West Asia News and Discussions (YEMEN, gulf)

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 01 Dec 2015 16:51

even a couple in a shop that specialises in Inspecteure Clouseau uniforms

No good w/o the language training 2 say:

Votre Leesanz, si'l vous plait!

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Dec 2015 17:56

The last invasion of Europe was at Normandy,"Op. Overlord",by Allied forces to recapture Europe from Nazi Germany. Thus the humiliation of the BEF and evacuation of British troops at Dunkirk was avenged.
However,we have today another invasion of Europe,a Dunkirk in reverse,where Turkish bum-boats en masse are making thousands of trips into Europe full of "Syrian refugees",in reality Muslim adventurers in the main,and concealed amongst them tens of thousands of would be jihadis ready to do ISIS' bidding. The Turkish traffickers are also making a "killing",pun intended,out of transport charges too.What a brilliant way to destabilise Europe using a "demographic bomb"!

Sadly,the Euro-peons have scarcely woken upto the fact that they've been invaded and that the D-bomb ,thanks to Turkey,is going to destroy the immensely hard fought victory of WW2 and unprecedented European integration achieved at huge cost ,only to hand over to ISIS and her puppet masters Europe's birthright.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 01 Dec 2015 18:03

What a brilliant way to destabilise Europe using a "demographic bomb"!

Absolutely. This is the simple answer to "Why are the sunni refugees not going to Heavenly Saudi Arabia?"

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 01 Dec 2015 18:18

UlanBatori wrote:
What a brilliant way to destabilise Europe using a "demographic bomb"!
Absolutely. This is the simple answer to "Why are the sunni refugees not going to Heavenly Saudi Arabia?"

You may not like it but having 20% of Europe as Muslims is in our interest. The western population will wake to islamic malpractices.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 01 Dec 2015 18:19

i think the penny has already dropped in most cases...

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 01 Dec 2015 20:22

Absolutely...I have been saying on this forum for years Obama is the best president to serve Indian interests.

Hope Muslim % goes up in Canada as well. That will be more dangerous than Europe as Canada pop is around 30M-40Million. Not enough to push back against the peacefuls....

Here the sentiments of the western diaspora and the Indians start to diverge

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Dec 2015 22:16

Lalmohan wrote:i think the penny has already dropped in most cases...

It has ,Seems EuroPeons on Tittar now days follow every one who is really " Knowledgeable" about ROPe. They are fed up putting their bed up for "Re-Fugees".

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 01 Dec 2015 22:46

You may not like it but having 20% of Europe as Muslims is in our interest. The western population will wake to islamic malpractices.

Where I live (suburban Ulan Bator) the local erections were lecently herd. Ress than 10% voted. IOW, a candidate who could have brought his/her extended family out to vote would have won easily. This is the reality in Oirope. With over 20% Faithful to One Community, they will be THE elected powers in Oirope. Better practise saying "AsalamuAliekum" instead of "Allo" or "Guten Tag!" Of course there will be no need to vote in any more erections.

BRao · Post by **BRao** » 01 Dec 2015 22:57

Unlike India, a 20% Muslim population in Europe will be undefeatable simply because of the pusillanimity instilled by decades of political correctness & secularism where saying anything against Islam is 'racism/nazism/fascism'. Leftists & political correct seculars will, without fail, destroy any culture they exist in. In India, Hindus will still give a bloody nose to Islamists if they ever try any shenanigans but only until they breach the 30-35% mark, after which simply by sheer persistence, brainwashing & foreign funding they can run over the native civilization. Hope that we in India can learn our lessons before that happen & Europe gives us that chance. All thanks to Ombaba.

Abhay_S · Post by **Abhay_S** » 01 Dec 2015 23:02

BRao wrote:Unlike India, a 20% Muslim population in Europe will be undefeatable simply because of the pusillanimity instilled by decades of political correctness & secularism where saying anything against Islam is 'racism/nazism/fascism'. Leftists & political correct seculars will, without fail, destroy any culture they exist in. In India, Hindus will still give a bloody nose to Islamists if they ever try any shenanigans but only until they breach the 30-35% mark, after which simply by sheer persistence, brainwashing & foreign funding they can run over the native civilization. Hope that we in India can learn our lessons before that happen & Europe gives us that chance. All thanks to Ombaba.

only 10% away from 2 continent Theory. will it be eu-de-Pakistan or paki-e-rope ?

