Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

nirav · Post by **nirav** » 13 Jan 2016 00:22

Jhujar wrote:Pakistan part of Saudi-led counter-terror coalition: Sartaj
Janitorial Job Filled:Faithfool,Groomer of Arab Stool,Glad Tidding, Hazoor said Nauqri Manzoor

You are gifted, Jhujar ji ..

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 13 Jan 2016 03:08

Falijee wrote:Pakistan is also victim of terrorism, says Indian minister

As famous saying goes, a murderer who killed his own parents is also an orphan.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 13 Jan 2016 03:13

I am sure it is a US or India conspiracy.. I first head it from an USA source..
Recent news: 5.6-magnitude quake shakes Islamabad too..
http://earthquaketrack.com/quakes/2016- ... tc-5-6-242

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 13 Jan 2016 03:21

nirav wrote:
Jhujar wrote:Pakistan part of Saudi-led counter-terror coalition: Sartaj
Janitorial Job Filled:Faithfool,Groomer of Arab Stool,Glad Tidding, Hazoor said Nauqri Manzoor

You are gifted, Jhjujar ji ..

Before Aziz announced the recent above announcement, his previous moment in lime-light...

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Jan 2016 05:03

Cartoonist Alok Nirantar’s take on the terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s reaction to India’s Pathankot dossier providing links of the Islamic Republic’s link to terrorism in India besides earlier dossiers on 26/11 etc.:

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Jan 2016 05:20

Afghan media outlet Tolo News quoting Sayed Kamal Sadat, Chief of Police of Afghanistan’s Balkh Province , says that the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Punjabi dominated military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan were involved in the attack on the India’s Herat Consulate

The Police Chief’s comment was quoted by Tolo News as being:

"We saw with our own eyes and I can say 99 percent that those attackers were from Pakistani military and used special tactics while conducting their operation," said Sadat.

"The attackers were military personnel. They were educated and well prepared and had intelligence. They fought us and only by Allah's grace were we able to control them and eliminate them,".

See here:

Pakistani Military Officers Behind Consulate Attack : Balkh Police Chief

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Jan 2016 08:37

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/ ... 225678.ece
"Pathankot Probe: Pakistan Seeks More Info; HM Rajnath Says Keep Faith"

NEW DELHI: As Pakistan asked for additional evidence like fingerprints and call intercepts, the Indian government remained tight-lipped on Tuesday about whether the India-Pakistan Foreign Secretary-level talks will be held on Friday as scheduled. Meanwhile, Home Minister Rajnath Singh said India had no reason to “distrust” Pakistan so early in their investigation into the terror attack on the Pathankot airbase.

With two days left till January 15, Pakistan has apparently asked India for fingerprints of the terrorists to match them against its national identity database. Islamabad will also seek voice samples for the audio clips provided by India of the calls made by the terrorists as well as access to eye-witnesses for questioning, with Punjab police officer Salwinder Singh being a top candidate. It is highly unlikely that India will accept this line — making it seem unlikely the talks will be held this week.

India had provided Pakistan with the phone numbers that the terrorists dialled before their attack on the base. But, Pakistan had pointed out that the sim cards were unregistered, so there were no accompanying documents which could be used to authenticate who the user was at the time of activation.

On Sunday, Pakistan conducted raids at three places in its Punjab province and made multiple arrests, even though details have still to be made public. One of the places raided was in Bahwalpur, which is the hometown of Jaish-e-Mohammed’s Maulana Masood Azhar who Indian agencies have said masterminded the attack

After a phone conversation with his Pakistani counterpart Nasir Janjua, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval had given “specific and actionable leads” to Pakistan on January 5 — after the anti-terrorist operation officially ended. Following that, the NSAs have been in touch, asserted sources, adding this opening of a new channel was a direct outcome of the Bangkok meeting. Pakistani sources have made it clear that if the foreign secretary-level talks are not held then this channel would be closed.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Jan 2016 08:45

