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prasannasimha wrote:Sara's development seems to be back n track
Good news on SARAS.

They did a lot with little.
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Dinakar Peri ‏@dperi84 2h2 hours ago
#DAC approves 6 multi mission maritime aircraft 4 Coast Guard, cost Rs. 5500 crore. Suites to b designed by DRDO

Dinakar Peri ‏@dperi84 2h2 hours ago
Proposal for 1500 NBC systems for Infantry vehicles worth Rs. 1265 crore cleared by DAC, to be built by #BEL

Dinakar Peri ‏@dperi84 2h2 hours ago
#DAC approves proposal for 55 3D low level light radars designed by #DRDO for Army and IAF, cost Rs. 419 crore

Dinakar Peri ‏@dperi84 2h2 hours ago
DAC headed @manoharparrikar clears proposal for 1 C-17 heavy lift aircraft :eek: 4m @BoeingDefense. Will add to existing 10

Lol, C-17 is already out of production.

https://twitter.com/dperi84
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which 6 multi mission crafts are these? Had they been shortlisted already?
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Nick_S wrote:Dinakar Peri ‏@dperi84 2h2 hours ago
#DAC approves 6 multi mission maritime aircraft 4 Coast Guard, cost Rs. 5500 crore. Suites to b designed by DRDO

Dinakar Peri ‏@dperi84 2h2 hours ago
Proposal for 1500 NBC systems for Infantry vehicles worth Rs. 1265 crore cleared by DAC, to be built by #BEL

Dinakar Peri ‏@dperi84 2h2 hours ago
#DAC approves proposal for 55 3D low level light radars designed by #DRDO for Army and IAF, cost Rs. 419 crore

Dinakar Peri ‏@dperi84 2h2 hours ago
DAC headed @manoharparrikar clears proposal for 1 C-17 heavy lift aircraft :eek: 4m @BoeingDefense. Will add to existing 10

Lol, C-17 is already out of production.

https://twitter.com/dperi84

Huge win for India and DRDO.1500 crores of CBRN gear basically which is DRDO and BEL, 55 radars and six mission suites.

Good going Parrikar sir, services, DRDO and BEL. All worked together.

Also note report of procurements for Special Forces, as i had predicted PMO and MOD will prioritize these. They are the tip of the spear and have proven themselves to Modi and GOI with the strike in Myanmar snd TSP.
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It will be interesting to see which radars. Aslesha and Bharani or all 3D Aslesha variants. Way back in 1997, I had predicted India would steadily indigenize it radars after seeing the effort for Akash. Glad to see it coming true. One step at a time.
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Government to fund defence MSME work up to Rs 10 crore
In the first round, six projects have been identified for the Technology Development Fund (TDF) plan, in which the government will fund the development of technologies or a prototype by selected companies that has to be completed within two years.

The Defence Research and Development Organisation will oversee the execution. Among the projects chosen to initiate the plan are light weight bulletproof materials for the Army that can be used to make bulletproof jackets and vehicles.

Another project is to develop and demonstrate a series of fuel cells to meet different requirements of the Army.
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Nick_S wrote: Lol, C-17 is already out of production.

https://twitter.com/dperi84
There is one "white tail" C-17 available which is being bought in the "Nick" of time - pun intended
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Cybaru wrote:which 6 multi mission crafts are these? Had they been shortlisted already?
Guessing here: Do 228
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shiv wrote:
Nick_S wrote: Lol, C-17 is already out of production.

https://twitter.com/dperi84
There is one "white tail" C-17 available which is being bought in the "Nick" of time - pun intended
Thank starts for that, good thing is that it can immediately join the IAF.
OT, there was option for 6 more IIRC over initial order of 10. If that were the requirement, what will we do for the remaining 5.
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Its been really glad to see the DAC happening on Monthly Basis, but the concern still remains is the conversion of the AON to Contracts.

Thats Pretty Bad, some of critical contracts have been stuck for Yrs and see no light of the day. Hope RM & FM reviews it and get CCS clearance.

Until we have a specified period between AON and CCS Clearance all this will look good only on Paper.

Also dedicated review of DRDO Projects must take Place & accountability must be tagged on them for timely & quality oriented delivery of systems.