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 02 Dec 2015 13:55

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/623 ... hold-Raqqa

ISIS relocating its intl. HQ to Libya after Syria gets too hot for it?
Desperate ISIS moves headquarters to Libya after Raqqa stronghold is BLITZED by airstrikes
ISLAMIC State militants have been forced to establish a new headquarters along Libya's Mediterranean coast as its stronghold in Syria is pounded by Western airstrikes.
By Jake Burman
PUBLISHED: 00:00, Wed, Dec 2, 2015
ISIS has been forced to set up a new stronghold in Sirte

Fighters for the depraved terror group have set up a new global base in Sirte - the former home of Colonel Gaddafi, just a few hours across the Mediterranean from Italy.

British and American forces have been deployed to Libya after a 200km stretch of the coast was seized by the evil jihadis.

The barbaric regime has been running training camps for international extremists from Sirte after coalition forces pounded its Syrian stronghold Raqqa.

The branch in the Libyan coastal city - which has evolved into an "actively managed colony" - is the only arm of ISIS its central leadership controls.

Leaders of the savage terror group have reportedly adopted a slogan reflecting Sirte's heightened profile within the abhorrent organisation: "Sirte will be no less than Raqqa."

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The depraved group has even started encouraging recruits to meet them in Libya

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There are concerns ISIS will sell Libyan oil to fund its barbaric regime

The new stronghold has reportedly seen a rapid growth - rocketing from 200 sick fighters to around 5,000 since ISIS announced its branch there.

There are fears the brutal extremists are using Libya's rich oil resources to finance its evil operations in Syria and Iraq.

Fathi Ali Bashaagha, a politician from Misrata, Libya, warned: "We don't have a real state. We have a fragmented government. Every day we delay on a political deal, it is a golden opportunity for Islamic State to grow."

RaqqaGETTY
The evil terror group are being pushed out of their Raqqa stronghold by Western airstrikes
Tue, December 1, 2015

ISIS is also said to have set up propaganda "media points" in the city and started imposing its strict laws - such as forcing women to wear Islamic veils in public and permitting public executions.

The group has even stopped insisting Muslims travel to Syria to join its caliphate and is instead suggesting recruits go to Libya instead.

A civil engineer who recently fled the city said: "Sirte has gone dark."

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 02 Dec 2015 15:12

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 56826.html

The large proportion of Iraqis who believe the US is supporting Isis
'They are weak. If only America would stop supporting them, we could defeat them in days'

Iraqi security forces take combat position at the front-line at Ramadi supported by U.S.-led coalition airstrikes AP

On the front lines of the battle against Isis, suspicion of the United States runs deep. Iraqi fighters say they have all seen the videos purportedly showing U.S. helicopters airdropping weapons to the militants, and many claim they have friends and relatives who have witnessed similar instances of collusion.

Ordinary people also have seen the videos, heard the stories and reached the same conclusion — one that might seem absurd to Americans but is widely believed among Iraqis — that the United States is supporting Isis for a variety of pernicious reasons that have to do with asserting U.S. control over Iraq, the wider Middle East and, perhaps, its oil.

“It is not in doubt,” said Mustafa Saadi, who says his friend saw U.S. helicopters delivering bottled water to Isis positions. He is a commander in one of the Shiite militias that last month helped push the militants out of the oil refinery near Baiji in northern Iraq alongside the Iraqi army.

Isis is “almost finished,” he said. “They are weak. If only America would stop supporting them, we could defeat them in days.”

Kurdish YPG fighters flash victory signs as they ride in Sinjar after taking the city following extensive US air strikes

U.S. military officials say the charges are too far-fetched to merit a response. “It’s beyond ridiculous,” said Colonel Steve Warren, the military’s Baghdad-based spokesman. “There’s clearly no one in the West who buys it, but unfortunately, this is something that a segment of the Iraqi population believes.”

The perception among Iraqis that the United States is somehow in cahoots with the militants it claims to be fighting appears, however, to be widespread across the country’s sectarian divide, and it speaks to more than just the troubling legacy of mistrust that has clouded the United States’ relationship with Iraq since the 2003 invasion and the subsequent withdrawal eight years later.