Death toll in Tharparkar may run into hundreds

http://nation.com.pk/featured/12-Jan-20 ... o-hundreds

LAHORE – A senior aid worker working in Tharparkar district has told The Nation that the death toll of new born children dying due to diarrhea, pneumonia and malnutrition may run into hundreds as most cases have not been reported.Muhammad Khalid Saif, office bearer of a religious charity related to Jamaatud Dawa spoke to The Nation from the district headquarters Mithi. “In most cases the people do not take their children to hospitals and depend on traditional medicines or are not able to reach there in time,” Saif explained. The charity for which he works for is leading among the NGOs active in providing relief to the people in affected area.“Thar desert is different from the rest in the world. In other deserts there are no habitations for miles but this one has a village every 10 kilometre. The villages can be small remote settlements of 20 to 30 houses or could there be 200 to 300 houses. It is a famine like situation as the promised wheat supply at subsidized rates has not been provided. There has been no rainfall and due to that there have been no crops of barley and gawar (vegetable) this year.“The fodder for cattle is also scarce. Therefore, the whole lifestyle of the people has been disturbed. The new born children are dying because they are too small to survive. I have seen children that weighed only one kg or 1.5kg. This is happening because the mothers are malnourished. They live in small settlements where there are no health facilities available,” Khalid said.He was of the view that Tharparkar was one of the most underdeveloped districts of Pakistan. “There are hardly any roads and you have to move around in jeeps, which the local people cannot. Transportation is not available. There is no mobile phone service and in most areas do not have electricity. Malnourished new born children do not get the chance to have medical treatment near their homes where they are born,” the aid worker said.He said there was urgent need for food supplies in the district especially in the remote villages where transport facilities are not available.The aid worker said there was need to create awareness among the masses. “The average number of family members is 10 to 12. In Panilo village of Lund Baloch caste I met a old man whose wife was holding him. He was father of 21 children from one wife. So one can imagine the situation,” he said. .

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Jan 2016 08:58

Time for more IEDs!
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/13-Jan-2016/50-000-*****-websites-blocked

ISLAMABAD: The government on Tuesday informed the Supreme Court that more than 50,000 p-rn-graphic websites, 10,000 containing blasphemous content and at least 6,000 pages on social media carrying caricatures and 10 thousand proxies have been blocked.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 13 Jan 2016 09:00

^^ Tharpakar has a large population of Hindus and they are the ones that suffer from maximum malnutrition. No wonder Pakis give a damn as to what happens to Tharpakar populace.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Jan 2016 09:26

Kashi wrote:^^ Tharpakar has a large population of Hindus and they are the ones that suffer from maximum malnutrition. No wonder Pakis give a damn as to what happens to Tharpakar populace.

Paki are sending JUD terrorists there. They are trying to convert them , creating artificial crisis after crisis.

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Jan 2016 11:14

Amber G. wrote:
Falijee wrote:Pakistan is also victim of terrorism, says Indian minister
As famous saying goes, a murderer who killed his own parents is also an orphan.

Demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan at Quetta in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan kills 15.

Having sown the wind of Mohammadden Terrorism in an attempt to intimidate India and other neighbouring countries, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan reaps the whirlwind of Terrorism and to boot gets the opportunity to claim victimhood while proving our Union Food and Consumer Affairs Minister and Supremo of Lok Janshakti Party, Ram Vilas Paswan, right:

Blast near Pakistan polio vaccination centre in Quetta kills at least 15

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Jan 2016 13:46

Incidents like Pathankot will keep happening: Musharraf - DT

Former president Pervez Musharraf has asked India not to overreact to Pathankot IAF base terror attack, as such incidents would keep happening in the future due to the prevalence of terrorism in Pakistan and India, reported by the India Today.

In an interview to a private TV channel, he said that both India and Pakistan and India were victims of extremism and that incidents like Pathankot will keep happening.

“Terrorism is prevalent in both India and Pakistan. We are also victims of the same so we should not over react to what happened in Pathankot. Yes, of course we want to control such incidents, but one should not get hyper over such incidents,” he said. {He is basically saying we will do this, do what you can}

Accusing India of creating pressure on Pakistan when it came to terror attacks, he said, “India's first reaction to every terrorist attack is Pakistan but India is not free of terrorism or extremism themselves. India simply can't create pressure on Pakistan when it comes to terrorism. We may be a small country but we have honour of our own.”

“India always treats terrorism as a one-sided issue and that infuriates me. They can't just bulldoze us when something happens there,” he said, stating that there are lots of areas in India where extremism is rampant.

