Levant crisis - III

Rishi Verma · Post by **Rishi Verma** » 09 Nov 2016 18:28

Without Trump doing anything just the thought of US/Russia uniting against the purest greens will have a psychological effect on the savages. But Trump will do what he has said: collaborate with Russia to fight the ISIS. For the first time in history Saudis have a cause for concern. I expect a meeting with Putin in the coming days.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Nov 2016 19:22

even recapturing the remainder of aleppo is a big task. there is close to 40km of distance from aleppo city to the border with Idlib state and its all in jihadi hands. but first the nearby towns & hills like zeitan, el eis, huraytan, anadan, khan touman etc in a belt have to be cleared..these are the rat staging areas.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Nov 2016 19:35

hopefully the kalibr's and su33s are getting warmed up about now ... its later afternoon in syria this day 9-nov-2016 and the sun is bright on the fields and orchards...

habal · Post by **habal** » 09 Nov 2016 19:48

& the kaliber's start flyin ..

Engaging Kalibr cruise missiles, strike 2 target rebels outside Aleppo

43 US Forces killed and Injured Near Iraq’s Mosul By ISIS

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Nov 2016 19:56

"On November 9 at 06:50 a.m. Moscow Time [03:50 GMT], Russia's Severomorsk and Vice-Admiral Kulakov anti-submarine destroyers detected a diesel-electric submarine of the Dutch navy (presumably Walrusklasse) which tried to approach and track the aircraft carrier group of the Northern Fleet," he said.

Konashenkov underscored that the destroyers detected the sub at a distance of 20 kilometers using sonar systems and information provided by Ka-27 anti-submarine helicopters. "Despite the submarine's maneuvering, we established a stable sonar contact with it. The ships had been tracking it for one hour and forced it to leave the area where the naval group was located." "Such 'clumsy' attempts to maneuver in close vicinity to the Russian ships could have led to serious navigation accidents," Konashenkov said. The spokesman added that the Russian naval group has been regularly detecting NATO submarines along its course. In early November, nuclear submarine Virginia was noticed at an attempt to spy on the Russian ships. "It is noteworthy that submarines of such class, having big displacement, are not fit for reconnaissance," the spokesman observed.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201611 ... ian-ships/

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 09 Nov 2016 20:32

Very interesting they detected a Walrus class submarine at 20 Km , That a advanced diesel electric submarine and a true blue water submarine in NATO displacing 2300 T and maintaining a stable sonar contact for an hour is quite good for a surface ship.

Either the sub crew are truly clumsy on how to manage the ships or the Russian ASW crew are good.

I was told by a IN Kilo officer that they had approached a USN CBG transiting Arabian sea and came as close as 15 km and remain undetected while tracking it

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Nov 2016 21:05

well in this case they are well prepared and actively looking for subs....the Yantar has already ripped up stuff and dropped its own stuff in place over the expected patrol areas.

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 09 Nov 2016 21:07

TSJones wrote:I don't where you guys get the idea that Trump is gonna abandon the Syria conflict.

I'll tell ya what he is going to abandon: Obama bombing reticence.

targets like raqqa are going to get the living f*** bombed out of it.

no more kid gloves.

euros are gonna file war crimes charges against him. no love lost there.

you heard it from TSJ.

The US actually trying to destroy ISIS? Everyone on this forum would sure love to see that.

You sure do switch sides quickly; abandoning your Sunni terrorist pals with nary a whimper? Aren't you upset that Assad will remain in power and those evil Russkis aren't going to be bombed now? You've been effectively cheering the Sunni jihadists, Turkey and the Saudi bloc for years.

What a silly and inconsistent troll you are.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Nov 2016 21:21

drone footage of east aleppo its claimed...not as ruined as Jobar or Hama but will get there unless the rats clear out on their last lifeline offer

https://twitter.com/Sophiemcneill/statu ... 8443872257

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Nov 2016 21:25

some hamfisted tier3 nato AF probably trying to prove themselves...

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#Raqqa a Massacre committed by coalition warplanes in #Hisha village the Airstrikes killed at least 23 civilians including women and kids

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 09 Nov 2016 21:41

Singha wrote:well in this case they are well prepared and actively looking for subs....the Yantar has already ripped up stuff and dropped its own stuff in place over the expected patrol areas.