At a time when attacks by Isis in Paris and elsewhere have intensified calls for tougher action on the ground, such is the level of suspicion with which the United States is viewed in Iraq that it is unclear whether the Obama administration would be able to significantly escalate its involvement even if it wanted to.

“What influence can we have if they think we are supporting the terrorists?” asked Kirk Sowell, an analyst based in neighboring Jordan who publishes the newsletter Inside Iraqi Politics.

In one example of how little leverage the United States now has, Iraqi Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi pushed back swiftly against an announcement Tuesday by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter that an expeditionary force of U.S. troops will be dispatched to Iraq to conduct raids, free hostages and capture Isis leaders.

Iraq’s semiautonomous region of Kurdistan, where support for the United States remains strong, has said it would welcome more troops. But Abadi indicated they would not be needed.

“There is no need for foreign ground combat troops,” he said in a statement. “Any such support and special operations anywhere in Iraq can only be deployed subject to the approval of the Iraqi Government and in coordination with the Iraqi forces and with full respect to Iraqi sovereignty.”

The allegations of U.S. collusion with Isis are aired regularly in parliament by Shiite politicians and promoted in postings on social media. They are persistent enough to suggest a deliberate campaign on the part of Iran’s allies in Iraq to erode American influence, U.S. officials say.

In one typical recent video that appeared on the Facebook page of a Shiite militia, a lawmaker with the country’s biggest militia group, the Badr Organization, waves apparently new U.S military MREs (meals ready to eat) — one of them chicken and dumplings — allegedly found at a recently captured Isis base in Baiji, offering proof, he said, of U.S. support.

“The Iranians and the Iranian-backed Shiite militias are really pushing this line of propaganda, that the United States is supporting Isis,” Warren said. “It’s part of the Iranian propaganda machine.”

The perception plays into a widening rift within Iraq’s ruling Shiite elite over whether to pivot more toward Iran or the United States. Those pushing the allegations “want to create a narrative that Iran is our ally and the United States is our enemy, and this undermines Abadi, who is America’s ally,” Sowell said/

Iraqi government officials say they don’t believe the charges and point out that Abadi regularly pushes back against them. But Abadi’s own position has weakened in recent months. He is battling for his political survival against a variety of Shiite militia leaders whose power has been bolstered by the increasingly dominant role played by the militias, collectively known as Hashd al-Shaabi, or popular mobilization units.

Iraqi officials complain that their task is hampered by what is universally perceived as the lackluster U.S. response to the threat posed by the Isis.

“We don’t believe the Americans support Daesh,” said Naseer Nouri, spokesman for the Ministry of Defense, using the Arabic acronym for Isis. “But it is true that most people are saying they do, and they are right to believe that the Americans should be doing much more than they are. It’s because America is so slow that most people believe they are supporting Daesh.”

U.S. warplanes routinely fail to respond to requests for air support because of U.S. rules of engagement that preclude strikes if there is a risk civilians may be hit, he said. According to Warren, that standard frequently is not met. The United States has conducted more than 3,768 strikes in Iraq as of 19 November,according to the U.S. military, and the tempo of strikes has increased lately, U.S. officials say.

But it also appears that the fighters are unaware when they do receive U.S. air support. The U.S. military reported near-daily strikes in support of the offensive to recapture Baiji last month and continues to respond regularly to requests for strikes in the vicinity, Warren said.

The fighters there insist there have been no strikes by the Americans at all. “We’d be better off without them,” said 1st Lt. Murtada Fadl, who is serving with the Iraqi elite forces in Baiji. He said that the only air support had come from the Iraqi air force and that he wishes the government would ask the Russians to replace the Americans.

In a part of the world where outcomes are often confused with intentions and regional complexities enable conspiracy theories to thrive, the notion that the United States is colluding with Isis holds a certain logic, according to Mustafa Alani, director of the Dubai-based Gulf Research Center. Most Arabs are too in awe of American might to believe that the United States is deliberately adopting a minimalist approach, he said.

“The reason is that the Americans aren’t doing the job people expect them to do,” he said. “Mosul was lost and the Americans did nothing. Syria was lost and the Americans did nothing. Paris is attacked and the Americans aren’t doing much. So people believe this is a deliberate policy. They can’t believe the American leadership fails to understand the developments in the region, and so the only other explanation is that this is part of a conspiracy.”

On the streets of Baghdad, most Iraqis see no other explanation.

