Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

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Lalmohan there is a Prof in U.K. Eric Kaufman who writes in LSA Blog about Anglo-American decline.
Check his latest blog post on Trump and Brexit.
Lot of BS on race when its the money. Lack of it that is.
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One good thing this election cycle is there was no demonizing the African Americans which was a regular feature of US Presidential Elections.
Bill C had his out rage on a silly African American singer Sistah Souljah and her lyrics.
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ssundar wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:question to trump fans (which is just about all of you on the dhaaga) - how do you overlook his negatives? do they not matter at all?
(i fully accept that HRC is crooked btw)
There are ZERO Trump fans on this dhaaga. 400% of this dhaaga are HRC anti-fans onlee.
:D :) :lol: I'm a Trump fan, read his book :wink: :!:
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UlanBatori wrote:
He may very well drive the US and world into a recession, but will then come soaring out of that.
Unlikely.
Depression cycle that started circa 2008 is way past bedtime.
It Is time to mint :wink:
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bharotshontan wrote:On topic of election rigging, there's a show on Netflix called Scandal that I got suckered into watching, but its pretty interesting and gives a good idea of the deep state and how it functions. Not sure if I'd say highly recommend watching, but its better timepass than most bhaiwood movies
Please put all your posts in this thread in one post as its has something to chew on for people outside the forum.
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The Great Mongolian Khan wrote:thought Slick Willie was a great Prez, in or out of the Oral Office.
:rotfl:
ssundar wrote:Many $500K+ in my circles
ssundar wrote:One $1M+
Sundar Periappa! Adopt me. :mrgreen: (Just kidding, Sir).

In the dark heart of California not one soul wants to discuss the victory of Trump. There were hushed discussions and deep sighs.
Just hope no one noted my satisfied grin the next morning.
"Armorica doing the walk of shame" is how an non-Chinese/Indian Asian colleague put it. I just politely nodded.
Most Japanese folks at the workplace are delighted. The others are just aghast. But that is probably because they're in the Socialist Republicistan of Califoxico.

Just wanted to also highlight that a large number of folks who struggle to keep themselves floating on dole are talking about the mental ability of a chap who has made, lost, and then made billions. Yes, that's the one with 9 zeroes! So what gives?
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This from WashPost:
Trump’s biggest ally in Britain warns him not to grope the prime minister
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Marten wrote:
The Great Mongolian Khan wrote:thought Slick Willie was a great Prez, in or out of the Oral Office.
:rotfl:
ssundar wrote:Many $500K+ in my circles
ssundar wrote:One $1M+
Sundar Periappa! Adopt me. :mrgreen: (Just kidding, Sir).
Neither a Periappa nor a Sir. Just lucky enough to get invited to a few parties. Not sure I will have that privilege anymore since my smug FB posts after DT made it :-? :-? :( :( :(
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Maaza a raha hai..let the games continue

Keep recorders nd mirrors ready

Lots of incidents being reported of muslims and other monoritires being heckled and threatened

The careful pc mask is off the real amrika evn in noo jersey and damn it aint pretty...my cousin sus there for 15 yrs is whining on fbook. Let her feel the heat too.
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A lot of people voted Trump as an FU to the establishment, especially the smug self-righteous Democrats who are increasingly controlled by the cultural marxists of the left just like in India with the Congoons. The left once stood for fighting for the common people's well-being, but now is obsessed with cult-marxist BS about the white-brahmanical-cis-gender-antiislamic-patriarchy and transgendered bathrooms.

Trump asked some right questions about manufacturing job losses (though no answers), the PC climate that demonizes most of white america summed up in the "basket of deplorables" quote, endless wars abroad, confronting Russia, the need for NATO, confronting Islamism, hordes of illegals and refugees changing demographics etc.

The demos, instead of answering and engaging these questions, chose to try the character assassination trick. Didn't work, didn't stick. Everyone knows that if they were hot-mic'd, they wouldn't be saints either. Besides, on that bus, Trump was like any insecure horny dude bragging and boasting. As soon as he got down and was face to face with the PYT, couldn't even initiate or ask for a hug. The other guy had to prod the PYT.

If the left had any sense, they would study industrial engineering and try to figure out how to mass employ people in the age of robotized manufacturing. Instead they study intersectional-gender-sub-altern crapola, shout in the streets, burn flags, and throw hissy fits.

