Saraswati River is part of the Indus basin isnt it, or rather the Saraswati-Indus Basin as it should be more appropriately called. We should divert Indus water to the Ghaggar instead. It flow into Pakistan eventually but then we kill 2 birds with one stone.Gagan wrote:....The only diversion India has done is from the Kishenganga to the Jhelum. IWT allows diversion from one river to the other within the indus basin. Wonder why India did not do it?...
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^^ very smart of MMS and his gang of crooks. first ensure that IA/IAF/IN dont have budget, weapons, resources. then grandiloquently ask them if they are ready for war. complete toadie of an individual beholden to signora and gang and not india.
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Exactly!
In leaked General V.K. Singh's letter to PM about two days ammo to fight, exposed the fact that politico-babu nexus has been choking the blood & oxygen of armed forces as a CBM to porkis and their 4 fathers!
And army was not being asked at that time to attack porkis or anything, it was just delibrate conspiracy of mms, saint & termite.
In leaked General V.K. Singh's letter to PM about two days ammo to fight, exposed the fact that politico-babu nexus has been choking the blood & oxygen of armed forces as a CBM to porkis and their 4 fathers!
And army was not being asked at that time to attack porkis or anything, it was just delibrate conspiracy of mms, saint & termite.
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^^ yes, manish. this is called setting up for failure. many toadies in indian orgs deliberately do this with individuals and groups they are insecure about. this is just another 3rd rater who basically starved indian forces of real eqpt (as versus some show piece inductions), ensuring forces didn't have the right items in quantity, making them fall on their sword & then saying it was their fault. who can forget NSG with beat up metal helmets from the 1980s and mismatched BPJs rushing to mumbai, while SPG strutted with color coordinated clothes and BMWs were imported en masse? MMS and co were the worst kind of political operators india has seen and continues to see. posture away and do everything to ensure everyone remains weak.
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Not to forget Sub batteries. We lost one 877 sub and precious lives directly due to this.
I am sure the story is the same for all the IAF crashes. MoD was probably sitting on the files for spares.
I know for sure that the Arjun was starved of spares, after they sabotaged the T-90 vs Arjun trials, to favour the Tin can
I am sure the story is the same for all the IAF crashes. MoD was probably sitting on the files for spares.
I know for sure that the Arjun was starved of spares, after they sabotaged the T-90 vs Arjun trials, to favour the Tin can
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Parrikar ji has to address this doubly quick.
If India has struck, the next few years will be tumultous on the LoC and the IB.
If Baloch gets asylum in India and forms the government in exile, things will be at a boil. The forces will have to be on alert all the time.
If India has struck, the next few years will be tumultous on the LoC and the IB.
If Baloch gets asylum in India and forms the government in exile, things will be at a boil. The forces will have to be on alert all the time.
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One of the first emergency purchases by the new government was for Spike man portable anti-missile from Israel in 2014. Guess who got the first batch...2/2 para
Dhruv can be fitted with them.
Dhruv can be fitted with them.
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Sumann Sharrma @SumannSharrma 33m33 minutes ago
Companies of 2 and 9 Para Special Forces conducted ops
Sumann Sharrma @SumannSharrma 23m23 minutes ago
This is just a small trailer , lots to follow . Could even be pre-mature Diwali !!
---------------------------------------Sumann Sharrma @SumannSharrma 7m7 minutes ago
Op is over. Air lifted back to parent location early morning without injury
Maj Gen SK Sinha @SKSk785 1h1 hour ago
@TheSherni It is trailer main film is due
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Aviator Anil Chopra @Chopsyturvey 52m52 minutes ago
Sums up the situation. The sher has got up. Just wait and see
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Feels like a weight has been lifted off one's shoulders.
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Two events are noteworthy:
1. PM meeting President
2. Closure of Air space over POK.
Something has cooked.
1. PM meeting President
2. Closure of Air space over POK.
Something has cooked.
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ohh man!!! hope it is not the dosa that has cooked starting to wish and pray now
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Hey can't see the image??