“The image of the U.S. was damaged in the region, so they created Daesh in order to fight them and restore their image,” said Mohammed Abdul Khaleq, a journalist for a local TV station who was drinking coffee in a cafe favored by writers, most of whom said they agreed.

A rare dissenting voice was offered by Hassan Abdul-Wahab, 23, selling luggage in a nearby shop. “It is true that most people believe that,” he said. “But it’s not based on reason. It’s based on racism — because Iraqis don’t like Americans in the first place.”

Washington Post

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 02 Dec 2015 17:02

Next con-narrative: "AL QAEDA" (meaning base directory on hard drive from CIA/ISI Safe House in Peshawar that based Osama Bin Laden) now controls much of Yemen

Abdulatif Said, the head of pro-government committees, said their forces evacuated during the fierce clashes and that both Jaar and Zinjibar are now in the control of al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda destroyed the headquarters for the popular committees in Jaar and killed at least 4 senior popular committee commanders, the officials told CNN.

Taking advantage of the fragile security situation in regions retaken from the Houthi militants and ongoing conflict in others, the militant group has expanded its presence in some southern provinces including Aden, Shabwa and Lahj.

Armored vehicles, funded by Gulf nations, which entered Yemen over the last five months to stop the Houthi expansion are now controlled by al Qaeda, according to a top Aden security official in the governors office. The vehicles were previously controlled by forces loyal to Hadi.

Security, stability lacking

Government forces with support from a Saudi-led coalition drove the Houthi militants out of the southern regions earlier in the year.

But the authorities have been unable to bring the situation under control even after the coalition has also deployed troops to help restore stability and security.
Militants are roaming key streets and targeted killings are on the rise in Aden, the temporary capital. The majority of Aden is controlled by al Qaeda fighters as they control more territory in the country.
Earlier this year, al Qaeda seized Mukalla, the largest city in the province of Hadramout, taking advantage of the conflict sparked by the Houthi militants' seizure of power.
Moreover, (BO-supported)ISIS has lately become active in some cities, including the capital Sanaa where it launched many deadly attacks.
After the unrest erupted in 2011, al Qaeda seized Zinjbar, Jaar and other towns in the south.
In 2012 the army -- with support from U.S. drone attacks -- retook all towns that were under al Qaeda control.
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Multatuli · Post by **Multatuli** » 03 Dec 2015 00:08

Turkey ‘to establish military base in Qatar’

The base would be Ankara’s first in the Gulf region

Dubai: Turkey will establish a military base in Qatar, its President Recep Tayip Erdogan was quoted as saying in Turkish media on Wednesday.

The comments were reportedly made by Edrogan during a trip to Qatar in which several agreements were signed between the two countries, including a gas agreement.

“Turkish and Qatari armies conducted their first joint military drill. Some of our soldiers, who will be deployed at a military base to be established in Qatar, have started their duties,” Erdogan was cited as saying in the Turkish Daily Sabah.

The base would we Turkey’s first in the Gulf region.

Erdogan also said that Turkey views positively possible investment in LNG storage projects with Qatar, hinting that its troubled relations with Russia could make such deals more attractive.

“We viewed positively a possible LNG storage investment or other steps with Qatar, as a result of obvious developments regarding Turkey,” Erdogan told reporters.

Turkey, which relies heavily on energy imports, has previously explored the possibility of such storage projects with Moscow. Relations between the two countries have chilled sharply, after Turkey shot down a Russian warplane last week.

Turkey and Qatar also agreed to visa-free travel between the two countries.

“From now on, visas have been lifted between Turkey and Qatar. The citizens of the two countries can now travel easily. This was a last minute step,” Erdogan said.

Erdogan and Qatari Emir Shaikh Tamim Bin Hamad also chaired the Turkey-Qatar High Strategic Committee’s first meeting in the Qatari capital of Doha during which 15 bilateral agreements were signed. Erdogan said that the visa-free agreement was the 16th agreement between the two countries.

Turkey and Qatar agreed to cooperate in several sectors, including education, environment, science and technology, maritime and energy.

