Army strikes terror camps in PoK

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Oct 2016 21:30

Washington: America is "no longer a world power" and Pakistan would move towards China and Russia if its views on Kashmir and India are not considered, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's envoys threatened in Washington.

"(The) US is no longer a world power. It is a declining power. Forget about it," Nawaz Sharif's envoy on Kashmir, Mushahid Hussain Syed said yesterday after the conclusion of an interaction at the Atlantic Council, one of the top American think-tanks.

Mr Syed and Shazra Mansab, another Pakistani envoy on Kashmir, are in the US as part of the Pakistan's efforts to get attention to their claim on Kashmir.

Mr Syed went to the extent to warn the United States that Pakistan would move towards China and Russia if its views on Kashmir and India are not considered.

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He was responding to a question from a member in the audience after the conclusion of the 90-minute interaction during which he expressed his frustration over the lack of response Pakistan has received to their claim on Kashmir.

Though Mr Syed's remarks were not recorded on camera, it was heard prominently by everyone in the audience.

He then quickly pointed out China as Pakistan's friend and spoke of a newly perceived relationship with Russia, which he had mentioned during his interaction at the Atlantic Council.

Mr Syed also submitted a dossier against India to Special US Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Olson.

With absolutely no takers for Pakistan's claims on Kashmir, a frustrated Mr Syed said that China is now an important factor in South Asia and described Beijing as part of what he termed as Greater South Asia.

He went on to claim that "there has been slow and steady building of relationship between Moscow and Islamabad," referring to a recently held joint military exercise between Pakistan and Russia.

shyamm · Post by **shyamm** » 06 Oct 2016 21:31

On Newshour currently on, Congi Chamcha Rajeev Desai of "who cares about 1984" fame insults Gen GD Bakshi " you are not a soldier, but a propagandist"

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 06 Oct 2016 21:37

^^^^
There is a unanimous consensus in PakiLand that their future is with PRC and not with a so called declining USA. This is view which is held inside PPP and inside PML too.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 06 Oct 2016 21:38

shyamm wrote:On Newshour currently on, Congi Chamcha Rajeev Desai of "who cares about 1984" fame insults Gen GD Bakshi " you are not a soldier, but a propagandist"

Quite rich of him!

Rajiv Desai, Chairman & CEO. A pioneer in the communications profession, Rajiv Desai established India's first PR consulting firm, IPAN, in December 1987 when he relocated to Delhi after having spent the best part of the 1970s and 1980s in the United States.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 06 Oct 2016 21:40

Primus wrote:Came late to this party today. Not surprisingly, there is no mention of this landmark achievement by the IA on any of the major news outlets in the US. It did not make the top 20 on my iPhone news feed.

In telugu, there is a proverb which goes "tElu kuTTina donga" (a thief bitten by a scorpion). He has to bite his lip and suffer in silence. Both US and Pakis are doing that right now. It is possible the number is even higher than 40.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Oct 2016 21:42

matrimc wrote: In telugu, there is a proverb which goes "tElu kuTTina donga" (a thief bitten by a scorpion). He has to bite his lip and suffer in silence. Both US and Pakis are doing that right now. It is possible the number is even higher than 40.

I presume that you did see that this was the exact analogy used by Venkaiah Naidu
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opi ... 664884.cms

williams · Post by **williams** » 06 Oct 2016 21:43

Christopher Sidor wrote:^^^^
There is a unanimous consensus in PakiLand that their future is with PRC and not with a so called declining USA. This is view which is held inside PPP and inside PML too.

Until brand new Dronacharyas shows up in the West and after few months in the East

naruto · Post by **naruto** » 06 Oct 2016 21:51

shyamm wrote:On Newshour currently on, Congi Chamcha Rajeev Desai of "who cares about 1984" fame insults Gen GD Bakshi " you are not a soldier, but a propagandist"

Arnab has given it to him good. His face reflected he had done a mistake, but cannot accept because of his huge ego.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Oct 2016 21:59

It makes me angry that politics is being done on such a sensitive topic but these jibes will work in BJP's favor. Nothing to worry.

