Russian Weapons & Military Technology

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 20 Jan 2017 00:09

Russia developing Khishchnik high-speed torpedo to replace VA-111 Shkval super-cavitating torpedo
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... rpedo.html

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 24 Jan 2017 10:24

100000k TOn AC with T-50s

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 25 Jan 2017 12:55

The Engine Tests For the Il-112 Have Begun

http://www.ruaviation.com/docs/3/2017/1/24/123/

Zynda · Post by **Zynda** » 26 Jan 2017 22:13

MiG-35 was unveiled today (or will be unveiled tomorrow Jan 27th).

First-Rate MiG-35 Multirole Jetfighter to Join Russia's Fleet

The MiG-35 multirole jetfighter fully meets the demands of modern-day aerial combat and will be a welcome addition to Russia’s fleet of light frontline fighters, the Russian Airspace Forces’ former deputy commander, Col. Gen. Nikolai Antoshkin told RIA.

“This plane is much needed because it is more lightweight compared to the Su-27, Su-30, Su-34 and Su-35 fighters and it will be a good addition to our fleet of frontline fighters I wish I could fly this amazing plane myself,” Nikolai Antoshkin said.

He added that a presentation of the MiG-35 for potential foreign buyers will be held on January 27.

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 27 Jan 2017 01:10

Full flight display of the MiG-35

Very impressive flying display. Slightly smoking RD-33MK engines though.

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 27 Jan 2017 05:44

MiG-35UB

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 27 Jan 2017 09:19

Mig-35 will have new LTCC based AESA Radar

Janes: http://www.janes.com/article/65271/airs ... 35-fighter

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 27 Jan 2017 14:46

Austin wrote:Mig-35 will have new LTCC based AESA Radar

Janes: http://www.janes.com/article/65271/airs ... 35-fighter

The receivers and transmitters of the Zhuk-AMEh have been manufactured by LTCC [low-temperature co-fired ceramic] technologies," the source continued, adding, "They are installed on lightweight ceramic plates that allow the AESA a width reduction of 10 cm [with power sources and control elements]. The radar is comprised of three units, namely the AESA radar, a processing unit, and a composer."

Is this LTCC better than GeN?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 27 Jan 2017 15:03

Dont know about GaN but compared to GaA module they seem to be cheaper to produce and are very compact and lighter

The advantages of LTCC:

http://www.imst.com/imst/en/development ... or=2110051

http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/1-2015/item2/article1/

Q: What kind of progress has your company made in upgrading your manufacturing and testing facilities?

I would like to highlight two technologies that are new to us, and that we are actively rolling out at this time. One is low-temperature co-fired ceramics (LTCC). This technology enables us to manufacture electronic components in 3D rather than in two dimensions. In essence, we have launched automatic 3D assembly of semiconductor elements for our hardware. This technology simplifies production and achieves a major reduction in the size of our products. The second important technology we have launched is the production of fiber-optic elements. The active phased arrays we make have internal components that exchange digital and analogue data at tremendous rates. To support those data exchange rates, we need high-quality and jamming-resistant fiber-optic links. And to use that data transport environment, we need components that convert electrical signals into optic and vice versa, as well as components that combine and split those signals. Now we can manufacture the required fiber-optic components independently. That has enabled us significantly to reduce the cost of our products, among other things. In the future we plan to ramp up the production of fiber-optic components, so as to offer them to other companies.

As for our experimental and testing facilities, we have augmented them with some excellent new measuring instruments used for electromagnetic compatibility testing.

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 27 Jan 2017 15:57

Manish_Sharma wrote:
Is this LTCC better than GeN?

It refers to the substrate and packaging and not GaAs or GaN. LTCC is now widely used in the automobile, telecommunication and medical industry as well in military and space RF applications.

In the Western Military radar market they (ARPA/DARPA) began exploring high density packaging and to reduce the size, weight and cost of RF T/R Modules in the early 1990's. They switched to 3D Tile T/R Architectures using different approaches circa late 1990's. Raytheon for example produced only 18 AESA radars (AN/APG-63(V)2 that IOC'd in 2000) before switching all of their airborne AESA families (AN/APG-63(V)3 and AN/APG-79) to the new architecture.

