Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 03 Oct 2016 11:58

asgkhan wrote:No convincing needed for Bakis or baki proxies in India.

Videos needs to be released for the yindoos to savor the butt r@pe of the bakis. All those idiots who come out of the woodwork questioning the evidence need to be appropriately labeled as goat lover and done the needfull.

Khan Sa'ab, I know there is no convincing needed. I was merely pointing out the irony that our Aman Ki Tamasha types are fighting for Pakistani Actors while Pakistan has been blaming Actors from its soil for all sorts of Terrorism in India. Swara Bhaskar , Salman, Karan Johar and likes definitely don not realise how dangerous these Pakistani actors are if you changed their dress.

partha · Post by **partha** » 03 Oct 2016 12:50

GShankar wrote:^^
Do you think the govt. don't know all that? especially this time? I am pretty sure I either read or heard the someone officially say we have captured alive someone(s) worthwhile. I'll update what I can find. Others, please chime in if you remember.

"wait and watch", says Rajnath Singh regarding evidence. I just found that intriguing! Also note that GoI initially announced a 2nd press conference to be held in the evening on the day of the first press conference but later cancelled it. What was planned to be announced in the 2nd press conference?

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 03 Oct 2016 14:28

On ARY news last night Per Mussharraf accepted that India has succeeded in isolating Pakistan diplomatically. Across world Pak has been isolated and comes across as weak! He further said UN is a place where influence works and India is far more influential : they have coccus in their favour.
Actually he gave lot of left handed compliment to India.

Will post link once on you tube.
Apparently arrow has hit the target after surgical strike.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 03 Oct 2016 15:40

http://www.financialexpress.com/india-n ... ia/403047/

Pervez Musharraf’s big eye-opener for Nawaz Sharif; admits Pakistan has been globally isolated by India

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 03 Oct 2016 15:46

IndraD wrote:http://www.financialexpress.com/india-n ... ia/403047/

Pervez Musharraf’s big eye-opener for Nawaz Sharif; admits Pakistan has been globally isolated by India

May be Mushy is setting up Ganja for failure so that PA can invade isloo with its tanks.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 03 Oct 2016 16:39

The narrative that is taking hold is that Pakistan is in complete denial; and Pakistan's friends have contributed to that dangerous state of affairs.

MohdKav · Post by **MohdKav** » 03 Oct 2016 17:00

Security Scan- Global Response to Terror (Uri Attack)

Rajya Sabha TV
Cmd. Uday Bhaskar, Dr. Christine Fair, Fmr. AMB TCA Raghavan and Dr. Jabid Jacob

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 03 Oct 2016 17:19

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... s-3062311/
Pakstan denial suits us and we shall change our future strategy as needed - IA

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 03 Oct 2016 17:27

No need to release any video. Not yet. Those asking for it are baiting us.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 03 Oct 2016 17:31

We know our army. We respect its credibility. I am sure all our strategic partners are briefed sufficiently. Only pakistanis and likes of kejri want to see the video. Fk them.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 03 Oct 2016 17:38

LINE OF CONTROL: The Pakistan Army said on Saturday that escalation and provocation was not in anyone’s interest as it launched a media blitzkrieg to challenge Indian claim of having conducted surgical strikes in Azad Kashmir to neutralise alleged “terrorism launch pads”./b]
“Escalation and war mongering do not suit anyone. We neither escalated nor want to increase tensions; all the war rhetoric has been from the Indian side,” Director General of the Inter-Services Public Relations Lt Gen Asim Bajwa told journalists at a forward command post on the Line of Control (LoC).Apart from receiving briefings by regional commanders and the military spokesman, the journalists also interacted with the locals, who denied having any knowledge of surgical strikes or any other suspicious activity on the night between Wednesday and Thursday.Gen Bajwa told reporters that no “signature of any surgical strike” could be found which meant that there was no reality in the Indian claims.He challenged India to be transparent and open about its claim. Pakistan Army, he recalled, was cooperating with a United Nations probe into ceasefire violations that occurred on Sept 28-29 along the 250km LoC, and had brought media there for investigating the Indian claims. “Why are they not allowing their own people to scrutinise the claims?” he wondered.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1287481/escala ... -says-army

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 Oct 2016 17:52

1. Desperation to discredit an Indian action by flying in foreign media.
2. Stone throwing during the Wagha nautanki. Threats to India/Modi floated to India on balloons, etc.
3. Every story originating in India is being twisted to dis-prove the Indian action.