Ahead of January 15 the foreign secretary level talks in Islamabad, India has mounted pressure on Pakistan to take action against the perpetrators of Pathankot attack. New Delhi has said that talks will depend upon Islamabad's ‘prompt and decisive’ action for which it has provided ‘actionable intelligence’.

Comparing Prime Minister Narendra Modi's leadership with that of his former counterpart Atal Bihari Vajpayee, he said that ties between Pakistan and India had ‘flourished under the latter as he was more sincere in his approach’.

“I interacted with Vajpayee sahab and at the time we had very good ties with India. It all comes down to leadership in the end. We were moving forward with him and Manmohan sahab. Unfortunately, it's not working under the leadership of Prime Minister Modi. His popularity has dampened post his loss in Delhi and Bihar,” Musharraf said.

“Vajapayee and Manmohan were more sincere when it came to resolving dispute. A good leader is always flexible. Things can't work out if you are hell-bent on your own stand,” he added. He also said that there was a lot of disgruntlement among the Muslim community in India since Modi came to power.

“It was just a case of ‘showmanship’ and there was nothing substantial about his visit,” the former president said, on Modi's surprise visit to Lahore last month.

Nitesh · Post by **Nitesh** » 13 Jan 2016 14:31

http://www.dawn.com/news/1232674/provin ... asin-malik

Pakis trying to gobble up GB. Why GoI is not responding to such move?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Jan 2016 15:20

Nitesh, the government would not keep quiet. But, the trouble is for far, far too long after GB was annexed by Pakistan through British fraud, we kept quiet. We concentrated on the Valley and practically forgot about GB. That is a problem.

Nitesh · Post by **Nitesh** » 13 Jan 2016 15:26

Sir ji, isn't we have a parliament resolution that the whole J&K is ours? This silence is not good.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 13 Jan 2016 15:46

Pathankot attack: Pakistan arrests Jaish-e-Mohammad leaders, seals offices

PTI | Jan 13, 2016, 04.42 PM IST

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Wednesday detained "several individuals" belonging to JeM, which is suspected to have engineered the Pathankot terror attack, and sealed its offices after India linked Islamabad's "prompt and decisive" action to the fate of foreign secretary-level talks scheduled on Friday.

Pakistan is also considering sending a special investigation team to Pathankot as more information would be required to carry forward the process of cooperation with India.

The Pakistani action, which was reviewed at a high-level meeting chaired by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, come as the fate of the FS-level talks hung in balance with just two days for foreign secretary S Jaishankar to go to Islamabad for talks with his counterpart on resuming the bilateral dialogue process.

Terrorists belonging to the dreaded Jaish-e-Mohammad, headed by Maulana Masood Azhar of Kandahar hijack episode, is believed by India to be behind the Pathankot terror attack in which seven security personnel were killed.

A PMO statement issued after the meeting today said it noted with satisfaction that as part of Pakistan's commitment to eliminate terrorism from its soil and the expressed national resolve not to allow the territory to be used for acts of terrorism anywhere.

It said "considerable progress has been made in the investigations being carried out against terrorist elements reportedly linked to the Pathankot incident.

"Based on initial investigations in Pakistan, and the information provided, several individuals belonging to Jaish-e-Mohammad have been apprehended. The offices of the organisation are also being traced and sealed. Further investigations are underway," the statement said.

In the spirit of the cooperative approach, the statement said, it was also decided that in order to carry the process forward, additional information would be required for which the government of Pakistan is considering sending a SIT to Pathankot in consultation with government of India.

"The meeting reiterated that in line with our decision to counter and completely eliminate terrorism, Pakistan would remain engaged with India on this issue," the statement said.

Army chief Gen Raheel Sharif, director-general ISI Lt Gen Rizwan Akhtar, interior minister Nisar Ali Khan, finance minister Ishaq Dar, adviser on foreign affairs Sartaj Aziz, Punjab chief minister Shahbaz Sharif and other senior officials attended the meeting.

Last week India put the ball squarely in Pakistan's court, linking the FS-level talks to Islamabad's "prompt and decisive" action in the Pathankot terror attack for which it has provided "actionable intelligence".

An official said that close to a dozen militants have been held so far and were being questioned.

He refused to give further information like where they have been held or when they could be produced before any court.

In the terror attack on Pathankot Air Force base that began on January 2, six militants were also eliminated in an operation that lasted four days.