By doing so on the F-15C AESA radar for example they managed to reduce the weight of the new antenna by 25% and halved the antenna array depth. This, compared to the older AESA (V)2 radar.

https://s24.postimg.org/fv26lm8qt/POS_ARPA_NG.png

http://www.dupont.com/products-and-serv ... rials.html

DuPont, others see high-density interconnect use --Ceramic substrates get push Electronic Engineering Times; Manhasset - Apr 10, 1995

Geneva - Two European companies and the European branches of two U.S. manufacturers have joined hands to promote a low-temperature, co-fired ceramic (LTCC) technology already in use in military markets as a high-density interconnect for volume applications, especially automotive.

Spearheaded by Du Pont de Nemours International SA, based here, the alliance includes IBM Deutschland Produktion GmbH (Sindelfingen, Germany), Sorep SA (Chateaubourg, France) and Alcatel SEL (Nurnberg, Germany). Alcatel will make substrates based on LTCC through a separate agreement with IBM Deutschland.

With the formation of the alliance, IBM Deutschland, which uses LTCC technology internally, will enter the merchant market and provide customers with high-volume LTCC production capacity.

The companies plan to cooperate in research and standards setting as well as in building the infrastructure to make LTCC available to high-volume users, said Jean Cicognani, European LTCC business manager for Du Pont.

Du Pont makes an LTCC product called Green Tape, a paperlike dry ceramic film that can be cut and screen-printed with thick-film conductive paste before being assembled and fired to form a multilayer substrate.

"Green Tape has made good inroads in military and professional applications," said Cicognani. "Now we are interested in a leapfrog advance into volume. Certain applications, particularly in the automotive market, need high performance at reasonable cost."Introduced in 1986, LTCC now offers capability for four- to 20-layer circuits with 100-micron lines and vias. Standard IC die are mounted on the surface and connected with wire bonding. Typically, chip capacitors and resistors are mounted on the reverse side as in printed-circuit boards, but with finer geometries, denser interconnect and higher operating temperatures. The latter is useful under the hood for automotive manufacturers.

Among the alliance's goals is to investigate the use of buried capacitors within the stacked LTCC structure using special dielectric layers, such as glass ceramic or alumina to provide islands of appropriate capacitance the interconnect can tap into.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 28 Jan 2017 12:11

Official presentation of the fighter MiG-35

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 28 Jan 2017 12:13

Mig-35 Presentation and First Flight

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 28 Jan 2017 12:15

Mikoyan MiG-35 in Full Details: Specifications - Performances - Weapons - Sensors

Zynda · Post by **Zynda** » 28 Jan 2017 14:37

I don't think IAF/IN will ever want to touch MiG series jets with a ten foot pole in future. Anyways, the newer RD-33MKM engine which is designated for -35 will see entry onlee in 2019. I think as of now, it is carrying mech antenna Zukh radar although the link posted by Austin does mention Zhuk-AE AESA radar being offered as well. I have a feeling that this jet may see service with PAF in around 5 years from now i.e. if TSP can pay or Chinese are willing to pay for the jets

. Will make an affordable and prolly less controversial buy compared to Su-35s.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 28 Jan 2017 17:02

Considering mig is opening a full fledge service centre in India , they might just buy more mig-29/35 if that brings serviceability up along the lines of mki.

But i won't mind if iaf and IN buys more Rafale and standardise its fleet

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Jan 2017 20:29

Something about armata has spooked the germans who are the self proclaimed tank gurus of nato. Rheinmetall is demoing a 130mm cannon and a long apds sabot

kit · Post by **kit** » 28 Jan 2017 20:56

Singha wrote:Something about armata has spooked the germans who are the self proclaimed tank gurus of nato. Rheinmetall is demoing a 130mm cannon and a long apds sabot

apparently the UK doesnt like it either .. neither the armata ..nor the germans

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 28 Jan 2017 23:36

Singha wrote:Something about armata has spooked the germans who are the self proclaimed tank gurus of nato. Rheinmetall is demoing a 130mm cannon and a long apds sabot

Actually 130 mm Gun was tested by West in late 80's early 90's when it was clear that Soviet was build a tank with 152 mm Gun , The SU tested such gun during the same era and there are prototypes of T-95 tank with 152 mm Gun tested but never fielded post collapse of SU.