Before the implementation of lifting visas, Qatar required visas for Turkish citizens with a standard passport in order to enter the Gulf country. The visa was obtained at Doha International Airport for 14 days for tourist purposes, reported the Daily Sabah.

http://gulfnews.com/news/mena/turkey/tu ... -1.1630691

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 03 Dec 2015 00:10

Mmm interesting. Pipeline politics. How Turkey and Gulf royals deal with the Kurds will be key.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 03 Dec 2015 10:53

This is an excellent move by the US, if true. It will render Qatari relations with the rest of the Gulf neighbours a total clusterfu(k... Expect another attempted coup not in the distant future... The caliphate is indeed being reborn under Sultan Tayyip.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 03 Dec 2015 17:22

Isn't it the ISIS equivalent of the EU Schengen visa system?

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 04 Dec 2015 01:24

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/yem ... -al-manar/

The Yemeni army spokesman General Sharaf Loqman told Al-Manar website that the preliminary operations have ended and that the strategic escalation stage has started.

“We are ready to escalate operations, and the leadership will settle all the details,” the Yemeni officer said.

“The Yemeni army and popular committees have surrounded the two Saudi cities of Jizan and Najran and the political leadership will take the decision of invading them,” he added.

Luqman noted that the Yemeni army and popular committees are advancing in the various provinces and confronting the Saudi-led terrorists, adding that all the attempts to reach local ceasefire agreements are rejected because the aim is to expel all the terrorists.

General Luqman pointed out that the Yemeni army and popular committees withdrew from the south to let the locals defend their cities.

“However, Qaeda and ISIL terrorists have controlled the area, especially in Aden and Hadramout,” he concluded.

habal · Post by **habal** » 04 Dec 2015 05:13

Houthis advancing on all fronts smashing saudi satan worshipers into pieces and grind meat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa4fJ0eUMtc#t=557

Yemeni army spokesman: More than 75 Saudi's tanks including BFVs destroyed in Jizan, Najran and Asir over the past 3 days.

https://twitter.com/tonytohcy/status/672409169002041346

KSA is in deep problem, they may very well have lost all their SW Provinces with this criminal aggression to Yemen, the fight will continue to go north, the more the Yemeni heroes penetrate the Saudi territory the less resistance by army fortifications and bases they will meet, most of the bases are located in the border. Saudi mobile units can not simply stop the Yemenis fighters,

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 04 Dec 2015 06:23

that part of Saudi seems mountainous..ideal for Yemenis.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 04 Dec 2015 08:18

More than 75 Saudi's tanks including BFVs destroyed

Anyone smell Roosky cordite on those anti-tank weapons?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 04 Dec 2015 13:40

http://swarajyamag.com/world/explained- ... lised-war/

Original Title - Turkey Takes a Potshot at Russia: How Small Wars Become Big Wars

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 04 Dec 2015 21:12

Lalmohan wrote:daesh is not a favourable term, it is a derogatory term in arabic, which is why it is used by the arabs who are against them

Sure. derogatory. But it means pre-islamic pagans. In effect its derogatory to all those who do not believe in one god-one book.

https://clyp.it/pusjzzec

Listen to this 4 min clip from aunty beeb.

---x---

over 2000 saudi military personnel killed in yemen

n a series of tweets released on Thursday morning, the famous Saudi whistleblower known on Twitter as “@Mujtahidd” leaked more information from the Saudi government’s classified files, revealing the army’s death toll and the total number of lost military equipment during the ongoing Yemeni War.

According to the aforementioned source, the Saudi Army has lost almost 2,000 soldiers (4,850 soldiers reportedly wounded), 450 tanks, 4 U.S. manufactured Apache Helicopters, 15 other military aircrafts, 3 boats (destroyed by P-15 Termit anti-ship missiles), and almost 200 billion Saudi riyals in damage.

The Twitter user is well-known for his accurate information and his government leaks that have time and time again proven to be authentic, despite his unknown identity.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 04 Dec 2015 21:15

ah so the less green are criticising the very green by calling them un-green...
nice...

i don't like the idea of calling them IS or ISIS/ISIL either... i think i'll just stick with "orcs"

Shanu · Post by **Shanu** » 04 Dec 2015 21:40

While the Saudis bleed, the IS seems to be preparing for an Iraq style blitzkrieg on Libya.

Found this report from Malta news resource.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/vi ... bya.594457

The first half talks about increased risk from the Libya jihadis to Europe but the real important part is this.