Gyan · Post by **Gyan** » 06 Oct 2016 22:01

Singha wrote:Washington: America is "no longer a world power" and Pakistan would move towards China and Russia if its views on Kashmir and India are not considered, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's envoys threatened in Washington.

"(The) US is no longer a world power. It is a declining power. Forget about it," Nawaz Sharif's envoy on Kashmir, Mushahid Hussain Syed said yesterday after the conclusion of an interaction at the Atlantic Council, one of the top American think-tanks.

Mr Syed and Shazra Mansab, another Pakistani envoy on Kashmir, are in the US as part of the Pakistan's efforts to get attention to their claim on Kashmir.

Mr Syed went to the extent to warn the United States that Pakistan would move towards China and Russia if its views on Kashmir and India are not considered.

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He was responding to a question from a member in the audience after the conclusion of the 90-minute interaction during which he expressed his frustration over the lack of response Pakistan has received to their claim on Kashmir.

Though Mr Syed's remarks were not recorded on camera, it was heard prominently by everyone in the audience.

He then quickly pointed out China as Pakistan's friend and spoke of a newly perceived relationship with Russia, which he had mentioned during his interaction at the Atlantic Council.

Mr Syed also submitted a dossier against India to Special US Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Olson.

With absolutely no takers for Pakistan's claims on Kashmir, a frustrated Mr Syed said that China is now an important factor in South Asia and described Beijing as part of what he termed as Greater South Asia.

He went on to claim that "there has been slow and steady building of relationship between Moscow and Islamabad," referring to a recently held joint military exercise between Pakistan and Russia.

Suar ki maut aati hai tu vho China ki taraf bhagata hai

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Oct 2016 22:04

The Americans must really be please what a wonderful munna they had.

If the reported *sequence* is true that means the bakis are not getting ANY traction anywhere. That comment is pure frustration. It seems like he did not even get a proper hearing.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 06 Oct 2016 22:12

"(The) US is no longer a world power. It is a declining power. Forget about it," Nawaz Sharif's envoy on Kashmir, Mushahid Hussain Syed said yesterday after the conclusion of an interaction at the Atlantic Council, one of the top American think-tanks

The beggar says the alms giver is not as rich as he was.

There will be a price to pay. Of course the Paki has made the usual half-veiled threat of US security is dependent on Pakistani goodwill.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Oct 2016 22:14

It is said that when you are in a hole the FIRST thing is that you stop digging. Seems the Bakis did not get the memo or they don't know to read.

How nice it must have sounded to the Americans to be threatened in their own house by a beggar.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 06 Oct 2016 22:17

pankajs wrote:It is said that when you are in a hole the FIRST thing is that you stop digging. Seems the Bakis did not get the memo or they don't know to read.

Well they have got to dig further to maintain their primacy in the pecking order within the kabila. Or others will dig their grave.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Oct 2016 22:27

Thinking about Mushahid Hussain's comment, it seems to me that somehow the Bakis have come to the conclusion that this is their last chance to do anything about kashmir with their H&D intact (mushRATs formula type thing).

Perhaps there is a realization that India's path will make it immune to ANY pressure from either US or China is a few years. Perhaps they can feel that LOC=IB is already out of the window and Modi will ultimately make an play for POK perhaps 5-7 years down the line.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 06 Oct 2016 22:34

If the Indian Army has goatnapped 20 odd jihadis and tabiz-walas, then Pak must be making plans to try and get them released.

They will try to do a hostage drama. Hijack a plane or take over a building or something like that.

Primus · Post by **Primus** » 06 Oct 2016 22:38

matrimc wrote:
Primus wrote:Came late to this party today. Not surprisingly, there is no mention of this landmark achievement by the IA on any of the major news outlets in the US. It did not make the top 20 on my iPhone news feed.
In telugu, there is a proverb which goes "tElu kuTTina donga" (a thief bitten by a scorpion). He has to bite his lip and suffer in silence. Both US and Pakis are doing that right now. It is possible the number is even higher than 40.

