Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2016

The Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum is a venue to discuss issues pertaining to India's security environment, her strategic outlook on global affairs and as well as the effect of international relations in the Indian Subcontinent. We request members to kindly stay within the mandate of this forum and keep their exchanges of views, on a civilised level, however vehemently any disagreement may be felt. All feedback regarding forum usage may be sent to the moderators using the Feedback Form or by clicking the Report Post Icon in any objectionable post for proper action. Please note that the views expressed by the Members and Moderators on these discussion boards are that of the individuals only and do not reflect the official policy or view of the Bharat-Rakshak.com Website. Copyright Violation is strictly prohibited and may result in revocation of your posting rights - please read the FAQ for full details. Users must also abide by the Forum Guidelines at all times.
Gagan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 11242
Joined: 16 Apr 2008 22:25

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Gagan »

They should amputate the part above the gangrenous leg...
Karthik S
BRF Oldie
Posts: 5381
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 12:12

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Karthik S »

He is "dying of old age", nothing to rejoice. Wish he faced the Indian law ,in the lines of mossad law.
member_23370
BRFite
Posts: 1103
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by member_23370 »

Exactly..Should still take him out as an example to others.
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

We will continue to work with Afghan govt to stamp out terrorism scourge: PM Nawaz :roll:

(1) Ganja is either smoking charas or dead scropions !

or
(2) Ganja is "out" of the decision making loop

or

(3) Just being nice !
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

Pak envoy Abdul Basit meets separatist Aasiya Andrabi :evil:
Mr Basit is widely seen as a nominee of the Pakistan Army and a hardliner, albeit soft-spoken, which is significant, given the troubled ties between the civilian government in Pakistan and the military establishment there.
Sources said that the meeting between Ms Andrabi and Mr Basit was scheduled after both sides took the initiative on the matter, amid indications that the Pakistan high commissioner may meet more Kashmiri separatist leaders over the next few days.
How would the Paki Govt react if Baloch leaders are invited by the IHC in Islamabad ; this "soft spoken nominee of the Paki Army" should be given the silent treatment by all segments of Indian society and should not be given a platform to air his propaganda !
Last edited by SSridhar on 26 Apr 2016 07:19, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Removed unnecessary colour tags
Gagan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 11242
Joined: 16 Apr 2008 22:25

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Gagan »

Falijee wrote:We will continue to work with Afghan govt to stamp out terrorism scourge: PM Nawaz :roll:

(1) Ganja is either smoking charas or dead scropions !

or
(2) Ganja is "out" of the decision making loop

or

(3) Just being nice !
Me thinks Ganja is playing his part
In pakistan, the fauj and its ISI is supposed to conduct cross border terrorism, embezzle funds indefence deals, do corruption in land deals a-la land mafia, downhill ski when the Indian Army threatens them and then conduct a coup.
The bleddy civilians are supposed to deflect the fallback from the fauj's haramigiri, in return the fauj will let them do some chota-mota corruption and survive in general.
So...
member_23370
BRFite
Posts: 1103
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by member_23370 »

India should up the contacts with Baloch and GB exiles and freedom fighters.
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

»
Dawood Ibrahim suffering from gangrene, might lose legs: Report
Dawood Ibrahim, India’s most wanted fugitive is suffering from 'life-threatening' gangrene, a media report said.
Doctors in Pakistan, treating Dawood said that the condition of his gangrene is at such an advanced stage, that he is immobile, and soon they will have no option but to amputate his legs, CNN-News18 reported.
According to doctors, the kind of gangrene that Dawood suffering from is life-threatening and a considerable amount of the body tissue in his legs are already dead.
The report said gangrene was caused by loss of effective local blood supply due to high blood pressure and blood sugar.
Dawood, the man who was responsible for the 1993 Bombay blasts which left 257 people dead, has been receiving treatment at his posh residence in the upscale Clifton neighborhood of Karachi and being treated by doctors at the Liaquat National Hospital and the Combined Military Hospital.
The report also claimed that Dawood, who is in the protection of ISI will not be moved out of Karachi. It was decided in a high level meeting that Army doctors will take the lead in the treatment and support will be given to him in Karachi itself.
Will he be air-lifted to the Amreeki Hospital in Dubai for "special treatment" like OBL ? :mrgreen:
Last edited by SSridhar on 26 Apr 2016 07:20, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: Removed unnecessary colour tags
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