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someone should start hashtag #uri'srevenge
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Will Buddha smile again?
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There is already a hashtag #UriRevengeRoyG wrote:someone should start hashtag #uri'srevenge
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Someone should start a hashtag #WeDontKnowJackShitYetSoShutTheHellUpAndDOntGoOverboardWithTheRhetoric
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Yes, a nuclear war is what we really want, isn't it? I can see how we all would benefit.V_Raman wrote:Will Buddha smile again?
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Exactly.Someone should start a hashtag #WeDontKnowJackShitYetSoShutTheHellUpAndDOntGoOverboardWithTheRhetoric
A few bunch of tweets from unverified sources and the whole brf goes gaga. Thats what 30 years of inaction have done to us.
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True. Wait and see.Mihir wrote:Someone should start a hashtag #WeDontKnowJackShitYetSoShutTheHellUpAndDOntGoOverboardWithTheRhetoric
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i wish someone has a press conference tomorrow stating that haji pir pass has been liberated and back in indian control, simla agreement gaya bhaad mein anyways if the other party doesnt adhere to an agreement we dont need to either.
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I have a simple pooch, i am assuming that India did this raid and killed terrorists, but Question is why is Pak not spinning this as civilian killed story? Is it possible that indian forces not just killed but also pulled someone alive with proof of training etc.?
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Pakis denied that OBL attack ever occured.
Harami Gul to his death bed calimed that OBL was never there, that the raid never took place.
Whereas the truth is that harami was meeting OBL regularly
Then because POTUS himself stood in front of cameras and told the world, the pakis were red faced.
So they held a sham inquiry, jailed Dr Shakeel Afridi, then demolished the house. They sold the crashed helo's parts, paint, material to cheenis.
I don't see them accepting that this or any raid involving India ever took place. It will be a worse H&D loss than the OBL raid. Their reason dieter will be lost. Field Marshal Sharif will end up becoming Bartender Sharif.
Harami Gul to his death bed calimed that OBL was never there, that the raid never took place.
Whereas the truth is that harami was meeting OBL regularly
Then because POTUS himself stood in front of cameras and told the world, the pakis were red faced.
So they held a sham inquiry, jailed Dr Shakeel Afridi, then demolished the house. They sold the crashed helo's parts, paint, material to cheenis.
I don't see them accepting that this or any raid involving India ever took place. It will be a worse H&D loss than the OBL raid. Their reason dieter will be lost. Field Marshal Sharif will end up becoming Bartender Sharif.
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If the above is true, there will be mass hysteria in Pakistan if they admit that Indian troops entered PoK and killed some of their beloved freedom fighters. Why admit to that?
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The pakistanis won't do any nuclear war - a bunch of bullies who are finally getting their comeuppance. They are street level thugs who have long been acting like classical bullies, bluster & bravura. And they always back down when smacked hard. Most of their antics in India are to retain power at home and impress a rabid populace. Hey look, you have nothing but your ghazis are attacking kaffirs! Clap, clap, clap. IMHO..
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Will be interesting to see how their talk shows spin this tonight.
I hope they will deploy their lal topi wala expert and other jokers.
I hope they will deploy their lal topi wala expert and other jokers.
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Why is Pak not denying any of this? history says they are first to save their mardangi, this is huge if this happened (looks like foreign sec level meeting this was shared?). We all remember when we did raid in Burma, Pakis were like oh India wont dare in Pak we are sooper dooper fauj and 1 = 10 indians. If this indeed has happened we have something big in hand that even Pakis are scared to bring out and US is onboard with us.
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^^ Actually I have been thinking since yesterday, We had a good reason to capture Haji Peer point. May be we should declare a anti-paki sponsered terror policy just like NFU - For every terrorist attack we grab some land in PoJK as retribution. Is it possible to do that? I am not sure about the terrain though, any land grab will have to be easily sustainable. I trust IA would know it better, but govt has to give the order.suryag wrote:i wish someone has a press conference tomorrow stating that haji pir pass has been liberated and back in indian control, simla agreement gaya bhaad mein anyways if the other party doesnt adhere to an agreement we dont need to either.
