? x band thermal imagers ?

swiss bank account generating cameras onlee. Multi purpose, multi band and multi currency. Can't find a camera with any higher specs than that.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Nov 2015 13:40

chetak wrote:
habal wrote:1800 cameras for $100 mil, what kind of cameras are these ? x band thermal imagers ?
swiss bank account generating cameras onlee. Multi purpose, multi band and multi currency. Can't find a camera with any higher specs than that.

I think these cameras are capable of 1 million frames per second. Pakistan will have the highest resolution cameras on earth and the analysis of 1 second of video will take 1 month - helping Pakistan's law enforcement to continue to be as efficient as they have been

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Nov 2015 14:46

CRamS wrote:SpinsterJi, oh yes, there is a lot GoI can do, but in this climate, I don't think its worth ModiJi's time to go after BCCI. The only thing I am hoping and praying is he explicitly says NO to this current planned resumption by BCCI and PCB, and indications so far seem to be that its a NO.

just some of the options that are being aired so that dummies like rajiv shukla do not take center stage.

I am very very sure from the talk that I sometimes hear at the karnataka kirket association, there is heavy hawala routing of funds to high society individuals as well as prominent political parties specially from the indo pak kirket games.

so no wonder kangress is pushing hard.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 29 Nov 2015 15:43

STFUP on cricket here folks, please.

This thread was pure unadultrated joy of Paki bashing and analysis. News from the west and it was good to read and hear of how rats and donkeys squirm in Pakistan.

Unfortunately, based on just one persons constant focus (it may be very dear to him), STFUP has become another exotic location for Indians to be self critical, self depreciating and holding themselves and their top most leaders responsible for everything.

Surely, Cricket with TSP can be discussed on the cricket thread and us "Talebs" from Muridke can continue hearing the mullah's sermon post Jumme Ki Namaaz.

Somebody, stop this hijack of STFUP.

Awadhi · Post by **Awadhi** » 29 Nov 2015 17:18

vanand wrote:BCCI is register as society under Indian law, its bound to laws and direction provided by any legal entity. My question here is, does BCCI have right to request for bilateral series when there is ban on cricket ties by GOI or a society can interfere in foreign policy?

Correct me if I am wrong

There's no official ban as such on playing cricket with Pakistan , other sporting events with Pakistan are going as usual , even Pakistani amateur cricket club teams, disabled cricket teams etc are visiting India regularly. Any sporting team from pak requires approval from MHA, MEA and Sports Ministry, in case of senior national cricket team it becomes a political decision. Since BCCI has a strong lobby in the govt it can put pressure to give into its demand. But at the end of the day it's up to the higher echelons in the govt to decide.

arun · Post by **arun** » 29 Nov 2015 17:41

“Feminist poet” from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, one Kishwar Naheed, claims intolerance is in control in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan but not in control in India:

Kishwar Naheed, a feminist poet from Pakistan, says: “In Pakistan, intolerance has been going on in the past ten years due to the Taliban.

"We have finally been able to control them, and now conditions are much better here. But, in India, people are not in control. Where’s the law and order? People are doing whatever they want to do. This shouldn’t happen.”