I grew up in Hyderabad, so although my Telugu is quite rusty now, I got that one alright

williams · Post by **williams** » 06 Oct 2016 22:39

Some nice details from India Today. I am thinking it should be govt approved intelligence leak.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/surg ... 81103.html

More details came to light today of the daring operation against terrorists by Indian Army para commandos behind enemy lines in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

Even as some politicians demand evidence on the surgical strike, India Today received fresh inputs from intelligence sources on the manner in which the commando operation was conducted.

HOW IT HAPPENED

Following approval from Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the DGMO activated the Special Forces units deployed under Northern Command.

The two units chosen for the task were the Udhampur-based 9 Para Commandos and the 4 Para Commandos. The commanders were told to provide their best ‘assault troops’ for covert strikes on terrorist launch pads which were being monitored closely by the local intelligence units in the Uri, Poonch and Bhimbher sector along the Line of Control.

The Special Forces squad comprised of four assault teams – a total of nearly 100 men. There were three assault teams and one weapons team with troopers who operate heavy weapons – including RPO7 flame throwers, PK machine guns captured from terrorists

and rocket launchers.The assault teams of 24 Special Forces operatives each from the 9 Para and the 4 Para were further divided into teams of 12 each. These small teams were pushed into PoK under the cover of darkness from four locations in Kel, Tutmari Gali, Nangi Tekri and Baalnoi post in Mendhar sector.

ARTILLERY COVER

The artillery units in the area provided support and cover to the Special Forces by shelling Pakistani posts across the 250-kilometre arch besides diverting the attention of the Pakistan Army posts.Around midnight, the troops began moving in to destroy identified launchpads which are used by terrorists as a waiting section. The commandos, in jungle camouflage, walked slowly using night-vision devices and night sights on their Israeli Tavor rifles.

LAUNCHPADS GUTTED

When troops reached villages housing the launchpads, they used the element of surprise to barge into buildings firing the Russian RPO7 flame throwers which created 3,000-degree Celsius temperatures in the building, causing massive explosions and destruction.

Overall, in the almost four-hour-long operations, four to five launchpads were attacked and the number of kills in these attacks is close to 50, sources said.

Following completion of the mission, the Special Forces informed the higher ranks who instructed them to use the same exfiltration routes that are used by the terrorists.

Once the troops returned, Army helicopters were sent to fetch the officers to take them to Udhampur and Nagrota for debriefing on the operation.

The government is of the view that though it doesn’t want to escalate the situation into a war, it also wants to be prepared for any eventuality considering the unstable situation in Pakistan, sources claimed.

Earlier today, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar held a meeting with three services chief where the Army, Air Force, and Navy listed critical shortages faced by them.

The Army Chief General Dalbir Singh Suhag also visited South Western Command in Jaipur today to review the operational plan and preparedness on Gujarat and Punjab border.

HIGHLIGHTS OF THE OPERATION
1. Top intelligence sources maintain number of causalities in the surgical strikes is around 50
2. The Special Forces team comprised of four assault teams, a total of nearly 100 men
3. The assault troops of 24 SF operatives each from the 9 Para (SF) and the 4 Para SF were further divided into teams of 12 each
4. The SF troops entered PoK under the cover of darkness from four locations in Kel, Tutmari Gali, Nangi Tekri and Baalnoi post in Mendhar sector
5. The SF troops reached the villages housing the launch pads and barged into the buildings firing the Russian RPO7 flame throwers
6. Post operation, the SF troops informed the higher ranks who instructed them to use the infiltration routes, used by the terrorists, to come back to their bases
7. Once the troops returned to their launch bases, Cheetah helicopters were sent to fetch the officers to take them to Udhampur and Nagrota

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 06 Oct 2016 22:41

WRT Massa and Munna.
It was only Massa's suspicion and fear of a rising India that kept them going to munna and keep it in their pay.

But India has broken free, the rise is meteoric indeed.
What a bloody fool Mushahid Hussain is! He thinks that he is bargaining for aalo pyaz, and has tried his last gambit (just like bhutto did during 71 at the UN), curse everyone, get up and leave.
The Pakistanis are working on the assumption, that very soon things will be back to their usual self, and Mushahid Hussain will become a Herrow of all Al Bakistanis till eternity for his brave stance against Massa!