Nitesh · Post by **Nitesh** » 13 Jan 2016 15:49

Basically pakis have taken them under state protection

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Jan 2016 15:56

“Intelligence Bureau’s special team investigating Pathankot attack”

SLAMABAD (Staff Report) – A special team of Intelligence Bureau (IB) is investigating the Pakistani connection with the terrorist attack on India’s Pathankot airbase as New Delhi’s pressure on Islamabad to take action against the preparators of attack is mounting everyday, sources privy to information said.
The team is working in coordination with other superior investigation agencies like Federal Investigation Agency (FIA), Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Counter Terrorism Department (CTD) while a proposal of establishment of Joint Investigation Team (JIT) is also under consideration.
The directions of formation of special team were issued to IB after Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif chaired a meeting of his advisers Sartaj Aziz and Nasir Janjua; federal ministers Ishaq Dar and Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan; and Foreign secretary Aizaz Chaudhry.
The IB was instructed to look into the evidences provided by Indian government in connection with Pathankot airbase attack after New Delhi hinted at cancellation of January 15 meeting of foreign secretaries of two countries if Islamabad fails to move on terrorist attack probe.

(remains to be seen whether Pakis are serious in this regard )

... it was also decided that New Delhi will be asked to provide more information as the previously given evidences were not enough,” reliable sources told Daily Pakistan Global. The leadership concluded that scheduled meeting of foreign secretaries of Pakistan and India will be held at any cost.

The sources said that Indian side is continuously pushing Pakistan to take some steps to prove its seriousness towards bilateral cooperation against terrorists.

Meanwhile Washington is also pressing the two countries to continue bilateral dialogue on all outstanding issues including the recent attack on Indian airbase in Pathankot.
Earlier this day an Indian newspaper published a report which said that secretary-level dialogue with Pakistan were cancelled and that New Delhi will talk to Islamabad only when the action against Pathankot airbase attackers will be taken.
The report quoted Ajit Doval as saying that meeting was scheduled on January 15 in Lahore however we have called off the meeting which was expected to lay down a road map of resumption of comprehensive dialogue.
However talking to an Indian TV channel via telephone, Doval said that he never said anything like this in interview with the newspaper. He said there was no such official or unofficial announcement about the scheduled meeting of foreign secretaries.
“I strongly deny the information published in the newspaper after my name,” he went on to say.
New Delhi wants Pakistan to quickly move on the leads provided by Indian intelligence agencies which confirm the link between Pakistan and Pathankot attackers, he said.

Good policy to keep the Pakis guessing until the last minute

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Jan 2016 17:04

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html
"IS in Afghanistan claim Pakistan consulate attack, 7 killed"

KABUL, Afghanistan — The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for an attack on a Pakistani consulate in eastern Afghanistan on Wednesday, which Afghan officials said left at least seven members of the security forces dead.

In a statement translated by the SITE Intelligence Group, U.S. monitors of militant groups, the “Khorasan Province of the Islamic State” said three of its “soldiers” attacked the consulate in Jalalabad, capital of the volatile province of Nangarhar, which borders Pakistan. It claimed to have killed “dozens” of consulate staff.

Afghan officials said seven members of the security forces were killed in the attack.

Attaullah Khyogani, spokesman for the governor of Nangarhar province, said another seven people were injured during the attack, which began when a suicide bomber detonated explosives outside the consulate in the provincial capital Jalalabad and ended with a gun battle between Afghan security forces and militants.

He said that three attackers were killed, including the one who had detonated explosives on his body at around 9 a.m.

The siege ended when the two gunmen, who had taken position in a guesthouse close to the consulate, were killed at around 12.30 p.m. local time, Khyogani said.

It was the first insurgent-style attack on a Pakistan embassy or consulate in Afghanistan, an official at the Pakistani embassy said, speaking on condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 13 Jan 2016 17:50

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 564016.cms
"Madarc$$0d Azhar checks in for some R & R. Maybe even father a child"
New Delhi - Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Maulana Masood Azhar and several of his close associates have been detained, according to Pakistani media reports.

-M

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 13 Jan 2016 21:04

Hmm
One wonders how C Fair knows that India is unprepared to militarily retaliate against Pakistan?
She is just blowing hot air from her musharraf.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 13 Jan 2016 21:26

'India is unprepared to militarily retaliate against Pakistan' is becoming like a new mantra behind which we can hide.

member_23692 · Post by **member_23692** » 13 Jan 2016 21:26

Gagan wrote:Hmm
One wonders how C Fair knows that India is unprepared to militarily retaliate against Pakistan?
She is just blowing hot air from her musharraf.