India's Pakistan policy runs into China's Great Wall
ndia seems to have run into the Great China Wall in its diplomatic attempts to talk China out of backing its all-weather friend Pakistan on the terror issue. Indications are that China will continue to rebuff India every now and then on matters pertaining to Pakistan.
This is a worrying sign for Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government which will complete two years in office on May 26.
The Chinese have heard strong pitches made by two key Indian ministers on New Delhi's reservations about the Chinese policy of bailing out Pakistan on the issue of terror before world bodies like the United Nations, but have not held out any assurances to the Indians, thus giving important signals that this Chinese policy would continue.
Two Cabinet ministers have taken up with China in the past three days the issue of the Chinese 'hidden veto' before the United Nations Sanctions Committee in blocking the Indian move seeking action against Pakistan-based terrorist Masood Azhar.
Another important Indian official, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval, who is in China and has just held the 19th round of Special Representatives-level talks with his Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi, is inevitably set to discuss the Azhar issue with his Chinese interlocutors even more substantively even though official versions may downplay it.
Doval is also scheduled to have a strategic dialogue with his Chinese interlocutors as he is visiting China not merely as SR, but in a much more exalted position as Prime Minister Modi's special envoy.
hus, the bottomline of China's foreign policy in specific context of India and Pakistan is this: The Great Wall of China seems insurmountable for the Indians.
These are the signals emanating from China for the Modi government. It should be made clear that these are merely straws in the winds, not an officially articulated policy of China with respect to the India-Pakistan conundrum.
The India-Pakistan-China triangle is predicated on India's relations with the West, particularly the United States. The more the Modi government pushes India closer to the American camp, the more backlash it will have from China.
The Modi government is lucky that the Chinese have not launched any major incursion for the last one-and-a-half years. But the Chinese may not extend this concession for long.
ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 59810
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by ramana »

Above is bakwas article on the "Blow to Modi" theme.

What kind of an Anal sis is this?
ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 59810
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by ramana »

Falijee wrote:» Dawood Ibrahim suffering from gangrene, might lose legs: Report
Dawood Ibrahim suffering from gangrene, might lose legs: Report
Dawood Ibrahim, India’s most wanted fugitive is suffering from 'life-threatening' gangrene, a media report said.
Doctors in Pakistan, treating Dawood said that the condition of his gangrene is at such an advanced stage, that he is immobile, and soon they will have no option but to amputate his legs, CNN-News18 reported.
According to doctors, the kind of gangrene that Dawood suffering from is life-threatening and a considerable amount of the body tissue in his legs are already dead.
The report said gangrene was caused by loss of effective local blood supply due to high blood pressure and blood sugar.
Dawood, the man who was responsible for the 1993 Bombay blasts which left 257 people dead, has been receiving treatment at his posh residence in the upscale Clifton neighborhood of Karachi and being treated by doctors at the Liaquat National Hospital and the Combined Military Hospital.
The report also claimed that Dawood, who is in the protection of ISI will not be moved out of Karachi. It was decided in a high level meeting that Army doctors will take the lead in the treatment and support will be given to him in Karachi itself.
Will he be air-lifted to the Amreeki Hospital in Dubai for "special treatment" like OBL ? :mrgreen:
Its very proper that Dawood Ibrahim gets treated by Pak Army doctors.

They are experts at cutting off legs of the wounded soldiers!!!!
Or higher.
Reminds me of the Korean doctor in the movies "One flew over the Cuckoo's nest"!
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

Afghan President Demands Pakistan Take Military Action Against Taliban- N.Y. Times
KABUL, Afghanistan — After courting Pakistan for more than a year, President Ashraf Ghani of Afghanistan changed course on Monday and warned that he would lodge a complaint with the United Nations Security Council if Pakistan refuses to take military action against Taliban leaders ( I think that Ghani should coordinate his efforts with India ) operating from its soil to wage an increasingly deadly insurgency across Afghanistan.
“I want to make it clear that we do not expect Pakistan to bring the Taliban to talks,” Mr. Ghani said Monday in a rare joint session of the two houses of the Afghan Parliament. “If we do not see a change, despite our hopes and efforts for regional cooperation, we will be forced to turn to the U.N. Security Council and launch serious diplomatic efforts.”
Despite promises from Pakistan to bring Taliban leaders to talks in the hopes of ending the long conflict, the peace efforts seem to have gone nowhere. The insurgency has begun another spring offensive, which promises to be bloodier than in years past.
The Taliban were quick to respond; a spokesman posted messages on Twitter during Mr. Ghani’s address.
“The nation is not blind — it realizes who is a slave, and who is a hireling,” said Zabihullah Mujahid, the Taliban spokesman, posting a picture of senior government officials listening to the former commander of NATO and United States forces in Afghanistan, Gen. John F. Campbell. “We will continue fighting until the occupation is ended.”
Pakistan has come out of a long-held denial about Taliban sanctuaries on its soil, both in private discussions as well as in public.
Satraj Aziz, the adviser on foreign policy to Pakistan’s prime minister, said last month that his country had influence over the Taliban, but not control. Statement blatantly false ! If there was "no control" , then Mullah Omar's death should not have come as a surprise !
Haroun Mir, a political analyst based in Kabul, said he did not see Afghanistan capable of rallying the kind of international pressure to isolate Pakistan, which has displayed more skill at dealing with such pressures in the past.
No mention that the US has out-sourced its Afghan policy to Pakistan to ensure a "smooth withdrawal" of their troops and equipment (much will be "gifted" to Pakistan anyway )
Last edited by SSridhar on 26 Apr 2016 07:21, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Removed unnecessary colour tags
Vivasvat
BRFite
Posts: 346
Joined: 11 May 2005 08:03

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Vivasvat »

DISTURBING REALITY: MUSLIM 'SEX-GROOMING GANGS'
In Britain, they call it “sex grooming.”

