Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

member_23692 · Post by **member_23692** » 09 Dec 2015 21:55

CRamS wrote:
SSridhar wrote:We will have wonderful discussion in the days and weeks ahead.
SSJi, I hope there is a well thought out strategy from ModiJi.

Of course, there is a well thought out strategy on part of India, in all of this. It is called, "bend over and dont even use vaseline". A thousand years of Islamic rule in India where Hindus were subjected to ISIS like brutality and even worse, the ultimate in ethnic cleansing and the worst form of genocide known to man, have rendered the Hindus too used to "the grand strategy".

And we never fail to invoke the idea of a "grand strategy", nor do we ever get tired of using that phrase, even if almost everyday, we get "bent over" by Pakis-all in the name of Islam.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 09 Dec 2015 22:00

shiv wrote:Duh talks were supposed to have been about terror only and guess what the joint statement says?
, "The EAM (Sushma Swaraj) and the Advisor (Sartaj Aziz) condemned terrorism and resolved to cooperate to eliminate it. They noted the successful talks on terrorism and security related issues in Bangkok by the two NSAs and decided that the NSAs will continue to address all issues connected to terrorism. The Indian side was assured of the steps being taken to expedite the early conclusion of the Mumbai trial.I suspect this has been done behind Obama's back. India will be punished for this by 3.5.

I suspect India might become one of secret 3.5 BF of Pakistan as per instruction from 3.5 only.

Paki have been told, ordered or slapped into thinking that with terrorist agenda , CPAC will become true Pakistan in Pakistan to destroy Pakistan by producing hell of lot of Pakistan to fight Pakistan to take care of Probem of Pakistan (PoP) Permanently.Pakistan is now afraid of Pakistan and want to preempt Pakistani to abort half, stillborn coming Pakistan.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 09 Dec 2015 22:05

Ghazni and Ghori mostly ravaged the regions which are today in Pakistan. People who were actually tormented by the invaders were mostly the ancestors of todays Pakistanis and Afghanis. They were defeated and converted. The undefeated were unconverted. Today Pakistan worships the same Ghaznis and Ghoris who raped and looted their ancestors.

As for Modi sarkaar, sure there may be pressure from the fore-fathers of Baki-land to talk. But, Modi sarkaar is quite nationalistic and talks on its terms. Frankly, there is no reason for rhona dhona so far especially compared to the policy of previous regimes. But, I would love to see more platform given to Baloch, Pashtun and Sindh freedom fighters.

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 09 Dec 2015 22:11

I am glad GoI is responding correctly by completely ignoring cricket. Nothing hurts the pakis worse than being completely ignored and shown their place. Expect presstitute to whine a lot but the cricket series is over. Pakis will throw a tantrum and threaten to boycott T-20 WC and for once I hope we let them boycott it. It will kill them off the cricket world and we can replace them with Afghanistan and Nepal in Asia cup.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 09 Dec 2015 22:59

How much of a bet that these guys were all Pakistani origin

http://www.aviationrepublic.com/gang-of ... -40-years/

saip · Post by **saip** » 09 Dec 2015 23:08

Possibly. But the victims (at least the ones mentioned in the report) were all Muslims too.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 09 Dec 2015 23:18

^^ How does that matter? If there is anything we know by now about TSP, its that they'll attack anyone and everyone, including fellow Muslims.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 09 Dec 2015 23:30

Jhujar wrote:Madam Fair retweeted that no Paki dignitary was present at Isloo to receive SS. What gives ? Heartburn, plain insult or just vanila stupidity for which Paki are famous for.

This is good, I would be more worried if they went out of their way to give her the royal treatment.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 09 Dec 2015 23:36

^^ Exactly. Mega snub to SS ==> No Modi visit ==> Modi safe.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Dec 2015 23:43

I hope the Kirket bashers will go and eat crow soup no?

