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:evil: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... ve-reactio

Not my president ?!!
Why agree to ballot system then ?!
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Arjun wrote:As expected, "liberals" from Berkeley and across the US declare Trump "not my President", do not accept democratic election results, start vandalizing property and get into rage-boy mode. No difference between these Berkeley morons and this idiot:

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...sure this isn't some messed up borough in London :D
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Rammpal wrote::evil: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... ve-reactio

Not my president ?!!
Why agree to ballot system then ?!
bunch of entitled pinkos.

Didn't such creeps also do the same to Modi in India??
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As I had posted earlier:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7243&p=2069426&hili ... y#p2069426

this illegal who is at UC Berkeley was complaining in the NYT how talking of illegal immigration was hate speech. He mentioned that there are 400 of 'em at Berkeley. Pretty sure this protest by "Alternative Socialist Voice" at Berkeley consists of people like these :-o.

It's stupid that dems and reps haven't solved this issue or deciding what to do with the illegals and undocumented. The leftards have been encouraging mainstreaming the illegals in sanctuary cities and UC Berkeley rides and what not. At some point either one has to accept it, or there will be confrontation. It's like in India when people encroach on public land. Either they get to keep it or bulldozers have to brought in. Similarly the illegales will now fight any effort to do anything to them. Trump promised to do something. Will have to see the ugliness.
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Look at the real ars*holes who cannot stomach the result! The "Clintonians",who all along warned us about the Trumpeters as if they were from the criminal class. "Lock her up" was the victory war cry,after her supporters have gone on the rampage,it must be done!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11 ... ite-house/
Live US election 2016: Backlash to election of Donald Trump begins as protests sweep America
People take to the streets to protest against TrumpPlay! 00:49

Barney Henderson Rob Crilly, new york Chris Graham
10 NOVEMBER 2016 • 6:11AM
Hillary Clinton speech in full
How the world reacted
William Hague: My six-point memo to President Trump
Women, black and Hispanic voters desert Clinton - the charts which show why she lost
US election results and state-by-state maps

Protests against the election of Donald Trump as president have swept across the US, with hundreds of people gathering in New York's Union Square.
Thousands of pupils walked out of classes in California, protesters blocked roads in Oregon and set fire to rubbish bins in Seattle and Oakland.

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A bitter election campaign has left a nation divided. The popular vote is split almost exactly between the two candidates.

And although both Mr Trump and Hillary Clinton have appealed for unity, many fear that the forces unleashed by the president-elect's bombastic rhetoric could have explosive results.

Protesters gather on Fifth Avenue outside Trump Tower

In New York, hundreds of people assembled in light rain as darkness fell with banners reading “Not our president” and “If he builds a wall we will tear it down”.

The protesters blocked New York's Fifth Avenue as they descended on the Trump Tower, where the president-elect was lying low.

There were reports of multiple arrests being made and a heavy police presence as units from the NYPD moved in to contain the demonstrators.
Protesters demonstrate on Fifth Avenue outside Trump Tower

The east side of the famous street, a stone's throw from Central Park, had been closed to the public and lorries filled with dirt were lined up in front of the building's lobby to form a protective barrier.

In London anti-racist protesters gathered outside the US Embassy and there were reports of confrontations with members of a right-wing group, although Scotland Yard said no arrests were made.

6:11am
Asian markets rebound
Asian shares rallied on Thursday and the dollar firmed in a remarkable snapback from the shock of Republican Donald Trump's presidential victory, though the speed of the reversal left some market watchers scratching their heads.

Spreadbetters expected the upsurge in equities to continue in Europe, forecasting a significantly higher open for Britain's FTSE, Germany's DAX and France's CAC.

MSCI's broadest index of Asia-Pacific shares outside Japan bounced 2 percent after slumping 2.4 percent on Wednesday as global markets plunged on signs that Mr Trump was sweeping to power.

A woman walks past an electronic stock board showing Japan's Nikkei 225 index at a securities firm in Tokyo
The Nikkei emerged even stronger, jumping 7 percent at one point after sinking 5 percent on Wednesday.