In the Netherlands, they’re called “Lover Boys.”

But the phenomenon is the same. A gang of Muslim “Asians” of mostly Pakistani descent seeks out, pursues, chats up and cultivates school girls for sex, turning them into bodies for sale.
Gagan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 11242
Joined: 16 Apr 2008 22:25

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Gagan »

Dawood's leg gang-e-rene sounds surprisingly similar to OBL kid-e-ney problems.
Only allah and ISI really really know what all went on.
Seems to be that an alias is being created for Dawood to be declared 72 ed, while he cools his now amputated heels in an OBLesque ISI safehouse.

One hears that the Sindhis & the Baloch have joined hands together
shiv
BRF Oldie
Posts: 34982
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: Pindliyon ka Gooda

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by shiv »

Gagan wrote:Dawood's leg gang-e-rene sounds surprisingly similar to OBL kid-e-ney problems.
Only allah and ISI really really know what all went on.
Seems to be that an alias is being created for Dawood to be declared 72 ed, while he cools his now amputated heels in an OBLesque ISI safehouse.

One hears that the Sindhis & the Baloch have joined hands together
+1

They may fake his death to hide him and give him a new identity
Kashi
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3671
Joined: 06 May 2011 13:53

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Kashi »

shiv wrote:+1
They may fake his death to hide him and give him a new identity
What purpose will that serve? It's not that there's overwhelming pressure on the Pakis to wash their hands off him.
Gagan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 11242
Joined: 16 Apr 2008 22:25

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Gagan »

D company has been proscribed in terror finance too.
It is possible they were somehow involved in 9/11
Ombaba is wanting to release the missing pages of the 9/11 report. Maybe there is some corelation here.

Maybe the ISI is afraid, Ajit Doval might take the guy out in a raid like OBL and bring some unwanted attention to the ISI terror pasand ways. Personally I think that the Pak fauj is beyond shame as far as terrorism goes!
Aditya_V
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14362
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 16:25

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Aditya_V »

If India gets him, it will be a hugee H&D loss and Aam Jihadi will get too scared.
shiv
BRF Oldie
Posts: 34982
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: Pindliyon ka Gooda

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by shiv »

Kashi wrote:
shiv wrote:+1
They may fake his death to hide him and give him a new identity
What purpose will that serve? It's not that there's overwhelming pressure on the Pakis to wash their hands off him.
You mean Pakis think that it would be easier for them to lose Dawood to "natural death"? I doubt it. Having protected him all these years when they could have bumped him off any time, why declare his presence and show they are looking after him. They have been denying his existence all this time and no one would have missed him if they had bumped him off if he was inconsequential. More likely Paki army money is tied up with his business interests.

Problem is I think various Intel agencies are behind him and things are getting hotter now.
Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2016

Post by Peregrine »

PTI councilor Baldev Kumar held over Sardar Sooran Singh’s assassination

SWAT (Web Desk) – PTI’s district councilor Baldev Kumar has been arrested in connection with the assassination of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Minorities minister Sardar Sooran Singh, DIG Malakand said on Sunday.

Kumar was arrested from Bari Kot tehsil of Swat and was shifted to an undisclosed location for further investigation, according to the DIG.

Gunmen on motorbikes had stopped Sardar Soran Singh’s car in Buner district, some 160 kilometres (100 miles) of Peshawar, on Friday (April 22) evening and opened fire, killing him on the spot.

Chief Minister Pervez Khattak, KP Assembly Speaker Asad Qaisar, ministers and people from all walks of life had attended the last rites of Mr Singh in his ancestral village.

Mr Khattak also visited the residence of Mr Singh where he offered his condolences to the bereaved family and elders of the Sikh community.

Imran Khan, whose Pakistan-Tehreek Insaf (PTI) party rules the KP province, urged his government to set up an inquiry commission.

Soran Singh belonged to the Sikh community and joined Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf in 2011 after being associated with Jamaat-i-Islami. He held one of several seats reserved for religious minorities in the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa provincial assembly.