Meanwhile, the Libya Herald reported today that Islamic State in the Libyan coastal city of Sirte has invited residents to attend the celebration of the graduation of 85 kids in a ceremony today.
The youngsters, the oldest of whom are reported to be 16 years old and described in the IS statement as the “Caliphate Cubs”, are said to be trained in the suicide attacks, arms shooting and booby-trapping.
Meanwhile, Sirte news agency has reported that a medium-size ship docked at the city’s port yesterday and unloaded a shipment which contained a considerable number of foreign fighters and weapons.
A source close to the agency reported that some Palestinians were among the foreign nationalities.

Europe is about to get a close view of the Islamic wars.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 05 Dec 2015 12:44

Gents,what tin-cans do the Soothi barbarians use? They must be real tinny to los so many!

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 05 Dec 2015 13:29

Philip wrote:Gents,what tin-cans do the Soothi barbarians use? They must be real tinny to los so many!

It is not the size but how you use them that matters.

We know the quality of the forces of barbaria. Even if you give them Tincans the results would not have been different.

habal · Post by **habal** » 05 Dec 2015 19:26

meanwhile is USA ally Saudi Arabia.

Rana Harbi ‏@RanaHarbi 21h21 hours ago
Today in US-ally Saudi Arabia:
Girls forced to evacuate "girls only school" after man suspected inside school.

Shanu · Post by **Shanu** » 05 Dec 2015 23:35

Meanwhile in Yemen, IS continues to invent new ways of murder. Necessary caution - don't watch this if you have high BP or eating something.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Yemen.html

The Yemen theater is now free for all and the Saudi nut jobs are doing a good job of protecting the Islamists

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 06 Dec 2015 22:17

moral of the story - never surrender to these barbarians

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 06 Dec 2015 22:32

so officially - saudi's/gelfies/al-qaeedas/orcs are all fighting against the houthis...

and orcs are officially executing houthis...

given houthis have the upper hand for the most part, how many prisoners have they taken and what are they doing with them?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 07 Dec 2015 06:33

Presumably there is a good reason why Saudi towns look deserted, and the tank drivers run when they see Houthis.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Dec 2015 08:57

so the uAE/saudi/merc invasion as I predicted was a cover to let AQ/IS first take over the eastern provinces (done) and then move to the areas around Aden on the SW quadrant and control that too. the KSA/emiratis deftly backed out and let the mercs and africans fight the Saleh govt in the north, while AQ/IS JV rules the roost in Aden.

congrats to KSA and USA - a new caliphate has now been birthed as a secure NATO+GCC protected area away from russian claws. a lot of Raqqa elites will now find good place to disappear here. yemen is a big place. and its protected by Saudi F-15s

perhaps the plan is to use this as a new 'incubator' and 'code camp' of jihadi outfits before unleashing them on the bear in places around the caspian and chechnya. TSP might buy a strategic 20% stake as well and contribute its mite as a experienced angel investor.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 07 Dec 2015 09:27

Anyone keeping scores on ships lost by Saudi coalition to Houthis- is this new or old ? What's the size of Saudi Navy?

Al-Masdar News ‏@TheArabSource now2 minutes ago
Yemeni Army Destroys #Saudi-Led Coalition Warship http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/20212/ #Yemen

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 07 Dec 2015 11:53

Singha wrote:so the uAE/saudi/merc invasion as I predicted was a cover to let AQ/IS first take over the eastern provinces (done) and then move to the areas around Aden on the SW quadrant and control that too. the KSA/emiratis deftly backed out and let the mercs and africans fight the Saleh govt in the north, while AQ/IS JV rules the roost in Aden.

congrats to KSA and USA - a new caliphate has now been birthed as a secure NATO+GCC protected area away from russian claws. a lot of Raqqa elites will now find good place to disappear here. yemen is a big place. and its protected by Saudi F-15s

perhaps the plan is to use this as a new 'incubator' and 'code camp' of jihadi outfits before unleashing them on the bear in places around the caspian and chechnya. TSP might buy a strategic 20% stake as well and contribute its mite as a experienced angel investor.

actually, Yemen could become a "clearing house" for all sorts of assorted Sunni Jihadis. it is a coastal country. quite literally, a nice transit point for Jihadis between Africa and the Subcontinent.

the first Arab incursions on India were naval pirate raids before Qasim made it to Sindh. If Yemen does effectively become a Jihadi houriland, can we rule out in future a small but effective pirate navy that is in cahoots with TSP?