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Lal Topi will give all four terrorists - who attacked the Uri camp - Hindu names, just like he did during the 2008 Mumbai attacks. And everyone in the audience - moderator included - will nod in agreement. Then Lal Topi will give a stern warning to India and the moderator will nod again - just like a trained monkey.Gagan wrote:Will be interesting to see how their talk shows spin this tonight.
I hope they will deploy their lal topi wala expert and other jokers.
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Apart from the rabid India haters at places like SD, many westerners are likely waiting to see when India will deliver a smackdown to TSP. I still remember in 2001, a US Army major mailing me privately on a discussion group and saying that he wished "Indian Army, good hunting". This when it seemed we would have a showdown with TSP.
TSP's mixture of rabid Islamism and bigotry, their constant self praising braggadacio, their tendency to talk themselves up and their military while their country is nothing but a failed basket case of a nation filled with rabid bigots - that has a tendency to rub many many many people over the years, the wrong way. Its become obvious to many. A journo who visited the F-16 base where PAF pilots were being trained wrote that the instructors thought they were the worst bunch of cadets they had seen. Undertrained, not committed & would not pass muster in any professional AF. Meanwhile, PAF was releasing self glorification articles in western media
Just because the state run and abetted media houses of the west present a slanted view - like the NYT etc, it does not mean the average joe, especially those who have experienced pakistaniyat up front in afghanistan etc, don't know what pakistanis are really like.
A parasitical, bigoted nation which contributes nothing to humanity bar terrorism and brags about it.
TSP's mixture of rabid Islamism and bigotry, their constant self praising braggadacio, their tendency to talk themselves up and their military while their country is nothing but a failed basket case of a nation filled with rabid bigots - that has a tendency to rub many many many people over the years, the wrong way. Its become obvious to many. A journo who visited the F-16 base where PAF pilots were being trained wrote that the instructors thought they were the worst bunch of cadets they had seen. Undertrained, not committed & would not pass muster in any professional AF. Meanwhile, PAF was releasing self glorification articles in western media
Just because the state run and abetted media houses of the west present a slanted view - like the NYT etc, it does not mean the average joe, especially those who have experienced pakistaniyat up front in afghanistan etc, don't know what pakistanis are really like.
A parasitical, bigoted nation which contributes nothing to humanity bar terrorism and brags about it.
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Pakis will likely come up with BS like, Our suicide bandar squaron locked on to Indian sukhoi, but the sukhoi ran away.
or
Our brave faujis at LOC saw indian commandos approacing hte LOC at night, so they fired at them. So the 9 indians ran away, leaving behind 5000 dead bodies and a cache of ammunition and vegetables.
This is the only level of putrid gaseous boasts one can expect from these low IQ idiots.
or
Our brave faujis at LOC saw indian commandos approacing hte LOC at night, so they fired at them. So the 9 indians ran away, leaving behind 5000 dead bodies and a cache of ammunition and vegetables.
This is the only level of putrid gaseous boasts one can expect from these low IQ idiots.
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Guys sumann Sharma has confirmed it clearly. I believe it and please don't expect a press release as it may be kept secret. Goi cannot officially accept it as it risks escalation
Let's see
Let's see
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H&D. Bakis teach their kids in schools that they won the war in 1965 and all that.Rampy wrote:I have a simple pooch, i am assuming that India did this raid and killed terrorists, but Question is why is Pak not spinning this as civilian killed story? Is it possible that indian forces not just killed but also pulled someone alive with proof of training etc.?
THis is not the first time for a cross-LoC raid. Bakis have always kept it under wraps to save their humiliation. And obviously we don't publicise covert ops.
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GoI will not do any press release. Was there any press release after Siachen was taken?? I am expecting pakis to go whining about nuclear flash point and the other usual cribs. Lets wait and see.
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According to the paki folklore, they've won every battle, skirmish and war.