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prasannasimha wrote:Sara's development seems to be back n track
Is this chaiwala or news item?
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DRDO brouchure Displayed C-295 based MPA
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Thats what I am thinking but that C295 thing hasn't taken off. Would be great as an MPA, emergency refueler, avro replacement, transport and Do-228 replacement as well. I do hope its not another 6 do-228. They are decent but not enough payload or range.
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Dornier MPA would be ₹ 200 cr each and not ₹ 900 cr each
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Good point Gyan! 200 crores fully kitted out?
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Yes
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brar_w wrote:
Indranil wrote:What does this mean: Tender for GaN HEMT DEVICE CGH40120F

Please reply only if you know this field sufficiently well.
It appears to be for this -

http://www.wolfspeed.com/downloads/dl/f ... 40120f.pdf
Looking at the Freq vs Gain in the specifications, it could be used for L band radars.
But i am no expert of use-cases. I work lower down chain where I interface with manufacturers producing GaN development kits.
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I would expect the specified GaN device to be in US exports control list given the nature of the possible end use.
Reason: I was asked specifically if I work in GaN process when applying for a US visa. I had to declare that the company I work for makes components for power adapters and GaN offers smaller form factors and higher power density.
(Power adapters - the ones that you stick into your power sockets to charge mobile phones)#
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt6XJTyeO28
Now, India to make Carl-Gustaf guns ( upgraded version)
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Admins can we start a separate “Make in India” thread exclusively to list and follow all the projects under this initiative including the civilian ones.
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Neela wrote:
brar_w wrote:
It appears to be for this -

http://www.wolfspeed.com/downloads/dl/f ... 40120f.pdf
Looking at the Freq vs Gain in the specifications, it could be used for L band radars.
But i am no expert of use-cases. I work lower down chain where I interface with manufacturers producing GaN development kits.
There are a few suppliers that now stock up on Cree (WS) and Qorvo GaN RF components and market them in India. Keep in mind that the non ITAR components on offer have more commercial applications. Most of the interesting (military) stuff is ITAR controlled. Even on the PA side there are quite a few GaN products that are not export-controlled, but of course the ones that one is likely to demand almost exclusively for such applications are.


I would expect the specified GaN device to be in US exports control list given the nature of the possible end use.
The product in question doesn't appear to be so. Mouser is marketing in India for ₹ 21,199.50. Cree markets this a lot to telecommunication firms on the commercial side.
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brar_w

Possibly the 120W power output of this device has been superseded by more "power"ful ones and hence made available for commercial use.
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Neela wrote:brar_w

Possibly the 120W power output of this device has been superseded by more "power"ful ones and hence made available for commercial use.
From my understanding the product has been exportable since late 2014 / early 2015 and is widely used commercially across the world. In fact its current usage/demand is more on the commercial side than the defense sector. There are various things they look at for ITAR and export restrictions. From the top of my head wide band gap, high power, high PAE and frequency matters a lot with the higher frequency systems naturally being protected. Commercial market for GaN components will continue to be many times the defense market even as virtually all defense RF components rapidly transition to GaN.

Note that virtually all new ground based AESA radars in the US are GaN, GaAs ones are or have already been upgraded to GaAs (L Band surveilance radars, X-Band TPY-2, and S-Band G/ATOR) all new Electronic Attack solutions are GaN, and all new data-links and communication nodes are being designed around GaN components but the commercial (Base-stations) side is really dictating the market and the demand will continue to outpace the defense side. The shift here is more remarkable than when they transitioned to GaAs especially in the defense radar, electronic warfare, and communications side.

There are plenty of Export restricted, GaN products on Cree, Triquint/Qorvo's product list and of course the 100% defense focused foundries of Raytheon, Northrop, BaE and others. Outside of the F-35 program only Lockheed with its Open Foundry concept goes to Wolfspeed or Qorvo for its GaN components which until recently have revolved around large surveillance radars operating in the L and S bands.
Possibly the 120W power output of this device has been superseded by more "power"ful ones and hence made available for commercial use.
Yes. Note that the particular GaN HEMT product was first made available in the market in 2008 so it's been around for a while and has obviously be superseded by many more modern products on the military and commercial side.

2013 - 500-W, 1200 – 1400-MHz, GaN HEMT, Drain Eff. 68% Power Gain 16dB

Cree releases two new GaN HEMTs for L-Band radar systems

2016 - 800-W, 1200 – 1400-MHz, GaN HEMT, Drain Eff. 65% Power Gain 16dB

Wolfspeed releases highest power L-Band radar GaN HEMT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbSS0AEHWUI
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Credit due to Parrikar for effectively managing the procurement process in MoD. He lives up to his IIT name!

https://www.myind.net/2016-review-modi- ... eparedness
One of the reasons that the current Indian government won a decisive five-year mandate in the 2014 parliamentary elections was because the youth of the country longed for a militarily strong and self-reliant country. Judging by its defense preparedness efforts in the year 2016, the government has met expectations, perhaps exceeded them.

