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Now China can have it's own Guantanamo Bay in Gwadar.
Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
So he goes from Indian Leader to Indian Minister,,hain ji.Falijee wrote:Mateen Haider @haider_mateen 18h18 hours ago
INDIAN LEADER SHASHI THAROOR IS IN #ISLAMABAD ON AN IMPORTANT MISSION WHICH IS QUITE SECRET
Mateen Haider @haider_mateen 5h5 hours ago
#Indian Minister #shashi tharoor is in #Islamabad to attend #asian parliamentary assembly expected to meet pk leaders also
Rumours in Paki media !!!
As a rule of thumb, Any news originating from Pakistan should be only confined to BENIS Dhaga and be construed as fake unless it is about vacuum bulb explosion in those Kaffir Sufi shrines.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Finally a western media entity wakes up to Paki perfidy.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 28891.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 28891.html
Pakistan 'violates Kashmir truce' with India for third time in 24 hours
Mortar shells have apparently been fired leading to a suspension of cross-border trade
Shehab Khan @shehabkhan
An Indian paramilitary trooper stands guard in Kashmir (file photo) Getty Images
Pakistan has allegedly violated its truce with India for the third time in the last 24 hours.
Mortar shells have been fired into Indian territory by Pakistan and damaged the Trade Felicitation Centre in Poonch, Kashmir, it has been reported.
Indian authorities responded by suspending trade between Poonch and Rawalkote, a disputed region between India and Pakistan.
Schools near the area have been closed as a “precautionary measure” and examinations that were due to take place have been delayed.
"The Pakistani Army fired unprovoked in Poonch sector from 0640 hours on Monday," Jammu defence spokesperson Lt Col Manish Mehta told the Times of India.
"Pakistani troops using 82 mm mortars, automatic weapons targeted our forward defended locations along Line of Control (LoC) and the fire was responded by our troops in a befitting manner, ensuing a heavy exchange of fire."
"Intermediate firing is going on. No casualty has been reported so far," he added.
Union minister Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore condemned Pakistan for the violation of the ceasefire.
"It is an old habit of Pakistan. It always resorts to unprovoked firing along the LoC whenever there is a festival," he said.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
^^ Was there some "action" on/across the LoC by the SDREs which is causing this sudden khujli among the TSP-ians out of the blue?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Recent Election results increases the worry that India will continue in the right path and strengthen thier defences, and they will not have thier men like MSA's, and other Termites to keep India weak from within.sum wrote:^^ Was there some "action" on/across the LoC by the SDREs which is causing this sudden khujli among the TSP-ians out of the blue?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
read somewhere that IA has deployed WLR's on LoC and tspa can hence only use mortars to shoot and scoot because response time on those sites that have WLRs is 2 mins. 
So it's fire and run for your lives.
So it's fire and run for your lives.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Won’t transfer WMDs to non-state actors: Aziz
What does it convey if Sartaj Aziz has to say openly that TSP wouldn't transfer WMDs to terrorists?
What does it convey if Sartaj Aziz has to say openly that TSP wouldn't transfer WMDs to terrorists?
Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz on Tuesday reiterated Pakistan's commitment not to transfer weapons of mass destruction to state or non-state actors.
Addressing the implementation of UN Security Council resolution 1540, Aziz said as a responsible nuclear state, Pakistan will continue to partner with international community to prevent non-state actors from acquiring the weapons.
He underscored the need for striking a balance between advancing the goals of non-proliferation and facilitating access of developing countries to strategic and dual-use goods, materials and technologies for peaceful purposes under appropriate safeguards.
In this regard, Aziz expressed Pakistan's willingness to share its expertise and provision of technical assistance to developing countries in the region and beyond.
He underlined that states which posses advanced capabilities should have an equal opportunity to participate in and contribute to the export control governance architecture.
In this context, he highlighted Pakistan's credentials and expertise to become a member of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), while emphasizing the need for a transparent, objective and non-discriminatory criteria for the cartel's membership of non-NPT applicants. {This seminar is strictly being organized to push Pakistan's case in NPT and to obstruct India's admission in the upcoming plenary}
The two-day regional seminar, organized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in collaboration with UN Office for Disarmament Affairs, brings together 13 countries from South and Central Asia, China, Russia, representatives of the 1540 Committee Group of Experts and international organizations including the IAEA, OPCW and Interpol.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Won’t transfer WMDs to non-state actors: Aziz
SS- Ji:
Sartaj's above "sermon" : Won't transfer WMD to non-state actors ! but OK to "transfer" WMD's to "state actors" like Saudia
SS- Ji:
Sartaj's above "sermon" : Won't transfer WMD to non-state actors ! but OK to "transfer" WMD's to "state actors" like Saudia
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Balochistan higher education secretary abducted from Quetta
QUETTA:
Balochistan higher education secretary Abdullah Jan was abducted from Quetta’s Wahdat Colony on Wednesday
Could be Balochi freedom fighters who are fighting for their rights !No group has claimed responsibility for the abduction so far.
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Pakistan supports Yemen’s sovereignty, integrity[
Pakistan supports Yemen’s sovereignty, integrity
Pakistan supports Yemen’s sovereignty, integrity
ISLAMABAD - After reports emerged that Pakistan Army is sending a brigade to shore up the vulnerable southern borders of Saudi Arabia against Houthi attacks, Pakistan on Monday said that Islamabad supported the unity, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Yemen and will continue to extend all possible assistance for restoration of complete peace and stability in that country.At a meeting here with Yemen’s Deputy Prime Minister Abdulmalik Abdul Jalil Al Mekhlafi – who is also his country’s Foreign Minister, Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz said that Pakistan appreciated the efforts of the internationally recognized government of President Abd Rabu Mansour Al-Hadi towards restoration of peace, harmony and stability in the country. Mekhlafi is on a two-day visit to Pakistan.
How the Shias of Pakistan react to the sending of Paki troops to Saudi border remains to be seen !Earlier, Middle East Eye reported that Pakistan will send combat troops to protect Saudi Arabia’s borders from attacks by Houthis in Yemen. The report said that the Pakistan brigade will remain inside the Saudi territory and will not be used beyond the borders.The development comes after a visit by Army Chief Qamar Javed Bajwa to Saudi Arabia in December last year. Gen Bajwa had met Saudi King Salman Bin Abdul Aziz.Earlier, Pakistan’s Parliament — fearing a sectarian backlash (back) in the country — had rejected a request by the Saudi King for Islamabad to join a coalition to fight the Yemeni Houthis.
Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Haqqani’s article revives tale of OBL raid
WASHINGTON: Some people in Pakistan did help US officials in getting to Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, says Husain Haqqani, the country’s former ambassador to US, as does renowned US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.
Talking to Dawn on the strong reaction to his article published in the Washington Post on Friday, Mr Haqqani said: “Some people helped, but they did so independently. Yes, there’s some truth in Seymour Hersh’s story.”
In the Post article, Mr Haqqani indicated that the contacts he made with the Obama team during the 2008 election campaign ultimately led to Osama bin Laden’s elimination in May 2011
“Of course, I was right. I believe it even more now, as I know more than I did when I wrote the piece,” said Mr Hersh when Dawn asked him if he still believed the article he wrote in May 2015 for the London Review of Books was right. The article was later included in his book, The Killing of Osama Bin Laden, published last year.