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 09 Dec 2015 23:46

Doubt it. In a weeks time they will be asking the same "have you stopped beating your wife" sort of qns again. Will Modi play kriket? Is Modi going to surrender to TSP? Guys tell me? Why are you all getting irritated? Oh you must hate me. BTW, will Modi play kriket with Pakistan?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 09 Dec 2015 23:48

RamanaGaru, I am happy to be proved wrong on kirket. But I still need to get details on why composite dialogue is resumed.

rsangram, you are being a tad hyperbolic IMO. Like I mentioned above, I am not happy with the resumption of composite dialogue, perhaps there are good reasons for the resumption, but I don't think its bending over backwards. If that were so, kirket would have also been resumed. There seems to be a strategy. We will know more details in the coming days.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 09 Dec 2015 23:50

Falijee wrote:Dawood Ibrahim's assets in India to be auctioned by govt
Reuters — Published about 2 hours ago

Investigations should be fast tracked to put more of such assets/properties (of the benaami category) on the auction block

This is the basic manner in which this Govt is different. They will "talk, talk, hit, hit", in the immortal words of PVNR.
In short, each time some GOI functionary "says" something, dont get your BP up. But observe the actual actions.

saip · Post by **saip** » 09 Dec 2015 23:54

ramana wrote:I hope the Kirket bashers will go and eat crow soup no?

Not quite.

Indo-Pak series to be held from Dec 24-Jan 5: Sources

Link

Who are these sources? And what do they know, when did they know?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Dec 2015 23:57

Falijee wrote:Dawood Ibrahim's assets in India to be auctioned by govt
Reuters — Published about 2 hours ago

Investigations should be fast tracked to put more of such assets/properties (of the benaami category) on the auction block

Will it include #Bhaiwood stars like Anil Kapoor, Salman Khan and Shahrukh Khan etc.?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Dec 2015 23:59

CRS, Read the MEA statement.

Para 2 talks about what conditions to Para 3.

Para 3 becomes null and void if Para 2 is not fulfilled.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 10 Dec 2015 00:04

Also every month the talks get delayed leads to filling the ammo coffers which UPA made sure were also empty.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 10 Dec 2015 01:01

Paki Anal-ist Attempts To Explains "The Untouchable Imam of Lal Masjid"

Abdul Aziz’s Jihadlings

Tashfeen Malik, the female shooter in the San Bernardino attack that killed 14 last week, is believed to have links with Abdul Aziz’s Lal Masjid. Or at least that’s what US officials are being reported to have conveyed to the Pakistani government representatives in a recent meeting in London. Insiders confirm that evidence was provided to the Pakistani contingent showcasing Tashfeen’s affiliation with Lal Masjid, coupled with the unsaid, and yet deafening, call to ‘do more’.

Believing that Tashfeen Malik was sent by Lal Masjid cleric Abdul Aziz on a terror mission to California would be generous overestimation of the madrassa’s reach, if not aspirations. More crucially though, buying the interior ministry’s off the record claims that Aziz is ‘no longer a threat’ domestically, is underestimation of the same.

It will be "business as usual" for the maulvi,( A Deep State Asset ) once "Massa" gets over this latest incident !

Granted, the man who notoriously refused to condemn the APS attack last year is now seen condemning Paris attacks, and even the San Bernardino shooting. Granted also, that he might no longer have as strong a network in place to target heads of the Pakistani state through suicide bombers, or unleash them throughout Punjab. Even so, this is the same man who only four weeks ago launched a “movement to enforce Shariah” in Islamabad, reminiscent of circa 2007, in blatant defiance of Pakistan’s Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA) 1997. When informed through an official letter about his ATA breach, Aziz said in a social media message: “But for the regard of decency, I would have torn to pieces the deputy commissioner’s note.”

But, on the advice of his mentors, he has "toned down his rhetoric", until the latest matter cools down .

Such audacity to flout at the government, the military and law enforcement agencies, while sitting smack in the middle of the state capital, is only possible if it’s bulwarked by the assurance that no one is going to touch him. Whether that assurance comes from Aziz’s friends – and apprentices – in the government and establishment, or from his personal reading of the security situation, only he would know best.

Like Hafiz- Suar, he is also untouchable

Tashfeen Malik’s posthumous entrance into this non-starting showdown between the state and Aziz is completely superfluous as far as the state taking any action is concerned. If Aziz is a ‘strategic asset’ worthier than the TTP, or Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), Islamabad is perfectly capable of consuming eons of ‘do more’ calls without any eyelids being batted, or damns being given, in the Parliament or GHQ.
While Abdul Aziz has distanced himself and Lal Masjid from the San Bernardino shooter, facts pertaining to Tashfeen’s links with the mosque, or Pakistan in general, just like the magnitude of Abdul Aziz’s current wherewithal, are irrelevant to the bigger picture anyway. The picture that paints Tashfeen as a success story for Lal Masjid’s jihadlings.