Normally, Christine Fair does blow hot air from her Musharraf, but this time she happens to be right (even a complete blithering idiot can be right some times), because it is commonly known that India is unprepared to militarily retaliate against Pakistan. Not only that, India is totally unprepared to even launch a minimally punitive action against Paki.

This is further evidenced by the fact that someone as hardline as Modi has had to adopt a dovish approach towards Paki, almost a submissive attitude. If India was militarily prepared, why would someone like Modi act more like a supplicant to Paki ? Modi even let it be known to Pakis that if they merely even take some Jaish figures in "protective custody", as someone aptly described the arrest of these figures in Paki today, in the aftermath of Pathankot, that Modi will declare victory and not call off any talks. Unless Modi has completely gone bonkers or he is having to act in this submissive manner because he realizes that India has no military options against Paki, not even limited punitive ones and does not have any prospects of developing those options in the near future, because the current state of India's military preparedness is so far gone.

member_23692 · Post by **member_23692** » 13 Jan 2016 21:31

VikasRaina wrote:'India is unprepared to militarily retaliate against Pakistan' is becoming like a new mantra behind which we can hide.

Better to "hide" behind something real, rather than something totally invented and fabricated, like, "US or Massa pressure on India to not retaliate against Paki", or "Uncle pressuring us to continue talks", sort of nonsense.

And I say this as someone who is not a fan of the US.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Jan 2016 21:38

There is a faction in US circles that wants India to clean their mess. This will expand ME mess into Af-Pak.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 13 Jan 2016 21:52

Yes big time!
They wanted Vajpaee to deploy in Afghanistan and take a lot of the heat off the US forces. So this is not new or a fringe viewpoint.
I personally think that India should not involve itself or initiate all out war. I don't like the thought of someone shooting up a retired general jumma prayer a few weeks down the line. I don't like covert action, because then the message doesn't percolate down to everyone.
But short of all out war, an overt strike that shames these guys well is what is really needed.
Their fauj's impotence must be easily visible.
Something like a brahmos salvo or an attack helo type strike like the US did at the salala checkpost is what is needed.

Pakistan says that these are non state actors right? If they claim that they can't open another front on their own, then I suppose it should be ok for India to open that front and wipe out the JEM Markaz SW from Bahawalpur.
Or an SSG camp and say we thought it was bad terrorists training, and refuse to express any regret.

The problem with all out war is that in the Pakistani moonscape, there are not that many high value economic targets to threaten to light up

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 13 Jan 2016 22:12

Is Bahawalpur within Smerch range

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 13 Jan 2016 22:14

rsangram wrote:
Gagan wrote:Hmm
One wonders how C Fair knows that India is unprepared to militarily retaliate against Pakistan?
She is just blowing hot air from her musharraf.
Normally, Christine Fair does blow hot air from her Musharraf, but this time she happens to be right (even a complete blithering idiot can be right some times), because it is commonly known that India is unprepared to militarily retaliate against Pakistan. Not only that, India is totally unprepared to even launch a minimally punitive action against Paki.

Indian Army is more prepared to fight and prevail in an all out combined arms conventional/nuclear war against the Paks. But it is virtually guaranteed that India will also suffer several thousand, perhaps tens of thousands of civil and military casualties in such a conflict, not to talk of the economic hit. Why should we risk so much in our (justified) anger against the Pakis? Even if justified, anger clouds judgement.

The choice then is to wait till:
(a) India enhances its capability so much, that we can guarantee that our losses will be minimal. E.g. the US invading Iraq.
(b) India enhances its capability to mount special forces and irregular forces sub-conventional attacks.

While (a) will take a lot of time and a lot of money, perhaps 30+ years, (b) is much more achievable in the time frames and the money that an Indian govt. has, but there is no consensus about this approach in Indian policy circles. (See the nautanki around the TSD). We must focus our efforts to get option (b) more mindshare and have faith that if that is the only feasible option, it shall be taken.

limited punitive ones and does not have any prospects of developing those options in the near future, because the current state of India's military preparedness is so far gone.