Comments : I can understand some Sikhs are "Braving Out" in Cwapistan as they are "Gurudwara Rakshaks". Also some of them have been used by the Cwapistanis for the "Khalistan" Opertion . One cannot really understand why the Hindus are staying back in Cwapistan. Grateful fellow B-RFites inputs.

Cheers Image
SSridhar
Forum Moderator
Posts: 25101
Joined: 05 May 2001 11:31
Location: Chennai

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by SSridhar »

We are in no position, at this point in time, to comment on this development.

But, I won't be surprised if the Deep State decided to use one against another in their 'overall' policy of managing Dharmic minorities.
Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2016

Post by Peregrine »

Dawood Ibrahim doesn't have gangrene, says his deputy Chhota Shakeel

NEW DELHI: In the wake of reports that underworld don Dawood Ibrahim has been diagnosed with gangrene in his legs which had left him immobile, senior intelligence officials and Dawood's deputy Chhota Shakeel confirmed to TOI on Monday that the gangster is "fit".

Claiming that these rumours were being floated to hinder the D-company's business interests, Shakeel said, "Aapki agencies ke pass galat khabar hai. Ye sab rumours hain. Bhai bilkul fit hain. Sehatmand hain (Your agencies have wrong information. Dawood is perfectly fit)," he said.

Sources said the reports arose after a few doctors were spotted in Karachi's Cliffton area, Dawood's purported residence, and they were contemplating to amputate the don's legs as the gangrene, and poison there, was spreading quickly.

These doctors belong to Liaquat National Hospital and Combined Military Hospital. The cause of gangrene has been attributed to loss of blood supply due to high blood pressure and blood sugar.

According to inputs, Dawood, though confined mostly to his two to three safe houses in Karachi (White House, Clifton; House No. 37, 30th Street, Defence Housing Authority; and the bungalow in Noorabad area) continues to actively pursue his business interests . He is now focussing on his new venture of dealing in conflict diamonds, as reported first by TOI last year.
Cheers Image
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

Pakis Being Cautioned Against Unhygienic Food
Strange Facts you Never Knew about Unhygienic Food in Pakistan
Opting for low-standard food items is a common dilemma in our country. On every other street you will find a sub-standard shop or Rehrri-wala selling unhealthy and unhygienic eatables. Even bigger dilemma is that majority of our population is not aware how harmful these substandard items can be for health.
Most of the people prefer economy over quality.
What can you expect where the "in name PM" himself is a certified food addict !
Since our childhood, we had been considering big restaurant names highly immaculate and trustworthy with regards to food quality. This perception was amply blown away by Director of Operations at Punjab Food Authority Ayesha Mumtaz, also known as Dabang Lady. She caught people selling donkey’s meat and rat mince!
I read about donkey meat masquerading as halal beef, but rat mince is new ![/color]
Did you know? An average Pakistani spends 41.4% of their income on Food. ( as compared to 29% for India )[/color]
Going to eateries with family and friends is a favorite activity in our culture.
But, there are all the possibilities that the very next meal you have outside will contain donkey’s or rat’s meat or you may be eating a chicken which was ill and dead long before it was slaughtered.[/quote :lol: ] But will it be slaughtered the "halal" way ?
Table of Contents
1 Thumb Rule
2 Suspicious Foods to Avoid
3 Read this if you Like Shawarma and Paratha Roll
4 Snacks are the Worst Foods
5 About Bakery Items
6 Conclusion
Basic facts for the Aam Abduls - with a copy sent to the PM !
Conclusion
We are living in a society where the lust of making profit is so strong that people will resort to all possible heinous means. From making us eat donkeys and rats to swallowing expired items, everything is possible. It is our personal responsibility to remain careful and keep ourselves and our families safe.
Must share this post with yourfamily and friends. PM ( he is known to accept food parcels of his favourite items by mail from his many admirers )It may help in bringing awareness in our society and your small contribution can save our nation from further derailing in this very important context.
Last edited by SSridhar on 26 Apr 2016 16:02, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Removed unnecessary colour tags
SSridhar
Forum Moderator
Posts: 25101
Joined: 05 May 2001 11:31
Location: Chennai

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by SSridhar »

Bomb threat: security enhanced at ancient temple - Sathish G.T., The Hindu
Following a terror threat to Sri Chennakeshava temple, a Hoysala structure, senior police officers met in Belur on Monday and etched out a plan to enhance security in the vicinity. The district police will deploy policemen at the temple from Tuesday, besides urging hotels, lodges and home-stays in and around Belur to be vigilant.

Superintendent of Police R.K. Shahapurwad held a meeting with representatives of the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI), and departments of Endowments and Revenue on the temple premises. This follows a recent communiqué from the Department of Internal Security to R. Vidyullatha, executive officer of the temple, that the site was on the hit-list of a terror group based in Pakistan. She wrote to the ASI and Hassan district administration seeking additional security for the temple. Mr. Shahapurwad said handheld metal detectors and door frame metal detectors would be used at the temple entrance in two days.