So the gun itself is nothing new for either side but Armata now has got a sense of urgency , The Armata designer has mentioned that if required they they upgun the current platform to 152 mm gun ......Currently neither side would really see the need to upgun its tank.

Here is official picture of T-95 Tank , The first tank to have a 152 mm Gun and 3 man Crew inside the tank hull with unmanned turret something Armata just copied it.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 28 Jan 2017 23:38

A comparision between Mig-29UB and Mig-35UB

https://twitter.com/GAshwaniShukla/stat ... 8407861248

Sid · Post by **Sid** » 29 Jan 2017 06:12

Is it me or Russians seems to be peddling Mig 29K as Mig 35?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachmen ... mig29m.jpg

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 29 Jan 2017 13:56

The pics of actually of Mig-35 for MMRCA

Not much different in airframe but differing in Avionics/Radar/Weapons system

Check this viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7101&start=720#p2107561

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 29 Jan 2017 13:58

TsAGI unveils new concept of flying wing heavy transport aircraft

http://www.airrecognition.com/index.php ... craft.html

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 29 Jan 2017 20:41

http://ameriforce.net/new-russian-subma ... d-october/

New Russian submarine is quiet, but not quite the Red October
14 hours agoby Bill Worth
Russia Is Set To Launch Its Quietest Submarine Yet
By Terrell Jermaine Starr, FoxtrotAlpha.Jalpnik.com

The fourth Yasen-class submarine, the Krasnoyarsk, has passed critical tests of its structures and pressure hull, according to Russia’s TASS news agency. It’s supposed to be the most quiet nuclear-powered attack sub ever to enter the Russian fleet.

As TASS reports, the Krasnoyarsk’s pressure hull withstood hydraulics tests and that further work is being planned for installation and assembly. The hull is built with low magnetic steel to help it avoid detection, according to The Diplomat. Keep in mind that Magnetic Anomaly Detectors were a large part of Cold War submarine hunting.
Russia has five Yasen-class subs under construction at the Sevmash Shipyard, in Severodvinsk, Russia. The only one in service at the moment is the K-329 Severodvinsk. That boat is 390 feet long and 13,800 tons; it carries a crew of 32 officers and 58 enlisted submariners. It has “The vessel has eight torpedo tubes, four of which are 650mm tubes while the rest are 533mm tubes,” according to The National Interest.

As far as speed, it can travel as fast as 35 knots, and is considered the fastest sub in Russia’s fleet. Russia has had much faster subs back in the day, like the K-222 that could supposedly top 44 knots underwater, though that almost certainly wasn’t very quiet.
That said, the Yasen class subs have alarmed U.S. Navy officials over fears the Russians are encroaching on their decades-long underwater dominance. Rear Admiral Dave Johnson, Naval Sea Systems Command’s program executive officer, was so impressed with the Severodvinsk that he had a model of the sub made for his office just so he could look at it every day.

But the Severodvinsk is not exactly a dominant competitor with America’s top subs when it comes to silence. It doesn’t move through the water with less noise than the U.S. Navy’s Seawolf- or Virginia-class submarines, Navy sources told The National Interest in March. The Virginia carries 15 officers and 117 enlisted men. As far as its own armament, the Virginia has space for twelve VLS tubes and four torpedo tubes, the latter of which can fire Mark 48 ADCAP torpedoes.

Though neither may be as quiet as subs with AIPs (air-independent propulsion system), that are supposed to be so quiet that they can skip detection. The U.S. Navy has none of these AIP subs, while China reported has as many as 15 of them. To get a feel of the technology, the U.S. Navy leased one of Sweden’s AIPs, HSwMS Gotland in 2005 to see how well it would stack against its vessels.
As Foxtrot Alpha reported in 2014, the Navy didn’t fair so well:

By mid summer of 2005 the Gotland arrived in San Diego and war games immediately commenced. Apparently the Navy got more than they were bargaining for when it came to finding and engaging the stealthy little sub. The Gotland virtually “sunk” many US nuclear fast attack subs, destroyers frigates, cruisers and even made it into the ‘red zone’ beyond the last ring of anti-submarine defenses within a carrier strike group. Although it was rumored she got many simulated shots off on various US super-carriers, one large-scale training exercise in particular with the then brand new USS Ronald Reaganended with the little sub making multiple attack runs on the super-carrier, before slithering away without ever being detected.