Mr Haqqani said the May 2, 2011 US raid that killed Osama in a compound in Abbottabad was “a bleeding wound” for most Pakistanis “who still want to know why it happened and how.”
Although Pakistan formed a commission to probe the US raid, its findings were never made public, leaving the space open for rumours and speculations.
Mr Hersh recalled how a retired Pakistani military officer tipped the US embassy in Islamabad about Bin Laden’s presence in Abbottabad, received $20 million as reward, was relocated to the United States and was now living in a Washington suburb with his new wife.
Former diplomat says he’s surprised over reaction to his write-up as he has made no disclosure in it
“Your government knows who he is. [Former US president Barack] Obama should not have talked about it right after it happened. He was to be shown in the Hindukush, not Abbottabad. That was the arrangement,” Mr Hersh said.
He said that he mentioned the name of the then CIA station manager in Islamabad, Jonathan Bank, in the article because he knew he would never deny it. “He is an honourable man. That’s why he did not deny it.”
“All the CIA had to do was to produce Bank and have him deny it, but he did not, so they produced another retired CIA official,” Mr Hersh said.
However, Mr Hersh heavily relied on a single unnamed “retired senior intelligence official” in the article that contradicts the Obama administration’s account.
Mr Hersh also claimed that Bin Laden had been in Pakistan’s custody since 2005. He reported that his housing and care were being paid for by the Saudis; and that once Bin Laden’s location was revealed to the US, Pakistanis agreed to let US special forces raid his compound with the explicit understanding that Bin Laden was to be assassinated.
Americans were also supposed to delay announcing that Bin Laden had been killed for a few weeks and claim that he died in a firefight on the Afghan side of the mountainous Afghan-Pakistan border.
Mr Hersh claimed that Obama administration officials were so eager to cash in politically that they reneged on their pledge and disclosed the true location of the raid almost immediately.
Reviewing Mr Hersh’s book for The Los Angeles Times in April 2016, Zach Dorfman, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs, wrote that there exists “a plausible historical pattern, which lends credence — if not absolute credibility — to his account”.
Mr Dorfman noted that two senior US investigative journalists, Carlotta Gall and Steve Coll, also said that their own reporting corroborated, to various degrees, Mr Hersh’s account.
Mr Dorfman pointed to the decades-old relationship among the American, Pakistani and Saudi intelligence agencies and noted that the Obama administration did little to probe OBL’s presence in Abbottabad, although their reaction would have been completely different had Bin Laden been found in a Tehran neighbourhood.
Mr Haqqani, in his conversation with Dawn, appeared more interested in the reaction to his Washington Post article than in how and why Bin Laden was found and killed in Abbottabad. “The reaction in Pakistan surprises me. I said nothing new,” he said.
He said what he wrote about his close diplomatic ties established during the 2008 Obama campaign was also already in the public domain. “So, there’s no admission or confession in my article. Seems that some people read into things what they want to read.”
He noted that relations established during the 2008 campaign advanced to a relationship with the United States, which helped them to find OBL.
This, he said, was being misinterpreted in Pakistan as him having enabled the operation against OBL, which he said was not what he wrote.
Mr Haqqani said Americans stationed lot of people in Pakistan during that period who helped in the OBL raid. “Again, I made no statement to the effect that anybody in the embassy helped that. The article clearly says that Pakistan was not taken in the loop about the raid.”
Mr Haqqani said he gave no unauthorised visa to any US citizen. “It is sad that in Pakistan, to this day, no effort has been made to find out more about OBL being in Pakistan, and how Americans were able to find him when our own agencies could not.”
Responding to a question about some Pakistanis helping Americans in catching OBL, he said: “I wish Pakistanis would be happy to take some credit for eliminating the most wanted terrorist in the world instead of abusing me for re-stating known facts.”
Meanwhile, the PPP, which appointed him Pakistan’s 24th ambassador to Washington in April 2008, has disowned him. During a parliamentary debate on Monday, PPP leader Syed Khurshid Shah said Mr Haqqani’s Post article was “an act of treason”.
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WASHINGTON: Some people in Pakistan did help US officials in getting to Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, says Husain Haqqani, the country’s former ambassador to US, as does renowned US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.
Talking to Dawn on the strong reaction to his article published in the Washington Post on Friday, Mr Haqqani said: “Some people helped, but they did so independently. Yes, there’s some truth in Seymour Hersh’s story.”
In the Post article, Mr Haqqani indicated that the contacts he made with the Obama team during the 2008 election campaign ultimately led to Osama bin Laden’s elimination in May 2011
“Of course, I was right. I believe it even more now, as I know more than I did when I wrote the piece,” said Mr Hersh when Dawn asked him if he still believed the article he wrote in May 2015 for the London Review of Books was right. The article was later included in his book, The Killing of Osama Bin Laden, published last year.
Mr Haqqani said the May 2, 2011 US raid that killed Osama in a compound in Abbottabad was “a bleeding wound” for most Pakistanis “who still want to know why it happened and how.”
Although Pakistan formed a commission to probe the US raid, its findings were never made public, leaving the space open for rumours and speculations.
Mr Hersh recalled how a retired Pakistani military officer tipped the US embassy in Islamabad about Bin Laden’s presence in Abbottabad, received $20 million as reward, was relocated to the United States and was now living in a Washington suburb with his new wife.
Former diplomat says he’s surprised over reaction to his write-up as he has made no disclosure in it
“Your government knows who he is. [Former US president Barack] Obama should not have talked about it right after it happened. He was to be shown in the Hindukush, not Abbottabad. That was the arrangement,” Mr Hersh said.
He said that he mentioned the name of the then CIA station manager in Islamabad, Jonathan Bank, in the article because he knew he would never deny it. “He is an honourable man. That’s why he did not deny it.”
“All the CIA had to do was to produce Bank and have him deny it, but he did not, so they produced another retired CIA official,” Mr Hersh said.
However, Mr Hersh heavily relied on a single unnamed “retired senior intelligence official” in the article that contradicts the Obama administration’s account.
Mr Hersh also claimed that Bin Laden had been in Pakistan’s custody since 2005. He reported that his housing and care were being paid for by the Saudis; and that once Bin Laden’s location was revealed to the US, Pakistanis agreed to let US special forces raid his compound with the explicit understanding that Bin Laden was to be assassinated.
Americans were also supposed to delay announcing that Bin Laden had been killed for a few weeks and claim that he died in a firefight on the Afghan side of the mountainous Afghan-Pakistan border.
Mr Hersh claimed that Obama administration officials were so eager to cash in politically that they reneged on their pledge and disclosed the true location of the raid almost immediately.
Reviewing Mr Hersh’s book for The Los Angeles Times in April 2016, Zach Dorfman, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs, wrote that there exists “a plausible historical pattern, which lends credence — if not absolute credibility — to his account”.
Mr Dorfman noted that two senior US investigative journalists, Carlotta Gall and Steve Coll, also said that their own reporting corroborated, to various degrees, Mr Hersh’s account.