The government is vigorously clearing the defense procurement logjam caused by the paralysis by analysis of the previous government. (Rafale MMRC, M777 lightweight howitzers.) Through regular meetings of the Defense Acquisition Council (DAC), the government is clearing weapon system procurements for the Armed Forces, favoring indigenous manufacture wherever possible. (83 Tejas Mk-1A, 464 Russian T-90MS, etc.)

Upgrade contracts are keeping weapon systems relevant while saving costs. (Kilo Class and Shishumar class subs, Kamov Ka-28 anti-submarine helicopters, BMP-2 Infantry Combat Vehicles etc.) The nature of the MoUs signed and the RFIs released show that the government has its eyes set on the future. (Passive Surveillance System, S-400, etc.)

.We have compiled for our readers a comprehensive list of landmark events during the year that is set to close, to illustrate the government's relentless pursuit of a policy aimed at plugging gaps in defense preparedness caused by years of policy drift, and rejuvenating defense R&D.
For a proper perspective, the list of landmark events has been compiled under the following headings.
Weapon System Inductions
Weapon System Orders
Weapon System Procurement Approvals
Weapon System Upgrades
Weapon System Procurement Pipeline
Indigenous Weapon System Development Landmarks
Indigenous Weapon System Development Setbacks / Delays
- See more at: https://www.myind.net/2016-review-modi- ... ness#.dpuf

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Qatar, India, Italy purchase Raytheon Stinger missiles
WASHINGTON, Dec. 29 (UPI) -- Raytheon has received a $207.9 million contract to produce Stinger missiles and supporting equipment for foreign military sales to Qatar, India and Italy.

The contract covers production for Stinger FIM-92H Block 1 missiles, FIM-92F Block 1 missiles, spares, captive flight trainers, and other training devices. Work is set to be performed at Raytheon's facility in Tucson, Ariz., and is expected to be complete by April 30, 2020.
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Why?? We already have SA-16 and 18. Is it for the AH-64D?
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Bheeshma wrote:Why?? We already have SA-16 and 18. Is it for the AH-64D?
Yes. For the AH-64E.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/in ... elicopters
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 264990.cms

US offers big-ticket military tie-ups with India
op government sources said the two projects would be discussed threadbare in the ensuing DTTI meeting (probably February) after the Donald Trump administration takes over in the US on January 20. India has already shown interest in the US offer for participation in its "future vertical-lift (FVL) aircraft" programme, which includes development of five different helicopters or "capability sets" over the next 15 years at a cost of around $8 billion, said the sources.The US has also suggested that the future infantry combat vehicle (FICV) project can be a trilateral venture with the inclusion of Israel. India is in a wait-and-watch mode about this proposal since it's trying to finalise its own Rs 60,000-crore FICV project, with two private sector players and the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) in the reckoning for prototype development, as was earlier reported by TOI+ .
The earlier projects offered by the US under the DTTI were quite modest in nature despite India looking for "unique and transformative military technologies" to give its armed forces a decisive edge over its rivals. With the US now officially designating India as a "major defence partner" at par with its closest allies to facilitate the transfer of advanced technology, the two new projects are quite ambitious in scope.But India is unlikely to go in for all the five types of helicopters, which range from light-weight to heavy-lift ones. India and Russia, for instance, have already finalised the production of 200 Kamov-226T light-utility helicopters worth $1 billion, while Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. is also independently tasked to develop 187 similar choppers.India has also inked $3.1 billion deal for 22 Apache attack and 15 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters from the US, which are slated for delivery in 2019-2020. Nevertheless, the Indian armed forces are in the hunt for 1,200 helicopters of different types over the next 15-20 years to replace their ageing fleets at an estimated cost of over Rs 1.5 lakh crore."We can choose the kind of helicopters that suit our interests. Moreover, one to two products are also being identified under each of the seven joint working groups under the DTTI," said a source. Of the first four "pathfinder projects", India has finalised two —mobile generators and nextgen protective ensemble — worth $2 million.
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I wonder if India could convince Japan to jointly develop the AMCA.
Surely some of their technologies and even training apparatus developed for their F-3 could be repurposed for the AMCA.
Their F-3 fighter as of 2014 :

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^^^ I allways thought it would be an excellent idea to work with Japan to develop Indian aeronautics industry and South Korea to develop tanks.
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Japan will continue to hurt themselves with unviable go it alone projects rather than work with india
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The demonstrator is not the F-3. It's something they are using to develop and test some of the potential capabilities. They will wait and decide on what to do with the F-3 and a go-no-go decision will probably come closer to the end of the decade.