How could they have lost 20-200 mard-e-momeens to kafir buniyas hain ji?
How could they have lost 20-200 mard-e-momeens to kafir buniyas hain ji?
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The fact that internal showbazi has started over the skies of pindi with their fighters flying around, only to later claim that the indians were once again deterred, and the bravest of them all, shahenshah-e-supreme General Sharif should be made Field Marshal, given a 2 year extension and given an pay increment of 40,000 pakistani rupees only
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Actually Shiv A reckons the mission/s are still ongoing based on intel found at the camps. He seems a bit miffed that some journalists might have jumped the gun
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I want to watch the Baki Randi Rona.
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^^^ Then start a Twitter war.
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Actually there is only one way to know for sure whether serious pain is indeed being unleashed on the PA and its jihadi proxies in response to Uri.
GOI will say nothing. IA will say nothing. A few tantalizing tidbits will be leaked on SM, but no official confirmation will be forthcoming.
OTOH, ISPR and GOPak will say nothing if a serious jhaapad has been delivered... for H&D reasons. The usual tamasha of b*tching and moaning that we've seen on Paki media since (at least) Modi's reference to POK and Baluchistan on Aug 15th, will continue at an even higher pitch of shrillness. However, given that the baseline was very shrill anyway, it will be hard to determine any significant difference that could be attributable to a successful covert IA strike.
You know what WILL happen if the strike actually took place and TSPA felt pain? Paki proxies in INDIA will be activated at full volume. Rajdeeps, Barkhas, Sagarikas, Karan Thapars, Indian Express, The Hindu, NDTV, CNN-IBN. THIS is where you will suddenly start seeing the tune change. From the Uri attack until now, Congressis were trying to frame sly jabs at "chhappan ki chhaati Modi" who "failed to respond forcefully to Pakistani terrorism". If a big raid took place and hard jhaapad was felt by the Pakis, the same Paki mouthpieces in Indian media will do a 180-degree turn... "uninterrupted and uninterruptible talks are the only way", "the spectre of nuclear war", "it is the poor people of Cashmere who will suffer in a war", "we are not the US, we are a poor country, don't be irresponsible and risk international isolation that could hinder economic development"... all these kinds of statements will suddenly start coming out from Pakistan's Track-II rundies in a desperate attempt to reconfigure public opinion against whatever action Modi took (without telling anybody).
Mark my words... this is where you will learn the truth!
GOI will say nothing. IA will say nothing. A few tantalizing tidbits will be leaked on SM, but no official confirmation will be forthcoming.
OTOH, ISPR and GOPak will say nothing if a serious jhaapad has been delivered... for H&D reasons. The usual tamasha of b*tching and moaning that we've seen on Paki media since (at least) Modi's reference to POK and Baluchistan on Aug 15th, will continue at an even higher pitch of shrillness. However, given that the baseline was very shrill anyway, it will be hard to determine any significant difference that could be attributable to a successful covert IA strike.
You know what WILL happen if the strike actually took place and TSPA felt pain? Paki proxies in INDIA will be activated at full volume. Rajdeeps, Barkhas, Sagarikas, Karan Thapars, Indian Express, The Hindu, NDTV, CNN-IBN. THIS is where you will suddenly start seeing the tune change. From the Uri attack until now, Congressis were trying to frame sly jabs at "chhappan ki chhaati Modi" who "failed to respond forcefully to Pakistani terrorism". If a big raid took place and hard jhaapad was felt by the Pakis, the same Paki mouthpieces in Indian media will do a 180-degree turn... "uninterrupted and uninterruptible talks are the only way", "the spectre of nuclear war", "it is the poor people of Cashmere who will suffer in a war", "we are not the US, we are a poor country, don't be irresponsible and risk international isolation that could hinder economic development"... all these kinds of statements will suddenly start coming out from Pakistan's Track-II rundies in a desperate attempt to reconfigure public opinion against whatever action Modi took (without telling anybody).
Mark my words... this is where you will learn the truth!