Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

arun · Post by **arun** » 14 Jun 2016 20:56

US Presidential candidate Donald Trump says that he would ban immigrants from the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan

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Other countries besides the Islamic Republic of Pakistan from whom immigrants would be barred by Donald Trump are Afghanistan and Syria:

Trump Says He Would Ban Afghan, Pakistani Immigrants From U.S.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 14 Jun 2016 21:18

https://twitter.com/daryakhan1/status/7 ... 7192672257

Darya Khan Shinwari ‏@daryakhan1 2h2 hours ago
ANA Troops in the way from Kabul to #Torkham

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 14 Jun 2016 21:19

https://twitter.com/daryakhan1/status/7 ... 0731684864

Darya Khan Shinwari ‏@daryakhan1 11m11 minutes ago
Checkpost destroyed by ANA #Torkham

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 14 Jun 2016 21:19

https://twitter.com/omar_quraishi/statu ... 7338331136

omar r quraishi ‏@omar_quraishi 6h6 hours ago
Pakistan army tanks seen heading to the Torkham border with Afghanistan - posted on June 13

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 14 Jun 2016 21:20

https://twitter.com/daryakhan1/status/7 ... 9697020928

Darya Khan Shinwari ‏@daryakhan1 7h7 hours ago
#Torkham 27 Students Graduated from indian national army Academy thanks @narendramodi for such fabulous gift

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 14 Jun 2016 21:21

https://twitter.com/daryakhan1/status/7 ... 7340072960

Darya Khan Shinwari ‏@daryakhan1 7h7 hours ago
#Torkham pakistani tang destroy by Afg police during yesterday clash

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 14 Jun 2016 21:21

https://twitter.com/daryakhan1/status/7 ... 9979902976

Darya Khan Shinwari
‏@daryakhan1
#Torkham Vedio show Pkarmy dies & injured during clash with Afghan force

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 14 Jun 2016 21:39

AoA
Pakistan lost 1 major, 2 captains and 21 soldiers in the clash with the ANA at Torkham

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 14 Jun 2016 21:46

https://twitter.com/AmirTaheri4/status/ ... 0211909632

Amir Taheri ‏@AmirTaheri4 37m37 minutes ago
KHASH- Iranian border guard Muhamad Chah-Chakandi buried after martyrdom ceremony. Was killed in gunbattle with terror group from #Pakistan.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 14 Jun 2016 21:50

OMG! The whole world is attacking Al-Bakistaan!
Bakistan is getting caught in world war! 5th Gen waar!! Isolation !!! Evil Moodi!!!!

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 14 Jun 2016 21:51

Gagan wrote:AoA
Pakistan lost 1 major, 2 captains and 21 soldiers in the clash with the ANA at Torkham

India should help Afghanistan and Iran to fence up their border and fill it with flood lights.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 14 Jun 2016 21:58

Is it possible to have a dedicated thread for trouble in the rear of Bakistan. Things are really warming up.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 14 Jun 2016 22:01

Pakistan moves to hire Washington lobbyists amid strained US ties

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is looking to hire lobbying firms in Washington after a gap of nearly eight years, seeking to refurbish its image in the United States at a time of deteriorating relations between the allies, two government officials told Reuters on Tuesday.

Ties have been particularly strained following a US unmanned aircraft strike that killed top Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansour Balochistan, which Islamabad protested was a violation of its sovereignty.

Relations have also been tense since a plan to buy eight F-16 fighter jets from the United States fell through this May after the US Congress refused to approve the deal.

The deal, valued at $699 million, came unstuck after Congress refused to authorise the use of US government funds to pay for the aircraft under the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program.

"Pakistan used to have lobbyists in Washington...Now we want to relaunch the effort," said a senior government official, who asked not to be identified, as he was not authorised to speak to the media on the record.

Islamabad dropped its official lobbying efforts during the 1999-2008 military rule of General Pervez Musharraf, the official said, adding that the government had now decided it needed help selling its image.