Japan has the technical capability to make a fairly decent 5th generation aircraft but for them it's always been about the cost. I wouldn't yet rule out an F-2 like F-35 variant either or them looking to see what comes of the USAF PCA and USN FA-XX studies and analysis. The political climate that prevented them from getting the F-22 is unlikely to exist now and they could well join any future US program as partners.
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Singha wrote:Japan will continue to hurt themselves with unviable go it alone projects rather than work with india
At the rate we negotiate for JV and purchase which might span like 5-10 years or may be more plus if it involes more complicated TOT/Manuf etc ( Rafale , Maitri , Barak-8 ,FGFA etc ), Japan with whome we dont have any significant defence cooperation would probably be better off going alone , they will probably end up hurting themself and their industry more cooperating with us in a country where they says delay of few seconds is considered as abnormal.
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Put the suggestion forward to the Japani with a clear plan of action of how both countries could cooperate on a 5th gen aircraft project.
Both countries can then absorb the planes with India doing so in sizeable numbers.

If they are not interested, then there is no point wasting time talking defense co-operation with them hereafter.

This is a better plan than buying 4th generation aircraft from countries claiming they will help us make a 5th generation aircraft.
All they will do is pitch a 4th and later 5th gen plane they have already developed and we'll stick a "Made in India" on it after some screw driver giri.

The only stumbling block are questions regarding the competency of DRDO and what DRDO will produce as India's contribution to such a Indo-Japanese project. Hopefully DRDO won't leave Japan to do all the hard work while relaxing doing irrelavant, simple stuff technologically speaking.

It has to be a shared effort with India putting in some serious technologically competent stuff (home grown AESA radar, upgraded Kaveri engines, air-to-air missiles, flight control software, stealth composite construction..etc). Japan being masters in electronics could probably let it rip on customized micro-electronics & sensor development, EW, ECM, ECCM, Sensor fusion, Engine design (with India), new gen weapons, network centric warfare infrastructure). Perhaps both countries could even delve into 6th gen aircraft technology like Google Deepmind type Artificial Intelligence for the aircraft/weapons.

It would be a great project of technological development for both countries. But the babus have to make a PROPER PITCH to the Japani or they will laugh it off. If they f- that up sending a memo without a clear plan, its a wasted opportunity. Take this up at the highest levels with the Japani govt.
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For Japan the question vis-a-vis the F-3 is one of them wanting to develop something that is 'their own' and not of collaboration. There are plenty of nations including the US with whom they have a security treaty and/or long standing defense industrial relationships no less that are willing to cooperate. Japan has also flirted with the idea of doing a hybrid development project where there is significant outside technical assistance through which they can field a better, and more affordable F-3. This option is also on the table. In fact just recently they floated an RFI to the international market asking for information.

If they do decide to go it alone, then strategic independence vis-a-vis 5th generation technology will be the driving force and not cost. A cooperation with India won't fit that construct. If they decide to open the program up for international participation they will have plenty of options including companies and design teams with whom they have long standing cooperative agreements. Then there are also advantages associated with sharing and interoperability vis a vis their F-15's and F-35's already involved in licensed production.

Boeing, Lockheed Martin emerge as early rivals for Japan's fighter contest ; JDW/July16
Boeing and Lockheed Martin have confirmed their interest in pursuing the Japan Air Self-Defense Force (JASDF) requirement to replace its Mitsubishi F-2 multirole fighter aircraft.

Speaking to IHS Jane's on 19 July, the US corporations said that they will aim to leverage their significant respective footprints in Japan in bidding for a programme, which could be worth about USD20 billion.

The Japanese Ministry of Defence (MoD) has recently issued a request for information (RfI) and has said it expects to make a decision regarding the JASDF's "future fighter aircraft" by fiscal year 2018, which commences April 2018.

The F-2 was produced in the 2000s in a collaboration programme between Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) and Lockheed Martin and is expected to be retired from about 2027.A spokesperson from Boeing told IHS Jane's that the company was in the process of reviewing the F-2 replacement requirements. The spokesperson added that Boeing is "constantly looking for ways to grow [its] relationships and increase our presence in Japan, and are open to discussions with the customer to see how we can help meet their security needs".

A spokesperson from Lockheed Martin said, "Japan is seeking information from a variety of potential industry partners and we are certainly interested in another potential opportunity to bolster our long-standing partnership with Japan." The spokesperson added, "We are proud of our successful partnerships with Japan on the F-35 programme and MHI on the F-2 programme. We look forward to learning more about Japan's plans as discussions progress."

The RfI was issued in June to international combat aircraft manufacturers as part of a study into jet fighter technologies. The RfI closed earlier in July, with the companies - also likely to include Eurofighter and Saab - expected to present their information by the end of August.