ASI’s efforts

The ASI, which protects the monuments, had earlier taken measures to depute DAR personnel and place metal detectors at the temple’s entrance. However, the arrangements were withdrawn a few years ago.
This is a fantastic temple with the usual mind-boggling Hoysala architecture, sculptures etc. I am sure that the jihadis can never make anything a fraction as wonderful as this but can destroy all nice things.
chetak
BRF Oldie
Posts: 32449
Joined: 16 May 2008 12:00

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by chetak »

Karthik S wrote:He is "dying of old age", nothing to rejoice. Wish he faced the Indian law ,in the lines of mossad law.
maybe it's all an elaborate ISI paki plan to "declare" him dead and with some plastic surgery, build a new identity
SSridhar
Forum Moderator
Posts: 25101
Joined: 05 May 2001 11:31
Location: Chennai

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by SSridhar »

You can't be in denial about terrorism, India tells Pakistan - Sachin Parashar, ToI
India's foreign secretary S Jaishankar flatly told Pakistan on Tuesday that it can't be in denial about terrorism and terrorist groups in Pakistan targeting India.

He also said Pakistan can't be in denial about the impact of terrorism on relations between the two countries.

"Terrorist groups based in Pakistan targeting India must not be allowed to operate with impunity," Jaishankar said.

Jaishankar also told Pakistan's foreign secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry in a 90-minute meeting that India wants early and visible progress in the Pathankot terror attack investigation.

The two met on the sidelines of the annual Heart of Asia conference.

Pakistan didn't mention the Pathankot terror attack once, but Chaudhry managed to tell India about his concern over Indian intelligence agency RAW's alleged involvement in Balochistan and also about Kashmir remaining the core issue for his country, according to a Pakistan High Commission statement.

The Pakistan High Commission's statement was released even as the two officials were meeting and before the meeting ended.

Chaudhry also expressed concern about RAW's alleged involvement in ''subversive activities" in Karachi and the matter of the capture of alleged RAW officer, Kulbushan Jadev, the Pakistan High Commission's statement said. He reportedly said such involvement undermines efforts to normalize relations between the two countries.


Sources told TOI that Jaishankar told Chaudhry that no spy agency will put their agent in the field with their own passport and without a visa :lol:

Even as Chaudhry underscored his country's commitment to friendly ties with India, he reportedly insisted in the meeting that Kashmir required "a just solution in accordance with the United Nations Security Council resolutions.

Pakistan has sought to provide fresh thrust to the J&K issue in the recent past and it was made obvious further with the manner in which Islamabad declared that Kashmir was its main topic of discussion even before the meeting between the foreign secretaries was over.

"The meeting provided a useful opportunity to exchange views on recent developments in a bilateral context," Chaudhry said. India is expected to react shortly to what transpired in the meeting

Pakistan had been keen on a meeting between the two top diplomats to ensure that its Kashmir agenda did not appear as diluted, as India continued to underline the significance of terrorism in bilateral ties. It is well known that Pakistan army had not taken kindly to the meeting last year in Ufa between PM Narendra Modi and his counterpart Nawaz Sharif because of Sharif's alleged failure to mention Kashmir upfront. The joint statement after that meeting had no specific mention of J&K, which was said to have upset Pakistan's army chief Raheel Sharif.

"Another important bilateral (meeting) for Foreign Secretary as he meets with his Pakistan counterpart Aizaz Ahmed Chaudhry," MEA spokesperson Vikas Swarup tweeted.
It is very obvious that the ISI spirited away the so-called RAW agent just in order to draw an equivalence between itself and India on the issue of terrorism, to ward off pressure and create problems for India internationally.
Gagan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 11242
Joined: 16 Apr 2008 22:25

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Gagan »

Peregrine wrote:Dawood Ibrahim doesn't have gangrene, says his deputy Chhota ShakeelAccording to inputs, Dawood, though confined mostly to his two to three safe houses in Karachi (White House, Clifton; House No. 37, 30th Street, Defence Housing Authority; and the bungalow in Noorabad area) continues to actively pursue his business interests
Those addresses are delibrately ambiguous.
They need to mention which DHA phase, rd no, other proper identifiers
:evil:
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