Yes, both are doing their job , if NATO subs are not tracking cbg they won't be doing their job and if Russians are not alert for sub that would be sloppy of them , usual cat and mouse game.

During cold war ships and subs have collided infact tracking each other

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Nov 2016 22:02

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Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Nov 2016 22:41

"gulenists"

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Turkey arrests 55 more pilots in post-coup investigations: NTV

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 09 Nov 2016 22:55

Y. Kanan wrote:
TSJones wrote:I don't where you guys get the idea that Trump is gonna abandon the Syria conflict.

I'll tell ya what he is going to abandon: Obama bombing reticence.

targets like raqqa are going to get the living f*** bombed out of it.

no more kid gloves.

euros are gonna file war crimes charges against him. no love lost there.

you heard it from TSJ.
The US actually trying to destroy ISIS? Everyone on this forum would sure love to see that.

You sure do switch sides quickly; abandoning your Sunni terrorist pals with nary a whimper? Aren't you upset that Assad will remain in power and those evil Russkis aren't going to be bombed now? You've been effectively cheering the Sunni jihadists, Turkey and the Saudi bloc for years.

What a silly and inconsistent troll you are.

I'm not advocating anything of the sort you illiterate jingo.

I was merely describing the donald's probable course of action and results.

vinod · Post by **vinod** » 09 Nov 2016 23:03

TSJones wrote:I don't where you guys get the idea that Trump is gonna abandon the Syria conflict.

I'll tell ya what he is going to abandon: Obama bombing reticence.

targets like raqqa are going to get the living f*** bombed out of it.

no more kid gloves.

euros are gonna file war crimes charges against him. no love lost there.

you heard it from TSJ.

That is, if by the time Trump comes to power, the Jihadis are still around. I would assume 2 months is more than enough for Russians and Iraqi's to clean up. What would remain are just some left overs...!

I don't think current US admin would have any more fight in them, to go at them in full strength in the remaining time.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Nov 2016 23:15

suheil al hasan does not usually make public statements, he just appears in photos some candid some posed. but today he issued a direct dhamki to that belt of rats nest towns in west aleppo that he would "rain hell" on them unless the jihadis vacated and headed for the hills asap.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 09 Nov 2016 23:35

https://sputniknews.com/military/201611 ... ian-ships/

Interesting even USN Virginia Class subs has been tracked by Russian CBG and some comments from Russian MOD and a little rub off

The spokesman added that the Russian naval group has been regularly detecting NATO submarines along its course. In early November, nuclear submarine Virginia was noticed at an attempt to spy on the Russian ships. "It is noteworthy that submarines of such class, having big displacement, are not fit for reconnaissance," the spokesman observed.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 09 Nov 2016 23:37

I guess the Virginia class was trying to get close to CBG and remain in the wake of Ships to remain undetected as subs would normall do hence the reference to "such class, having big displacement, are not fit for reconnaissance"

Also note the key word Regularly Detecting NATO subs , its like saying we know you are there and what you are doing , Good experience for the Rus ASW crew against the best out there trying to play cat and mouse game

Rishi Verma · Post by **Rishi Verma** » 09 Nov 2016 23:57

Both the US and Russia have permenant sensors embedded into ocean floor along the strategic sea routes for sub detection. It doesn't take a CBG to detect a sub but an airborne or shipborne sonar can be used to verify the signature. I know it as first hand info.

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 10 Nov 2016 04:55

TSJones wrote:
Y. Kanan wrote:
The US actually trying to destroy ISIS? Everyone on this forum would sure love to see that.

You sure do switch sides quickly; abandoning your Sunni terrorist pals with nary a whimper? Aren't you upset that Assad will remain in power and those evil Russkis aren't going to be bombed now? You've been effectively cheering the Sunni jihadists, Turkey and the Saudi bloc for years.

What a silly and inconsistent troll you are.
I'm not advocating anything of the sort you illiterate jingo.

I was merely describing the donald's probable course of action and results.

You certainly have up to now, gloating over every dead Russian in Syria, cheering the likes of Al-Nusra, Jaish-al-Fatah, even ISIS when they killed Syrian or Russian troops. You've gloated about your country's ability to arm terrorists and engineer regime changes, you've glossed over and ignored the logical disconnect between supporting Saudi, Qatar, Turkey while fighting a "war on terror". You've been all over the place, with virtually all your posts consisting of snarky, pointless one-liners with the general theme of delighting in Syrian, Russian and sometimes even Indian deaths. If you're not outright rooting for jihadists and their backers, you certainly give the impression of enjoying the suffering of their victims.