The lesson was clear: bigger and nuclear doesn’t always win.

As for the Yasen-class subs, they may not be a top competitor against the Navy’s submarine fleet at the moment, but the Russians are slowly getting the technology down. While the Severodvinsk may not be able to compete with the Seawolf or Virginia-class subs, the Krasnoyarsk may be the one that finally does.

By Terrell Jermaine Starr, FoxtrotAlpha.Jalpnik.com

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 29 Jan 2017 20:45

http://ameriforce.net/new-russian-subma ... d-october/

New Russian submarine is quiet, but not quite the Red October
14 hours agoby Bill Worth
Russia Is Set To Launch Its Quietest Submarine Yet
By Terrell Jermaine Starr, FoxtrotAlpha.Jalpnik.com

The fourth Yasen-class submarine, the Krasnoyarsk, has passed critical tests of its structures and pressure hull, according to Russia’s TASS news agency. It’s supposed to be the most quiet nuclear-powered attack sub ever to enter the Russian fleet.

As TASS reports, the Krasnoyarsk’s pressure hull withstood hydraulics tests and that further work is being planned for installation and assembly. The hull is built with low magnetic steel to help it avoid detection, according to The Diplomat. Keep in mind that Magnetic Anomaly Detectors were a large part of Cold War submarine hunting.
Russia has five Yasen-class subs under construction at the Sevmash Shipyard, in Severodvinsk, Russia. The only one in service at the moment is the K-329 Severodvinsk. That boat is 390 feet long and 13,800 tons; it carries a crew of 32 officers and 58 enlisted submariners. It has “The vessel has eight torpedo tubes, four of which are 650mm tubes while the rest are 533mm tubes,” according to The National Interest.

As far as speed, it can travel as fast as 35 knots, and is considered the fastest sub in Russia’s fleet. Russia has had much faster subs back in the day, like the K-222 that could supposedly top 44 knots underwater, though that almost certainly wasn’t very quiet.
That said, the Yasen class subs have alarmed U.S. Navy officials over fears the Russians are encroaching on their decades-long underwater dominance. Rear Admiral Dave Johnson, Naval Sea Systems Command’s program executive officer, was so impressed with the Severodvinsk that he had a model of the sub made for his office just so he could look at it every day.

But the Severodvinsk is not exactly a dominant competitor with America’s top subs when it comes to silence. It doesn’t move through the water with less noise than the U.S. Navy’s Seawolf- or Virginia-class submarines, Navy sources told The National Interest in March. The Virginia carries 15 officers and 117 enlisted men. As far as its own armament, the Virginia has space for twelve VLS tubes and four torpedo tubes, the latter of which can fire Mark 48 ADCAP torpedoes.

Though neither may be as quiet as subs with AIPs (air-independent propulsion system), that are supposed to be so quiet that they can skip detection. The U.S. Navy has none of these AIP subs, while China reported has as many as 15 of them. To get a feel of the technology, the U.S. Navy leased one of Sweden’s AIPs, HSwMS Gotland in 2005 to see how well it would stack against its vessels.
As Foxtrot Alpha reported in 2014, the Navy didn’t fair so well:

By mid summer of 2005 the Gotland arrived in San Diego and war games immediately commenced. Apparently the Navy got more than they were bargaining for when it came to finding and engaging the stealthy little sub. The Gotland virtually “sunk” many US nuclear fast attack subs, destroyers frigates, cruisers and even made it into the ‘red zone’ beyond the last ring of anti-submarine defenses within a carrier strike group. Although it was rumored she got many simulated shots off on various US super-carriers, one large-scale training exercise in particular with the then brand new USS Ronald Reaganended with the little sub making multiple attack runs on the super-carrier, before slithering away without ever being detected.