A conventional limited strike does not make any sense without contingency planning for escalation of that strike. If you use a sword to scratch someone, we should also be prepared to lop off appendages if the fight escalates and also have a shield with which to defend ourselves from the thrusts of the opponent.

On the flip side, if we use our sword to scratch someone, without being prepared to kill that person, or without having a shield, that is just irresponsible.

RajeshG · Post by **RajeshG** » 13 Jan 2016 22:19

I really feel lucky I don't have to make these choices. But something tells me that this time its different... I don't want to bring out chankian theories but it does seem a bit different.

PS: A brahmos doesn't have to fly and hit.. What if there is a short-circuit at markaz ?? I think paki junta is prone to even crazier conspiracy theories then I can.. they will figure this out.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Jan 2016 22:20

Pathankot mastermind Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Masood Azhar detained: Pak media reports

Remains to be seen if reports can be confirmed
Remains to be seen, if this is just a ploy to not get India to cancel the talks; he is an important ISI asset; therefore, in the final analysis, it is doubtful that he will be put behind bars for good .

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 13 Jan 2016 22:23

rsangram, your posts come in thick and fast, only when shyte happens. And all of them are thinly veiled attempts at casting doubts on India's military capabilities vis-a-vis Pakistan. You are on watch, so easy on the sneaky posts

RajeshG · Post by **RajeshG** » 13 Jan 2016 22:28

I doubt if "talks" really matter. What the hell are we talking about anyway ? This has to be something bigger..

It could be that this masood dude has been put in protective custody. But then it makes him an even better prized target for short-circuits ..

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Jan 2016 22:51

Pak Army Strategy Behind Pathankot Attack Analyzed By Indian Newspaper
Pak GHQ targets PM Modi through terror attacks

Despite the denials coming out of Pakistan, experts in key frontline states against terror say that their preliminary investigations into the involvement of GHQ Rawalpindi, Pakistan in the 1 January 2016 terror attack on the Pathankot airbase “conclusively show” that the optimists who believed that the Pakistan army higher command supported Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s stated policy of detente with India, are “flat out wrong”. On the contrary, they say that the Pathankot attack is only the first in what will be a chain of incidents designed to discredit the India story to global investors, and domestically seek to trip Prime Minister Narendra Modi as a leader capable of ensuring the safety and security of India. “Unlike most Indian Prime Ministers, Modi has the will to exercise the option of conflict, and this has unnerved GHQ, which has been used to spineless leaders in the past”, a source based out of London said. A colleague added that “GHQ has received multiple inputs that the new government is not tied to the pacifist approach of its immediate predecessors, and this is worrying the generals”.

“Unlike what media reports portray, the Pathankot operation was not about destroying Indian Air Force assets, but about killing personnel, and thereby showing that security measures were ineffective”, a source based in the US claimed, adding that “the equipment given to the terrorists showed such an intent rather than a focus on the destruction of air assets”. Another expert warned that “several squads have infiltrated into India during the past four months through the narcotics-hawala channel”, and that those responsible for the Pathankot operation were only one of them

The outside sources were unanimous that Nawaz Sharif “is the weakest Prime Minister since M.K. Junejo...

No information has emerged from either Islamabad or Delhi about the specifics of the meeting in Bangkok between Pakistan National Security Advisor N.K. Janjua and his Indian counterpart Ajit Doval. A source in London, however, claimed that Janjua “assured Doval, PMO advisor Asif Ibrahim and Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar that the Pakistan army higher command was behind Nawaz Sharif and also that both the Sharifs (PM and Chief of Army Staff) were sincere in seeking peace with India”./quote] (Taqiya in action ?)
The experts spoken to said that Prime Minister Modi’s lightning decision to call upon Nawaz Sharif on his birthday was a “masterstroke”, in that “it removed any lingering impression that he (PM Modi) was a warmonger”.