They are more foolish than I imagined them to be - relying on China and Russia for support and friendship!!! While both nations are normal nations, no one in this world is going to stick their neck out for a terrorist criminal nation like Pakistan!

It will take them some time to realize that they are very close to this being the end of the road for them.

In the end, all it took was a surgical strike from india, ECHENDEE Loss at the hands of India for them to start to unravel. One wonders why our Idiot leaders of yore waited this long hain jee?

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 06 Oct 2016 22:42

Primus wrote:
matrimc wrote: In telugu, there is a proverb which goes "tElu kuTTina donga" (a thief bitten by a scorpion). He has to bite his lip and suffer in silence. Both US and Pakis are doing that right now. It is possible the number is even higher than 40.
I grew up in Hyderabad, so although my Telugu is quite rusty now, I got that one alright

isnt there something similar in all languages?

thirudanukku thel kottiyathu pola - is the tamil version.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 06 Oct 2016 22:43

deejay wrote:
The executive decision was of the Prime Minister. He delivered a key promise he made during election. He and his team can definitely take credit.

They are not taking the credit away from Indian Army at any stage.

Well PM Modi seems to disagree (as per reports). I think it brings us down to Paki levels when our higher-ups indulge in loose talk. It is better to wield a long stick but keep silent.

Bheeshma · Post by **Bheeshma** » 06 Oct 2016 22:46

I think it will be faster than 5-7 years.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 06 Oct 2016 22:51

KJo wrote:
deejay wrote:
The executive decision was of the Prime Minister. He delivered a key promise he made during election. He and his team can definitely take credit.

They are not taking the credit away from Indian Army at any stage.
Well PM Modi seems to disagree (as per reports). I think it brings us down to Paki levels when our higher-ups indulge in loose talk. It is better to wield a long stick but keep silent.

And you believe motivated reports from presstitutes saar?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Oct 2016 22:53

KJo wrote:
deejay wrote:
The executive decision was of the Prime Minister. He delivered a key promise he made during election. He and his team can definitely take credit.

They are not taking the credit away from Indian Army at any stage.
Well PM Modi seems to disagree (as per reports). I think it brings us down to Paki levels when our higher-ups indulge in loose talk. It is better to wield a long stick but keep silent.

Actually both can happen simultaneously.

Modi and his ministers, MPs and the big wigs in the party can maintain a dignified silence while the party carder can go to town about BJP/Modi's singular response to Baki's provocation.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 06 Oct 2016 23:04

If the pakistanis retaliate militarily, POK takeover could be as soon as next week!

But all said and done, this is a SF operation that is going to go down in the history of humankind as one of its kind.
One nuclear weapons power did a massive special forces op on a 'alleged / self styled / self claimed nuclear power'.
It must have been pretty complex to maintain secrecy, coordinate all the attack teams, keep an eye out for the Pakistani forces (they must have had assets in the sky and elsewhere, monitoring the Paki mil units and the SSG unit in the area)

The fear of the Indian Armed Forces is what made the SSG not enter the fight! A good decision by them, and they are all probably alive today because of this. A point that Pak Mil needs to take 'notuss of' and remember for future reference onlee.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 06 Oct 2016 23:10

Pakistan is very tenuously placed militarily in POK. The situation is not too different from their military wing in Bangladesh. That time around they attributed their loss and surrender to the fact that they were 2000 miles away from their home base west pakistan.

Their situation in POK is not entirely too different.
If they give the Indian army any opportunity, the Pakistanis can be made to capitulate very quickly.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 06 Oct 2016 23:16

Local population in POK is very smart.
They shout Pakistan Zindabad, the moment there is a TV camera or a fauji afsar around.
There is a strong undercurrent of silent hatred underneath.

The Kashmiris view the Pak Fauj as Pakjabi Oppressors who are milking them dry, looting all their resources. You will see this theme repeated again and again when you see their TV programs and talk to Kashmiris.