Seems at least some/many of the mango apduls are not convinced by ISPR so extra effort is being put in. Baki army is feeling the humiliation of the their chaddi being pulled down publicly.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 03 Oct 2016 18:00

Recent Iview of Tarek Fatah on Janta Ki Adalat-Pakstan is built on lies & deceit

Vivasvat · Post by **Vivasvat** » 03 Oct 2016 18:03

shiv wrote:^^

Could Hafiz Saeed have been taken out by surg strike which is now being called heart attack?

Most likely now his usefulness has become less than the international kick to Paki H&D upon his calls to strike India.

arun · Post by **arun** » 03 Oct 2016 18:23

X Posted from the “India-Russia: News & Analysis” thread.

Video of CNN-News 18 interview of Alexander M Kadakin, Russia’s Ambassador to India.

All in all pretty supportive of India.

Note:
A.His stressing that the Uri attack came from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
B.Call on the Islamic Republic to cease cross border terror
C.Support for India’s surgical strike
D.Use of term "Pakistan-Occupied Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir"
E.Falling in line with India and terming terrorism as the greatest human right violation just as India has done at the UN
F.Comment that the Uniformed Jihadis of Pakistani army “use itself for terror attacks against India”:

Youtube - Clicky

Text of the accompanying article put out by CNN-News 18 follows:

New Delhi: Backing India’s surgical strikes against terror camps in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (PoK) the Russian ambassador to India, Alexander M Kadakin, said that Russian Federation was the only country to say in plain words that terrorists came from Pakistan.

In an exclusive interview with CNN News18, he called upon Pakistan to stop trans-border terror.

He said that his country had always been with India in fighting cross-border terrorism.

“Greatest Human Rights violations take place when terrorists attack military installations and attack peaceful civilians in India. We welcome the surgical strike. Every country has right to defend itself,” said the Russian Ambassador.

Assuring India that it does not need to worry about Russia-Pakistan joint military exercise, he said the exercises didn't take place in "Pakistan-Occupied Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir".

The usage of the word/term “Pakistan-Occupied Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir” assumes a lot of importance.

“India should not be concerned about military exercises between Russia and Pakistan because the theme of the exercise is anti-terror fighting. That's in India’s interests that we teach Pakistani army not to use itself for terror attacks against India. And the exercise was not held in any sensitive or problematic territories like Pakistan-occupied Indian state of Jammu," said the Russian Ambassador.

Here:

Clicky

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 Oct 2016 20:32

pankajs wrote:1. Desperation to discredit an Indian action by flying in foreign media.
2. Stone throwing during the Wagha nautanki. Threats to India/Modi floated to India on balloons, etc.
3. Every story originating in India is being twisted to dis-prove the Indian action.

Seems at least some/many of the mango apduls are not convinced by ISPR so extra effort is being put in. Baki army is feeling the humiliation of the their chaddi being pulled down publicly.

hear is another istory.. Revenge for a strike that did not happun.
http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report- ... es-2261028
National Green Tribunal website hacked; claimed Pak revenge for Indian surgical strikes

see ... at least some mango do not trust ISPR. Modi has successfully uploaded a virus into the mango baki mind. This and other such incidents are proof enough of the impact is being felt across the border in spite of the antics of Bak army.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 03 Oct 2016 20:45

The spate of terror attacks since yesterday by Pakistan is to trap IA by making us act in haste somewhere.

habal · Post by **habal** » 03 Oct 2016 20:47

Modi should directly address to pakistani people. He should try to gain their goodwill thus, a good 40% will immidiately fall for it.

for eg before bombing pindi he should say thus,

'mere masoom pakistaniyon, tumhaari fauj ki jarihiyat ke kaaran mujhe yeh karyawahi karni pad rahi hain .. november 5th ke baad pindi chod do .. wahan bura hone wala hain .. aur aap uske zimmedaar nahin hain.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Oct 2016 20:56

shiv wrote:^^

Could Hafiz Saeed have been taken out by surg strike which is now being called heart attack?

When time comes TSPA themselves will kill Hafiz Suar and claim the reward.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 03 Oct 2016 21:13

That's in India’s interests that we teach Pakistani army not to use itself for terror attacks against India.

Huh.. what ??