"Look at India and other countries, and how aggressive their public relations is," the official added. "In light of this, and most recently, of course, the whole episode with the F-16s, Pakistan has decided that it has to step up its lobbying efforts in D.C."

A second government official in the prime minister´s media team confirmed the decision, saying it aimed at stepping up efforts to "sell Pakistani interests and improve its image in the United States".

The official added, "We are fighting this war on terror at great cost to lives and our economy. Yet we keep hearing that we have to do more.Clearly there is a public relations gap."

Neither official would name the lobbying firms Pakistani officials are talking to. Pakistan was shortlisting prospective lobbying firms, foreign policy chief Sartaj Aziz on Monday told a Senate meeting on defence and foreign affairs.

Some jets in Pakistan´s fleet of F-16s are due to be decommissioned in the next few years and the government says it needs the aircraft to fight Islamist militants in remote mountains near neighbouring Afghanistan.

It is now considering buying used F-16 fighter jets from Jordan.
Cheers

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 14 Jun 2016 22:04

Afghanistan did not recognize the Durand line. They consider the Pashtun area of Pakistan to be their own territory. They are the ones who don't want any fencing there.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 14 Jun 2016 22:06

The U.S must be diverting the assitance meant for Pakistan to Afghanistan and the F-16's to Afghanistan who need it the most.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 14 Jun 2016 22:20

The Iran-Pakistan border is already 'fenced' with a very poorly maintained single circulatory barbed wire

The afghans have blown up a paki tank.
Wonder if a RPG-7 did it in or did the Mi-35s did it

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 Jun 2016 22:22

Pakistan is being attached on all fronts- politically and militarily!

Two trends noticeable in their print press:

1. Afghanistan is now practically " a colony of India "

2. US has ditched Pakistan once again and is now in "bed with India"

Modi-ji (and Doval-ji's ) diplomacy seems to be working in conjunction with the "Powerful Indian Lobby" of NRI's

member_28803 · Post by **member_28803** » 14 Jun 2016 22:35

Why is there no dedicated POK thread here? I think it's time..

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Jun 2016 23:36

Falijee wrote:Pakistan is being attached on all fronts- politically and militarily!

Two trends noticeable in their print press:

1. Afghanistan is now practically " a colony of India "

2. US has ditched Pakistan once again and is now in "bed with India"

Modi-ji (and Doval-ji's ) diplomacy seems to be working in conjunction with the "Powerful Indian Lobby" of NRI's

that's why the paki army need a field marshal quickly.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Jun 2016 23:58

Paki being pushed to (p)coup before Ganja recoup & close the loop. Lets hope general Mucchar become Kukkar of Pakootar and rule at least a decade,sparing nothing to bring true Islam to Awaam.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 15 Jun 2016 00:09

Afghan Version Of Pak-Afghan Skirmish In Which Paki Army Major Died
Senior Pakistani army officer dies after injured during clash with Afghan forces

A senior Pakistani army officer has died of his wounds after he was injured during a clash with the Afghan forces in Torkham. (Dawn News Photo)
According to the local media reports, the senior army officer, Major Ali jawad Changezi, died at the Combined military Hospital in Peshawar today.
This is the first official confirmation of a Pakistani army officer killed during the heavy clash erupted late on Sunday night.
The Afghan officials said an Afghan border policeman lost his life and six others were wounded during the battle with the Pakistani forces.
Clashes between the two sides erupted late on Sunday night after the Afghan forces prevented installation of a door in zero point along the Durand Line in Torkham.

he Pakistani Ambassador to Afghanistan was summoned in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Afghanistan (MoFA) over the skirmish that was reportedly launched by the Pakistani forces.
The deputy foreign minister for administrative affairs Dr. Nasir Ahmad Andisha reminded the Pakistani Ambassador regarding an agreement was reached for the establishment of installations in Torkham as part of the negotiations between the two nations in accordance with the international norms.

Dr. Andisha further added that Pakistani continued with the installation work contrary to the agreement and the Pakistani forces opened fire on the Afghan border guards.

