Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 30 Sep 2016 09:18

http://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/hocke ... nal-350277
India thrash Pakistan 3-1 in hockey U-18 Asia Cup semi-final, to face Bangladesh in final
Indian men’s U-18 hockey team on Thursday registered an emphatic 3-1 win against arch-rivals Pakistan in the semi-final of the Asia Cup.
India will now face Bangladesh in the final on Friday.
India dominated the match from the very start with Shivam Anand scoring the first goal in the seventh minute. Just before the halftime, Dilpreet Singh added a second goal in the 32nd minute. The third goal was scored by captain Nilam Sanjeep in the 46th minute.

It does not rain, it pours.
Gautam

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 30 Sep 2016 09:51

habal wrote:Indian muslims will not put down their cup of tea for Pakistan, let alone go about an uprising.

Exactly, Congress just went down in 2014. Hope Pakistan goes down quietly without fanfare. And two nation theory will be flushed down the drain.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 30 Sep 2016 10:18

A_Gupta wrote:If the surgical strike didn't take place, then the Pakistani awaam must be wondering what the fuss is about. If the surgical strike did take place, then the Pakistani awaam must be wondering what good their army is for. The myth that enables the Paki army to control the state starts evaporating, and the army will have to resort to more and more force. So Pakistan will be seeking revenge for an event that didn't take place.

Pakistani awaam was never told about the regular firing and cross border raids by Pak army all the time.

They were projected as win for Pak and Pak was dominating the borders with the backing of super power through out the cold war and after until 911. Even after that Pakistani awaam was given the impression they was winning the border and Pak army is strong and dominating the larger IA

This surgical strike was given global publicity and the Pakistani awaam is shocked and confused.
The Pak army has to deny it to maintain its image in the eyes of Pakistani awaam
Pak will try to show they are legitimate and ask for proof and all the things and convince Pakistani awaam

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 30 Sep 2016 10:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7hNf49DOeA

guys please check from 14:05. there are 2 IED attacks on uniformed soldiers. can anyone identify the force and/or the incidents ?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 30 Sep 2016 10:53

Rahul M wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7hNf49DOeA

guys please check from 14:05. there are 2 IED attacks on uniformed soldiers. can anyone identify the force and/or the incidents ?

Yeah, from way back. Maybe 2002? There are a few clips floating around.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 30 Sep 2016 10:56

force ? perpetrator ?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 30 Sep 2016 11:00

I think it was some BAT action. IEDs were placed close to the bunkers. Also, there are a few clips of our guys getting sniped and machine gunned. It wont be appropriate of me to post them here but you can find them.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 30 Sep 2016 11:02

okay.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Sep 2016 11:02

arun wrote:Excerpt from US State Department Daily Press Briefing September 29, 2016.

From here : Clicky

QUESTION: -- Prime Minister Modi, he spoke about one thing – what he had a great message for the people of Pakistan that Pakistan and India both got freedom on the same day, but Pakistan is supporting terrorism, India is supporting ITs, engineers, and doctors around the globe.

It is ironic that Jinnah told his West Asian interlocutors that but for him and his Pakistan, India would have swallowed and Hinduized their countries and that Islamic Pakistan would now supply Engineers, doctors, accountants et al to their lands !

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 30 Sep 2016 13:03

Looks like online soldiers of Mallustan had a field day on Asim Bajwa's FB page..

Surgical strikes across LoC: Pakistan general Asim Bajwa gets a taste of Malayali troll

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 30 Sep 2016 13:15

sudhan wrote:Looks like online soldiers of Mallustan had a field day on Asim Bajwa's FB page..

Surgical strikes across LoC: Pakistan general Asim Bajwa gets a taste of Malayali troll

no one has forgotten the pakis farcical strike on Mohanlal's website, thinking he was a senior Indian Army leader, thanks to his honorary Colonelship...... A few hours later, the count of paki websites flaunting a grinning Mohanlal's photo was around 140

(Last time, their Army FB page banned posters with Indian IP. But the pakis will never ban Gulf IPs and birathers banked on that. So birathers formed a daisy chain stretching across Indian Ocean into the dry, dusty, holy lands of Gulf and smacked them around for days. Curious bunch, these college kids with smartphones)

zoverian · Post by **zoverian** » 30 Sep 2016 13:30

Double whammy for Pakistan; Iran fires mortars into Balochistan

It was a double whammy for Pakistan, as on a day when India carried out a surgical strike across the Line of Control, its western border came under attack by Iranian forces. Iran Border Guards opened fire at Iran-Pakistan border on Wednesday.
The Iranian forces fired three mortars into Balochistan area of Pakistan triggering panic among the locals, who were taken by surprise.
"Mortar shells fired by Iranian border guards landed in the district of Panjgoor," a Balochistan provincial government official said.

