Karan M wrote:
Stop projecting and and you will stop being called out.
In this very thread multiple members have called you out for your lies and misrepresentations. Marten, Rakesh, Cybaru and I. All noted you constantly cook up claims. So, stop lying. And people will stop countering your lies.
instead of multi quote drama, quote my exact post where i have "lied" or take that accusation back.
Karan M wrote:nirav wrote:
It was pointed out that MoD is delaying selection of AESA radar for LCA by sitting on it.
Where. Show one credible source.
This is the problem.You jump in into an ongoing discussion, take it out of context, post long assed BS and then ask for a "source".
But since you asked, im quoting the discussion that was going on in full.
Marten wrote:
If you have been following this thread, you will know there is a tender out for the radar. Closure of the deal is dependent on many factors. If MoD simply sits on the negotiation, or in fact on the file during the evaluation process itself, what can IAF or HAL do about it? Other than this, there are risks associated with the late approval for line expansion. Note the CCS has only approved it. After this, imagine the time until the plant is built and suppliers are ready to ramp up (24-30 months). Sane people would be expected to include that If. Especially if they are looking to receive their pension after retirement.
The path to self reliance is dreary and full of failures.
nirav wrote:MoD after arranging for the 83 in the first place will sit on its radar acquisition so that it messes up its own plans to not let LCA project terminate.
Don't you think it's quite far fetched even as a CT ?
I agree with you @ The path to self reliance is dreary and full of failures.
JayS wrote:nirav wrote:MoD after arranging for the 83 in the first place will sit on its radar acquisition so that it messes up its own plans to not let LCA project terminate.
Don't you think it's quite far fetched even as a CT ?
LOL they did exactly that. I am seeing news on HAL's proposal submitted to MoD since 2015 end. They have sat over countless other proposals over so many decades. Why is that so unimaginable..?? MP himself seems frustrated by the babus in MoD.
So when it was reported that LSP2 is slated for integration with UTTAM AESA, i wondered if thats the reason why MoD didnt go in for the foreign vendor AESA in a hurry and drop millions of dollars when they might have been in the know as to whats the EXACT status of the UTTAM AESA.
MK1A production has no chance of starting before 19-20. So if MoD have a sense that UTTAM AESA might be ready in time for equipping MK1A, it makes sense for them to sit on HALs foreign vendor AESA proposal and save up on a few hundred million dollars.
But in response, this is what you have to say.
Karan M wrote:LOL so you think a radar which is yet to enter flight trials would cause MOD to sit on a vital program. And this is not a CT.
So who exactly is running down a national program which is also on the cusp of maturing ?
you yourself are clearly being import pasand.
Indranil saar has this to say about UTTAM AESA.
Indranil wrote:Integrating Uttam into LCA is a ADA/DRDO project. Integrating a ready to use AESA radar on the Mk1A is a HAL project.
There are some great news on both fronts from AI-17.
1. I was pleasantly surprised that integration of Uttam into an airframe was only 1-2 years away. Also Uttam is not a completely new system. It leans heavily on the AEW&Cs AAAU unit.
2. There are now three competitors for the AESA-EW-jammer suite for Mk1A.
Karan M wrote:As I said stop projecting and if you seek your own kind, I am sure your fellow track 2 types on pakdef will oblige.
this is exactly the saas bahu mentality i spoke about earlier.hows the above even relevant to the topic at hand ?
Karan M wrote:Listen you dont get to call people names, and then act all high and mighty. Random louts use the kind of language you do and then pretend their internet tough guy BS counts for something.
Not impressive. I treat you and your fellow "standard" types the same way. Stop whining and stop misrepresenting national programs with cooked up stories and CTs.
Karan M wrote:nirav wrote:Kya ukhada of the "support" ?
bahut ukhada.. tera nahin ukhada wohin bahut kiya..
The above was in response to me asking a simple question, IAF was "unsupportive" and Navy was "supportive", what does the navy have to show for the support ?
and this gem, the most ridiculous thing one can ever hear to my question, what did the navy get out of being "supportive"
Karan M wrote:navy has a chance to get a purpose designed operational NLCA Mk2 thanks to the TD LCA derived from the AF LCA. which is what happens when a program is joined late by its primary intended user which throws everything out of whack and soaks up any effort to do any super out of the box effort for the secondary partner.
Did navy ask for a "chance" of it asked for a carrier ops capable fighter jet ? When Vikrant needs to launch NLCA, but since its not available, will you tell them, hey the jet isnt here but you have a chance to get a purpose designed jet which will come.when we dont know, but atleast you have a chance.
so if NAVY buys foreign a/c to fulfill its operational needs since NLCA is not ready its okay .. they need the jets.
IAF has time bound operational needs or not ? but no, at the drop of a hat, import pasand, and what not ... why dont you go to AHQ and hawk your "chance" theory to AF. Might just get the much needed GPL. Heck i think even Naval HQ would be quite swift in dishing out that GPL if you go and tell them they have a "chance" to get a fighter jet for all their investment of time,effort,energy and most importantly scarce capex money.
talking about "random louts" and language,
Rakesh wrote:Karan M wrote:looks like the rahul gandhi of brf really needs things dumbed down.
You know he is asking for thapad and you Saar are obliged to give it him. Bash on Regardless! The more he trolls like this, he is going to come into the eyes of an admin and his kahani will be khalas! Till then, many of us are watching with glee (I have my Jonnie Walker Red Label already open!) as you take him down. What a troll!
quite the "language".