Mr Dorfman pointed to the decades-old relationship among the American, Pakistani and Saudi intelligence agencies and noted that the Obama administration did little to probe OBL’s presence in Abbottabad, although their reaction would have been completely different had Bin Laden been found in a Tehran neighbourhood.
Mr Haqqani, in his conversation with Dawn, appeared more interested in the reaction to his Washington Post article than in how and why Bin Laden was found and killed in Abbottabad. “The reaction in Pakistan surprises me. I said nothing new,” he said.
He said what he wrote about his close diplomatic ties established during the 2008 Obama campaign was also already in the public domain. “So, there’s no admission or confession in my article. Seems that some people read into things what they want to read.”
He noted that relations established during the 2008 campaign advanced to a relationship with the United States, which helped them to find OBL.
This, he said, was being misinterpreted in Pakistan as him having enabled the operation against OBL, which he said was not what he wrote.
Mr Haqqani said Americans stationed lot of people in Pakistan during that period who helped in the OBL raid. “Again, I made no statement to the effect that anybody in the embassy helped that. The article clearly says that Pakistan was not taken in the loop about the raid.”
Mr Haqqani said he gave no unauthorised visa to any US citizen. “It is sad that in Pakistan, to this day, no effort has been made to find out more about OBL being in Pakistan, and how Americans were able to find him when our own agencies could not.”
Responding to a question about some Pakistanis helping Americans in catching OBL, he said: “I wish Pakistanis would be happy to take some credit for eliminating the most wanted terrorist in the world instead of abusing me for re-stating known facts.”
Meanwhile, the PPP, which appointed him Pakistan’s 24th ambassador to Washington in April 2008, has disowned him. During a parliamentary debate on Monday, PPP leader Syed Khurshid Shah said Mr Haqqani’s Post article was “an act of treason”.
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http://linkis.com/gWySS
A true American "moderate" Muslim beheads wife. Paki American who was running a channel fighting "islamophobia" beheads his own wife.
A true American "moderate" Muslim beheads wife. Paki American who was running a channel fighting "islamophobia" beheads his own wife.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
jamwal Ji :jamwal wrote:http://linkis.com/gWySS
A true American "moderate" Muslim beheads wife. Paki American who was running a channel fighting "islamophobia" beheads his own wife.
I am sure a Paki American - who was running a channel fighting "islamophobia" - beheading his own wife is most probably not considered a criminal in Clapistan.
Beheading Wife / Wives is the reason for the men being allowed to have Four Wives i.e. A Clapi man can behead Three Wives - at least - without being considered as "Wife Beheading man has committed a crime"
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that was in 2009
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Pakis are born cowards so don't expect Shias or for that matter even Ahmadiya to do anything about anything. See the apple never falls far away from the tree and they too belong to brown shalvar and downhill skiing institute.Falijee wrote:Pakistan supports Yemen’s sovereignty, integrity[
Pakistan supports Yemen’s sovereignty, integrity
How the Shias of Pakistan react to the sending of Paki troops to Saudi border remains to be seen !ISLAMABAD - After reports emerged that Pakistan Army is sending a brigade to shore up the vulnerable southern borders of Saudi Arabia against Houthi attacks, Pakistan on Monday said that Islamabad supported the unity, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Yemen and will continue to extend all possible assistance for restoration of complete peace and stability in that country..
Saudi Abbus know these Pakis far too well.
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Sinha Ji :Singha wrote:that was in 2009
Yes indeed.
This is the situation of Muslims Content of the US Prisons Population as on 24-11-2008 :
U.S. Prisons Churning Out Thousands Of Radicalized Inmates
The statistics are staggering, and woefully out of date. One out of three African-American inmates in U.S. prisons convert to Islam while incarcerated.
This statistic is no longer limited to African-Americans in prison. The Huffington Post reported an estimated 35,000 – 40,000 inmates convert to Islam each year, and that 15 percent of the total U.S. prison population or 350,000 inmates are Muslim.
Now - in March 2017 it is bound to be even Worse!This is more than 18 times the national representation of Muslims in America, reported to be 0.8 percent
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Cross Posting from the Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad Thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjVhjbLy2qE
A documentary on ex-Muslims. Well worth watching. Looks like mainly from the Indian sub-continent.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjVhjbLy2qE
A documentary on ex-Muslims. Well worth watching. Looks like mainly from the Indian sub-continent.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Jirga marries off 3-year-old girl to settle family dispute in Neelum Valley In Pakistan Occupied Kashmir
A jirga in Azad Jammu and Kashmir’s (AJK) Neelum Valley, in order to settle a dispute, had a three-year-old girl married to a nine-year-old boy which police claim to be a case of Vani. ( AKA "Sharia approved adultery)
Athmuqam Station House Officer (SHO) Mohammad Farooq said the jirga in the nearby village decided to marry off Aurangzeb's daughter to Mohammad Younis's son in order to settle a dispute between the two.
Aurangzeb, who filed the First Information Report (FIR) with the area police, alleged that Younis had accused him of cheating with his wife and had demanded Rs500,000 from him as penalty if he were to absolve Aurangzeb of the alleged misconduct.
However, since Aurangzeb was unable to come up with the amount, Younis allegedly bribed the area police and had him jailed."That is when the jirga gathered and got my daughter married to Younis's son to settle the dispute," the petitioner alleged, claiming that his father conceded to the jirga's demand following which the marriage was solemnised.
Aurangzeb also claims that he was "forced" to give his thumbprint impression on the document the jirga prepared.The document states that if Aurangzeb married his daughter to Younis's son, all allegations against him would be withdrawn, he would not have to pay the amount asked for and that he would not be sent to jail again."However, things did not go as planned and I could not send my daughter away," he claims.
.And the file is gathering dust in his officeThe Athmuqam SHO said six out of the fifteen people who allegedly participated in the jirga have been taken into custody.Three of the six arrested include Younis, the girl's grandfather and the cleric who solemnised the marriage.The marriage was not registered, said the police official, adding that the police is still looking for the others accused in the case.AJK Prime Minister Raja Farooq Haider has taken notice of the incident.
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India suspends cross-border trade with Pakistan.
JAMMU: Indian authorities suspended cross-border trade with Pakistan along the Line of Control (LoC) on Tuesday after Pakistan continued unprovoked ceasefire violation in the border district of Poonch. The firing severely damaged the Trade Facilitation Centre (TFC) at Chaka-da-Bagh. On Monday, the cross-LoC bus service from Poonch to Pakistan's Rawlakote had been suspended as a "precautionary measure".
According to TFC officer Tanveer Ahmed, trucks were sent by Indian traders to `zero point' at Chaka-daBagh on Tuesday , but Pakistani authorities didn't open the LoC gate. "After waiting for some time, we returned," Ahmed said.
Sources said there was no likelihood of trade resuming on Wednesday . On March 1, Jammu & Kashmir police recovered a cache of arms and ammunitions being smuggled in a truck ( Pakis cannot be trusted !)along the Muzaf smuggled in a truck along the Muzaffarabad-Srinagar route. A Chinese pistol, two pistol magazines, 14 rounds of pistol ammunition, four AK magazines, 120 AK ammunitions and two Chinese grenades were recovered from a "camouflage cavity" of the truck by police.