What is the role of the Saudi Arabia, in making sure that the Paki authorities do not come hard on him; he appears to be some sort of a guardian/ally for Saudi ideology in Pakiland

Tashfeen might never have set foot in Lal Masjid, nor had any connections with Abdul Aziz, but rest assured thaTrt is not what is being taught in the ‘Sleepy Hollow’ of the mosque and Jamia Hafsa; the hidden chambers where the fatwa against the Pakistan Army was deliberated over in 2003, suicide bombers were trained to kill Pervez Musharraf and guidelines were issued for the 2005 London bombings. In those chambers, which were famously unscrewed and laid bare in 2007, Tashfeen is peddled as a hero who ‘embraced martyrdom for Allah’ fighting the ‘infidels’ in America – the emblem of Satan. That the ISIS-supporting Tashfeen is believed to be a Lal Masjid product will only fuel the ambitions of the Jamia Hafsa students that pledged allegiance to ISIS in a social media video last year.

But this belies the bombastic statement from the "Bad Sharif" and his ISPR henchman that there is no namo-nishan of ISIS in the Land Of The Pure

That Aziz and his jihadlings haven’t orchestrated violence in the recent past, doesn’t mean that they don’t intend do. Abdul Aziz might not have the same ominous resources, but in Tashfeen he has chanced upon a world-renowned apprentice.(without disastrous results for the Ummah if the Aam Abduls Of Amreeka decide to bring in Donald Trump as POTUS ) The next time a vociferous rally is allowed to come out of Lal Masjid, it would be surprising if it settles for sloganeering and a journey end at Jamia Hafsa.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 10 Dec 2015 01:02

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umy_wvu_LCM
Patient Shahid Masscood at 4

Sherry & Gullheri. Retards Off The Record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxu4zDK3u2o

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 10 Dec 2015 01:07

ramana wrote:
Falijee wrote:Dawood Ibrahim's assets in India to be auctioned by govt
Reuters — Published about 2 hours ago

Investigations should be fast tracked to put more of such assets/properties (of the benaami category) on the auction block

Will it include #Bhaiwood stars like Anil Kapoor, Salman Khan and Shahrukh Khan etc.?

These should all be transferred to GOI and become military assets as private sector guys are too afraid to touch it lest C-system gets back and its free for all again. Make it a services or RAW or IB asset and security will automatically follow.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 10 Dec 2015 03:04

saip wrote:
ramana wrote:I hope the Kirket bashers will go and eat crow soup no?
Not quite.

Indo-Pak series to be held from Dec 24-Jan 5: Sources

Link

Who are these sources? And what do they know, when did they know?

There you go.

According to a reliable source in the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), the tentative dates

partha · Post by **partha** » 10 Dec 2015 03:10

KLNMurthy wrote:
There you go.
According to a reliable source in the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), the tentative dates

They are still spreading the lies. Probably to keep "PSL investors" interested for as long as they can. Shahryar Khan's desperation reminds me of Rakhee in Karan Arjun "mere Karan Arjun aayenge".

sukhish · Post by **sukhish** » 10 Dec 2015 03:56

what's the need to resume the comprehensive dialogue at the first place, cricket ties were frozen right from the get go. the same they we had an encounter in sopore. what the hell is this. they can keep killing and we will keep talking. why are we even talking ?

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 10 Dec 2015 04:21

Pakistani diplomat's son arrested for sex with 13-year-old girl
New York.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/dip ... -1.2460043

saip · Post by **saip** » 10 Dec 2015 05:26

Why did SA lie for its Munna? To bring equal equal into this terrorism crap. They claimed Malik visited India. And now,

No record to show US shooter visited India: Govt

thorough check run by Indian intelligence agencies on immigration or visa records has failed to show up any trace of California mass shooting suspect Tashfeen Malik's visit to India in 2013, as alleged by a Saudi interior ministry official.

"There is no way a Pakistani citizen can escape the scanner as the checks are much stringent in their case. Malik may have either not visited at all or transited through an Indian airport on a connecting flight,

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 10 Dec 2015 05:27

abhijitm wrote: 3. 26/11 happened just before the 15th election. Unlike Kandahar hijack UPA did handle the incident with tough hand. I am aware that it is not exactly an apple to apple compare. I am just trying to establish that it can play in common man's mind. UPA won that election.