Two of the shells landed near Frontier Corps check-post, while the third landed at Killi Karim Dad.

No property or human loss was reported in the shelling. Locals panicked as a result of the attack, and Frontier Corps personnel reached the site to take stock of the situation. Pakistani forces upgraded deployment of forces at its western border after the incident.
Pakistan shares a 900-kilometre porous border with Iran, which has accused Islamabad of letting terror outfits use its territory to carry out strikes across the border. The two forces have clashed in the past over terror attacks in Iranian territory.
Iran and Pakistan reached an agreement in 2014 to boost intelligence coordination to wipe out terrorists from the border region.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/paki ... 76265.html

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 30 Sep 2016 14:37

The afghans are giving it to them too.
Afghan army twitter feeds suggests they've taken out 12 militants + local commander in Hemland.
All of last week, the afghans have been saying that some middle eastern types have infiltrated in from Pakistan

These surgical strikes by India are in several different locations, Bhimber is just across the LOC near Jammu, while Kel is up north of Kishtwar

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 30 Sep 2016 15:23

http://www.firstpost.com/world/hillary- ... 28022.html
Hillary Clinton fears suicide nuclear bombers from Pakistan

"Pakistan is running full speed to develop tactical nukes in their continuing hostility with India," the former secretary of state told a closed-door fundraiser in Virginia in February, The New York Times reported, citing 50-minute audio being hacked from the Democratic Party's computers.

"But we live in fear that they're going to have a coup, that jihadists are going to take over the government, they’re going to get access to nuclear weapons, and you’ll have suicide nuclear bombers. So, this could not be a more threatening scenario," the daily quoted Clinton as saying in the audio that appeared on The Washington Free Beacon website.

During the fund raiser, responding to a question on modernisation of nuclear weapons, the daily said, Clinton went beyond the question to warn of an emerging nuclear arms race, naming Russia and China as well as Pakistan and India.

"This is one of the most dangerous developments imaginable," Clinton said.

Such remarks from the former secretary of state gains significance in view of an interview of Pakistani Defence Minister Khwaja Muhammad Asif to the local TV channel in which he threatened to unleash nukes against India.

"If our safety is threatened, we will annihilate them (India)," Asif had said.

The United States appears to have taken a strong note of Asif's recent statements on use of nuclear weapons.

"Nuclear capable states have the responsibility to exercise restraint regarding nuclear weapons and missile capabilities," a state department official told PTI when asked about the statements being made by the Pakistani leader.

Earlier, Defence Secretary Ashton Carter had said while India has generally shown responsible behaviour with nuclear technology, China conducts itself professionally, nuclear weapons in Pakistan are entangled in history of tensions.

Meanwhile, in an opinion "Consequences of Pakistani Terrorism: Raids signal that India won’t tolerate more attacks in Kashmir", The Wall Street Journal warned that Pakistan increasingly risks becoming a "pariah state" if it continues with such policies.

It said if Pakistan wants to prevent an escalation of violence it needs to shut down the terror groups it continues to support. "That should start with Jaish-e-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba, two major jihadist groups that operate openly in Pakistan and are prime suspects in these attacks," it said.

"Both groups are supported by its military despite being on United Nations lists of terrorist organisations," the daily said in the hard-hitting opinion piece, a day after India carried out surgical strikes in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir against terrorists planning to sneak into the country.

The Journal noted that the Prime Minister Narendra Modi has consistently offered closer economic and diplomatic ties to Pakistan as long as it stops supporting terrorism.

Modi's visit to Lahore was tactical and part of the strategic *isolate Baki* goal.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 30 Sep 2016 16:10

SAARC summit: Sri Lanka joins India, 3 others in boycott; Pakistan isolated

Bangladesh, Bhutan, Afghanistan and now Sri Lanka. The Indian campaign to isolate Pakistan in the aftermath of Uri attack has worked with Sri Lanka becoming the fourth country today confirming that it will not participate in the annual SAARC summit which is scheduled in November this year in Islamabad.
Sri Lankan ministry of Foreign Affairs, in official communication sent to SAARC chair Nepal today said, "Sri Lanka regrets that the prevailing environment in the region is not conducive for holding the 19th SAARC Summit in Islamabad on November 9 and 10 2016.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 30 Sep 2016 16:30