Trading between two sides began in 2008 but has since witnessed highs and lows. Pakistan suspended trading in August 2016 without sighting any reason.On November 2, tension along LoC and the International Border had led to the suspension of trading and the Karvan-e-Aman Bus Service.
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Very astute observation. Thanksby Arun This is news is nothing but a punt to permit Pakistan’s Punjab Province to indulge in yet more water gluttony by building Kalabagh Dam and stealing water of the smaller Non Punjabi provinces of Pakistan. India must provide all diplomatic and moral support to Pakistan’s Non Punjabi smaller provinces to thwart Punjab’s water gluttony and prevent construction of Kalabagh Dam.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Minister proposes to make hijab mandatory in Punjab colleges
A senior Punjab government official proposed on Tuesday to make hijab mandatory for female students enrolled in the province's colleges.
"We are leaving our religion behind, we are forgetting our culture and ethics. Hence, I have made the hijab compulsory for our women and sisters in colleges," said Punjab Higher Education Minister Syed Raza Ali Gilani.The minister added that it was his duty to take the step as it is "the duty of every Muslim"."I have also made a policy for it, if your attendance falls below 60pc then we will give 5pc attendance to those girls who wear a hijab," added the higher education minister.However, the policy is yet to implemented in the educational institutions of the province and has not been signed by Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif. escape clause
In the interest of "gender equality" , Shalwar Kameez and/or the Arab Thobe should be mandatory for the Paki male !Media outlets had earlier reported the policy change will award extra marks to hijab wearing students.However, the provincial government in a tweet earlier denied the change in policy and clarified academic excellence will only be based on merit and no other factor would be considered.Civil society activist and lawyer Jibran Nasir also criticised the move in a series of tweets. He later said he was glad that the provincial government "believes in judging men and women on merit and not apparel".
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Pakistan set to declare Gilgit-Baltistan as fifth province
The move could signal a historic shift in the country's position on the future of the wider Kashmir region, the paper had quoted experts as saying.
SLAMABAD: In a move that may raise concerns in India, reports suggest that Pakistan is planning to declare the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region also known as Northern Areas as its fifth province.Pakistan's minister for inter-provincial coordination Riaz Hussain Pirzada told Geo TV that a committee headed by advisor of foreign affairs Sartaj Aziz had proposed giving the status of a province to Gilgit-Baltistan."The committee recommended that Gilgit-Baltistan should be made a province of Pakistan," Pirzada said on Wednesday.He also said that a constitutional amendment would be made to change the status of the region, through which the $46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) passes.
According to an earlier report in Dawn newspaper, Pakistan was mulling to elevate the constitutional status of the region in a bid to provide legal cover to the CPEC.The four provinces that are presently under Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, Sindh, Punjab, and Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.Gilgit-Baltistan shares a geographical boundary with Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, and India considers it as part of the undivided Jammu and Kashmir, while Pakistan sees it as a separate from PoK.The USD 46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) passes through this region, and reports said Pakistan was mulling to elevate the constitutional status of the region in a bid to provide legal cover to the CPEC.Reports also said China's concerns about the unsettled status of Gilgit-Baltistan prompted Pakistan to change its status. Chini pressure !
The move could signal a historic shift in the country's position on the future of the wider Kashmir region, the paper had quoted experts as saying.
India too need to abolish 370 taking cue from pakistan. ( Reader Comment )
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The Big Picture - The Modi brand is here to stay - Chander Mohan
The man is bigger than his party. This is the crux of the results of five assembly elections in India, especially the crucial state of Uttar Pradesh (UP) that sends 80 MPs to Parliament. After these polls, there is no denying that Narendra Modi’s popularity overshadows not only the opposition but also his own party, the ruling Bhartiya Janata Party (BJP).
There was similar support for our first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, as was there for his daughter Indira Gandhi during her regime. Modi is no Nehru and is also quite different from Indira; the background of the ‘chaiwala’ has to be unlike the aristocratic Nehru-Gandhi’s. But the three do have this in common: they had the nation behind them and were able to take the party forward on their own shoulders. Former prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee was an extremely well-liked leader but he never got the mandate that Modi has won. This is the first time that the BJP has a majority both in Parliament as also in the politically sensitive UP assembly.
In spite of their popularity, both Nehru and Indira scored poor marks in economics. Nehru was initially preoccupied with the aftermath of Partition and if India has stayed on a liberal democratic path it’s because of the foundation laid by him. It is Pakistan’s misfortune that Muhammad Ali Jinnah died early. In later years though, Nehru got sucked into world politics and his priority was to be remembered as a statesman. As a result, India suffered.
Indira, on the other hand, was too preoccupied with establishing a dynasty. She became authoritative and lost the confidence of her people and while she did bounce back, things were never the same. Today, the dynasty lies in tatters. The country is moving rapidly towards what Modi promised: ‘Congress Mukt Bharat’ (an India without the Congress party).
Rahul Gandhi, the reluctant heir, needs to take a voluntary retirement scheme. Congress has done well in two of the other states that went to the polls – Punjab and Goa, where Rahul ironically addressed very few meetings but the party has been decimated in UP where he spent days campaigning. Congress didn’t get a single seat in Amethi, which is represented by him and considered a Gandhi bastion.
But today the story is about Modi and his political magic. Both Nehru and Indira were statuesque; they did not use power to change the country. Instead, they let the slow process of change take its course. It helps that Modi is seen as a man who is not only hard-working but also scrupulously honest. He has no family so he doesn’t need to feather his nest, and neither are there any Panama Papers that can haunt him.
But the prime minister is impatient. He wants change; his message of ‘badlav’ (replacement) has gone through. Liberals like Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen were aghast when he introduced demonetisation, some in the English media were even hoping that it would spell his doom. But Modi was able to turn around the whole dialogue to how the amir (rich) were having sleepless nights while the garib (poor) were happy.
Now the poor are backing him. BJP was always known to be a bania party, that is, a party of traders. But Modi now has a new support base; he has captured the underprivileged with his promise of ‘sab ka vikas’ (development for everyone) by changing the entire format of Indian politics. The biggest losers in our political landscape today are the Congress and the Leftist who distributed poverty in the name of socialism.
Much has been made of Modi’s disdain towards the Muslims. It didn’t help that the BJP did not give a ticket to a single Muslim candidate in UP. But the reality is that BJP’s huge victory could not have been without the substantial support from within this very community. In the Deoband constituency, which is home to the respected Darul Uloom, BJP’s Hindu candidate won against the Muslim candidates of other parties.
This has two implications. One, the Muslim community has seen through the fake secularism of so-called secular parties. Like their treatment of the poor, they have also only distributed backwardness to the Muslims who remain one of the least progressive communities in the country, as clearly highlighted in the Sachar Commission report which was ordered in 2005 to report on the social and economic conditions of the Muslims in India.