Trump has no answers, but seems to be the only one asking the relevant questions of the 20 people that ran. That's better than not even getting the questions right.
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Very large protests in NYC. If things don't die down by tomorrow it could go bad.


This is Third World level rejection of election results.
This crisis has been brought by the Democratic leadership being decimated with triple losses: President, Senate and Congress and the troops are leaderless and like ronin.

singha, Many trumped up allegations of hijab attacks. Usual suspects CAIRborne warriors.

use 24 hour rule for reported outrages.
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Yeah even staring at someone will be reported as a hate crime now.
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krisna wrote:
Dipanker wrote:Given the closeness of the result in the rust belt battleground states I will credit this Republican victory to Comey. In the October 31st to Nov 5 period Hillary went down from a very comfortable 7+% lead to a precarious 2.7% and could bounce back only to about 3.9% in the remaining 2 days because there was not enough time. This drop cost her the close races in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, (and Michigan), supposedly her "fireball" states she was so sure to win that did not pay enough attention and reacted too late.


Turns out the national polls were not too off the mark, by the time all votes are counted Hillary should still win the popular vote by over a million or so, a repeat of 2000 when Gore won the popular vote, but election was stolen by SC Rehnquist and the gang, Comey is the culprit this time.

The real culrpit which killary supporters inlcuding media are hiding is the obama care.
The next year stuff came to many americans on nov 1 onwards .
There has been upto 25% increase in premiums.
many americans are grumbling --> it hits right into the pockets of every american. This is very basic health issue.

Americnas dont care about comey or his antics if their stomach is hit badly.

No wonder trumpazee was onto obamacare which resonated across many states in middle america.

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comey antics are so so . no ned to give too much importance. it is only to unbalance killary campaign.
The margin of victory in the three rust belt states which Hillary needed to win was so razor thin (Michigan: ~12,000 , Wisconsin: ~27,000, Pennsylvania: ~68,000) that I would not specifically blame Obamacare premium alone, definitely a factor but not the single most important factor. (For comparison Obama won these states by over ~200,000 to ~500,000 votes (2012))

Before the Comey's bombshell 538 forecast had 93% chances for Hillary and 7% for Trump, in one week period Hillary chances went down from 93% to 64%, quite a precipitous drop. Recovery after the second announcement was a relatively lacklustre 71%.

Of course a whole host of factors (Racism, Misogyny etc.) can be listed for Hillary's loss, but given the margin above, you have to put this in Comey's account.
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Well maybe he is destined for higher office then like nsa or homeland security czar
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Things possible for Trump

1) build a wall around the white house. :mrgreen:

2) shift president house to trump tower-why live in govt accomodation. :((

3) appoint all ladies team to overcome his negative image :P

4) Keep mouth shut for few days. he has talked for several days in elelction. 8)

5) sleep till jan 2017. :rotfl:

let the obama show end and go into sunset. :lol:
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Racists graffiti starting to appear in school restrooms. Children being told they are going to be deported. White racism is real; and is going to surface more. Some supremacist morons are going to make things ugly. It is all fine to talk from strategic perspective, when rubber meets the road hope there are no nasty incidents.
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Nice article. Trump is raw-er than one thinks. The feed into the swamp has sprung a leak.

Team Trump is already filled with Washington insiders
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Lalmohan wrote:question to trump fans (which is just about all of you on the dhaaga) - how do you overlook his negatives? do they not matter at all?
(i fully accept that HRC is crooked btw)
I am just entering this dhaaga after the results, never bothered to check this one because based on the twitter caves I guessed the trend here. Let us say some people are like Dhritarastra and some are like Gandhari. :cry: :cry:
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Lalmohan wrote:question to trump fans (which is just about all of you on the dhaaga) - how do you overlook his negatives? do they not matter at all?
(i fully accept that HRC is crooked btw)
Lower taxes and anti-drug. Although he himself has made pro-drug comments, his party will modulate that. Rest, I don't really care.
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UlanBatori wrote:The classic was about Jesse Jackson asking G*wd:
"Lawd: When will a woman get elected President of the USA?"
In your lifetime, Jesse, in your lifetime.
"Lawd: When will a Jew get elected President of the USA?"
In My lifetime, Jesse, in My lifetime.
"Lawd: When will a (black man) get elected President of the USA?"
Not in My lifetime, Jesse, not in My lifetime.