4. MMS's affection towards pakisan was evident in his second term. UPA's soft handling of pakistan post 26/11 was evident. Modi used this issue in the next election. UPA lost and NDA won the last election.

That seems rather contradictory no?

Plus you overlook the key factor in those elections- Corruption and economy. Pakistan, if anything was a footnote and it was barely mentioned in the campaign speeches.

UPA won 2009 elections inspite of 26/11.

sum · Post by **sum** » 10 Dec 2015 05:55

^^ IIRC, UPA won purely based on MMS being put up as the clean, dummy face and with DDM hyping him up as "Singh is King" etc ( and of course, a dissipated BJP which posed no challenge).

TSP barely figured in 2009

LakshO · Post by **LakshO** » 10 Dec 2015 05:59

sukhish wrote:what's the need to resume the comprehensive dialogue at the first place, cricket ties were frozen right from the get go. the same they we had an encounter in sopore. what the hell is this. they can keep killing and we will keep talking. why are we even talking ?

I agree. Talking to pakis was totally unnecessary. Of the 3½ friends, it is the US that has the clout to prod us to talk. I wish NM/AD/BJP pushed back refusing to open any dialogue till India's concerns on terror from pakiland are adequately addressed (paki pig Lakhvi back in jail, completion of 26/11 Mumbai attack trial, paki pig Hafiz nitwit under lock and key, ityadi).

I notice a pattern in our dealings with pakiland.
1. Terrorist attack occurs (parliament, 26/11 Mumbai etc)
2. An outraged India suspends all talks, no kirkit/IPL for pakis, no pakis in bhaiwood etc. India holds this line for months successfully.
3. pakis whine to US about tense eastern border, need to defuse, concessions, normalcy, p2p contact, shared heritage, destiny blah, blah, blah. Rest of 3½ friends (UK, KSA, PRC, Japan) neither have that clout nor do they care as Amrika bahadur is on the job.
4. pakis indulge in window dressing, spout some garbage on being a victim of terrorism, try to get some US military hardware for fighting alqaeda, haqqani network, assorted terrorists.
5. US prods India to restart contacts. India doesn't push back citing lack of progress on terror targeted at India but wilts. For starting talks, India gets nothing to show for; Amrikis get tall talk from pakis; pakis get mil hardware from Amrika and talks with India. What does India get in return? paki pig lakvi is loose, hafiz organizes a bigger rally to rant against India.

Did I miss anything? I wish I was wrong but successive governments have let down people of India. I hoped NM/AD/BJP would be different.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 10 Dec 2015 06:11

A_Gupta wrote:Sushma Swaraj's speech at the Heart of Asia:
http://mea.gov.in/Speeches-Statements.htm?dtl/26131

Almost one-half of the speech is about connecting Afghanistan with India through Pakistan. India is bringing on enormous pressure on Pakistan.

The other significant statement was "India is ready to work with Afghanistan to strengthen its defensive capability" because "Afghanistan is threatened most by terrorism and not tribal or ethnic rivalries."

Pulikeshi · Post by **Pulikeshi** » 10 Dec 2015 06:45

SSridhar wrote: Almost one-half of the speech is about connecting Afghanistan with India through Pakistan. India is bringing on enormous pressure on Pakistan.

Asking someone to do a thing is more productive than telling them not to do something

DDM & several on BRF (India will GUBO onlee

) seem a bit clueless on this Govts stratagem - which is a win!

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 10 Dec 2015 07:58

saip wrote:Why did SA lie for its Munna? To bring equal equal into this terrorism crap. They claimed Malik visited India. And now,

Not going to bother to search for it but I think the report that Saudi stated that Touchfeeln had been in India came from a Paki source. Pakistani media are habituated to lying. I admit that all media lie - but Pakistani media stand out.

arun · Post by **arun** » 10 Dec 2015 08:34

Non-Resident(?) RAPEtte by name of Saadia Faruqi indulging in taqiyyah to gull credulous Amir Khan’s in Huffington Post.

"Pakistan Is Not the Place Americans Think It Is" : Huffington Post

Pakistan undoubtedly has an educated and liberal upper-class but it has a significantly larger uneducated and un-liberal non-upperclass. Why it even has an educated and non-liberal upperclass a case in point being San Bernardino shooter Tashfeen Malik who was educated as a pharmacist, was related to a Provincial Minister and came from an affluent background. Another example is the London School of Economics educated associate of Osama Bin Laden’s Al-Qaeda, Khalid Sheikh Mohammaded. Yet another example of is female Al Qaeda operative Aafia Siddiqui who did her BS from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and her Phd from the elite Brandeis University.