Secondly, the Muslims, especially the youth, have decided to go the same way as the rest of the country. The attempt to keep them in a secular prism is failing as their priorities have shifted: to get a job, have a good life and security just like everyone else. Today, it seems like the young ones are increasingly – although not completely – putting their faith in Modi’s promises. BJP has also realised it’s folly of not fielding any Muslim candidates and has now promised to include them in the UP cabinet. After all, a numerically-strong community cannot be left out of governance.The Author's "SOP" to the Clapistani Express Tribune
What then does Modi’s recent victory mean for Indo- Pak relations? The prime minister has definitely emerged stronger and can take bold steps to restore the relationship between the two countries. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has an election coming up next year; hopefully, both will make use of the short window available.
But one thing is clear: the Modi brand is here to stay. If there is any worry, it is that of too much concentration of power in one hand and we have seen it go wrong in the past. But that doesn’t worry Modi; he is already promising a ‘New India’ in 2022.
Remember, the next election in India is in 2019. Modi was never known to be coy!
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The Big Picture - The Modi brand is here to stay - Chander Mohan
The man is bigger than his party. This is the crux of the results of five assembly elections in India, especially the crucial state of Uttar Pradesh (UP) that sends 80 MPs to Parliament. After these polls, there is no denying that Narendra Modi’s popularity overshadows not only the opposition but also his own party, the ruling Bhartiya Janata Party (BJP).
There was similar support for our first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, as was there for his daughter Indira Gandhi during her regime. Modi is no Nehru and is also quite different from Indira; the background of the ‘chaiwala’ has to be unlike the aristocratic Nehru-Gandhi’s. But the three do have this in common: they had the nation behind them and were able to take the party forward on their own shoulders. Former prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee was an extremely well-liked leader but he never got the mandate that Modi has won. This is the first time that the BJP has a majority both in Parliament as also in the politically sensitive UP assembly.
In spite of their popularity, both Nehru and Indira scored poor marks in economics. Nehru was initially preoccupied with the aftermath of Partition and if India has stayed on a liberal democratic path it’s because of the foundation laid by him. It is Pakistan’s misfortune that Muhammad Ali Jinnah died early. In later years though, Nehru got sucked into world politics and his priority was to be remembered as a statesman. As a result, India suffered.
Indira, on the other hand, was too preoccupied with establishing a dynasty. She became authoritative and lost the confidence of her people and while she did bounce back, things were never the same. Today, the dynasty lies in tatters. The country is moving rapidly towards what Modi promised: ‘Congress Mukt Bharat’ (an India without the Congress party).
Rahul Gandhi, the reluctant heir, needs to take a voluntary retirement scheme. Congress has done well in two of the other states that went to the polls – Punjab and Goa, where Rahul ironically addressed very few meetings but the party has been decimated in UP where he spent days campaigning. Congress didn’t get a single seat in Amethi, which is represented by him and considered a Gandhi bastion.
But today the story is about Modi and his political magic. Both Nehru and Indira were statuesque; they did not use power to change the country. Instead, they let the slow process of change take its course. It helps that Modi is seen as a man who is not only hard-working but also scrupulously honest. He has no family so he doesn’t need to feather his nest, and neither are there any Panama Papers that can haunt him.
But the prime minister is impatient. He wants change; his message of ‘badlav’ (replacement) has gone through. Liberals like Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen were aghast when he introduced demonetisation, some in the English media were even hoping that it would spell his doom. But Modi was able to turn around the whole dialogue to how the amir (rich) were having sleepless nights while the garib (poor) were happy.
Now the poor are backing him. BJP was always known to be a bania party, that is, a party of traders. But Modi now has a new support base; he has captured the underprivileged with his promise of ‘sab ka vikas’ (development for everyone) by changing the entire format of Indian politics. The biggest losers in our political landscape today are the Congress and the Leftist who distributed poverty in the name of socialism.
Much has been made of Modi’s disdain towards the Muslims. It didn’t help that the BJP did not give a ticket to a single Muslim candidate in UP. But the reality is that BJP’s huge victory could not have been without the substantial support from within this very community. In the Deoband constituency, which is home to the respected Darul Uloom, BJP’s Hindu candidate won against the Muslim candidates of other parties.
This has two implications. One, the Muslim community has seen through the fake secularism of so-called secular parties. Like their treatment of the poor, they have also only distributed backwardness to the Muslims who remain one of the least progressive communities in the country, as clearly highlighted in the Sachar Commission report which was ordered in 2005 to report on the social and economic conditions of the Muslims in India.
Secondly, the Muslims, especially the youth, have decided to go the same way as the rest of the country. The attempt to keep them in a secular prism is failing as their priorities have shifted: to get a job, have a good life and security just like everyone else. Today, it seems like the young ones are increasingly – although not completely – putting their faith in Modi’s promises. BJP has also realised it’s folly of not fielding any Muslim candidates and has now promised to include them in the UP cabinet. After all, a numerically-strong community cannot be left out of governance.The Author's "SOP" to the Clapistani Express Tribune
What then does Modi’s recent victory mean for Indo- Pak relations? The prime minister has definitely emerged stronger and can take bold steps to restore the relationship between the two countries. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has an election coming up next year; hopefully, both will make use of the short window available.
But one thing is clear: the Modi brand is here to stay. If there is any worry, it is that of too much concentration of power in one hand and we have seen it go wrong in the past. But that doesn’t worry Modi; he is already promising a ‘New India’ in 2022.
Remember, the next election in India is in 2019. Modi was never known to be coy!
Cheers
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Would they now claim LOC == International Border. What will our WKKs do now?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31801.html
The girl’s father, named only as Mr Aurangzeb, was accused of having an affair with the mother of the boy by her husband, Mohammad Younis.
Mr Younis reportedly demanded Rs500,000 (£6,200) over the alleged incident, which Mr Aurangzeb was unable to pay. Mr Younis allegedly bribed local police and had the man jailed instead. “This is when the Jirga gathered and got my daughter married to Mr Younis’s son to settle the dispute,” Mr Aurangzeb told police.Mr Aurangzeb claims the Jirga, a tribal council, demanded the marriage between the two men’s children, and forced him to have his thumbprint on a document that stated the allegations against him would be withdrawn, he would no longer owe Mr Younis money and would not spend any more time in jail.
Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
PIA’s German CEO Hildenbrand put on ECL
ISLAMABAD: The name of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) CEO Bernd Hildenbrand has been put on the Exit Control List (ECL), sources said.
A notification to place the name of PIA’s German CEO was issued by Deputy Director Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) Admin Lahore, Khawaja Hammadur Rehman on Wednesday.
The copy of the notification has been posted on all the major airports. It mentions that Hildenbrand should not be allowed to depart from the country.
Sources said an inquiry against Bernd Hildenbrand is underway for purchasing aircrafts at exorbitant prices from a Sri Lankan airline.
It is alleged that PIA lost millions of dollars as a result of aforementioned deal.
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ISLAMABAD: The name of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) CEO Bernd Hildenbrand has been put on the Exit Control List (ECL), sources said.
A notification to place the name of PIA’s German CEO was issued by Deputy Director Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) Admin Lahore, Khawaja Hammadur Rehman on Wednesday.