So I'd say we are waaay ahead of The Timeline. IIRC, John Kennedy was Catholic. Slick Willie was "catholic" in the sense of not caring who he "slept" with. Right now Elizabeth Warren or KellyAnn Conway - or maybe Huma Abedin, given the directions of the Donkey Party - seem like good bets to become first wimmen President. Maybe a NASA astronaut - they have the ambition, physical stamina, and generally clean resumes plus the aura of superhuman abilities and Inspiration Value.

I think CEOs are out, and so are FLOTUSes. BTW, who is the US Women's Mud Wrestling Champion? THERE's some bodiescareers to watch!! :eek:

America will probably elect a muslim before it elects an atheist.
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TSJones wrote:plus hillary had the personality of a snail.

a margret thatcher could have done it, but she certainly didn't win on minorities and feminism.

she told george bush the 1st to buck up and get a spine with saddam,
And look where it landed us all today.
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NRao wrote:Nice article. Trump is raw-er than one thinks. The feed into the swamp has sprung a leak.

Team Trump is already filled with Washington insiders

Please also post the source if possible.

CNN cant have it both ways. They derided Trump for being an outsider lacking in DC experience and here is consulting with former Repub administration staffers from Reagan era down and they complain!!!!
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ramana wrote:The bottom line is HRC won ten large cities and two South Western States.
If you are going to look at it that way, then bottom line is she won more people's votes, no?
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SwamyG wrote:Racists graffiti starting to appear in school restrooms. Children being told they are going to be deported. White racism is real; and is going to surface more. Some supremacist morons are going to make things ugly. It is all fine to talk from strategic perspective, when rubber meets the road hope there are no nasty incidents.
Yes it should keep coming out more and more, so this sanctimonious nation is totally exposed; bloody jerks sending human rights reports to other nations......

My cousin who is engineer once told me an incident. It was around 2003 - 04 that he was working in a company where lot of other people from different nations were working too.

He said when Bush attacked Iraq, a canadian used to condemn Bush and used to give big ideas about globalisation and international-brotherhood. There was an older guy who was australian, he told my cousin that this canadian guy "...is a hypocrite, whenever only two of us are there he says that Bush is right, they hit us (9/11), now we should hit the ******** 10 times more..."

This older australian guy was a hippie mostly in 60s and 70s. A julian assange type.

But canadian thought of him as a fellow englishman, so used to confide in him his real feelings.

My cousin said this australian told him that, "....most of us english are like that, very very progressive modern outlook publicly while nurturing racism privately..."

Hope it happens more, I hope all NRIs take Shri Raja Bose as an ideal, who is ready to bear the reich for the good of Bharat Mata!
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SwamyG wrote:Racists graffiti starting to appear in school restrooms. Children being told they are going to be deported. White racism is real; and is going to surface more. Some supremacist morons are going to make things ugly. It is all fine to talk from strategic perspective, when rubber meets the road hope there are no nasty incidents.
Given the extensive birddogging and fakery, should take with a grain of salt until confirmed.
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SwamyG wrote:
ramana wrote:The bottom line is HRC won ten large cities and two South Western States.
If you are going to look at it that way, then bottom line is she won more people's votes, no?
the votes lie a lot. :lol:

trumpanzee won everywhere across the massaland.
killary won in select concentrated areas with heavy populations.
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MurthyB wrote:
SwamyG wrote:Racists graffiti starting to appear in school restrooms. Children being told they are going to be deported. White racism is real; and is going to surface more. Some supremacist morons are going to make things ugly. It is all fine to talk from strategic perspective, when rubber meets the road hope there are no nasty incidents.
Given the extensive birddogging and fakery, should take with a grain of salt until confirmed.

similar to award wapsi gang in our punyabhoomi.

The f**ckers are illogical illiberals retards. when things dont go their way create nuisance and blame the other group.

heck they even inform children to hate trumpers. :(
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krisna wrote:heck they even inform children to hate trumpers. :(
Here's one example
Adam Saleh
‏@omgAdamSaleh
Reema is only 5 years old. She knows that we're Muslim and started crying when she saw Donald Trump winning...
https://twitter.com/omgAdamSaleh/status ... wsrc%5Etfw
Now what do you think this 5 year old girl will grow up to become?