While one may debate if Pakistani women are undoubtedly some of the most determined and intelligent women in the world, unfortunately that claimed quality has tended to have been exhibited in a negative manner by Pakistani women. Examples of San Bernardino shooter Tashfeen Malik and MIT and Brandeis educated Aafia Siddiqui, are wholly negative.

The comes the Vagina Monologues theme articulated this time as "Pakistan has a top-notch creative scene including music, fashion and art" and what will make Dr. Christine Fair happy as a plug of the theme brought out by her book "Cusines of the Axis of Evil and Other Irritating States", "Pakistani cuisine is some of the most delicious in the world".

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 10 Dec 2015 08:42

shiv wrote:
saip wrote:Why did SA lie for its Munna? To bring equal equal into this terrorism crap. They claimed Malik visited India. And now,
Not going to bother to search for it but I think the report that Saudi stated that Touchfeeln had been in India came from a Paki source. Pakistani media are habituated to lying. I admit that all media lie - but Pakistani media stand out.

It is the gullibility of the reader when reading such news that is surprising. Paki media lied to take the heat off Pakis and get the Indians under the lens. Paki doing '= =' all over again.

Who fell for it? Indians reading that link on BRF. And Indians helped get the focus on Indians by giving credence to Paki news report. Sorry if it sounds like rant/anguish but this story of believing stupid media reports from mil threads to strategy threads to tech & econ threads to GDF - its all pervasive. Either it is an attempt by posters to start flame wars or just being plane lazy to do basic due diligence before posting such links or commenting on them.

I refuse to agree that this is happens because of naive beliefs on media honesty specially if its Paki.

I am not leaving myself out of this 'trust the liar' sydrome. Everyone needs to be careful if the discussions here have to be serious.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 10 Dec 2015 08:47

Impact of Indian construction on rivers to be evaluated

ISLAMABAD: Having lost a couple of major international arbitrations in water disputes, the government has decided to carry out a comprehensive study to evaluate the impact of Indian construction on rivers flowing into Pakistan.The 2013 judgment by the International Court of Arbitration over the Kishanganga hydropower project dispute had gone against Pakistan, mainly because of inability of the authorities to provide data that could establish water uses inside areas under its control in Azad Kashmir as well as the project’s environmental impact.The government’s belated challenge to the Baglihar hydropower project before a neutral expert also could not yield desired results as the project structure was acknowledged as fait accompli.This is among some of the issues on which the provincial governments will submit their recommendations at a brainstorming session of stakeholders to be organised by the Water and Power Development Authority on Thursday, according to official papers.The provincial governments are accused of utilising their constitutionally guaranteed water shares without paying for the infrastructure use and the authorities are of the view that there should be a mechanism for building and servicing this infrastructure.According to the official papers, a substantial part of Pakistan’s fresh water resource is generated outside the country. The Indus Water Treaty provided a mechanism for sharing water with India, but there were some critical issues which had obstructed the implementation of the treaty over the last 55 years.For example, the provisions in the treaty for unlimited hydropower development in upper catchments have the potential of threatening water availability in lower catchments during low flow periods. The treaty did not provide for minimum environmental flows downstream international boundary for the eastern rivers, which exposed downstream population to serious environment hazards.In view of such issues, the authorities also visualise problems on the western rivers. For example, upstream developments on Kabul river have been planned and implemented, but there is no formal agreement on sharing its water between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
The authorities now argue that there should be a mechanism for sharing trans-boundary aquifers and a joint watershed management, including sharing of real-time flow information. Therefore, it has been decided to carry out a study to “evaluate the impact of developments in the upper catchment” of rivers flowing from across borders on environment, agriculture and hydropower projects, including the existing and those planned for future, in the lower catchment.The study “shall also recommend measures to minimise these impacts within the framework of the Indus Water Treaty and international water laws”.
The climate change will also lead to increased intrusion of saline water in the Indus delta, adversely affecting coastal agriculture, mangroves and fisheries and rising temperatures resulting in enhanced heat and water-stress conditions, particularly in arid and semi-arid regions, leading to reduced agricultural productivity.With a rise in temperature as a result of climate change, crops will require more water due to excessive evaporation and cattle will consume more water. Domestic consumption will also increase. The precipitation pattern will become more complex, less predictable on a long-term basis with stronger regional variations than being experienced now and aquifer could be affected with negative impact on agricultural output.The authorities have proposed that in order to understand the shift in rainfall patterns, a local climate model should be prepared by pooling computing resources for adapting global climate models to local conditions. Collaboration should be worked out with international agencies and organisations specialising in weather simulation modelling as well as active participation in new international initiatives for climate services.“The impact of climate change shall be minimised by storing water in carryover surface storages and in underground storages and adaptive measures shall be worked out to adjust to impacts of climate changes,” stated a working paper prepared for the stakeholders’ meeting.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 10 Dec 2015 08:54