Perhaps the election of Trump has changed you in this regard. Have you been bathed in the light of the Donald and emerged a changed man? lol

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 10 Nov 2016 06:02

^^^^^you quoted my specific message about what trump will do.

you have no ideas to relate to me but general cry baby wah wah.

fact: the only thing assad can fight are unarmed civilians.

with russian help he is barely holding on.

assad = pitiful, pathetic and douche bag performance. just like most ME armies. the hooties excepted.

with a name like hootie you better be tough because everybody in the neighborhood will want to kick your rear end.

boo hoo cry me a river.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 10 Nov 2016 07:27

Dog eating a dead isis fighter west of mosul

https://mobile.twitter.com/pmu_english/ ... 0577077248

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 10 Nov 2016 07:29

Dog looks fat..plenty of exposed corpses to feast on.

In 1947 migration riots dogs became so selective they would eat only human livers

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 10 Nov 2016 08:32

Looks like Assad is inspired by Trump's election, plus a wall with Turkey

Rammpal · Post by **Rammpal** » 10 Nov 2016 09:23

Singha wrote:Dog looks fat..plenty of exposed corpses to feast on.

In 1947 migration riots dogs became so selective they would eat only human livers

Pigs(the animal kind

!), would have done a far better job!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 10 Nov 2016 09:59

1070 apts are totally trashed..look at the children bedroom it was a nice flat.

the 1070 and 3000 apts and the castello road look like ORR of bangalore with nice flats, wide roads for the suburban elites. but its all junked now.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 10 Nov 2016 10:00

unlike the hezbollah who always wear helmets and BPJ when deployed in syria, the other formations interviewed here have no BPJ or even helmets and the gas mask the old man shows is hand made.

all of these are areas which the vast chinese depots can fix cheaply - if they want a risk free play there. the rebel shock troops look better fed and equipped than the SAA.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 10 Nov 2016 10:01

kuznetsov BG has flattered to deceive so far - no strikes yet

habal · Post by **habal** » 10 Nov 2016 10:35

Yemenis take no sh1t from nobody,and as showed by this children smiling straight after leg amputation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etvztop1nmQ

habal · Post by **habal** » 10 Nov 2016 10:36

SAA, Hezb plowing the fields @1070

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txiZt2JFyt0

SAA loading the truck with fertilizer @1070

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWxE2_YztUc

habal · Post by **habal** » 10 Nov 2016 10:38

video of Liwa Al Quds in Aleppo using a grad inside a building as to hit target just a couple of hundreds meters away, shows how much is owed to this fearless Palestinian fighters helping the Syrian Arab Republic, from October but who cares

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 10 Nov 2016 11:42

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-bu ... yria-18333

Russia's Only Aircraft Carrier Is About to Strike Syria

Dave Majumdar
November 8, 2016

A Russian naval group led by the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov and the battlecruiser Peter the Great are imminently set to launch strikes on rebel position in war-torn Syria. The Russian operation will take aim at the beleaguered city of Aleppo, which the Syrian regime is trying to retake from rebel forces.

“The attacks are to hit the long-range approaches to the city,” a Russian defense ministry spokesman told the Interfax news agency.

The Russian Navy is expected to strike Aleppo with a combination of 3M-14 Kaliber-NK cruise missiles and carrier-based Sukhoi Su-33 Flanker-D and MiG-29KR Fulcrum-D fighters. Though Kuznetsov carries only 10 Su-33 and four multirole MiG-19KR fighters, the deployment will afford Russia operational experience in launching combat sorties from a carrier at sea. The Su-33s—which were originally designed as air superiority fighters—have been retrofitted with the Gefest bombsights to better enable them to hit ground targets. The newer Fulcrums were designed to carry precision-guided munitions from the outset.

The elderly carrier—the only flattop remaining in the Russian service—also carries 10 helicopters including Ka-52K Katran gunships, Ka-27 anti-submarine helicopters and Ka-31 airborne early warning platforms. However, it is not clear if the Ka-52K attack helicopters will be participating in the initial wave of Russian naval strikes, though it is likely those aircraft will participate in the campaign at some point.