But it's not just about Trump. These children are taught to hate anything and anyone that doesn't conform to their parents worldview from an early age. How is this different from Bakis having indoctrinating their children on the "deceitful Hindu kutta" in their textbooks.
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Manish_Sharma wrote: My cousin said this australian told him that, "....most of us english are like that, very very progressive modern outlook publicly while nurturing racism privately..."
Same confessed to me by a white british guy.
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heh! when I first went to England and there was lot of rona-dhona on EU and outsiders... I said to my colleague in a very reasonable tone - ah! well the colonization brought riches but it also brought people looking for riches. So it is expected. It is a normal flow of history. And all such talk stopped at least when i was around.
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Manish_Sharma wrote: Hope it happens more, I hope all NRIs take Shri Raja Bose as an ideal, who is ready to bear the reich for the good of Bharat Mata!
Real people, real world problems. All strategy vategy baad mein. BRF is as elitist as it gets, talks are inside war rooms.
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SwamyG wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote: Hope it happens more, I hope all NRIs take Shri Raja Bose as an ideal, who is ready to bear the reich for the good of Bharat Mata!
Real people, real world problems. All strategy vategy baad mein. BRF is as elitist as it gets, talks are inside war rooms.
/sarc... PF withdrawl tax showed everyone how much Bharat-mata was being supported. Just look back in desi politics thread.

It is fun tamasha from outside but frogs die in earnest. It is naive to claim all is economic and there was no support for nascent racism, or no support for divisiveness. One also doesnt know what policies will be implemented and whether strategically they will benefit India. They might or might not. Exactly the kind of hope the economically hurt rural america has - hope that the president will shake the system and do something that fixes for them. But one doesnt know yet.
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Trump and "Republican"s will NOT work.

Cannot work.

Trump now belongs ot a hybrid demoRepub party that does not exist. Most f those who voted for him are people who voted against "establishment".

Well, Trump cannot exist without an establishment - Republican party.

Trump won based on a platform that is not Republican. What does Paul Ryan do, he ingests a Repubican agenda and asks Trump to follow it.

Trump will make a lot of noise, but will not get too far from the tree.
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United States of discontent - PB Mehta
We can now claim to retrospectively understand the causes of this extraordinary victory. They were hidden in plain sight. What prevented us from seeing them were our pre-judgments. Or perhaps, as Trump would diagnose, the bias of the supposed liberal establishment is now so deep that it has warped its cognitive ability to understand the world. But the broad narrative was always clear. The revolt against globalisation was deep and pervasive. The fantasy of a post-racial politics, of a politics not premised on ethnicity, was just that: A fantasy. The demographic fantasy of a “coloured” coalition standing alongside gender solidarity underestimated the counter resistance the very idea would generate: It unleashed a significant white counter mobilisation. Anti-globalisation and racial nativism powered each other; the former gave the latter a respectable intellectual basis while nativism gave globalisation its emotional edge....
Two powerful forces are combining.

1. The civilizational narratives rooted in race, faith, ethnicities, geography remain ever strong defeating the western universalism narratives

2. The case against globalization - championed by some early left wingers is coming to roost

What does it mean for the future?
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NRao wrote:
Trump will make a lot of noise, but will not get too far from the tree.
Then why hilary supporters were fearmongering that if trump wins "auschwitz" type camps will open outnumbering McDonald joints?
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The case against globalization - championed by some early left wingers is coming to roost
The problem is NOT globalization. It is the profits of such globalization not being shared with everyone in the society. Share the profits with everyone and it will work. One cannot see a CEO of Yahoo (as an example) get $200 million and then she lays off people - that is unacceptable.
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looking at the reaction coming in from the grown up infants, it seems to me that they were caught up in their own maya-jaal and are unsure how to act now that the illusion is threatening to break.
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NRao wrote: The problem is NOT globalization. It is the profits of such globalization not being shared with everyone in the society. Share the profits with everyone and it will work. One cannot see a CEO of Yahoo (as an example) get $200 million and then she lays off people - that is unacceptable.
Republicans won't fix that though, their tax cuts for rich and trickle down theories etc. Not sure what Trump will do.
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