I didn't know the Russian contingent sent there was just a Psychological unit conducting anti-indoctrination sessions on the uniformed Jehadis

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 03 Oct 2016 22:27

IndraD wrote:http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... s-3062311/
Pakstan denial suits us and we shall change our future strategy as needed - IA

Bakis being Bakis might be thinking ........ya Alllah we should never do anything that suits Indian Army.........ok lets do not deny it

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 03 Oct 2016 22:30

pankajs wrote:
pankajs wrote:1. Desperation to discredit an Indian action by flying in foreign media.
2. Stone throwing during the Wagha nautanki. Threats to India/Modi floated to India on balloons, etc.
3. Every story originating in India is being twisted to dis-prove the Indian action.

Seems at least some/many of the mango apduls are not convinced by ISPR so extra effort is being put in. Baki army is feeling the humiliation of the their chaddi being pulled down publicly.
hear is another istory.. Revenge for a strike that did not happun.
http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report- ... es-2261028
National Green Tribunal website hacked; claimed Pak revenge for Indian surgical strikes

see ... at least some mango do not trust ISPR. Modi has successfully uploaded a virus into the mango baki mind. This and other such incidents are proof enough of the impact is being felt across the border in spite of the antics of Bak army.

Never knew we had National Green Tribunal..........what do they do?

RamSuresh · Post by **RamSuresh** » 03 Oct 2016 22:54

We should never release the video.

Everytime a Paki stooge roars that they have a nuclear bomb, we should keep a stiff lip and say, we have a video.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 03 Oct 2016 23:21

Here's another video discussion with Tarek Fatah at a forum named "War & Peace"

Makes one wonder what is wrong with our lefty loonies. They will never call a spade a spade and quoting Gandhi is fashionable. Especially the parts by Rajni Bakshi or whoever the hell she is

And that giant ass of a person Meghnad Desai. Tarek cuts him down to size.....LOL

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 03 Oct 2016 23:35

I have been inactive for 10 odd years and this is my first post since then. Feels good to be back.

I fully trust the Indian side of the story. Pakistan is a fly-by-night operator for whom "reputation" is an afterthought. For us, on the other hand, reputation is a civilizational concept, and something which know we will have to live with for the foreseeable future.

The bigger powers - China/US/Russia/UK - have enough intel on the ground to know if we are bluffing. If we were to bluff, we lose credibility & reputation with these powers, which is suicidal - especially with China. It is worse than doing nothing, for instance directly shoot down any chance we have of Security Council membership. I don't think anyone - any major political party, or IA - will squander our reputation for the sake of few brownie points with Indian public.

Even more significant is Pakistan. If we are bluffing, it fully vets Pak army hallucination of 1 pakjabi = 10 kafirs. The power of force is in following through with it. Bluffing will embolden Pakistan into a worse misadventure, and I am sure GoI knows very well that it will do more harm than good.

Third factor is the identified units which carried out the raids. Truth cannot be hidden forever in India, and sooner or later someone will speak up if the raids didn't happen. These units had all the motivation to extract revenge - at the lowest levels of the hierarchy, it is very much "khoon ka badla khoon" and "izzat". Nothing can be more demoralizing to a jawan in Dogra/Bihar than in learning that the surgical strike was a bluff.

Finally a comment on releasing evidence. Pakis being the inveterate liars they are will never accept evidence even if is shown in IMAX format. But it's always a good idea to keep them squirming by announcing that we will release evidence at a time of our choosing. It's nice to see them writhe in discomfort. And no, we should never release the evidence. Unless we have a photo like Gen Niazi signing surrender papers, there is no point releasing night vision footage of burning pig stys.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 03 Oct 2016 23:52

Genuine Pakistani artistes who want a career in India can apply for Indian citizenship.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 03 Oct 2016 23:57

X Posted on the PESW Thread

Gurus, Maulanars and BRFites All,

I trust you have noticed the Indian Govt. and Business Community anxious for Pakistani Access to overland Trade with Afghanistan and the Five CARs in 2015-2016.

I have checked with the Ministry of Commerce D. G. F. T. and find that the Total Exports to Afghanistan and the Five CARs is US$ 889.05 Million of which Afghanistan takes US$ 526.60 million and Kazakhstan US$ 151.91 Million. The other Four take a Total of 210.54

The total Exports to the Six Countries are US$ 764.83 Million of which Imports from Afghanistan are US$ 307.90 Million and from Kazakhstan are 352.93 Million. Imports the remaining Four is a mere US$ 104 Million.

If India receives Land Transit Facilities to Afghanistan and the Five CARs then India will have to give Land Transit Facilities to Cwapistan for Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh and may be to Myanmar.