He said the Afghan forces retaliated to protect the sovereignty and defend from their country.

(1) Pakistan has a "track record" of violating all agreements (UN Resolution withdrawing troops from POK, Simla Agreement, Ceasefire Agreements etc )
(2) No Afghan Govt (including the Taliban Govt ) has ever recognized the artificial Durand Line as the border between the two countries
(3) Other press reports have suggested that the Paki Army dead and injured are much higher than officially reported ( just like the "internal displaced" by the so-called Zarb-e -Arb operation is intentionally under reported !)
(4) Pakistan is going to be saddled with a large population of fifth column disgruntled Pathans/ Pashtuns

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 Jun 2016 01:40

chetak wrote:that's why the paki army need a field marshal quickly.

If chunnu-munnu in africa sneezes, Pakis need a field marshal!
If mona daarling winks, Pakis need a field marshal!

If milk goes stale in their kitchen, its probably a CIA, Mossad, RAW sazish.
And they'll need a Field Marshal for this too...

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 Jun 2016 01:44

BTW, all those pictures posted by that afghan dude Darya Khan Shinwari on twitter are fakes.
His news may be accurate, but those pics, even the tank ones are not Paki.

Pakis are in a 400% news clampdown mode on Torkham and all ISPR hell will break loose on the reporter who dares step out of line here

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 Jun 2016 02:00

Pak-Afghan skirmish at Torkham Border

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra7BGsrhKdQ

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 Jun 2016 02:02

We need a new dhaga for the Torkham clashes? Wonder if this will last and be the begining of something bigger?

This video in Pashto (I can't understand ANYTHING!) shows the afghans all charged up. One can't understand, but they are saying some not so pleasant thing for the Pakis

Fresh Fighting Breaks Out At Torkham Border
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l879GrYL8EU

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 Jun 2016 02:09

Pakistan Army’s artillery unit passing from Landi Kotal on its way to Pak-Afghan border

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BL_XU-PS10

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 Jun 2016 02:10

400% ISPR-certified news onlee.

Breaking News Pakistan Army Captured Many Check Posts of Afghanistan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKJKkTvqCWQ

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 15 Jun 2016 05:09

Pakistan may buy used F-16 jets from Jordan

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is considering a Jordanian offer to buy sixteen used F-16 jets in lieu of the eight advanced fighters it could not buy from the United States because of a financing row, but officials fear Washington could still throw a spanner in the works.

The case for the purchase of F-16s from the US is closed, “we are now going for a third party transfer of F-16s and have an offer from Jordan”, Defence Secretary retired Lt Gen Alam Khattak told a joint sitting of the Senate ...

Pakistani officials contend that the reasons for which US Congress withheld the financing were non-negotiable. However, the episode has forced the government to rethink its strategy of not having lobbyists in Washington and a couple of lobbying firms are expected to be hired shortly for the country’s image correction and improving relations with Congress.

Aid monies received from US , recycled back to Massaland to pay the lobby firms

Secretary Khattak conceded that the used Block-30 F-16s being offered by Jordan were not of the same quality and standard as the Block-52 that were originally intended to be bought from the US.

But will US/ US Congress allow the transfer ?

The defence secretary observed that for the state-of-the-art fifth generation fighters Russian and French markets would have to be explored.

But where is the money coming from

Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz told the meeting that the government was right in not accepting the US conditions. “If the conditions affect national interest, it is better not to accept them. It was an issue of choices,” he contended while deliberating on the reasons that led to the cancellation of the F-16 deal with the US.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 15 Jun 2016 05:27

Pakistan, Afghan soldiers clash at Khyber Pass border: officials.
By Reuters.
Additional reporting by Rafiq Sherzad at TORKHAM. Asad Hashim in ISLAMABAD; Writing by Drazen Jorgic; Editing by Nick Macfie

Pakistani and Afghan soldiers clashed overnight at the main border crossing at the end of the Khyber Pass, officials said on Monday, with at least one killed and several wounded, further straining relations between the militancy-plagued neighbors.
One Afghan soldier was killed and six were wounded, an Afghan official said. The Pakistani army said one of its soldiers was wounded in the fighting at the Torkham Gate crossing in the mountainous region of northwestern Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan.