Expressian on Indian side's faces says it all. Talks between Indo Pak in 80s. Can see Abdus Sattar on Paki side and maybe Niaz Naik.

BTW FS Romesh Bhandari was a key flunkey of Rajeev Gandhi. His wife IIRC is from royal family of Patiala.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 10 Dec 2015 09:34

Kashi wrote:
abhijitm wrote: 3. 26/11 happened just before the 15th election. Unlike Kandahar hijack UPA did handle the incident with tough hand. I am aware that it is not exactly an apple to apple compare. I am just trying to establish that it can play in common man's mind. UPA won that election.

4. MMS's affection towards pakisan was evident in his second term. UPA's soft handling of pakistan post 26/11 was evident. Modi used this issue in the next election. UPA lost and NDA won the last election.
That seems rather contradictory no?

Plus you overlook the key factor in those elections- Corruption and economy. Pakistan, if anything was a footnote and it was barely mentioned in the campaign speeches.

UPA won 2009 elections inspite of 26/11.

Handling the incident and handling pakistan post incident. One would expect pakistan would be dealt with hard hand which didn't happen.

Of course there were many key factors in all the elections. My point was not to establish that pakistan related incidents were the key factors. It was whether those incident play any role in shaping the minds of common men, which I think should be.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 10 Dec 2015 09:35

deejay wrote:
Who fell for it? Indians reading that link on BRF. And Indians helped get the focus on Indians by giving credence to Paki news report. Sorry if it sounds like rant/anguish but this story of believing stupid media reports from mil threads to strategy threads to tech & econ threads to GDF - its all pervasive. Either it is an attempt by posters to start flame wars or just being plane lazy to do basic due diligence before posting such links or commenting on them.

I refuse to agree that this is happens because of naive beliefs on media honesty specially if its Paki.

I am not leaving myself out of this 'trust the liar' sydrome. Everyone needs to be careful if the discussions here have to be serious.

Absolutely true and BRF's self congratulation sounds hollow when we spend pages and pages discussing a fake news item released from a Pakistani source. Don't want to sound cynical and nasty but we are Hindus to the core - worshipping the published word as Goddess Saraswati herself. i have lost count of the number of fake Pakistani news items that have been discussed as true - causing us to self flagellate and argue. Pointing out that the item is a Paki source or a Paki source quoted by an Indian source is no use. We just fall for it every every time, blindly and unquestioningly.

Rohit_K · Post by **Rohit_K** » 10 Dec 2015 09:54

NSFW/NSFL ALERT

Packees slaughtered a cow on top of an Indian flag to show their packiness - link to pic

Cap suggests these guys are Sindhi.

BharadwajV · Post by **BharadwajV** » 10 Dec 2015 11:33

Enough about Cricket, time for Arrah 'O' Lympics:
https://www.facebook.com/l4lol/videos/1635983556676493/

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 10 Dec 2015 11:42

abhijitm wrote:Handling the incident and handling pakistan post incident. One would expect pakistan would be dealt with hard hand which didn't happen.

Of course there were many key factors in all the elections. My point was not to establish that pakistan related incidents were the key factors. It was whether those incident play any role in shaping the minds of common men, which I think should be.

Both were abject failures. The ineptness and lack of fortitude in handling the incident was evident to all. The country felt humiliated and angry that a 10 terrorists could enter by boat and whole the commercial capital hostage for 3 days.

Those events had a long lasting effect on the common man and yet the party and the government that had failed miserably, swept the assembly and lok sabha seats in the very city where the carnage had played out full on live TV.

2004 witnessed a euphoric cricket series win for India in Pakistan- in tests and ODIs. The first time it ever happened. In the elections that happened soon after, guess what happened?