Can India afford the Risk of giving Land Transit Facilities to Cwapistan?

Note :
Exports to Cwapistan in 2015-2016 were US$ 2.17114 Billion and Imports from Cwapistan were US$ 0.44103 Billion.
Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 04 Oct 2016 00:04

A_Gupta wrote:Genuine Pakistani artistes who want a career in India can apply for Indian citizenship.

A_Gupta Ji :

Why do you want to give Indian Citizenship to Cwapistanis - Artists or whatever? They will be the Eternal Fifth Columnists in India!

Cheers

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 04 Oct 2016 00:29

Sounds like Pakis being Pakis

Only On 2: O.C. Woman Says Airline Made Her Move Because 2 Pakistani Monks Can’t Sit Next To Female
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/09/ ... to-female/

My question is, who are these "monks"? News sources are making it sound like it was Buddhist or Hindu. There are no Buddhists in Pakistan.

GShankar · Post by **GShankar** » 04 Oct 2016 01:34

KJo wrote:Sounds like Pakis being Pakis

Only On 2: O.C. Woman Says Airline Made Her Move Because 2 Pakistani Monks Can’t Sit Next To Female
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/09/ ... to-female/

My question is, who are these "monks"? News sources are making it sound like it was Buddhist or Hindu. There are no Buddhists in Pakistan.

Yes, per the article - Pakistani monks who were wearing long orange shirts

Something is definitely off.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 04 Oct 2016 01:36

Escalation not in anyone’s interest, says army

Cheers

James B · Post by **James B** » 04 Oct 2016 02:06

State of Denial in Pakistan is all the way up to Paki Elites. Even Hajam Sethi believes no Surgical Strike happened (or told to parrot it in Media).

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 04 Oct 2016 02:24

Peregrine wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:Genuine Pakistani artistes who want a career in India can apply for Indian citizenship.
A_Gupta Ji :

Why do you want to give Indian Citizenship to Cwapistanis - Artists or whatever? They will be the Eternal Fifth Columnists in India!
Cheers

They can apply - this should satisfy all those "Pakistani artistes are not terrorists" types.
Applications need not be granted.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 04 Oct 2016 02:29

^^^ This article says the two monks were Buddhist.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/-730466--.html

The men’s garb indicates they are Buddhist. Despite the Dalai Lama’s comfort with hugging and shaking hands with men and women alike, some Buddhist monks adhere to age-old tenets advising they shouldn’t touch women. Several other religions follow similar beliefs.

Yet there is an ancient Buddhist story that offers a lesson and goes something like this: An old monk and a young monk come upon a woman stuck on the bank of a river. The old monk offers to pick her up and carries her across.

The young monk thinks about what he saw. Finally, he asks how the senior monk could even think of touching a woman.

“I set her down,” the old monk explains. “You are still carrying her.”

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 04 Oct 2016 02:41

For UK citizens or residents. Please sign:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/168107

Petition to:
UK Govt to strongly condemn Pakistan for providing safe haven for terrorists

Pakistan continues to double speak on issue of terrorism. It has aided & abetted enemies of the international coalition (of which Britain is a leading partner with the US) against terrorism. Osama Bin Laden's hide out was in Pakistan. Pakistan continues to harbour UN sanctioned terror networks.

The Inter-Services Intelligence has often been accused of playing a role in major terrorist attacks across the world including the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States, terrorism in Kashmir, Indian Parliament Attack and Mumbai terror attacks. It has been noted by many that several militant & criminal groups are backed by senior officers in the Pakistani army & the country's ISI intelligence establishment. Daniel Byman says Pakistan is probably today's most active sponsor of terrorism.

The previous petition (to declare Pak as terrorist state) was rejected, the reason given was that UK Parliament does "not declare a state a terrorist state"..They asked "may be it can be reworded so that UK Govt can take a "specific stand"..
(It has already reached 10,000+ signatures so UK has to respond. It needs 100,000 signatures before March 2017 and the issue has to be debated in UK.

Meanwhile Pakis are getting beating (justified, of course) in US congress, US social media and among policy makers (except some rags like NYT). In spite of heavy lobbying by Pak, they are being told by their own friends - in effect "be quite and suck it up". Many US congressmen have come-out and explicitly supported India's right for surgical strike and self-defense.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 04 Oct 2016 03:57

A_Gupta wrote:
They can apply - this should satisfy all those "Pakistani artistes are not terrorists" types.
Applications need not be granted.