I've met a few mirpuris in the past - Shias, who stayed away from the Pakjabi boys. That hatred is pretty strong, I was surprised. I had expected mirpuris to be more aligned to Pakjab, while Gilgitis or Baltistianis to be more independent in this regard. Not quite it seems.

Mirpuris will openly say that Pakistan is taking their water and electricity from the Mangla Dam (which is just outside of Mirpur). Pundit Nehru and Abdulla conspired to not liberate Mirpur because of the Shias there in 47, where as G-B was allowed to be let go so that Britain could keep their listening post in Gilgit town, where they were keeping tabs on the Soviets

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 06 Oct 2016 23:18

pankajs wrote:
KJo wrote:
Well PM Modi seems to disagree (as per reports). I think it brings us down to Paki levels when our higher-ups indulge in loose talk. It is better to wield a long stick but keep silent.
Actually both can happen simultaneously.

Modi and his ministers, MPs and the big wigs in the party can maintain a dignified silence while the party carder can go to town about BJP/Modi's singular response to Baki's provocation.

Exactly and that's how it should be. BJP has every right to be proud that their leader delivered on his pre-election promise. At the same time, by not talking about it and maintaining a dignified silence, Modi is signalling to the public what the local Packees from AAP and Kangy land what they are.. just

jivana · Post by **jivana** » 06 Oct 2016 23:36

Couple of points:

Modi asked his 'Ministers' not to conduct any chest beatings. This could be interpreted that Onlee top ministers shouldn't do any gloating but its free for all as far as mango public is concerned, especially the SM warriors. Before the strikes, there was a lot of tana-baazi by the liberatti, aap, congi crowds about where did the 56" chaati go? Now, the shoe is in the other foot so no need to show any mercy to these traitors. They need to be kicked in the nuts constantly till they fall in line or disappear from the horizon.

Once, I had a paki on my team. In the beginning, we never discussed any politics less things got ugly. However, after a while we started with some light discussions. He hated the pakjabi army and all the shit they have done. Initially, I thought that he was politically correct given that I was his Boss. But when he told me he's shia I realised he wasn't BSing. The guy was a big fan of Bal Thackarey, which came as a big shock to me. Given that a lot of secularwadis hated his guts, here's a paki shia who was rooting for Bala sahab.

The point I wanted to make is there are multiple fault-lines in bakiland, we need to exploit each and every one. No forgiveness, no nobel prize, no mercy till this disease is eradicated from the face of earth.

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 07 Oct 2016 00:11

Washington: America is "no longer a world power" and Pakistan would move towards China and Russia if its views on Kashmir and India are not considered, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's envoys threatened in Washington.

"(The) US is no longer a world power. It is a declining power. Forget about it," Nawaz Sharif's envoy on Kashmir, Mushahid Hussain Syed said yesterday after the conclusion of an interaction at the Atlantic Council, one of the top American think-tanks.

Mr Syed and Shazra Mansab, another Pakistani envoy on Kashmir, are in the US as part of the Pakistan's efforts to get attention to their claim on Kashmir.

Mr Syed went to the extent to warn the United States that Pakistan would move towards China and Russia if its views on Kashmir and India are not considered.

Mushahid Hussain is an idiot.. I still remember his bluster from the Kargil days, he hasnt learnt any manners from the hiding he got then. I welcome this idiocy by the Pakis, will put the seal on the break between them and the sole super power.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 07 Oct 2016 00:15

Yagnasri wrote:Pappu made a statement saying "Khoon ki Dalali" going on or something to that effect in a political rally just now. Insulting IA and GOI now. Another "mouth ki saudagar" moment.

RaGa has been doing khoon ki dalali for years now, try to peddle the blood shed by his grandmother and father to further his political ambitions. He is a bharwa doling out character certificates of women empowerment.

shravanp · Post by **shravanp** » 07 Oct 2016 00:17

RaGa is the best campaigner BJP ever got

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 07 Oct 2016 00:27

sudeepj wrote: Mushahid Hussain is an idiot.. I still remember his bluster from the Kargil days, he hasnt learnt any manners from the hiding he got then. I welcome this idiocy by the Pakis, will put the seal on the break between them and the sole super power.