The RfI is intended to support consideration of available combat aircraft as well as gauge international companies' willingness to participate in a collaborative programme as the MoD decides whether to develop the F-2 replacement indigenously or to enter a joint development programme with a foreign firm based on an existing fighter aircraft design. An import programme, followed by licenced production in Japan, is also a possibility as is the further development of Japan's experimental X-2 fighter aircraft, a prototype of which first flew in April 2016.

Production of the F-2 ended in September 2011, after the manufacture of about 90 aircraft. The MoD has said that no decisions have been made about how many replacement aircraft will be required, although up to 200 units is possible.
Given the long-standing and strong strategic, diplomatic, industrial, and military ties between Japan and the United States it seems probable that either Boeing or Lockheed Martin will be selected by Japan to partner on the programme to replace the F-2.

In October 2015 Boeing was selected by the Japan MoD to supply its KC-46A Pegasus aircraft to meet the JASDF's KC-X requirement for additional air-to-air refuelling and transport capability. The Foreign Military Sale is worth about USD520 million and will be supported by Boeing's extensive Japanese partnership network.

Boeing has teamings with about 65 Japanese companies. These ties have been forged in a number of major local production programmes including those to build F-15J/DJ Eagles, CH-47 Chinook helicopters, and AH-64DJP Apache attack helicopters.

Lockheed Martin has built up a similar network of industrial partnerships based on links with both Tier 1 manufacturers such as MHI and Tier 2/3 suppliers. The US corporation now describes Japan as its biggest international defence market, with a list of sales of major platforms many of which have been built in Japan. These include the F-35 fighter aircraft, which Japan ordered in 2012, the Aegis combat system, P-3 Orion maritime patrol aircraft, the Patriot Advanced Capability-3 interceptor and the MK 41 Vertical Launching System.
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japan may get all the collaborations but they need to produce it in numbers nad reasonable costs - and thats where India can come in (amrika is not going to bu

they currently spend gazillion dollars for what is a a relatively small numbers
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Affordability can be brought in by buying future block variants of the F-35 since they have an established FACO which is months away from handing its first aircraft over. They share a local and global supply network. F-3 for them would be something that preserves their industrial capability to design, develop and produce modern fighter aircraft. The requirements could be anywhere from 90 aircraft to 200 aircraft. Depending upon how they line this project up options available to them could be to tap into established supply chains (that already bring in economies of scale) or to build things from scratch. If they go for the latter, it would be for strategic reasons and here sharing production and dividing up work runs contrary to the overall objective. If they want to do that, they already have a working model in the JSF which they could modify much the same way they did with the F-2. They will either work with one of the US OEM's or go on their own.

Nation's pursue military hardware development programs for strategic reasons bypassing 'business cases' all the time. We have quite recent examples of that. The US's refusal to sell F-22's to Japan and Israel to bring economies of scale, the French decision to go it alone on the Rafale despite massive EOS's offered on the Typhoon program, and the various other strategic programs nations pursue at massive cost. Japan in 2012, committed to a large scale industrial partnership on the F-35 where there industry supplies to the global program and they assemble affordable 5th generation aircraft utilizing its domestic and global supply chain. If they decide to pursue just a handful of technologies for the F-3 for self-reliance reasons (and not the entire project) they'll tie up with a US OEM since there is a strong strategic relationship, and industrial cooperation is well established. Joining hands with AdA/HAL on the AMCA brings little to them since they have options of teaming up far more experienced design houses and MIC's that have experience in this domain. Much like France with the Rafale, a higher cost on account of lower production volume is a reality they have to sign off on for strategic reasons if they decide to go down this path. Even if they allow export, the F-3 is unlikely to be a runaway success given how much of the 5th generation market would have already been captured by the US, Russia and possibly China.

A better cooperative path may be to look at developing key technologies in a collaboration with the Japanese MIC much the same way DTTI is trying to chart out a path on propulsion. You could use this to focus on fighter design and components that can be used by the AMCA and the F-3 but if someone thinks that they are likely to partner with India on a particular advanced fighter project then that's really not going to happen. If the Japanese go down this path, they have already issued an RFI for technical assistance. Not sure if HAL got this but it would be highly unlikely.
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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Post by Austin »

Neshant wrote:Put the suggestion forward to the Japani with a clear plan of action of how both countries could cooperate on a 5th gen aircraft project.
Both countries can then absorb the planes with India doing so in sizeable numbers.
To explain in your language , thats like telling bankers to drop all ponzi scheme and stop leeching money from productivity part of the society ...Wont happen :rotfl:
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