The lesson was clear: bigger and nuclear doesn’t always win.

As for the Yasen-class subs, they may not be a top competitor against the Navy’s submarine fleet at the moment, but the Russians are slowly getting the technology down. While the Severodvinsk may not be able to compete with the Seawolf or Virginia-class subs, the Krasnoyarsk may be the one that finally does.

By Terrell Jermaine Starr, FoxtrotAlpha.Jalpnik.com

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 02 Feb 2017 11:56

Su-34

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Feb 2017 19:31

MiG-35

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 03 Feb 2017 02:49

Russia reveals export ambitions for MiG-35

Russia has rolled out its first RAC MiG-35 fighter and announced its intention to offer the multirole type to a host of potential export customers, including India.

Staged at the airframer’s Lukhovitsy site near Moscow on 27 January, the milestone event was attended by officials including Russian air force chief Col Gen Victor Bondarev and delegations from more than 30 countries. United Aircraft identifies these as having including representatives from nations including China, India, Peru and Vietnam.

..

RAC MiG had proposed the MiG-35 during India’s medium multirole combat aircraft competition, before the type was ruled out of contention for the potentially 126-unit deal. New Delhi ultimately acquired 36 Dassault Rafales, but has identified a new requirement for an additional light fighter, with the Lockheed Martin F-16 and Saab Gripen E as likely candidates.

Russia’s deputy prime minister, Dmitry Rogozin, says Moscow is ready to again offer the MiG-35 to New Delhi, under the terms of its “Make in India” industrial strategy. A bilateral industry conference is to be held in the potential customer nation early this year, he reveals, to cover aspects including joint ventures, production and maintenance.
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Austin · Post by **Austin** » 03 Feb 2017 11:45

AJT/Armed variant Yak-130

IJT SR-10

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 Feb 2017 13:20

if the pakis cannot get the J10 due to concerns over revealing latest cheen tech to america, they will definitely try for and get the Mig35

russia will tell india we already dealt you the Flanker and you can buy the FGFA too.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 03 Feb 2017 13:28

Singha wrote:if the pakis cannot get the J10 due to concerns over revealing latest cheen tech to america, they will definitely try for and get the Mig35

russia will tell india we already dealt you the Flanker and you can buy the FGFA too.

Seriously they dont have money for J-10 which Chinese will happily subsidize it much less Mig-35 where they will have to pay hard cash.

They are upgrading F-16 via Turkey and they have some decent F-16 fleet with AMRAAM , They best hope is JF-17 and block variants with AESA etc.

I think they are doing the right thing by not investing in J-10 or something else even the F-16 , IAF will pulvarise PAF in any offensive mission inside India or for that matter even conventional battle over Pakistani skies in due course of time , So they are better off with a defensive ORBAT involving F-16/JF-17 as upper and lower tier.

They are spending money on their Nuclear Forces building new IRBM and improving their nuclear forces and are buying Submarine from China of Yuan class which is the best bet for them and wise use of little money they have. That way they will think they can deter India and spend money on Hafeez Sayeed and company who are more successful in kill with thousand cuts type by supporting Terrorism in India and Kashmir that is their conventional doctorine

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 03 Feb 2017 14:28

Just a Nice Video on Su-34

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 03 Feb 2017 18:16

I love the "platypus",SU-34's looks.Can't understand why the IAF don't want bombers.

Answer to why BMos hasn't been exported to third countries as yet...we've scoffed the lot!

https://in.rbth.com/economics/defence/2 ... ies_691723

BrahMos missiles may be supplied to third countries
30 January 2017 ANUSHKA SETHI
Potential clients include Vietnam, Chile, South Africa and the UAE.

BrahMos developing hypersonic reusable missiles
With India in MTCR, BrahMos range to be more lethal
BrahMos add on to Indian Air Force after March

Vietnam is looking at India to supply the BrahMos missiles to meet its immediate requirement. Source: Boris Egorov / RIR
The idea of exporting BrahMos missiles to third countries was discussed in 2016. Source: RIR
BrahMos missiles, which are jointly produced by Russia and India, may be supplied to third countries, Alexander Leonov, Chief Executive and General Designer of the Machine-Building Research and Development Consortium told TASS on Jan. 27.