"We currently have agreed on a ceasefire with #Pakistan. We hope this problem will end through the work by diplomatic addresses," the Afghan government's chief executive, Abdullah Abdullah, said on Twitter.
"The current fight Pakistan started doesn't help anyone's interest."
Relations between the neighbors have been strained in recent months. Kabul has accused Pakistan of harboring militants seeking to topple the Afghan government, including the notorious Haqqani network, blamed for high-profile attacks in the capital.

Pakistan denies supporting militants and said it was constructing a border gate near Torkham, a Pakistani town close to the frontier, to prevent militants crossing from Afghanistan into Pakistan.

Ayub Hussainkhil, border police commander in eastern Afghanistan, said the fighting at the Torkham Gate stopped at t 5 a.m. on Monday.
"We have received reinforcement and are ready to defend our country until the last drop of blood in our bodies," he said.
The Pakistan-Afghanistan border has long remained porous and disputed. Afghanistan has blocked repeated attempts by Pakistan to build a fence on sections of the roughly 2,200-km (1,370-mile) long frontier, rejecting the contours of the boundary.
All Afghan Govts have rejected the artificial Durand Line- drawn by the British - as a "border"

Last month, Pakistan build a border post between Pakistan's South Waziristan and Afghanistan's Paktika province and handed it over to Afghan officials.

Hours later, Afghan authorities shut the post, saying that the actual border lay about a kilometer inside Pakistani territory .

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 15 Jun 2016 09:29

Peregrine wrote:Pakistan moves to hire Washington lobbyists amid strained US ties

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is looking to hire lobbying firms in Washington after a gap of nearly eight years, seeking to refurbish its image in the United States at a time of deteriorating relations between the allies, two government officials told Reuters on Tuesday.

"Pakistan used to have lobbyists in Washington...Now we want to relaunch the effort," said a senior government official, who asked not to be identified, as he was not authorised to speak to the media on the record.

Islamabad dropped its official lobbying efforts during the 1999-2008 military rule of General Pervez Musharraf, the official said, adding that the government had now decided it needed help selling its image.

This article is interesting and misleading. It reads as though Pakistan dropped lobbying in 1999-2008 period during Mushy's role. Actually Pakistan had very active lobbying in 1998-2008 period and was dropped when ten percenti came to power. That is why during Mushy's rule most western papers/netas thought Mushy was a straight shooter who did what he promised and was the only one who could hold the country together etc etc. It was all marketing.

The reason for why ten percenti dropped lobbying firm is interesting: Apparently the lobbying firm was run through ISPR and were actually lobbying for jernails over the civvies

and during Mushy era were selling the idea that TFTAs were more reliable partners than the civvies and there was no alternative to musharraf.

So lobbying became a bad word, lobbyists inevitably started lobbying for TFTAs, because TFTAs took over the lobbying firm relationship. Now Nawaz sharif has restarted the effort. Lets see where that leads

Expect Field Marshal Raheel Sharif's popularity to soar in the US now

habal · Post by **habal** » 15 Jun 2016 09:57

try not to spill your coffee

a normal day in pakistan

https://www.facebook.com/farooq.shah.20 ... 237569873/

asgkhan · Post by **asgkhan** » 15 Jun 2016 10:02

Common scenarios of bakis :

* Always at crossroads
* Heartburn on seeing wimmens on bikes in Delhi
* Mental m@sturbation on seeing F-Solahs flying in fizzle-ya colors
* Regret that death by 1000 cuts is not working

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 15 Jun 2016 10:28

Sometimes it is shocking to see how much these people follow India. I am sure that no Indian channel follows Narendra Modi's foreign state visits with such detail as the Pakistanis do. I am convinced that Pakistanis are not Muslims, they never were and they never can be. Maharaja Ranjit Singh and his regime had banned the Azaan from the mosques and people couldn't care less. Nobody was Muslim anyways. The Pakistanis were given the fake Muslim identity by the British from the Partition of Bengal days by Lord Curzon. It was deliberately done in the first decade of the 1900s to engineer the future partition of India. If the India-Pakistan relationship was truly a Hindu-Muslim relationship it would have been a very fruitful one and normalized long ago. The only way India should look at Pakistan is that they are at best disgruntled Hindus masquerading as Muslims.