I can't see for how long we can continue to pretend that this scenario does not concern us. There is a limit to delusions.

Our near periphery is effectively being taken over by forces that are irredeemably hostile to us.

I think it's time for us to more seriously consider reaching some sort of consensus with Iran in the East and Israel in the West. Even if it is covert. The possibility of Af-Pak dissolving into a combined overt Jihadi front against India is becoming more and more real by the day. We will have to take PoK neutralize the Paki Kabila threat in Pindi and the Northern areas. There is no alternative but to cut off TSP from PRC and start the process of absorbing it back into India.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 07 Dec 2015 11:55

Finally voices are speaking out against Soothi barbarianism.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -West.html
German vice-chancellor accuses Saudi Arabia of funding Islamic extremism in the West
In a highly unusual moment of a Western politician attacking a critical Arab ally, Sigmar Gabriel says the time has come to make it clear to Riyadh the time of looking away is over

Mr Gabriel is Angela Merkel’s deputy and the leader of the German chancellor's main coalition partner.

His intervention comes just days after German intelligence issued a rare public warning that Saudi Arabia is at risk of becoming a major destabilising force in the Arab world.

Mrs Merkel’s government quickly distanced itself from the BND intelligence service’s assessment, saying it did not reflect official policy.

But Mr Gabriel’s remarks make it clear there are serious misgivings about the Saudi regime within the government.

Wahhabism, a fundamentalist sect of Sunni Islam that inspired both Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) and al-Qaeda is also the official form of the religion in Saudi Arabia.

The Saudis have long funded the building of Wahhabi mosques around the world to spread the sect.

King Salman has already been widely criticised in the German media for offering to build 200 mosques for Syrian refugees arriving in Germany, even as Saudi Arabia refuses to take in any refugees itself.

Mr Gabriel’s linking of Saudi-funded mosques to Islamic extremism will heighten concerns over the offer.

It is not the first time he has clashed with the Saudi royal family.

On a trip to Riyadh earlier this year he spoke out in support of Raif Badawi, a Saudi blogger sentenced to 1,000 lashes for insulting Islam.

He also intervened to block a deal to build a German arms factory in Saudi Arabia which had been approved by a previous German government.

“Of course we need Saudi Arabia to solve the conflicts in the region,” Mr Gabriel told Bild am Sonntag. “We cannot and must not ignore the country.

“And it does not help to put it in the pillory every day, because that won’t increase its readiness for serious negotiations over Syria.”

The German parliament on Friday voted to deploy up to 1,200 military personnel to support international air strikes against Isil.

German forces will not directly take part in combat missions, but will provide reconnaissance flights and force protection.

• Revealed: Saudi Arabia's manifesto for change in the face of rumours of coup plots

Saudi Arabia is to host a conference of Syrian rebel factions opposed to both Isil and the regime of Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, next week.

Isil has claimed responsibility for a number of terror attacks in Saudi Arabia.

But there have also been persistent allegations the Saudis supplied arms and funding to Isil and other jihadist groups in the Syrian civil war.

Human rights in Saudi Arabia
Raif Badawi (l) and Ali Mohammed al-Nimr

Saudi Arabia has long been criticised for its harsh social codes and punishments, imposed under its puritanical version of Sharia law.
Flogging

Raif Badawi, a blogger, received 50 lashes in January of a sentence of 1,000 lashes and ten years' jail for criticising the religious establishment. He has received no more since his case was raised by international human rights groups, and even the Prince of Wales at a meeting with the new King Salman in February. In October 2015 it also emerged that Karl Andree, a 74-year-old Briton, would not receive the flogging to which he had apparently been sentenced for being in possession of home-brew alcohol.
Beheading

Ali Mohammed al-Nimr was arrested in February 2012 when he was just 17 and accused of organising protests. He was sentenced to death by beheading and crucifixion, along with his uncle, a leading Shia cleric. Philip Hammond, the Foreign Secretary, said last month he did not expect the sentence to be carried out. However, murderers, drug dealers and others convicted on purely criminal charges are often beheaded in public.
Women's rights