Despite the initial sharp recoil in global markets, U.S. investors opted to focus instead on Trump's key policy priorities, which include generous tax cuts and higher infrastructure and defence spending, along with deregulation for banks. Takuya Takahashi, a strategist at Daiwa Securities in Tokyo, said it left some investors scratching their heads:

"Investors are puzzled with their emotional investment decisions. They were risk averse yesterday, then after seeing that Americans were optimistic and chasing the market higher, they wasted no time reversing their positions.
"Some of the investors must be thinking that they shouldn't have sold after all."

Reporting from Reuters

6:01am
Making the election a punchline
Some comedians are trying to find the humour in Donald Trump's election as president.
Even so, comedians including Seth Meyers, John Oliver and George Lopez delivered jokes Wednesday night to benefit

The election was the butt of a lot of jokes at a Ney York event for the Natural Resources Defence Council.
Seth Meyers, host of NBC's "Late Night," voiced a bit of hope for how the Trump administration might turn out.

"I have been wrong about him every step of the way," Meyers said. Wrong that Trump wouldn't run; wrong that he wouldn't get the GOP nomination; wrong that he wouldn't win.

"The good news is, based on my pattern of getting it all wrong, he's going to be a great (darn) president!"
Standup Mike Birbiglia said the result sent many people to straight to their computers.

"We were all Googling 'What do you do when someone who talks like a dictator takes over your country? And all the results were in Korean."
Will America manage with Trump as chief executive? "That's a difficult question to answer," mused John Oliver, host of HBO's "Last Week Tonight."

But in its favour, he proposed, is the fact that America is "a defiant nation." As an example of its national defiance, he reported that during the devastating financial crisis of 2009, Americans spent $310 million on Halloween costumes - for their pets.

5:28am
Abe to meet Trump
Shinzo Abe, the Japanese Prime Minister, is to meet US president-elect Donald Trump in New York next week.

Mr Abe and Mr Trump spoke for about 20 minutes and tentatively set a date of November 17 for the meeting, just before Mr Abe goes to Peru for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) summit, a Japanese foreign ministry official told AFP.
During his election campaign, Mr Trump raised eyebrows in Japan by calling on the country to pay more to support the cost of stationing US forces.
He even suggested that Japan might want to become a nuclear power to counter unpredictable neighbour North Korea, which has repeatedly conducted nuclear and ballistic missile tests to international condemnations and prompting UN sanctions.

That statement shocked many in Japan, the only country in the world to have been attacked with nuclear weapons.

5:25am
Scenes in Los Angeles
The protests are continuing in Los Angeles, where demonstrators gathered in front of City Hall.
Marchers have now stopped at Los Angeles and 3rd. Just sat down in intersection.
9:48 AM - 10 Nov 2016
Crowd has amassed again at City Hall. Not seeing much of an LAPD presence but things have stayed peaceful since the Trump head was burned
10:14 AM - 10 Nov 2016

New Yorkers have taken to leaving inspiring, healing or just plain angry messages on Post-It notes at Union Square Subway station.

4:57am
White House staff upset at Trump win

Barack Obama's staff struggled to contain their emotions on Wednesday as the president vowed a smooth transition of power to Donald Trump.

Addressing Mr Trump's shock electoral win in public for the first time, Mr Obama appeared in the Rose Garden before visibly pained White House staff.
A White House staff member wipes away the tears after Mr Trump's win

Mr Obama said he had instructed his team to work hard to ensure a successful transition to a Trump administration "because we are now all rooting for his success in uniting and leading the country".

4:15am
Newsweek recalls 125,000 copies of its souvenir Madam President issue
Everyone from pollsters to pundits got the result of the US presidential election wrong. But few can have made it in such an expensive manner, writes Rob Crilly.

Newsweek and a partner that prints up special commemorative issues has been forced into an embarrassing recall, after it sent out 125,000 of copies of its Madam President issue designed to celebrate Hillary Clinton's win.

Hillary Clinton signs a copy of Newsweek's 'Madam President' issue :rotfl: :lol: :mrgreen:

Although Topix Media had also prepared a Donald Trump version it thought it was safe to dispatch only the version detailing “Hillary Clinton's historic journey to the White House”, as the cover put it.