According to Leonov, delivery to third countries was constrained by the fact that the Indian Army had bought most of the missiles.
He added that delivery to third countries would be possible with an increase in manufacturing capacity for the venture.

The idea of exporting BrahMos missiles to third countries was already discussed in 2016. Potential clients include the UAE, Vietnam, South Africa and Chile.

FGFA may be armed with BrahMos cruise missiles
Alexander Leonov confirmed plans to increase the range of the missile. Media reports in early January indicated that the range of the BrahMos missile was likely to be increased from 300 to 600 km. According to Leonov, the implementation will take two to three years.

Leonov also spoke about the development of a lightweight version of the BrahMos missile, which can be installed on the torpedo tubes of submarines and the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA). Installation is also possible on the MiG-35, but a study needs to be conducted for this, Leonov said.

BrahMos missiles are designed and produced by the Indian-Russian Joint Venture BrahMos Aerospace. It was formed in 1998 by India’s Defense Research and Development Organization and Russia’s NPO Mashinostroyenia.

BrahMos Aerospace is exhibiting naval and land variants of BrahMos system, which have been inducted in the Indian Army and Navy.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 06 Feb 2017 11:10

Came Across this PAK-DA design from UAC 2015 Annual Report

Full Report here http://uacrussia.ru/uac_ar_2015_en

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 06 Feb 2017 11:44

If PAK-DA Planform shown is correct then its based on improvised T-4MS Design

http://testpilot.ru/russia/sukhoi/t/4/ms/t4ms_e.htm

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 06 Feb 2017 17:03

Good news for the IN. Sounds amazing as many of the Brit. warships are of recent origin,supposedly with stealth features. It also speaks volumes for Ru sonars.

British warships 'so noisy' Russian submarines can hear them 100 miles away, investigation finds

Type 45 destroyers HMS Dragon, left, and HMS Diamond

Laura Hughes, political correspondent
5 FEBRUARY 2017 • 11:15AM
Britain's ability to defend itself against a major military attack has been called into question after an investigation found Navy warships are so loud they can be heard 100 miles away by Russian submarines.

Rear Admiral Chris Parry, a former director of operational capability for the Ministry of Defence, said the £1 billion a piece Type 45 destroyers are “as noisy as hell” and sound like "a box of spanners" underwater.

It comes amid warnings that years of defence cuts and expensive procurement contracts with a small number of large defence firms, has the left the military with an "existential minimum" amount of equipment.

The Type 45 destroyer HMS Duncan being assisted by dockyard tugs CREDIT: RAYMOND WERGAN
The Ministry of Defence spent £3.5bn on each of the Army's Ajax tanks, but they are unable to fit on board transport aircraft without needing to be dismantled, according to an investigation by the Sunday Times.

A further £1.2 billion was spent on 54 Watchkeeper reconnaissance drones, which haven’t entered frontline service for 12 years.

General Sir Richard Barrons, a former commander of Joint Forces Command, has called on the Government to "re-bench" the armed forces.

He said: "You are dealing with a legacy of iterative hollowing out, which has reached a point where the frog has boiled."

Long-rumoured problems with the Navy’s fleet of six Type 45 destroyers that left them total powerless were confirmed early this year.

The Ministry of Defence issued a statement admitting “reliability issues” had affected the ships and said that it was considering upgrades to the vessels to make them more reliable.

Sir Richard Barrons said defence cuts had left the military with an "existential minimum" amount of equipment and supplies CREDIT: HARLAND QUARRINGTON/MOD
The warships were originally designed to work in the cool waters of the North Atlantic, but in hotter climates, the jet engines have experienced problems with heat, causing them to shut down.

Admiral Parry said: “We used to put little wooden wedges between the hatchclips and the hatches in my destroyer to stop them rattling so we could keep the noise down."

“We have forgotten all about it — it’s crazy. Noise suppression has been probably the biggest dirty secret since the end of the Cold War that people have been cheerfully ignoring.”