The Bhagat Singh of Panama :mrgreen:
PM’s April 22 speech ended with the full ‘sarfaroshi ki tamana’ verse, which was later edited out, seriously
While the political opponents and media persons are still engaged in interpreting various shades of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s April 22 speech, the nation has missed an opportunity to watch the Pakistani premier in the role of legendary revolutionary leader Bhagat Singh.
The decision taken at the eleventh hour to cut a revolutionary-verse from the concluding part of Nawaz Sharif’s recorded speech deprived the masses of listening to ‘sarfaroshi ki tamana ab hamaray dil mein hai’ from embattled prime minister’s mouth
So, Ganja has indeed launched his acting career !
The speech writer was none other than the prolific Urdu writer cum Advisor to Prime Minister, Irfan Siddiqqui. The patriotic poem ‘sarfaroshi ki tamana’ was written in 1921 by Ram Parsad Bismal and became immortal in the Indo-Pak history when freedom fighters including Bhagat Singh, Chandrashekhar Azad and Ashfaqullah Khan adopted it as their war-song.
Just like they are trying to "appropriate" the Mohenjodaro civilization of the Indus Valley, they have no shame in being counted with the infidels when it serves their purpose :mrgreen:
Had the speech been delivered in its originally recorded form, it would have ignited a new debate in the media on the possible ‘enemies’ of the Sharif government and the ‘strength of their arms or ARMS’. The comparison between a freedom fighter who laid down his life for the motherland and a politician with hidden offshore assets would have invited further embarrassment for the ruling family if the verse had not been deleted from the tape. :mrgreen:
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

Islamic High Priest Of Pakiland Pontificates On Economics !- Maulana Sherani for bringing back gold and silver as currency
SLAMABAD (Web Desk) – In an unusual demand, Council of Islamic Ideology Chairman Maulana Muhammad Khan Sheerani has called for “bringing back the circulation of gold and silver in the country.”
Sherani, the chairman of Pakistan top religious body, was speaking at a seminar hosted by the CII in Islamabad on Tuesday. He said that in the past economy was based on silver and gold coins. “We must bring back the circulation of gold and silver,” he demanded.

So, the "men of the cloth", instead of confining themselves to religious issues have started dabbling in worldly matters !

Maulana Sherani, Ashrafi grab one another’s collars over Ahmadis
“The current system of economy based on paper currency is not durable because there is nothing concrete in paper currency,” he pointed out.
Pakistan’s top cleric willing to review blasphemy law
The CII chief further said that Islamic style of economy was necessary to revive Islamic principles.
Maulana Sherani also announced that the council would open a debate on re-circulation of gold and silver coins.
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

Over 50 suspects including nephew of Maulana Abdul Aziz held in Islamabad

But by all accounts, the maulana himself remains "untouchable", due to his "domestic clout" (read: Deep State !) and foreign patron ( Head Of The Two Holy Mosques !) :mrgreen:
Gagan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 11242
Joined: 16 Apr 2008 22:25

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Gagan »

While India issues visas to Uhigur dissidents...
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

Sy Hersh's Book on Bin Laden Killing Rejects U.S. Story, Says Saudis Financed Hiding of Qaeda Leader
Next month will mark the fifth anniversary of the raid that led to the death of Osama bin Laden. We speak with legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh about his new book, "The Killing of Osama bin Laden," in which he argues the official U.S. account of how bin Laden was found and killed was deceptive, and that Pakistan detained bin Laden in 2006 and kept him prisoner with the backing of Saudi Arabia. He suggests that the U.S. and Pakistan then struck a deal: The U.S. would raid bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, but make it look as if Pakistan was unaware.