The copy of the notification has been posted on all the major airports. It mentions that Hildenbrand should not be allowed to depart from the country.
Sources said an inquiry against Bernd Hildenbrand is underway for purchasing aircrafts at exorbitant prices from a Sri Lankan airline.
It is alleged that PIA lost millions of dollars as a result of aforementioned deal.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
C.P.E.C Compared To East India Company
CPEC: Is there cause for alarm?
CPEC: Is there cause for alarm?
A number of articles in the past week have created some undue anxiety about the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. Let us put it in plain English at the outset: CPEC is not another East India Company.That comparison is specious and entirely unhelpful, even if some find it useful purely as a metaphor.
There are two reasons why the comparison is unhelpful. First, the East India Company had an element of force, something totally absent in the present case. Second, the East India Company gradually shed its trading activity and acquired governance responsibilities, taking on the administration of land revenue and justice, as well as education and the maintenance of an armed force. CPEC is moving in an entirely different direction. (a) Foreign media is reporting that China is going to establish a marine force of 10,000 to 20,000 in Gwadar ; (b) Paki reports say that 40% of PSE ( stock exchange) has been sold to Chinese interest (c) Pakistan has agreed to be part of Chinese Satellite and Internet system
The only area where the comparison might work is in the extraction of a surplus from Pakistan and its transmittal to China. But, even here, it must be kept in mind that the surplus is not being extracted through the use of force or from land revenue (or taxation in the present case), but purely from debt servicing and the repatriation of profits. All foreign investment involves these elements, not just the one coming from China. So at the same time that we are hearing about the arrival of Chinese investment under CPEC, we also have auto makers entering the Pakistani market from Korea and Europe, as well as a Dutch company acquiring stakes in the food sector. This is not necessarily a ‘creeping colonisation’. The Aam Abduls are being re-assured that the precious sover-virginity is still intact and will not be "sold to the highest bidder"
News about a research report put out by Topline Securities, which claimed that Pakistan will repay $90 billion on CPEC investments of $50bn, sparked a new round of anxiety-laden commentary on social media and television. The report itself is sound, and the figure of $3bn per year as repayment obligations is similar to what others have calculated. My own calculation on CPEC repayments, published in this column a few weeks earlier, gave me a figure of $3.5bn, while former State Bank governor Dr Ishrat Husain calculated $3bn. "Due Diligence" being done after the project not prior to project !
The harm, Mr Minister, is when your own government is putting out mixed messages. In one place we hear that the zones are for the Chinese companies, and in another we are reassured that they will be open to all. So what exactly is ‘baseless’ here, the ‘propaganda’ of those who are asking this simple question or the assurances being put out by your own government? And who is more myopic, the one gorging himself on foreign debt comfortable in the assurance that the future will pay for itself, or the one asking what repayment obligations come with these inflows and what is the plan for meeting them?We don’t need more anxiety concerning CPEC, but we do need answers. When we frame our understanding of the enterprise in terms like ‘East India Company’, it warps our perception of the whole thing, and does not help in framing the right questions. The government can help allay some of this growing scepticism and anxiety by being more forthcoming with the details, and certainly a lot straighter with its answers. Snapping at the questioner is no way for a government minister to behave. The plain fact is that the Chinis have now got the Pakis by the bxxls
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
It seems like a good point - why did the CIA not produce Bank? Turns out he has a storied history. There are several news-items that can be found, this one from April 2015 is typical:Peregrine wrote:Haqqani’s article revives tale of OBL raid
WASHINGTON: Some people in Pakistan did help US officials in getting to Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, says Husain Haqqani, the country’s former ambassador to US, as does renowned US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.
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Former diplomat says he’s surprised over reaction to his write-up as he has made no disclosure in it
“Your government knows who he is. [Former US president Barack] Obama should not have talked about it right after it happened. He was to be shown in the Hindukush, not Abbottabad. That was the arrangement,” Mr Hersh said.
He said that he mentioned the name of the then CIA station manager in Islamabad, Jonathan Bank, in the article because he knew he would never deny it. “He is an honourable man. That’s why he did not deny it.”
“All the CIA had to do was to produce Bank and have him deny it, but he did not, so they produced another retired CIA official,” Mr Hersh said.
http://wtop.com/politics/2015/04/cia-ma ... b-is-back/
Bank’s name has been public since 2010, when he had to be evacuated as Pakistan station chief after he was named in a lawsuit accusing him of wrongdoing in connection with U.S. drone strikes.
Bank was ousted as the head of the agency’s Iran operations division at headquarters a year ago {March 2014} after an internal investigation found he had created an abusive and hostile work environment that put the crucial office in disarray.
The news-item recapping all that was written because Bank was reinstated to a CIA role:In a move officials said was without precedent, Bank was sent home from CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, and transferred to a liaison job at the Pentagon. He was barred from CIA management for a year.
But let's get back to the Bank's departure from Pakistan: Declan Walsh reported December 17, 2010 that Jonathan Bank had left Pakistan the previous day because:Jonathan Bank, 47, has been installed as deputy chief for counterintelligence at the Counter Terrorism Center, or CTC, which conducts the agency’s operations against al-Qaida, the Islamic State and other groups. He supervises a team charged with protecting CTC operations by ferreting out spies, double agents, bad tradecraft and other security risks
Now, Osama bin Laden was killed May 2, 2011. Bank might have known all about the bin Laden raid, but the article says "the then CIA station manager in Islamabad, Jonathan Bank", that is inaccurate. Second, if someone in Pakistan blabbered reliable intelligence to Bank about bin Laden's whereabouts in December and it took till the following May to launch an operation against OBL, that seems interesting, to say the least.The CIA has pulled its station chief from Islamabad, one of America's most important spy posts, after his cover was blown in a legal action brought by victims of US drone strikes in the tribal belt.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Pakis got Pakistan on a silver platter, it is not them who struggled for freedom from EIC, in fact Brits helped create TSP. What do they know about losing freedom and being subjugated? no wonder they opened their legs for US and now China. wailing that CPEC could be EIC redux doesn't suit them.
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Hizb says 'focus on enforcing Sharia, not Kashmir nationalism'
NEW DELHI: A top Hizbul Mujahideen militant Zakir Bhat alias Musa has indicated a change in the militant group's goal -- focus on Islamic Sharia and not on Kashmiri nationalism.
In a 12-minute long video, Musa urged his supporters to stop looking at the United Nations (UN) or United States (US) for a resolution to Kashmir issue. Instead, he appealed to people to turn to hardline Islam, a hint at the outfit's change in stance. The militant outfit's stand till now has been "preparing the ground for the implementation of UN resolutions" in Kashmir.
"Don't pick stones for a nation or Kashmir. They (youth) should think before taking up stones in their hands that they are not doing it for nationalism or democracy. Both are not allowed in Islam," Musa said while urging youth to shun Kashmiri 'nationalism'.
"Musa said, implying that attacking with stones during Jihad is allowed in Islam."
Burhan Wani's successor Musa joined militant ranks in 2013 after leaving his engineering degree midway.
Musa has again threatened Jammu and Kashmir policemen and informers while warning of an "upcoming war" in the region through social media.