4:09am
The #notmypresident protests sweeping the country
Protests hit at least nine cities across the country as anti-Trump groups made their feelings clear. They were reported in Chicago, New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Seattle, Portland, Dallas, Austin and Kansas City.

#protestors chanting #trump you're fired in #nyc #protest #unionsquare #trumpwins #notmypresident #PresidentElectTrump #Vote2016 #Trump2016
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4:04am
Trump offers support to South Korea despite earlier doubts
Donald Trump pledged his commitment to defend South Korea under an existing security alliance during a phone call with South Korean President Park Geun-hye on Thursday, Yonhap news agency said, citing diplomatic sources.

South Korean President Park Geun-hye
Mr Trump had said during the election campaign he would be willing to withdraw US military stationed in South Korea unless Seoul paid a greater share of the cost of the deployment. There are about 28,500 US troops based in South Korea in combined defence against North Korea.

Ms Park's office said she spoke by phone with Mr Trump at around 0100 GMT but could not immediately confirm what was discussed.

3:55am
Turnbull speaks to Trump
Malcolm Turnbull, Australian Prime Minister, says he has spoken to the President-elect, saying they agreed on the importance of the countries' military alliance.

Mr Turnbull said Donald Trump "appreciates, honours" and "admires" the 65-year-old bilateral defence pact that requires the security partners to consult if either comes under attack but does not commit them to come to the other's defence.

"We absolutely agreed on the pivotal importance of our strong alliance," Mr Turnbull said, adding that US and Australian troops had fought side by side in every major conflict for the past 98 years.

"We discussed the vital importance of the United States' continued strong presence in our region and we agreed that that presence has been an absolutely essential foundation of the peace and stability that has enabled the remarkable growth and prosperity, the remarkable economic growth we have seen over the last 40 years."

3:47am
Protesters target Republican HQ
Crowds of anti-Trump protesters have gathered in Richmond, Virginia, where the Republican headquarters has reportedly been vandalised and demonstrators are blocking roads
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more protests in east coast elite cities
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016 ... /93570584/
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When (not if) President Trump sends Hillary the Witch to jail, I am going to print her and Dirtkha Butt picture with prison bars in front on T-shirts and give them away by thousands.
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Did the very people who voted for trump ever come out in protests against obama when he was elected twice to office or hilary when she called half of trump's supporters 'despicable'. I don't think so.
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they are Rust and Bible belters sir and should not be given a vote. down with electoral college.

only the berkeley socialists and NYC chatterati and sikulars will get to vote on the next POTUS, followed by their sheeple coastal hordes.
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Rishi Verma wrote: Hillary the Witch
This is gonna stick good !
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Singhaji, please no 'sir'. I am pretty young.
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Clinton Couldn’t Win Over White Women

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/cli ... ite-women/
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Liberalism in full flow. Hope our resident experts in Georgetown, Sagarika and Rajdeep join in this movement to save the country from the rust belt!
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Rishi Verma wrote:When (not if) President Trump sends Hillary the Witch to jail, I am going to print her and Dirtkha Butt picture with prison bars in front on T-shirts and give them away by thousands.
You do realize that all that 'lock her up' rhetoric goes away now that the campaign is over right? :). There's not going to be any special prosecutor from Trump's side.
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brar_w wrote:
Rishi Verma wrote:When (not if) President Trump sends Hillary the Witch to jail, I am going to print her and Dirtkha Butt picture with prison bars in front on T-shirts and give them away by thousands.
You do realize that all that 'lock her up' rhetoric goes away now that the campaign is over right? :). There's not going to be any special prosecutor from Trump's side.
this will be quite an acid test... so if she is so bad and corrupt are you going to prosecute her like you said you will? in fact I think he should now open a prosecution against her

and yes, when does the wall go up?
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Defense Industry Expecting Boost from Trump Election
WASHINGTON – The election of Donald Trump as the next President of the United States should give a boost to the defense industry, although one analyst warns there may be new challenges that arise in the international market.

Stocks for defense firms, including Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman and General Dynamics jumped between five and seven percent the morning after the election, a sign of early investor confidence that the Republican control of the White House and both chambers of Congress will mean boom times for the military-industrial complex.