If true, then the outrage by the Paki Govt (violation of So - virginity etc ) was all "showbaazi" :mrgreen:
AMY GOODMAN...Our guest for the hour is Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh. Next week will mark the fifth anniversary of the assassination of Osama bin Laden. This is President Obama announcing the news of his death five years ago.
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation... After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.
AMY GOODMAN: So, that was President Obama speaking in May 2011. Sy Hersh, your new book, titled The Killing of Osama bin Laden, you argue the official account of how bin Laden was found and killed was deceptive. Explain what you think really happened, and talk about the role of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and, of course, the United States.
SEYMOUR HERSH: Well, one of the myths that was created was that we discovered where he was living. Abbottabad is about 50 or 60 miles from the capital of Islamabad. It’s a hilly, higher elevation. And in the summer, it’s a resort place for many of the people who go—many of the people in the government and the military take their vacations there. It’s sort of a Pakistani Martha’s Vineyard, if you will. And anyway, he was there.
What I know, as in "know," is there was a walk-in, that in August of 2010, a Pakistani—I can say right now, he was a colonel in the regular army, not in the ISI, the Pakistani intelligence service, which is a very tough bunch, a separate group. He was an officer who had been passed over for general or whatever, and was—came into our embassy. We have a station chief there who’s quite—quite competent guy named Jonathan Bank. And he went in to him and said, "We’ve had bin Laden for four years." ISI got him. The Pakistani intelligence service picked him up probably in the Hindu Kush area, in the areas—the mountain area between Pakistan and Afghanistan—where we thought he was. He had been on the run for—let’s see, since late 2011, when we drove him out of Afghanistan into the mountain region. And we finally got him. We looked for him. We thought we had him in '02. There was a firefight that nobody knows about yet, with the SEALs. But anyway, we finally got him because of a walk-in. And you have to know, in the business of the CIA, protecting a walk-in is the most important thing. And so, a walk-in. And so, if you have a bunch of people somewhere in the basement, intelligence officers working on trying to track him through couriers, you may let them think that they did do it, because that's just the way it works in the CIA. You know, they don’t always tell the truth to their people that work for them, when it comes to protecting a source, somebody who walks in.
And where I was dumb—you know, this story, I initially wrote much of this in the London Review, oh, about—last year sometime, caused a lot of trouble then. And what I did then, I was so naïve. I thought I had a dog-that-didn’t-bark issue. I thought, I’m going to put the name of Bank in there, high in the story, in the—maybe seven, eight graphs into the story. I’m going to say the walk-in went to Jon Bank. And that’s—I was going to take a chance that Bank would not succumb to pressure. A knew a lot about him. He’s a Harvard grad, very bright guy, very competent. And I just didn’t think he would be trotted out by the CIA to say, "What? What’s Hersh writing about? I don’t know anything about a walk-in." And I thought the fact that I named him and he said nothing after I wrote the story would be important to the media. But it wasn’t, and nobody paid a bit of attention. And he didn’t do—he didn’t. Instead, they trotted out a retired guy that was plugging a book, named Morell, whose book was—let’s see, I think it was 53 pages of criticism by the Senate Intelligence Committee for something like 78 lies, or maybe it’s 78 pages for 53 lies, that had been published. They just trashed him for the book. And yet, he would go on on television and go after me, nobody asking him about his previous lies in his book. Anyway, big deal.
What’s important is, the story we got is that—and I must say, when you do a story like I did, I did have more contact with people in the ISI after I wrote. I learned much more, that was totally—gave me much more flesh on the skimpy bones I guess I had. The first thing the Pakistani high-level—very close to the Saudis. The two generals in charge, General Kayani, who was at the time head of the army, and General Pasha, head of the Pakistani intelligence service, were the two key guys for us. And why so we—Pakistan is very important to us, because they have over a hundred bombs, and it’s one of the big national security issues for us constantly. Where are the bombs? Are they telling us the truth? Are they keeping some out of the count? As somebody once said to me, "Are they hiding a few bombs in the tall grass along the runway somewhere?" And that’s always our worry.
AMY GOODMAN: Nuclear bombs, you’re talking about.
SEYMOUR HERSH: We worry about it. It’s, I would say, one of the more acute issues. We don’t want—Pakistan is very close to the Saudis, very close. There’s a lot of close relationships. Pakistanis go and they work in the security area there, etc. There’s always been a fear that one bomb would get transferred somewhere. It’s just one of our more rational fears in foreign policy. And we work very hard at it. And so, what happened is, we were stunned when the—
AMY GOODMAN: You’re talking, Sy, about nuclear bombs, right? Atomic bombs.
SEYMOUR HERSH: Yeah, oh, my god. Serious nuclear bombs, ranging from small, little, hand-held ones to the major, major ones that can—you know, that mimic some of the high stuff we have—not ICBMs, but they can be delivered by airplane. Anyway, what happened is—
AMY GOODMAN: Sy—
SEYMOUR HERSH: Yes, go ahead.
AMY GOODMAN: I just want to say, we only have a minute to go, and I want to get—
SEYMOUR HERSH: Oh, I’m sorry.
AMY GOODMAN: —to the issue that you allege, that the Saudi government was—was funding Osama bin Laden—
SEYMOUR HERSH: Absolutely.
AMY GOODMAN: —in Abbottabad, in Pakistan.
SEYMOUR HERSH: The Saudi government was funding—we got him in '06. We learned about him in 2010. We killed him—we murdered him, really, in 2011. And the Saudis, for those years didn't—the Pakistanis did not tell us, because the first person they told that they—when they got him, through the ISI in '06, and put him in Abbottabad, they may—the first people they told were the Saudis. Why? Because the Saudis paid a lot of money to the two generals, and to others, perhaps, to keep it quiet, to keep it from us. They did not want us getting to bin Laden and talking to him. And I can tell you, since I've written that—I learned that from Americans—I’ve learned from ISI people that one of the ways they move money is they send tankers to us. They send—the Saudis would send tankers of oil to the Pakistanis for resale. You can reflag any ship on the ocean. It’s an easy way to move money around. You can change ownership from Pakistani to Pakistani—from Saudi to Pakistani on the high sea.
AMY GOODMAN: Twenty seconds.
SEYMOUR HERSH: So, anyway, it’s a story we didn’t want to push too far publicly. But we actually—we were never supposed to announce the killing in Pakistan. They were supposed to take the body out, take it to the Hindu Kush mountains, and a day—a week or so later, announce that we killed him in a drone raid. And what the president did that night, because of political pressure, because of the worries about waiting a week—maybe somebody else would tell the story—he jumped ahead. It was re-election night. I guess any president would do that. But he did jump ahead. And he left Pasha and Kayani—
AMY GOODMAN: Five seconds.
SEYMOUR HERSH: He left our two generals, the two generals in charge of the bombs, hanging. Not a good thing to do.
AMY GOODMAN: Seymour Hersh, I want to thank you for being with us. We’ll continue this conversation, post it online at democracynow.org.
Seymour Hersh is usually right in most of his stories
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