While women did in 2015 get to register to vote and can stand for local elections, they are still required to have permission from a "guardian" such as a father, husband or brother to travel freely. Wearing modest clothes and a headscarf in public is compulsory. They are also banned from driving.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 07 Dec 2015 11:59

devesh wrote:
Singha wrote:so the uAE/saudi/merc invasion as I predicted was a cover to let AQ/IS first take over the eastern provinces (done) and then move to the areas around Aden on the SW quadrant and control that too. the KSA/emiratis deftly backed out and let the mercs and africans fight the Saleh govt in the north, while AQ/IS JV rules the roost in Aden.

congrats to KSA and USA - a new caliphate has now been birthed as a secure NATO+GCC protected area away from russian claws. a lot of Raqqa elites will now find good place to disappear here. yemen is a big place. and its protected by Saudi F-15s

perhaps the plan is to use this as a new 'incubator' and 'code camp' of jihadi outfits before unleashing them on the bear in places around the caspian and chechnya. TSP might buy a strategic 20% stake as well and contribute its mite as a experienced angel investor.
actually, Yemen could become a "clearing house" for all sorts of assorted Sunni Jihadis. it is a coastal country. quite literally, a nice transit point for Jihadis between Africa and the Subcontinent.

the first Arab incursions on India were naval pirate raids before Qasim made it to Sindh. If Yemen does effectively become a Jihadi houriland, can we rule out in future a small but effective pirate navy that is in cahoots with TSP?

I can't see for how long we can continue to pretend that this scenario does not concern us. There is a limit to delusions.

Our near periphery is effectively being taken over by forces that are irredeemably hostile to us.

I think it's time for us to more seriously consider reaching some sort of consensus with Iran in the East and Israel in the West. Even if it is covert. The possibility of Af-Pak dissolving into a combined overt Jihadi front against India is becoming more and more real by the day. We will have to take PoK neutralize the Paki Kabila threat in Pindi and the Northern areas. There is no alternative but to cut off TSP from PRC and start the process of absorbing it back into India.

If Sindh was still part of Bhaarath, then it would make sense to worry about Yemen and middle-east. Right now, India's near periphery is Sindh and Pakjab.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 07 Dec 2015 12:09

^^^
I disagree. Pak is a mistake. It's ideology is an abomination. It is occupying territories of India.

The Gulf is India's "near-periphery". History is evidence of this. We have never been immune to the flow of events that starts on the Eastern edge of the Mediterranean. The Persian Gulf region is an area of particular interest for India.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 07 Dec 2015 12:19

devesh wrote:^^^
I disagree. Pak is a mistake. It's ideology is an abomination. It is occupying territories of India.

The Gulf is India's "near-periphery". History is evidence of this. We have never been immune to the flow of events that starts on the Eastern edge of the Mediterranean. The Persian Gulf region is an area of particular interest for India.

Actually, you are right, we should not ignore the middle-east completely. We can gain influence in middle-east and use that influence to gain influence in Sindh & Pakjab. But, that seems like a more difficult method to me as long as Pakjab & Sindh are not in Bhaarath's influence. I still think that our primary focus should be on the near-periphery which is Sindh & Pakjab right now in the west. But, I agree with you that middle-east can't be ignored by Bhaarath.

All I am trying to say is that logistically we need Sindh & Pakjab if we want to exert influence in middle-east.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Dec 2015 11:36

In a predictable turn of events, there are no yemenis left in Yemen, only colombians and ISIS/Al Qaeda. The reason being most Yemenis are in Saudi Arabia.

On Monday morning in the southern Saudi Arabian province of Jizan, the Yemeni Army’s Republican Guard and the Houthis seized a strategic military center inside the city of Radeef after killing several enemy combatants from the Saudi-led Coalition Forces that are made-up of primarily foreign mercenaries and soldiers from the Gulf states.

In addition to their success inside the Jizan Region, the Yemeni Army’s Republican Guard and the Houthis have finally seized the Kofal Camp (Brigade 312) in the Marib Province of Yemen after besieging this imperative site for two months; this loss now leaves the Hadi loyalists in a vulnerable position at the Marib Dam.

Currently, the Saudi-led Coalition Forces are attempting to retake the Saudi city of Rabuah in the Asir Governorate from the Yemeni Republican Guard and the Houthis; however, they have been so far unsuccessful.

Adding to the plight of Saudi Arabia, their allies from Al-Qaeda (Ansar Al-Shari’ah) have turned on the Hadi loyalists inside the important port-city of Aden and several other sites in southern Yemen; this battle is likely to intensify in the coming days.

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/yem ... di-arabia/