Russian media including Interfax and Gazeta.ru are reporting that the naval taskforce will use Kaliber-NK cruise missiles during the strikes. However, as Gazeta.ru report points out, it is not clear which Russian vessels would launch those attacks. Neither the Kirov-class Peter the Great nor the two Udaloy-class “large anti-submarine ships” Severomorsk and Vice-Admiral Kulakov that are part of the Russian flotilla are equipped to launch 3M-14 Kaliber-NK missiles.

The Russian Navy will most likely launch the Kaliber missile strikes from its forces in the Black Sea or the Caspian Sea. Indeed, the brand-new Admiral Grigorovich frigate—which recently transferred from the Baltic to the Black Sea Fleet—is armed with Kaliber-NK cruise missiles. It is also possible one of Russia’s Northern Fleet nuclear-powered submarines has joined the Mediterranean task force, as Center for Naval Analysis research scientist Mike Kofman pointed out. “The Russian Navy's comparative strength, its submarine force, is unlikely to have been left completely without a role in this affair,” Kofman wrote.

Ultimately, the Russian naval strikes will probably not change the overall situation in Syria. Moscow didn’t need to deploy its fleet to shore up the Syrian regime; the Russian forces in theatre were already sufficient for the Kremlin’s purposes. The real reason for the Kremlin’s naval deployment is to show the world—and particularly the United States—that Russia remains a formidable force that can project power from its shores.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 10 Nov 2016 11:54

it seems there is a canal that permits these Buyan/Grigorovich types to reach the Black sea from the Caspian sea. quite handy in moving them around. upto 5000t capacity, so any ship from the worlds oceans can enter the caspian via this route, even submarines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga%E2%80%93Don_Canal

russia can also build its ships somewhere else and insert into caspian and rotate them

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 10 Nov 2016 17:49

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/du ... ussian-dm/

Dutch submarine approaches Russian naval fleet in Mediterranean: Russian DM
By News Desk - 09/11/20166
A Dutch submarine on Wednesday morning tried to approach the Russian aircraft carrier group in the Mediterranean and spy on it, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said on Wednesday.

"Earlier today, at 06:50 on November 9 the search and attack group consisting of anti-submarine ships The Severomorsk and The Vice-Admiral Kulakov spotted a diesel submarine of the Dutch Navy (presumably Walrus), which had tried to approach the Northern Fleet’s aircraft carrier group for surveillance purposes."

Northern Fleet's anti-submarine ships forced the submarine to leave the area where Russia's Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier was at the moment.
"The crews of two anti-submarine ships, The Severomorsk and The Vice-Admiral Kulakov, easily identified the submarine that was 20 kilometers away using the standard onboard hydroacoustics systems and data obtained from anti-submarine helicopters Ka-27 PL.

Despite the submarine’s attempts to evade surveillance a stable hydroacoustic contact was established with it. The ships kept track of the submarine for more than an hour and forced it to leave the area of the aircraft carrier-led group," Konashenkov said.

According to the ministry, the submarine's maneuvers in the Mediterranean were dangerous and could have led to grave navigation consequences.

"The clumsy attempts to carry out dangerous maneuvers in the direct proximity of the Russian group of warships could have led to grave navigation consequences," he said.

The ministry official also said the Russian Navy’s aircraft carrier group regularly discovered NATO’s submarines on its way to the Mediterranean.

"Throughout its voyage, a Northern Fleet detachment regularly discovered NATO’s submarines along the route. Actions by USS Virginia, which was trying to spy on the Russian vessels, were recorded in early November," Konashenkov said.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 10 Nov 2016 21:03

What do they gain by this? Recordings of internal noise? Smell of potty places to figure out the menu?

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 10 Nov 2016 21:09

UlanBatori wrote:What do they gain by this? Recordings of internal noise? Smell of potty places to figure out the menu?

ship's noises change as they age and are maintained with new parts, etc. new clanging and banging so to speak.

it's nice to have these updated recordings to teach weapons demons the changing target acquisition frames.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 10 Nov 2016 22:00

https://twitter.com/AfarinMamosta/statu ... 4150362112 - unwashed dog surrenders

https://twitter.com/GissiSim/status/795683561626025984 - bbc crew narrowly escapes a huge car bomb - 5 ISOF killed

deadly videos from mosul - all out war

pesh use milan atgm to take out yet another moving vbied
https://twitter.com/UniteKurdistan/stat ... 9268854786

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 10 Nov 2016 22:12

Nov8 map