This should serve as a reminder to the US President, his/her administration and the US Congress the next time they get all teary eyed about Pakistan and start giving them free AH-1Z Viper helicopters, F-16s, etc. America has practically bankrolled Pakistan all these decades.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 07 Oct 2016 00:32

jivana wrote:Couple of points:

Modi asked his 'Ministers' not to conduct any chest beatings. This could be interpreted that Onlee top ministers shouldn't do any gloating but its free for all as far as mango public is concerned, especially the SM warriors. Before the strikes, there was a lot of tana-baazi by the liberatti, aap, congi crowds about where did the 56" chaati go? Now, the shoe is in the other foot so no need to show any mercy to these traitors. They need to be kicked in the nuts constantly till they fall in line or disappear from the horizon.

Once, I had a paki on my team. In the beginning, we never discussed any politics less things got ugly. However, after a while we started with some light discussions. He hated the pakjabi army and all the shit they have done. Initially, I thought that he was politically correct given that I was his Boss. But when he told me he's shia I realised he wasn't BSing. The guy was a big fan of Bal Thackarey, which came as a big shock to me. Given that a lot of secularwadis hated his guts, here's a paki shia who was rooting for Bala sahab.

The point I wanted to make is there are multiple fault-lines in bakiland, we need to exploit each and every one. No forgiveness, no nobel prize, no mercy till this disease is eradicated from the face of earth.

jivana, I agree with you (and what I think Modi is saying). It is not appropriate for the top guys like Modi and his ministers and Army chiefs to be gloating, but it's okay for yeevil yinternet yindoos like us. The pro of that is crooks like Barkha/Rajdeep hear people speak and it is reinforced how hated they are.

I had a "good" paki in my team about a decade ago. One day he told me he was off, for Moharrum. So I asked if he was a Shia and he was amazed by my question. He was a Sindhi and hated the Pakjabis but still clung to "my religion".

I once met an elderly Paki at the photo booth at Walmart. He was an employee. We started to talk and after a while he asked me if I knew the cause for Pakistan's condition? I said what. He said Islam! Islam is the culprit!! he said. And he was a born paki muslim. He said he hated the country and the religion and was a big fan of Jiddu Krishnamurthi. He was so loud I was almost afraid some Jihadi around would hear us.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 07 Oct 2016 00:37

modi has perfected the art of playing dirty by not playing dirty.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Oct 2016 00:41

KJo, Be that all may, it is important the leader also praises the actions to ensure morale of the aam janata.
If you read INC spokesperson Anand Sharma's statement he said in effect Army decided to retaliate and UPA leadership did not take ownership of that Army decision. Which means they left them out to dry.

Aditya G · Post by **Aditya G** » 07 Oct 2016 00:46

Some members have remarked about our ability to re-take PoK in light of #SurgicalStrike;

From a tactical standpoint, it only validates what we already know about our Army & Special Forces in particular - that it is up to the task. Is this proof of our ability to retake PoK? I don't think so as Special Ops cannot retake that vast an area. PA could not take J&K despite 25 years of terrorism. They could not even do it in 1999 despite initial successes.

To capture PoK we need to be able cross LoC in huge numbers and capture garrisons in far off places such as Skardu. Down south in Jammu we have armour but what about in Kargil and North Kashmir? The mountains secure as well as prevent us pushing out.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Oct 2016 00:49

Wonder ,How is new Mountain Strike Corp coming up or It is already in POK to warm up this winter .

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Oct 2016 00:50

That RPO looks good asset. Maybe Baloch can use the reusable model.

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 07 Oct 2016 01:12

sudeepj wrote:
Mushahid Hussain is an idiot.. I still remember his bluster from the Kargil days, he hasnt learnt any manners from the hiding he got then. I welcome this idiocy by the Pakis, will put the seal on the break between them and the sole super power.

Sudeepji,

Please, please watch video from 1:17:30, its only 2 mins long but worth a million,

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/events/p ... on-kashmir

Dispute in Focus: Pakistan’s Perspective on Kashmir