"Many people say the local policemen are our own. Don't think they (cops) are our brothers. They are supporting infidels and this is my last warning before the beginning of war," Musa said.
Sporting a Chitrali cap, the 22-year-old Musa also thanked locals for supporting militants and disrupting counter-insurgency operations. He appealed to youth to inform about movement of security forces in their neighbourhoods.
"If they (youth) see the movement of security forces, they should post it on social media," he emphasised.
This is the third video message from the Hizbul militant since 2016.
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Hizb says 'focus on enforcing Sharia, not Kashmir nationalism'
NEW DELHI: A top Hizbul Mujahideen militant Zakir Bhat alias Musa has indicated a change in the militant group's goal -- focus on Islamic Sharia and not on Kashmiri nationalism.
In a 12-minute long video, Musa urged his supporters to stop looking at the United Nations (UN) or United States (US) for a resolution to Kashmir issue. Instead, he appealed to people to turn to hardline Islam, a hint at the outfit's change in stance. The militant outfit's stand till now has been "preparing the ground for the implementation of UN resolutions" in Kashmir.
"Don't pick stones for a nation or Kashmir. They (youth) should think before taking up stones in their hands that they are not doing it for nationalism or democracy. Both are not allowed in Islam," Musa said while urging youth to shun Kashmiri 'nationalism'.
"Musa said, implying that attacking with stones during Jihad is allowed in Islam."
Burhan Wani's successor Musa joined militant ranks in 2013 after leaving his engineering degree midway.
Musa has again threatened Jammu and Kashmir policemen and informers while warning of an "upcoming war" in the region through social media.
"Many people say the local policemen are our own. Don't think they (cops) are our brothers. They are supporting infidels and this is my last warning before the beginning of war," Musa said.
Sporting a Chitrali cap, the 22-year-old Musa also thanked locals for supporting militants and disrupting counter-insurgency operations. He appealed to youth to inform about movement of security forces in their neighbourhoods.
"If they (youth) see the movement of security forces, they should post it on social media," he emphasised.
This is the third video message from the Hizbul militant since 2016.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Why Is Pakistan So Worried By Ex-Diplomat Husain Haqqani’s Column?
By Mohammad Taqi
By Mohammad Taqi
Pakistan has a history of suppressing "commission reports" if the outcome is not to the liking of the Paki Establishment . The "famous" Hamood- Ur - Rahman Report on the dismemberment of Pakistan- for which Yahya and Bhutto were claimed in that report, was also not officially released !It was amateur hour in Pakistan’s parliament a day ago when a slew of parliamentarians from the treasury and opposition parties made speeches in both the houses of parliament condemning the former ambassador to the US Husain Haqqani for his recent column in the Washington Post in which he discussed his government’s cooperation with US officials leading up to the elimination of Osama bin Laden. Irony was lost on Syed Khurshid Shah, leader of the opposition in the national assembly, who said: “We should not give importance to people who commit treason while sitting abroad, despite being sons of the soil”. Even more ironic is that although the Pakistani parliament had formed a judicial commission to investigate the bin Laden fiasco after the al Qaeda ringleader was found and liquidated by US special forces near the premier military academy in Abbottabad, the report is yet to be released even after six years.
Scores of television talk shows have hurled all manners of accusations at the former ambassador, from saying he was throwing the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) under the bus, to he trying to portray that the Americans did not trust the Pakistan army and that he has disclosed official secrets to undermine Pakistan. One television anchor went as far as saying that Haqqani was looking for a job in the Donald Trump administration, without realising that a Pakistani citizen cannot hold a high-level position in the US government. None of these allegations hold water. In 2011, when Haqqani had been accused of masterminding a memo to US officials to help Pakistani civilians overcome the military’s hegemony in domestic politics, he had come under tremendous pressure to turn against his party and specifically against former President Asif Ali Zardari. Haqqani fought the cooked-up charge and opted to resign as the ambassador and become a political pariah rather than speak against Zardari. He has since lived in the US in quasi-exile. If he continues with his "propanganda" against Pakistan, it is likely that he will be stripped of his Paki Nationality
As to the secret nature of collaboration between the PPP and the US, there was nothing secretive about it. The late Benazir Bhutto herself lobbied in Washington D.C. and indeed did so through Haqqani, among others. When the PPP came to power, it worked closely, again through Haqqani, with the US government to get the Kerry-Lugar-Berman Act, which ensured historic amount of civilian aid to Pakistan while promising punitive measure if the Pakistani army attempted to derail democracy. So, one could say, that he was also "used" by the Paki Establishment , when the Amreeki pressure was too much !
The question of former officials writing opinion or memoirs is even more absurd. From US presidents and CIA directors to former diplomats, everyone has written about and commented on their experiences. In Pakistan, Benazir, Pervez Musharraf and Sartaj Aziz have written memoirs with details on state affairs that some might frown upon. For example, Aziz, an advisor to the current Pakistani prime minister, was one of the first high-level officials to write in his book Between Dreams and Realities: Some Milestones in Pakistan’s History that the regular Pakistani army crossed the Line of Control during the Kargil War. Aziz, who was a foreign minister at the time, also wrote that Musharraf had kept him and the civilian government in the dark about the details of the Kargil misadventure and the magnitude of the regular military’s direct involvement in the battle. Haqqani’s op-ed can’t be more damaging than the mea culpa extending over the last two chapters of Aziz’s memoir. Pakistani politicians and bureaucrats have a long history of "swaying with the political winds" to ensure their "bread and butter"
That the US does not trust the Pakistani army is no revelation. Discussing the bin Laden raid in his book Worthy Fights: A Memoir of Leadership in War and Peace, former CIA director Leon Panetta has noted that then President Barack Obama “did not believe we could afford to share this intelligence with any other nation, including Pakistan. There was too much danger of leakage from that country’s intelligence services … There was simply too much risk at stake to trust an untrustworthy partner”. Ombaba assessment is 400% correct !