Byron Callan of Capital Alpha Partners believes a Trump White House, combined with a GOP-controlled House and Senate, should mean the next budget is “at least $18 billion more for FY17 than the [Obama] Administration’s request, with $10 billion or more of that going to investment. Thus, FY17 investment budget authority could be up 2%-3% from FY16, not the flat comp we expected.”

Jim McAleese, a well known industry analyst, predicts a jump in across the board funding, including an increase of $9-18 billion for Overseas Contingency Operations (OCO) funding and moderate top-line funding for the next budget.

"At the very least, investors perceive that Trump presidency will preempt the potential -$25B cut to top-line DoD funding that would otherwise occur under 2018 Sequester," he wrote to Defense News. "Additionally, Investors are generally expecting ≈+3-4% potential top-line 2018 defense growth as well."
Industry insider Loren Thompson agrees that the budget is likely to increase, although it will have to be worked into the broader Trump economic strategy.

“The larger question is how Trump’s defense priorities will be reconciled with his plans to cut taxes, protect entitlements, and invest in infrastructure,” Thompson wrote in a column for Forbes.com. “Those commitments will inevitably impose some limits on how much he can expand investment in new military equipment. However, even on that front the news is mostly positive for defense contractors, because Trump wants to slash the corporate income tax rate and bolster U.S. manufacturing — an area where aerospace and defense companies already stand out as top employers and exporters.”

Among the winners predicted by Thompson – companies involved in the modernization of the nuclear triad, those that build naval vessels (Trump has pledged to increase the Navy to 350 ships), and industry firms that equip the Army and Marine Corps, both of which Trump has said he wants to expand.

McAleese concurred that shipbuilders General Dynamics and Huntington Ingalls, as well as companies like Lockheed and Raytheon which provide combat systems for naval vessels, are early winners. Another winner he sees, also predicted by Thompson, is the F-35 joint strike fighter, which McAleese predicts will now be free from concerns the program could be cut to pay for the coming nuclear modernization wave. And if Trump follows through on plans to expand the Army, companies that service the ground force could see a big boost after years of lagging behind other services.

"At least 60% of any additional Army funding would likely be consumed in soldier pay, plus training and readiness, but some modest growth of Army investment accounts for combat vehicles (GD, BAE), wheeled tactical vehicles (Oshkosh), helicopters (Boeing, Sikorsky), and some targeted network priorities" could be in play, McAleese wrote.

Callan adds that the border security market is likely to grow as well. He highlights Elbit Systems as one that may be a particular winner in that category, especially as the reality of building a physical wall along the border with Mexico becomes apparent to the new administration.

However excited industry may be in the short term, Callan warns that there may be signs of danger in the long term.

“A populist President may be less tolerant of cost overruns on major weapons systems, and greater use of fixed-price contracts might entail more risk for the sector,” Callan wrote. “Congress should also push for more acquisition reform, though it remains to be seen how outreach to Silicon Valley fares in a Trump administration.”

In addition, Callan warns the international market may grow cold to US exports if Trump holds to some of his campaign statements.

NATO nations may look to spend more on defense but will focus that investment internally, given uncertainty about the US-Russia relationship going forward and Trump’s oft-repeated statement that NATO partners need to be paying for their US protection, Callan believes.

In addition, if Trump attempts to move forward with a ban on Muslim immigration to the US, nations in the Gulf and Asia may look elsewhere for their equipment.

The Aerospace Industries Association (AIA) congratulated Trump with a Wednesday morning statement noting that members of his campaign sat down with AIA in June to discuss key issues.
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Under Donald Trump, the US will accept China’s rise – as long as it doesn’t challenge the status quo
'We may, perhaps, be more scrupulous in our decision-making on where and how we get involved but we will not become isolationist.'
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Ripple effects being seen now Europe needs own army, can’t rely on US forever – EU Commission President https://www.rt.com/news/366177-european ... y-juncker/
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Interesting shift in voting preferences based on income (exit poll data). Trump did better than a traditional GOP candidate with the lower income groups but the democrats still had the majority. The democrats did slightly better with higher income groups compared to the past -

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2012 - goo.gl/Ff93ld

2016 Exit Poll data by race -

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2012 -

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http://www.wsj.com/video/white-women-he ... ow_video_4

this is very good video re who voted whom: White women not from city predominantly voted Trump
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Alesast they will set up probe in the US Congress to look into all the Wikileaks email related to her foundation and bribes she received.