Did any one upto this point question any of these Paki artists on their hypocrisy of signing a declaration that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a impostor prophet and his followers the ahmedis are non-Muslims and then coming to India and demanding tolerance for their crossborder "art" ?

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 04 Oct 2016 03:59

Pakistanis losing out in hunt for jobs abroad

ISLAMABAD: For Pakistanis, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are still the leading providers of employment outside their country. This is largely true even though job opportunities are shrinking for a Pakistani workforce due to increasing demand for highly skilled human resource.

Last year, a total of 947,718 workers landed jobs abroad out of which a little more than half, or 522,932, secured jobs in Saudi Arabia which amounts to 55.17 per cent of the total workforce sent abroad, according to statistics submitted in the Senate by Minister for Overseas Pakistanis and Human Resources Pir Syed Sadaruddin Shah Rashidi.

Another 326,995 persons were sent to the UAE for employment purposes — forming 34.50 per cent of the total workforce. Statistically, Saudi Arabia and UAE together hosted around 90 per cent of the total Pakistani workforce sent overseas.

Available statistics show that Pakistanis rarely find job opportunities in developed countries including the United States and Britain. Pakistani workers are also exploring African countries for possible jobs.

Malaysia and Qatar are some other countries that offer job opportunities to Pakistanis. Malaysia provided jobs to 20,218 Pakistanis while Qatar gave employment to 12,751 Pakistanis last year. Another Arab country Bahrain provided jobs to 9,048 Pakistanis.

War-hit Yemen accommodated 24 Pakistanis last year while Somalia provided jobs to 23 Pakistanis. Another African country Uganda hosted 37 Pakistanis by giving them job in 2015. Guinea, Jordan, Kenya, Kuwait, Lebanon, Nigeria, Libya, Oman, Sudan and some other countries also provided jobs to Pakistani workers.

These statistics show that Algeria hosted 211 Pakistani workers while the southern African nation, Angola provided jobs to 22 Pakistanis. Azerbaijan provided jobs to just eight persons and Cameroon provided jobs to two Pakistanis. These statistics maintains that 355 persons were sent to China and Cyprus employed 500 Pakistani last year.

Germany provided jobs to 44 Pakistanis, Greece two, Hong Kong 29, Italy 431, Japan 84, Singapore 68, South Africa 140, South Korea 734, Sweden 34, Switzerland 15, Turkey 57, UK 261 and USA provided jobs to 350 Pakistanis.

He said during that era a large segment of the Pakistani workforce, mostly unskilled labour, got employment in countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar.

“However, as advanced and developed countries need highly skilled workers, Pakistanis cannot get many job opportunities in countries like the US, UK, Australia and others,” he added.

Cheers

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 04 Oct 2016 04:34

Kashi, shiv, partha, hnair, pankajs, et al - bash me all you want; I like to state things as they are, not as I wish them to be. I'm just as much a jingo as the rest of you, but a realistic one. I keep an eye on the western\globalist press (CNN, BBC, Reuters, etc) to see what propaganda the enemy is pushing. The prevailing narrative from the outside is basically neutral:

India: We conducted surgical strikes, believe me.
Pakistan: No you didn't.
India: Yes we did.
Pakistan: Did not!
India: Did, too!

For example:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-india ... SKCN1200UT

A police officer in the Poonch region told the BBC's Aurangzeb Jarral that Indian artillery targeted some Pakistani military posts across the Buttal region, and two Pakistani soldiers were killed.

In the Bhimber, Leepa and Neelum valley regions, several eyewitnesses reported cross-border shelling - but, crucially, none said they saw any aerial or ground incursions by Indian troops.

Hey at least the western press isn't really denying Paki terrorism any more...

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 04 Oct 2016 05:12

Y. Kanan wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-india ... SKCN1200UT

A police officer in the Poonch region told the BBC's Aurangzeb Jarral

BBC's Aurangzeb Jarral....!!! He is actually a reporter for Channel 24 News (Pakistan), and FM 105.4 Voice of Kashmir Radio and freelances for BBC. How objective can he be? How did he get to interview a police officer in Poonch? Hain jee?

Would you now trust him?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Oct 2016 05:25

Hafiz Suar is supposed to be suffering a heart attack and is in Rawalpindi.

I think TSPA induced a heart attack just like in Mullah Omar to please China which doesn't not want to keep stalling the UN vote on him.

This way they don't have to give up Hafiz to India.