As for the Pakistani civilians not trusting their military, there is a long history there. In his time, Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto fired his army chief General Gul Hasan Khan in a comically secretive manoeuvre. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif tried to fire Musharraf while the latter was halfway between Colombo and Karachi, a move which led to Sharif’s ouster. Pakistan’s collaboration with the US is as old the country itself. In his book The United States and Pakistan 1947-2000: Disenchanted Allies, Dennis Kux notes: “(General) Ayub stormed into (secretary of state Henry) Byroade’s office” saying, “For Christ’s sake, I did not come here to look at barracks. Our army can be your army if you want us. But let us make a decision.” More recently, Musharraf gave the CIA and the US military bases in Pakistan tacit permission to run drone warfare. Curiously, it is only when a civilian dispensation collaborates with the US that it becomes an issue for some. Pakistan has yet to cut it's placenta and umbilical cord ( AKA Life Support System AKA "Moolah" ) from the US
The bottom line is that a former diplomat working in the academia/think tank world and writing on the issues he has firsthand knowledge of, is the norm in D.C. and not an aberration. What Haqqani has written in his column was neither new nor exactly earth-shattering. The section over which Pakistani politicians and media got annoyed was where he states that his relationship with the US officials “eventually enabled the United States to discover and eliminate bin Laden without depending on Pakistan’s intelligence service or military, which were suspected of sympathy toward Islamist militants. Friends I made from the Obama campaign were able to ask, three years later, as National Security Council officials, for help in stationing U.S. Special Operations and intelligence personnel on the ground in Pakistan. I brought the request directly to Pakistan’s civilian leaders, who approved. Although the United States kept us officially out of the loop about the operation, these locally stationed Americans proved invaluable when Obama decided to send in Navy SEAL Team 6 without notifying Pakistan.” All of this is rather well-known. In fact, Haqqani’s former and Khurshid Shah’s current boss, Zardari wrote in the Washington Post the day after bin Laden’s assassination, “Although the events of Sunday were not a joint operation, a decade of cooperation and partnership between the United States and Pakistan led up to the elimination of Osama bin Laden as a continuing threat to the civilized world”. Haqqani’s own statement in the Abbottabad Commission had noted that he was authorised some discretion by the then Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to issue visas to the US personnel, which were also duly vetted by Pakistan’s security agencies, including the defence attaché at the embassy in Washington, D.C. The "Good Haqqani" has become a convenient scapegoat for the failure of the Paki Establishment !
There is a level of embarrassment in the Pakistani security establishment for getting caught with their pants down. After all, it was Musharraf who kept trying to send the Americans on a wild goose chase, claiming that bin Laden was either dead or in Afghanistan. An even bigger humiliation was that the Americans flew in, probably warned the Pakistani military to stand down, nailed their man and flew out without the Pakistani generals being able to even lift a finger, all their nuclear power bravado notwithstanding. So, what about the famous "bum" ; why was it not used against Massa !
Haqqani’s brief as the ambassador was to build bridges with the US, which he did with finesse. However, the persistent questioning of the American raid and vilification of those who fostered a working relationship between two states for a joint declared goal, makes the Pakistani leadership and elements of intelligentsia and media come out on the side of bin Laden by default. While the Pakistani leadership never fails to lament that the unilateral US action violated Pakistan’s sovereignty, it has not bothered to find out how bin Laden ended up next door to the complex which almost every army officer graduates from. Maybe, the OBL report "throws light" on this factor, and that is why it is suppressed
Pakistani parliament, while quick to castigate Haqqani, has not yet mustered the courage to engage with the Abbottabad Commission report. It took for a foreign media outlet, Al Jazeera, to leak the report, which calls the bin Laden raid fiasco “greatest humiliation visited upon Pakistan since its break up in 1971”. Quite embarrassingly, Pakistan had not formally released the Hamood-ur Rehman Commission report, which had investigated the events of 1971, until it was leaked by the media in India. The Abbottabad Commission report, though not perfect by any means, had painted an abysmal picture of everyone from the civilian leadership, the military and the ISI to police and law enforcement. Reading the report, Pakistan literally comes across as a banana republic where civilians were indifferent and deferred everything to the military. And when faced with the dire option of choosing between dereliction of duty and active collusion with bin Laden, the all-powerful military pleaded negligence and incompetence.
Instead of finding an easy scapegoat in a former ambassador’s opinion piece, the Pakistani leadership would be well advised to introspect and, for starters, make the Abbottabad Commission report public. The Pakistani media going hoarse over Haqqani would do well to hold the Islamabad government’s feet to the fire and get the report formally published.
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The Forgotten " Disappeared Of Pakistan"
A misery called disappearance
I.A. Rehman
A misery called disappearance
I.A. Rehman
THE lack of satisfactory progress on affording relief to the victims of enforced disappearance makes it necessary to revisit their case. The more one looks at the monthly reports on the cases pending before the Commission of Inquiry on Enforced Disappearances, the more alarmed at the unmitigated suffering of the people affected one becomes.
The report does not tell us where all those who were reported to have returned home in February 2017 were after their disappearance. If they had been released from official custody, authorised or unauthorised, was the cause of their detention ascertained? Was any action taken or recommended against those responsible for detaining them? Too sensitive for the "Deep State"
Unfortunately, this commission of inquiry is so much handicapped for want of authority and resources that one cannot be angry with it. The government has paid no heed to the advice by UN agencies and forums to increase its powers and give it adequate resources. A high-powered conference to make the search for the disappeared persons truly effective is now overdue. The present commission was set up by the interior ministry on the recommendation of the 2010 commission of former judges that had been set up at the Supreme Court’s initiative. Perhaps it is time for the apex court to address the misery of the disappeared human beings.
Zeenat Shahzadi: The rights activists are deeply worried about a young human rights defender, Zeenat Shahzadi, who disappeared from near her Lahore home in July 2015. How long can the government live down the stigma of failing to recover her? Pakistan operates under a "facade of democracy"
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
An anti-dote for this poisonous message and/or ideology needs to be implemented ASAP !
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Is China "New Kashmir Policy" Any Different From China "Old Kashmir Policy"
China’s Kashmir Policy unveiled by Foreign Ministry
China’s Kashmir Policy unveiled by Foreign Ministry
BEIJING: China has once again reiterated and reaffirmed it's Kashmir Policy to India and Pakistan both, as news had surfaced in Indian media over the issue of change of Chinese Foreign Policy over the Kashmir issue.China while showing its concern over Indo-Pak tension has said that Beijing’s policy on Kashmir issue has not changed.
Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson while talking to journalists said both Pakistan and India should accelerate the pace of talks regarding the Kashmir issue and both countries should avoid any interference by respecting the sovereignty of each other.
We want to see borders of the both the countries secure, he added. China should condemn the cross-border terrorism of it's strategic ally !
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Indians doing their part for Sooth Asian amity.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/amar ... 05351.html
The ladies definitely look painted.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/amar ... 05351.html
The ladies definitely look painted.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
PIA CEO Bernd Hildenbrand put on ECL
According to sources, an inquiry against him is underway for purchasing aircrafts at exorbitant prices from a Sri Lankan airline.
Is he being made the scapegoat for someone else's corruption or was he "sweet talked" into taking the "impossible job" with the sweetener of making some "extra money on the side"It is alleged that PIA lost several million dollars as a result of the deal.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Why hanji? Instead he should be given maximum air time in India. His message can be used to upend the wkk's propaganda that Kashmir is about human rights or self determination, etc. It is about Islam and that too militant Islam and who better than this scum to hammer it in.Falijee wrote:An anti-dote for this poisonous message and/or ideology needs to be implemented ASAP !
That is one kind of Kashmir movement that NO one in the west is willing to tolerate in the current environment with attacks happening all over Europe.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Enjoy the saga of leasing Sri Lankan airlines aircraft...Peregrine wrote:PIA’s German CEO Hildenbrand put on ECL
ISLAMABAD: The name of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) CEO Bernd Hildenbrand has been put on the Exit Control List (ECL), sources said.
Sources said an inquiry against Bernd Hildenbrand is underway for purchasing aircrafts at exorbitant prices from a Sri Lankan airline.
It is alleged that PIA lost millions of dollars as a result of aforementioned deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fS-L_Z7Dqk