HRC/DNC was also responsible for killing of DNC Staff a young Guy who Wikileaks refereed to as source of DNC emails , The cover up story was he was mugged and shot very convenient for DNC

Assange implies murdered DNC staffer was WikiLeaks' source

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Philip wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11 ... ite-house/
He even suggested that Japan might want to become a nuclear power to counter unpredictable neighbour North Korea, which has repeatedly conducted nuclear and ballistic missile tests to international condemnations and prompting UN sanctions.

That statement shocked many in Japan, the only country in the world to have been attacked with nuclear weapons.
Shocked indeed. Perhaps he was hinting that Japan will be on its own, and will have to fend off china and NK by itself, once he becomes president. US protective umbrella allowed them to use their artificial high ground to preach to us after POK 2 in 1998.
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For any one interested in the kind of Economy Obama is handing over to Trump , Just go through these video by Peter Schiff , IT sums up Nicely How obama screwed US Economy

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other than location what do all these euro and east asian poodles bring to table for massa in military terms? and even then massa has 11 CVBG worth of a navy.

its a good idea to cut them loose and make them spend realistically for their own threats than american public paying for all of it...while they run nanny states and preach to turd world.

massa cover has allowed these poodles to punch way above weight for a long time now.
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I expect his NatSec team and his advisors headed for the SD to begin reassuring allies now that the election is over and the rhetoric fades away. Perhaps one of the first big ticket weapons deals to be announced during the first half of his presidency could be the expected $20 Billion Gulf Missile Defense shield that they have been working on with the Missile Defense Agency.
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IndraD wrote:Ripple effects being seen now Europe needs own army, can’t rely on US forever – EU Commission President https://www.rt.com/news/366177-european ... y-juncker/
This is agenda of EU all along. EU Flag, EU anthem, EU Parliament, Eu defense policy, EU constitution, EU court and now EU army. No wonder Putin got Pi&&ed off when they wanted Ukraine to join EU. That idiot N.Farage was saying it all along.
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Skanda wrote:ImageAnit Trump protests in SF this evening. About 500 folks easily. Teens and Youth mostly.
Please do post. "500" probably means 23 and a half. We would like to correlate said images with the famous
Death To Terrist India and America
demonstration photo in SFO by AID and Pak-American Association.
Sorry, when I find a moment I will find it, it's still on the Internet :mrgreen:

My bad! It was
"Allah Will Destroy Terrorist India and America!"
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Yagnasri wrote:
IndraD wrote:Ripple effects being seen now Europe needs own army, can’t rely on US forever – EU Commission President https://www.rt.com/news/366177-european ... y-juncker/
This is agenda of EU all along. EU Flag, EU anthem, EU Parliament, Eu defense policy, EU constitution, EU court and now EU army. No wonder Putin got Pi&&ed off when they wanted Ukraine to join EU. That idiot N.Farage was saying it all along.
rest are ok and their internal power play, but EU joint army will still be a joke. they will run crying back to big daddy once they run out of stones to throw at the bear.
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Newsweek's greatest faux pas! A copy with Shrillary's autograph on it would be worth a lot. Seriously,Hillary should pick up the entire lot from Newsweek for free,sign them and sell them at a premium.She'll need a lot of moolah for her legal defence after they "lock her up"!

https://www.theguardian.com/media/green ... eh-hillary
Madam President: how Newsweek reported a Clinton victory
Newsweek’s editor did what any sensible magazine chief would have done by preparing an issue based on a very different US presidential result...

Newsweek’s prepared cover in the expectation of a very different election outcome. Photograph: Newsweek/Twitter

Thursday 10 November 2016
It could all have been so different. Newsweek’s editor had obviously prepared issues for both possible US presidential election results, as is normal practice in such events.

Oddly, however, this one not only got published but also got distributed. About 125,000 copies had to be recalled, reported the New York Post.


The copy above, tweeted by David Vick (many thanks), carries the cover line: “Madam President: Hillary Clinton’s historic journey to the White House.”