I believe, Nepal being the Chair has chosen to stay silent and has communicated accordingly to the India MEA counterparts. I doubt Nepal would like to be seen as the only supporter of Islamabad.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 30 Sep 2016 16:52

One can only expect that MFA has exerted good amount of pressure on all SAARC countries to toe the line. Its a pity that tiny Maldives which depends on Indian help for everything from water crises to rescue from coups is being the holdout. Maldives has no economic or military relationship with Pukis. There are two possibilities as to why Maldives would choose to be the sole holdout:

1. Current Maldivian President is an islamist and may want to help out his birather Pukistan.
2. Cheen could have exerted its substantial influence on Maldives to remain the holdout.

Going forward, India would need to ensure that right sane leaders get to power in Maldives. They currently have a rabid anti-Indian Chinese pasand President and Pro-India ex President has been thrown behind bars.

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 30 Sep 2016 17:07

As per zee news, Maldives have pulled out of saarc summit.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/saa ... 35387.html

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 30 Sep 2016 17:17

With such a robust diplomatic and multifaceted response, GOI is putting the ball back into PA court.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 30 Sep 2016 17:18

I guess after SriLanka pulled out, if they continued to resist, it would come across as overtly siding with Pukistan. In that respect Sri Lanka and Maldives have both demonstrated that they want to remain neutral and didn't condemn Puki terrorism in strong terms.

Anyways, a great humiliation for Pakistan. Imagine you being the rotational host in a club, and when it is your turn the host the annual party, everyone pulls out of the party because your arch enemy is pissed with you. Where is their Pakjabi H&D? No mention of all countries pulling out of SAARC in dawn first page! dawn used to not be such a shameless govt mouthpiece. I remember reading dawn during Kargil war where op-ed after op-ed lamented poor decision of Pakistan leadership in getting their country into the war. Now it acts as free press for Puki Army. what a fall.

arun · Post by **arun** » 30 Sep 2016 17:19

Dilbu wrote:SAARC summit: Sri Lanka joins India, 3 others in boycott; Pakistan isolated
Bangladesh, Bhutan, Afghanistan and now Sri Lanka. The Indian campaign to isolate Pakistan in the aftermath of Uri attack has worked with Sri Lanka becoming the fourth country today confirming that it will not participate in the annual SAARC summit which is scheduled in November this year in Islamabad.
Sri Lankan ministry of Foreign Affairs, in official communication sent to SAARC chair Nepal today said, "Sri Lanka regrets that the prevailing environment in the region is not conducive for holding the 19th SAARC Summit in Islamabad on November 9 and 10 2016.

The H&D ie: Honour & Dignity of the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan has taken yet another battering

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The Full Text of Official Sri Lanka communique follows for good order. It says that “the prevailing environment in the region is not conducive for holding the 19th SAARC Summit in Islamabad”. Sri Lanka concludes by saying she “condemns terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, and stresses in this regard, the need to deal with the issue of terrorism in the region in a decisive manner.”

Mention of Terrorism in Sri Lanka’s statement I think is significant in that it echoes India, Afghanistan and Bhutans pointing at Pakistan.

With this pull out from the Islamabad Summit, that leaves Maldives and present SAARC Chair Nepal who might join the Islamic Republic in Islamabad:

Sri Lanka’s participation in the 19th SAARC Summit scheduled for November 2016 in Islamabad

Sri Lanka regrets that the prevailing environment in the region is not conducive for holding the 19th SAARC Summit in Islamabad on 9th and 10th November 2016.

The General Provisions of the SAARC Charter require that decisions at all levels shall be taken on the basis of unanimity, and this applies to the convening of meetings of Heads of State or Government of SAARC Member States as well.

Peace and security are essential elements for the success of meaningful regional cooperation for the benefit of the people of South Asia. As a founding member of SAARC, committed to regional cooperation, Sri Lanka hopes that the steps required to ensuring our region’s peace and security will be taken to create an environment that is conducive for the pursuit of regional cooperation.