The Ministry of Defence ordered 54 Watchkeeper reconnaissance drones in 2005 in an £847m deal to provide surveillance and reconnaissance for troops.

The drones can beam back high definition images as they fly up to 16,000ft above the battlefield, but technical and safety delays have meant that apart from a brief stint in Afghanistan, the aircraft will not enter full service until this year.

An MOD spokesperson said: "Britain's defence budget is the biggest in Europe and it is growing every year, we are investing £178 billion as the UK steps up globally.

"We are focused on maintaining an affordable programme and getting the best value for the taxpayer to deliver the cutting-edge kit our Armed Forces need to keep Britain safe."

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 06 Feb 2017 17:15

The warships were originally designed to work in the cool waters of the North Atlantic, but in hotter climates, the jet engines have experienced problems with heat, causing them to shut down.

Now where have we heard this before

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 06 Feb 2017 17:21

Philip wrote:Good news for the IN. Sounds amazing as many of the Brit. warships are of recent origin,supposedly with stealth features. It also speaks volumes for Ru sonars.

British warships 'so noisy' Russian submarines can hear them 100 miles away, investigation finds

Type 45 destroyers HMS Dragon, left, and HMS Diamond

Laura Hughes, political correspondent
5 FEBRUARY 2017 • 11:15AM
Britain's ability to defend itself against a major military attack has been called into question after an investigation found Navy warships are so loud they can be heard 100 miles away by Russian submarines.

Rear Admiral Chris Parry, a former director of operational capability for the Ministry of Defence, said the £1 billion a piece Type 45 destroyers are “as noisy as hell” and sound like "a box of spanners" underwater.

It comes amid warnings that years of defence cuts and expensive procurement contracts with a small number of large defence firms, has the left the military with an "existential minimum" amount of equipment.

The Type 45 destroyer HMS Duncan being assisted by dockyard tugs CREDIT: RAYMOND WERGAN
The Ministry of Defence spent £3.5bn on each of the Army's Ajax tanks, but they are unable to fit on board transport aircraft without needing to be dismantled, according to an investigation by the Sunday Times.

A further £1.2 billion was spent on 54 Watchkeeper reconnaissance drones, which haven’t entered frontline service for 12 years.

General Sir Richard Barrons, a former commander of Joint Forces Command, has called on the Government to "re-bench" the armed forces.

He said: "You are dealing with a legacy of iterative hollowing out, which has reached a point where the frog has boiled."

Long-rumoured problems with the Navy’s fleet of six Type 45 destroyers that left them total powerless were confirmed early this year.

The Ministry of Defence issued a statement admitting “reliability issues” had affected the ships and said that it was considering upgrades to the vessels to make them more reliable.

Sir Richard Barrons said defence cuts had left the military with an "existential minimum" amount of equipment and supplies CREDIT: HARLAND QUARRINGTON/MOD
The warships were originally designed to work in the cool waters of the North Atlantic, but in hotter climates, the jet engines have experienced problems with heat, causing them to shut down.

Admiral Parry said: “We used to put little wooden wedges between the hatchclips and the hatches in my destroyer to stop them rattling so we could keep the noise down."

“We have forgotten all about it — it’s crazy. Noise suppression has been probably the biggest dirty secret since the end of the Cold War that people have been cheerfully ignoring.”

The Ministry of Defence ordered 54 Watchkeeper reconnaissance drones in 2005 in an £847m deal to provide surveillance and reconnaissance for troops.

The drones can beam back high definition images as they fly up to 16,000ft above the battlefield, but technical and safety delays have meant that apart from a brief stint in Afghanistan, the aircraft will not enter full service until this year.

An MOD spokesperson said: "Britain's defence budget is the biggest in Europe and it is growing every year, we are investing £178 billion as the UK steps up globally.

"We are focused on maintaining an affordable programme and getting the best value for the taxpayer to deliver the cutting-edge kit our Armed Forces need to keep Britain safe."

Philip saar Post this in Intl Naval Thread , whats this got to do with Russian Def technology any ways.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 06 Feb 2017 17:51

Ru subs?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 06 Feb 2017 21:41

Philip wrote:Ru subs?