Apart from GHQ’s assessment that Prime Minister Modi would “stop at nothing” where action against Pakistan-based terror groups was conceded, and, therefore, needed to be discredited in the public mind through terror attacks, “GHQ Rawalpindi was also gravely concerned about the diplomatic breakthrough achieved (by Modi) on the US front”, as well as the PM’s skill in “balancing relations with China and Russia”. Such successes resulted in the plan to “provoke a reaction early in the BJP regime, when Pakistan is better prepared to respond rather than later, when economic and diplomatic successes may further tilt the scales in favour of India”, an outside source claimed.
They claimed that General Raheel Sharif, the present Chief of Army Staff (COAS), is determined to “punish India” for the 1971 war, and to “win concessions on Kashmir that would go far beyond any offered by previous Prime Ministers of India”, and that he believed that “only terror would force the Indian side to seriously negotiate”, despite “public utterances to the contrary”.
And, according to other sources, "avenge" the death of his brother, an army officer, at the hands of the "kuffar" !
According to a US source, General Sharif is “as powerful as Musharraf was in his time”. He pointed out that the COAS had “visited Kabul multiple times in full military uniform and met Presdent Ashraf Ghani to demonstrate who controlled policy towards Afghanistan in Pakistan”. A London-based source said that “General Sharif was received with Cabinet-level honours in China, the US and even Russia”, pointing out that China had given the Pakistan side advanced Ju-17 aircraft, while Russia had broken with earlier policy and supplied MI 35 attack helicopters to Pakistan after General Sharif’s visit to Moscow. Another source said that the Pakistan side had made a careful study of the Indian response to the Pathankot attack, and pointed out that on the five recent occasions when military installations were attacked by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, the Pakistan army had cleared the area “within 6 to 19 hours”, in contrast to the Indian side, which took three days before an “all clear” was sounded at Pathankot
But then the Pak Army is also known to follow a "scorch earth policy" with devastating results on the civilian populations
Pathankot was just a “test run for a new template of operations against India”,( at present, this is the best possible explanation that makes sense) in their view, and the Indian security establishment needs to brace for more, “no matter what the diplomats from Islamabad or their apologists say”. After Punjab in the 1980s and Kashmir in the 1990s, GHQ is “fine-tuning a pan-Indian strategy involving local proxies” in their drive to ensure that India under PM Modi fails to reach its potential. Interestingly, other components of this strategy include ongoing efforts to discredit India globally as being a hotbed of fanaticism and intolerance, and as a country where minorities, women and the underprivileged are not safe.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Jan 2016 23:03

sudeepj wrote: Why should we risk so much in our (justified) anger against the Pakis? Even if justified, anger clouds judgement.

+1008.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 14 Jan 2016 00:06

Bahawalpur is ~ 105 Kms from the rajasthan border. JeM's markaz is right on the highway.
I'll post its location later today

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 14 Jan 2016 00:13

Pakistan is sinking.
Retaliation must be such as to accelerate that process. They are intelligent enough to understand what they've done.
This cocking a snoot at India can only go so far. At the end of the day, they are still desperately poor, divided and getting kicked around by everyone.
Their military can just not handle attacks on their strategic sites. They lack technology, so they are under pressure to complete an operation ASAP. Allah only knows how many more innocents they kill on the way. They deal with an attack on the fauj as an attack on the H&D of fauj, and Pakistan, and Qaied e duh.

The shoe will be on the othe foot soon. Lets see how they enjoy it

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 14 Jan 2016 00:36

ramana wrote:There is a faction in US circles that wants India to clean their mess. This will expand ME mess into Af-Pak.

If Taliban and other Jihadi groups are the infection, then IS is the necrotic tissue.

Pakistan needs more purity. This is the only way to light the fire under the bottoms of all these non-punjabi and shia types.

nirav · Post by **nirav** » 14 Jan 2016 01:14

Aditya_V wrote:Is Bahawalpur within Smerch range

We need capability to strike and disrupt the 46 dawlar billion project that will eventually pass from PoK.

Also, since Paki deep state wont learn and keep formenting terror attacks in India, a Tehrik e Taliban Xinjiang is needed. TTX or heck even TTC.

Need to hurt teh haramis where it hurts the most (feeble attempt to get their economy in shape) to bring them to their knees and eventually to the table.

We must be very pissful till atleast the 46 billions are spent. and the debt incurred by napak land.

Need to make it very clear, IF India doesnt get Afghan Transit, China doesnt get Paki Transit.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 14 Jan 2016 02:33

Cwasposted on the Cwapistani Economic Stwess Watch Thwead

Cwapistani ‘Currency’s overvaluation keeping Cwapistani exports down’

According to Former finance minister of Cwapistan and senior economist Dr. Hafeez Pasha, depreciation of Pakistani rupee is important to increase exports to the leading markets of the world

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