Sri Lanka condemns terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, and stresses in this regard, the need to deal with the issue of terrorism in the region in a decisive manner.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Colombo
30 September 2016

From here:

MOFA, Sri Lanka

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 30 Sep 2016 18:28

I am not making this up. Haram link but still..... https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/153839 ... -programme

Zaid Hamid maligns judges, scholars on TV programme

Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (Pemra) Council of Complaints (CoC), Lahore, has recommended imposition of fine amounting to Rs200,000 on Neo TV on failure to edit programme “Tabdeeli” in which defamatory remarks were made against politicians, scholars, advocates, judges and journalists by Zaid Hamid alias Lal Topi Wala

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 30 Sep 2016 19:36

After Khooja's insane rant, it struck me (surgically) that the next coup by the TSPA could very easily be a tactickle nook thrown on the Islamabad parliament. So simple.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 30 Sep 2016 20:51

arun wrote:
The H&D ie: Honour & Dignity of the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan has taken yet another battering :
With this pull out from the Islamabad Summit, that leaves Maldives and present SAARC Chair Nepal who might join the Islamic Republic in Islamabad:

Actually according to news reports Maldives too could not resist kicking H&D..

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Sep 2016 20:59

rajpa wrote:After Khooja's insane rant, it struck me (surgically) that the next coup by the TSPA could very easily be a tactickle nook thrown on the Islamabad parliament. So simple.

Pak jihadi officers could launch a coup against the Sharifs(good (Nawaz), bad(Shebaz) and ugly(Raheel)) who let them down.
this is the coup everyone is waiting for.

Objective will be to gain control of nooks not under US proximate security.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 30 Sep 2016 21:04

Another sign-post in the Baki-Cheen dosti approaching shortly.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 169205.ece
China’s stand on Pakistan terrorism will be clearer at U.N. next week

China’s move in the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) was at the instance of Pakistan, and unless it positively decides to extend the hold, it expires on Monday after a six-month period. China can extend the ‘hold’ by three more months, or block the move altogether.

If the hold lapses due to Chinese inaction, Azhar will be designated a terrorist by the U.N. Pakistan will face the embarrassment of hosting another U.N. designated terrorist and face international pressure for action against him.

<snip>

All members of the 15-member Security Council barring China have supported the move, cosponsored by the United States, the United Kingdom and France. China has earlier also delayed moves against Pakistan-based terror groups such as Jamaat-ud-Dawa and Lashkar-e-Taiba.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Sep 2016 21:16

Didn't Kaptaan claim bravely that he would teach Modi a lesson today? So far, there is not even a whimper from him.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 30 Sep 2016 21:24

ramana wrote:Objective will be to gain control of nooks not under US proximate security.

Then they can expect a surgical strike from the US itself. Noway the US will allow such elements take control of nukes.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 30 Sep 2016 23:09

Any chance that Ganja Sherif dismisses Raw Sherif on account of "sleeping on guard"?

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 30 Sep 2016 23:19

Hindustan times online has 4 editorials, 3 about S stikes and all 3 are pro-Bakistani. National media is seriously compromised.

GShankar · Post by **GShankar** » 30 Sep 2016 23:28

rsingh wrote:Hindustan times online has 4 editorials, 3 about S stikes and all 3 are pro-Bakistani. National media is seriously compromised.

It might as well be paid news

disha · Post by **disha** » 01 Oct 2016 00:24

SwamyG wrote: Exactly, Congress just went down in 2014. Hope Pakistan goes down quietly without fanfare. And two nation theory will be flushed down the drain.

Just to point out., the two-nation theory was flushed down Pakistan in 1971 itself.

Vadivel · Post by **Vadivel** » 01 Oct 2016 00:33

rsingh wrote:Any chance that Ganja Sherif dismisses Raw Sherif on account of "sleeping on guard"?

You are kidding, right?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Oct 2016 00:41

http://www.newsx.com/nation-at-9/42509- ... kes-charge
Pakistan now openly called TSP =Terrorist state of Pakistan. I guess Hakeem can take a bow. And TF explaining the armed Qabila nature of Paki waiting for opportunity to do Ghajawa.

disha · Post by **disha** » 01 Oct 2016 00:58

Can we say "Bakistan got sterilization surgery in 2016"? Counting on BRFites to come up with various ways to associate Bakistan with sterilization surgery.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 01 Oct 2016 01:03

May I suggest "NASR-bandhi" (due credit to Karan M ji who said something similar in one of his posts).

All this time the Pakis used nukes, and recently tactical nukes, as the main currency of their terrorist blackmail against India. Their claim was "we will do anything we like in terms of destabilizing India by sub-conventional means, and if they retaliate by conventional means, we will respond with tactical nukes leading to full-scale nuclear holocaust"

Symbolic of the whole charade was NASR, the supposed tactical nuclear missile they have begun to deploy in large numbers. Since they can no longer polish NASR to prove their invincible Momeen mardangi, the charade is over. They have undergone an involuntary vasectomy... NASRbandhi

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 01 Oct 2016 01:17

rsingh wrote:Any chance that Ganja Sherif dismisses Raw Sherif on account of "sleeping on guard"?

the chances of Ganja being dismissed are much higher.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 01 Oct 2016 01:27

One strategic outcome of the 28/9 strike is likely to be the dismissal of Ganja Sharif yet again, and another coup heralding another military dictatorship in the Baki political lifecycle (where is the Mongolian these days, BTW?)