KP govt denies offering citizenship to Darren Sammy
CM Pervez Khattak's offer was made through a fake Twitter account, says spokesman.


Hope he is not serious in "accepting the offer"; (as and when a non-fake one is issued) it is like being considered persona- non -grata in the whole world :mrgreen:
SSridhar
Forum Moderator
Posts: 25101
Joined: 05 May 2001 11:31
Location: Chennai

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by SSridhar »

India trying to defame Pak over Masood Azhar: Pak foreign secretary - Indrani Bagchi, ToI
Pakistan foreign secretary Aizaz Ahmed Chaudhry on Tuesday accused India of trying to defame Pakistan in international fora by persisting with the listing of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar in the UN 1267 Sanctions Committee. The issue of Masood Azhar, being a big part of India's current diplomatic engagements, featured prominently in his discussions with foreign secretary S Jaishankar.

Pakistan's response appears to suggest there will be little 'give' from Islamabad on the listing of Azhar. China has placed a "technical hold" on Azhar's designation. After India protested, China asked India to "consult" Pakistan on the issue. This was reiterated to TOI by Chinese officials in Delh i. The Azhar issue has been flagged by foreign minister Sushma Swaraj with her Chinese counterpart Wang Yi, and NSA Ajit Doval with his counterpart Yang Jiechi.

In Beijing, the Chinese government clarified that status quo would prevail on the Azhar listing unless Pakistan allowed it. The foreign ministry spokesperson was quoted as saying that the Azhar block is "in line with Security Council resolutions and the 1267 committee's rules of procedure for China to place a technical hold on the listing ... the committee encourages communication between countries that ask for the listing and countries where individuals or entitities covered in the listing come from or live in. We encourage all parties related to the listing of Masood Azhar to have direct communication and work out a solution through serious consultation ."
milano
BRFite -Trainee
Posts: 75
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by milano »

What the heck is it with these Pakistanis and their obsession with China-related acronyms and how these acronyms are game-changers? Here the analyst, a senator no less, goes above and beyond the usual "Pakistan is the cross roads of the four corners of the earth" and calls Pakistan a zipper that will unify the region both physically and economically. A zipper? What would Freud say about this?

Warning to readers that you may throw up at the self-importance being projected (usually a sign of serious inferiority complex) as well as the wanton use of many, many acronyms - the only one she missed was PBUH.

http://nation.com.pk/columns/27-Apr-201 ... me-changer
johneeG
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3473
Joined: 01 Jun 2009 12:47

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by johneeG »

Wasn't all these alternative theories on 9/11 supposed to be conspiracy theories?! Now, they are not conspiracy anymore? 8)
Manish_P
BRF Oldie
Posts: 5498
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 17:34

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Manish_P »

SEYMOUR HERSH: Yeah, oh, my god. Serious nuclear bombs, ranging from small, little, hand-held ones to the major, major ones that can—you know, that mimic some of the high stuff we have—not ICBMs, but they can be delivered by airplane. Anyway, what happened is—
:shock:

Doubt they or the koreans would have succeeded in the miniaturisation... gifted by tallel fliend ?
Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Post by Falijee »

Badmash Muddying The Issue : "Nawaz Sharif’s name appeared in Panama Papers news mistakenly, clearifies ICIJ" :roll:
Until you read the small print
SLAMABAD (Staff Report) – The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), a global union which exposed ownership of offshore companies by publishing Panama Papers, has said that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s name was included in the news stories based on Panama Papers due to editing mistake.
“Nawaz Sharif’s name doesn’t appear in original documents of Panama Papers, however a sentence included in Panama Papers story implied as if Pakistani Prime Minister directly controls the offshore companies,” a statement read.
no link provided !
Then this gem :
As of April 21, the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists has updated the information about offshore companies of Nawaz Sharif’s sons, which now states that Hassan Nawaz and Hussain Nawaz control the offshore companies.

So, Abbajan, saved his Enchendee, and the juniors ( Hassan and Hussein ) have now taken the rap ; will the Aam Abduls buy this ? :mrgreen:
Last edited by Falijee on 27 Apr 2016 15:58, edited 1 time in total.
Post Reply