I mean whats the point in making fun of Brits on Russian Thread , Type 45 has its own fair share of problems most new sophisticated system tend to have such things and take a long time to fix .

For Eg looks at Russian own Screw Up with 2035 Admiral Gorshkov class frigate , they had issue with engine , then electronics , missiles and have yet to be commission into service after years of problem solving which seems like endless !

The more new systems like Type 45 or Gorshkov or others the more time it takes to find the problems fix it

First of any class have such issues and sometimes they can take years and even decades to fix ... Childhood disease are tough to find solve and sometimes they can come up after years of service in unexpected way.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Feb 2017 10:55

Ilyushin Unveils Il-38 ASW Upgrade for Russian Navy
by Vladimir Karnozov
- February 7, 2017, 7:36 AM

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The Ilyushin design bureau and the Russian navy have revealed details of a mission systems upgrade and airframe refurbishment of the Il-38 antisubmarine warfare (ASW) aircraft. At a ceremony on January 31 at Ramenskoye airbase south of Moscow, Russian naval aviation commander Gen. Igor Kozhin said that “about 30” of the 54 Il-38s in the inventory will be modernized, in a program that will continue until 2025.

Nikolai Stolyarov, director for special aviation programs with United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), said Ilyushin and its sister companies Myasischev and Aircraft Repair Plant No.20 have fulfilled “the second defense ministry order for Il-38Ns” (for five and three aircraft, respectively). He added that these companies continue lifetime-extension and modernization work on other military versions of the baseline Il-18 in service with Russia's Air and Space Force. “This platform has proved itself as very reliable, durable and robust airplane. We hope the Il-38N program would resume…after successful completion of special flight trials that will commence shortly.”

The N version of the Il-38 features the Novella P-38 search and sighting system from St.-Petersburg-based Leninets, which replaces the outdated Berkut-38 on the original Il-38, 65 of which were delivered from 1967 to 1972. The system can track 32 targets simultaneously and has detection range against aircraft of 90 km (50 nm) and sea-going targets of 320 km (173 nm). The Indian Navy was the only export customer, and it still operates five Il-38SD with the Sea Dragon sensor suite, which is an exportable version of the Novella.

With all-up weight of 68 tons, the Il-38 has a crew of seven and a range of 9,500 km (5,126nm). It is broadly similar to the P-3 Orion, which has filled a similar ASW role with the U.S. Navy. According to Ilyushin, the Il-38N is intended for long-endurance anti-submarine patrols over sea, with simultaneous search for aerial and sea-going targets. In addition, the aircraft can set mine fields and perform search-and-rescue and ecological monitoring duties. Its arsenal of torpedoes, mines, depth charges and buoys has been extended though addition of the PL250-120 Zagon anti-submarine guided bombs. Indian Il-38SDs can fire the Kh-35, whereas the Russian navy decided not to equip its aircraft with anti-ship missiles.

The Il-38N that was accepted during the January 31 ceremony (RF-755345) was the eighth to be upgraded. It is the second Il-38N to be delivered to the Russian navy's 859 Center in Yeisk on the Black Sea coast for combat use, flight training and type conversion. Commander Gen. Alexei Serdyuk said his center will use these airplanes to train Pacific and Northern Fleet aircrews. “We will employ them on special trials and working out new tactics,” he added

After the ceremony, Gen. Kozhin told journalists that the Il-38 and Tu-142 will continue the primary ASW types in the Russian inventory. “These are old platforms, but we expect a substantial increase in their capabilities through the renewal of their mission equipment. Other maritime nations will be surprised at the new capabilities these types will demonstrate after modernization,” he declared.

Kozhin described the Il-38 as “the first indigenous ASW aircraft capable of long-duration flights over ocean, and it is still capable of search and annihilation of submarines.” He praised Ilyushin for producing “such a uniquely durable and reliable machine.” It has been operational with the navy for more than 50years with minimal attrition. “Despite its rather serious age, this aircraft is made very capable through yet another modernization program. The President and defense minister have set the goal to bring the share of new and modernized aircraft in the Russian naval aviation inventory up to 70 percent. We are on track with that.”