I wonder if this was Modi's plan all along. First, set up Ganja Sharif by inviting him to the swearin- in in 2014, and paying him a Happy Budday visit in 2015... thus making the PA/ISI very angry and suspicious of him. Then expose him before the UNGA as someone who supports terrorists and toes the PA/ISI line as if taking instruction from his masters. Finally, create a situation (28/9) where Ganja Sharif becomes the most convenient scapegoat for a PA/ISI that is foaming at the mouth with impotent rage.

Was this a long-term strategy? I can think of one benefit. A favorite line of the Aman-ki-Hashish Pak-pasand vermin in our "civil society" chattering classes is that we should not take any assertive stand against Pakistan because it "weakens the democratically elected government and the political class and strengthens the hand of the army". Now we know very well (and MAD do too) that the political class and democratic PM of Bakistan are nothing but water-carriers for the army and have no power anyway. So why not blow the lid off the charade?

Get rid of the facade of TSP's democratically-elected political leadership. Let the Army expose itself as the true face of authority in Pakistan, not some unaccountable remote-control entity like Sonia Gandhi. Combined with the willingness to escalate and punish the Paki military with surgical strikes, etc. this makes the game much easier from our point of view. The PA makes the calls openly, not hiding behind some proxy figure like Ganja. When we act against Pakistan we act against ALL of Pakistan, as represented by the PA... by ALL means including military, diplomatic, and economic, all of which will hurt the PA directly. We will have removed a layer of diplomatic/public-perception armor that the PA used to hide behind.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 01 Oct 2016 02:11

Surgical strikes across LoC in Pakistan were filmed, videos kept as proof

New Delhi: The surgical strikes by special armed forces across the Line of Control (LoC) in Pakistan territory last night during which at least seven terror launch pads were completely destroyed were recorded on cameras.

Media reports quoted top government sources in saying that the video of surgical strike against Pakistan-based terrorists were recorded. The Army has kept it as a proof.

However, those videos will not be made public, the sources said.

Only the government and armed forces can decide whether and when to release the footage, sources added.

Sending a clear message to Pakistan in the wake of the Uri attack, the government declared on Thursday that the special armed forces carried out surgical strikes on terrorist launch pads across the Line of Control on Wednesday night, inflicting heavy casualties.

Sources said that the operation was a combination of heliborne and ground forces, and seven terror launch pads were destroyed in the strike across LoC.

The sources said the operation began at around mid-night last night and ended at around 4:30 am. The terror launch pads targeted were in the range of 2 to 3 km from the Line of Control(LoC) and were under surveillance for over one week, the sources said.

The operation by the Indian Army has left Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif rattled. Pakistan has dismissed as "fabrication of truth" India's claim that it has conducted a military operation across the LoC, terming it as a "quest" by India to create media hype by rebranding cross-border fire as a surgical strike.

Eleven days after terrorists killed 18 Indian soldiers in Jammu and Kashmir, Indian Special Forces targeted "some terrorist teams" positioned at launch pads on the LoC, Lt Gen Ranbir Singh, the Director General Military Operations (DGMO), told the media here. External Affairs Ministry spokesman Vikas Swarup was also present at the press conference.

Cheers

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 01 Oct 2016 02:38

Rudradev wrote:One strategic outcome of the 28/9 strike is likely to be the dismissal of Ganja Sharif yet again, and another coup heralding another military dictatorship in the Baki political lifecycle (where is the Mongolian these days, BTW?)

I agree 400%. No Pakistani head of government can survive after a bad showing with India, as it ultimately shows the army in a bad light. He has no support base in the army. They will blame him for bad leadership and absolve the military. He will have to go soon. Modi after MMS means a lot of change in thinking that the Pakistani leadership is not used to. Modi played him like a fiddle. But Ganja Saab has not done bad, I am sure he has salted away 100's of millions of dollars abroad for his retirement. If he survives the coming turmoil, he will have a chance to enjoy this. If I remember right, he got his granddaughter married to a minor Saudi royalty. For a Punjabi Mussalman that itself is worth Behest. What more can a Pakistani want?
Gautam