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 15 Jun 2016 10:36

svinayak wrote:
Sometimes it is shocking to see how much these people follow India. I am sure that no Indian channel follows Narendra Modi's foreign state visits with such detail as the Pakistanis do. I am convinced that Pakistanis are not Muslims, they never were and they never can be. Maharaja Ranjit Singh and his regime had banned the Azaan from the mosques and people couldn't care less. Nobody was Muslim anyways. The Pakistanis were given the fake Muslim identity by the British from the Partition of Bengal days by Lord Curzon. It was deliberately done in the first decade of the 1900s to engineer the future partition of India. If the India-Pakistan relationship was truly a Hindu-Muslim relationship it would have been a very fruitful one and normalized long ago. The only way India should look at Pakistan is that they are at best disgruntled Hindus masquerading as Muslims.

Where is this from?

asgkhan wrote:Common scenarios of bakis :

* Always at crossroads
* Heartburn on seeing wimmens on bikes in Delhi
* Mental m@sturbation on seeing F-Solahs flying in fizzle-ya colors
* Regret that death by 1000 cuts is not working

ASG ji, you have rightly described Al-Bakistan general thought process in a very pithy way.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 15 Jun 2016 12:33

GoI must immediately issue a statement on Torkham situation. Forget superpower but if we want to be a regional power then we should start (publicly) getting involved in the subcontinent.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 15 Jun 2016 12:43

People with roots in Pakistan pose threat to US, says Trump - DT

Republican Donald Trump on Monday said people with roots in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Somalia pose threats to the United States. Pointing to specific incidents such as the September 11, 2001, attacks, Trump said threats were posed by people with roots in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Somalia.

Defending his immigration ban, he said it would last until "we are in a position to properly screen these people coming into our country. "They're pouring in, and we don't know what we're doing." Trump placed responsibility for the mass shooting in Florida squarely at the feet of radical Muslims, who he said were entering the country amidst a flood of refugees and "trying to take over our children."

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 15 Jun 2016 12:51

^+1. Here's some more proof...

>>The Associated Press ‏@AP Jun 14
BREAKING: Frenchman who attacked police had past terrorism conviction, ties to Pakistan jihad, police say.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 Jun 2016 13:52

Hate to say this, but islamism has been perpetuated, nurtured and further flamed by the CONgress & regional parties lead by the laloos, mulayam singhs, now mamta banerjee.
Wonder what things would be like in 10 years of bjp rule?

So Tahir-ul-paadri is starting another round of dharnas in Islamabad. Dunno if Imran khan is joining in yet (U bet he would - poor sod can only hope to ride to power on someone else's shoulder, ably assisted by the fauj)
Badmash will have to return sooner or later, and the field marshal in the wings awaits his return and his own coronation.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 15 Jun 2016 15:15

My sources reveal that an Afghan grandma lost her way and strayed inside Pakistan. She was promptly detained in Pakistan. Afghans wanted her released immediately, Pakistanis insisted on questioning her. This escalated into border firing.

Both Afghanistan and Pakistan should realize talks are the only option and de escalate

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 15 Jun 2016 15:27

Anujan wrote:My sources reveal that an Afghan grandma lost her way and strayed inside Pakistan. She was promptly detained in Pakistan. Afghans wanted her released immediately, Pakistanis insisted on questioning her. This escalated into border firing.

Both Afghanistan and Pakistan should realize talks are the only option and de escalate

Anujan, fantastic. You are, as usual, superb. We have to ask Praveen Swami to write his stuff from Torkham !