Think of all those wasted words resulting from Donald Trump’s victory. According to the standfirst on the right hand page, the election “was unique in a number of ways” because a female candidate faced a “the kind of demagogue previously unknown in American politics...

“President-elect Hillary Clinton ‘went high’ when her opponent and his supporters went ever lower...” and so it transpired that “on election day, Americans across the country roundly rejected the kind of fear and hate-based conservatism peddled by Donald Trump... The highest glass ceiling in the western world had finally shattered.” If only!

The real cover. Photograph: Newsweek
According to the Post, Newsweek’s production partner, Topix Media, distributed only the Clinton issue to stores in the belief that she would be the winner.

Although retailers were told not to put issues on sale prior to the election, a few copies were sold. The paper quotes Topix chief executive Tony Romando as saying: “Like everybody else, we got it wrong.

“All wholesalers and retailers have been asked to return any issues they have as we need to clear room for the President Trump issue. We expect it to sell very well as there is obviously a great demand.”

It’s a reminder of the famous occasion after the 1948 US presidential election when the Chicago Daily Tribune ran with the headline “Dewey Defeats Truman”.

In fact, Harry Truman beat his Republican challenger, Thomas Dewey. A copy fell into Truman’s hands and he held it aloft, smiling at the mistake because the Republican-supporting Tribune had once referred to him as a nincompoop.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11 ... n-2020-af/

BRF predicted this. We thought after HC two terms, this lady will be called in to "serve" the US as President.
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Daily Mail
What special relationship? US president-elect Donald Trump STILL hasn't spoken to Theresa May - but HAS called Turkey, Egypt and Ireland http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... eland.html
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michelle obama is like priyanka lao congress bachao yelling outside 10 janpath
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The more the privileged elite sucked up to Clinton, the more determined it made Mr and Mrs Ordinary American to trigger Millennial Armageddon

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4PbwgeIoh

Now it's DEMOCRATS who won't accept the election result! Plot to impeach President Trump has already begun
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4PbwrBDAk
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Impeach DT! When the Repubes are in total control :shock: But what does phool like me know hanji. :(

The US Constitution states that the House of Representatives can vote to impeach ad kick an official out of office, but it's the Senate actually tries the case.

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IndraD wrote:Image
good old days ....
This is what makes me feel that DT was a "trumped up" candidate by hilly-billy company that then managed to trump over them. Ramana saar posted the same sometime back.

I could be wrong and i have no proof to offer, just a gut feel.
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In America there is a generic social caste system:
1) WASP hetero male
2) Black/Afram hetero male
3) Latino male
4) White women
5) Latino women
6) Black women
7) White LGBT
8. Non-white LGBT

Within that it had lately become fashionable (in media and social media) to gloss over differing interests of castes 2-8 and present it as one unified voice vs the interest of caste 1. Truth is that at base level this doesn't work. In strongly Democrat California for example, castes 1-6 ganged up against LGBTs wrt gay marriage during Proposition 8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californi ... n_8_(2008)

This election, a key statistic to keep in mind is that Trump got less aggregate votes than Romney or McCain. So what this proves is that it isn't exactly that the vote of caste 1 showed up to the booths more than usual, it is that the voters of castes 2-8 that were all equally excited about Obama (caste 2) being elected were not equally excited about Hillary (caste 4). Yes Hillary won the popular vote, but she didn't get anywhere close to what Obama ever got. Obama never got the votes of caste 1. In fact the same white-working-class group that has supposedly catapulted Trump this election also only gave <30% of their vote to Obama. It is more that castes-2 and 3 and by some extension castes 5 and 6 abandoned Hillary.

US SJW media had a tremendous loss of face during the Prop 8 as it was shown that it was highly religious Christian black community which had shot down gay rights in California. They are going to face a similar but greater loss of face this election. This SJW brand is fooling themselves into thinking that the various castes are somehow united in their common hatred towards caste 1. At the crass level, the xenophobia, misogyny and homophobia one can experience from castes 2 and 3 is currently not at any levels close to what one can expect from caste 1. Basically this projected alliance of diverging interest groups is bound to fail.
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