SRoy wrote:rsangram is correct in one respect, albeit partially.
Hence, back to rsangram's question. It will buy some peace for a decade or so. But J&K is not really a problem, it is a symptom of a larger problem. If we give away K part of the J&K, tomorrow it will be districts of Bengal and Assam, some parts of Kerala.
So, the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about is the Muslim population of India.
Few days ago I asked what is the endgame in J&K. Many people answered. In fact JEM posted a good response, unfortunately the Muslim population part (ever ready for Jihad) was not addressed.
So, its time we think what could be our strategy to deal with slipping demographic advantage across India. J&K would be only a subtext of that solution.
I am the one who is addressing the Muslim population issue in India. I am saying, transfer them out, in exchange for whatever deal we can get.
I think, what people are missing is the fact that the Hindu culture and the Hindu population itself is under great existential threat. I believe that if we continue on the trajectory that we are on, we Hindus will not survive and be extinct in a 100 years. How will that happen ? Via conversion and genocide. People here call this scare mongering, but I think people are just not only being complacent, but downright delusional, as it is so obvious and yet most people dont see it. You can call it "bury the head in the sand" syndrome or "Dilli abhi door hai" syndrome.
The entire solution set is different, depending on whether you believe in the premise of this immediate existential threat with a very real chance of extinction of Hindus within the next 100 years or so (that kind of time frame). If one does not believe that there is that kind of threat and that kind of immediate threat, then the status quo looks alright to them. If you believe in the threat and its immediate imminence, with great urgency to counter, then the solution will have to be something along the lines that I propose.
If the threat is imminent and my time frames are roughly correct, then my argument is that an abbreviated Hindu Nation with zero muslim population gives a better chance for survival of Hindu populations than the current status quo. An abbreviated land with no muslims gives us a chance, a space and time, to heal, to regroup, to strengthen ourselves and create an unabashed and unconditional safe haven for Hindus. Being more homogeneous then, will give us a better chance to fortify ourselves and jettison this so called "democracy", which is nothing by kleptocracy, which will allow us to evolve a form of system of governence better suited for a long offensive war and not defensive war, which is inevitable against Islam. Then we can militarize, regimentize and create an order within our society, which hopefully, will be much better equipped to save us. With the muslim population in the numbers that they are, present in India, we will have nothing but confusion, corruption, self goals, chaos, more and more Islamization and ultimately Islamic mass murder of Hindus assisted by Hindus' own suicidal tendencies.
People are correct in saying here that the Islamists will not let up, just because we give away territory. These same people, are deliberately, though, putting words in my mouth, by saying that I am saying that the Islamists will give us peace against territory. I am under no such illusion or delusion. I am only advocating giving up territory as a means of transferring our entire muslim population out, not in the hopes that the Islamists will give up their Ghazwa-e-Hind. My only contention is that we will be much better equipped for a war against Islam, without our muslim population, even if it means giving away some of our land.
Once we fortify and secure ourselves, then we should embark on a 1000 year offensive war against the Islamists to regain all our lost territories from Afghanistan to Indonesia. Obviously, reclaiming the lost territories of the subcontinent will be the first target in that fight.
What else can be done ? The other alternative can be to flood Nepal will large number of Hindus form India, have it be converted back to a Hindu nation and then use that as a safe haven for Hindus and a launch pad for a Hindu revival and embark on the battle from there to reclaim all our lost territories.
Of course, that leads us to this question. For those, who oppose any territory give away under any circumstances, how about starting a mass movement and massive push for at least disregard 370 (even if we cannot legally do away with it) and flooding Jammu and Ladakh areas with Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains and animists and thereby, change the demographics of J&K state, even if we cannot change the demographics of the KAshmir Valley. THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL SOLUTION. Those who jump on me for even contemplating a tradeoff in territory in exchange for transferring all Indian muslims out, should explain how, when India cannot even settle other Indians in any numbers in Jammu and Ladakh, where we dont have terrorists to contend with, for the most part, nor do we have local hostile populations to contend with, for the most part, should explain how can we keep JK from breaking apart ?
And that is the end game in J&K, Sroy. One of the following 4.
1. Continue status quo, which will surely result in due course to defeat for India and loss of territory WITHOUT population transfer within just 10 or 15 years - meaning utter and complete defeat, which will hasten the complete demise of Hindus in all of India, even sooner than I predict - and my prediction is 100 years.
2. Negotiate a transfer of ALL Indian muslim population, with no exception in exchange for some territory.
3. Flood Nepal, convert it into a Hindu nation and use that as a Hindu safe haven, beach head, launching pad for Hindu revival and reclaiming of lost Hindu territories, starting with flooding Hindus as "illegal" immigrants backed by a Hindu militia supplied from Nepal into Ladakh, which would require a supply corridor to be established via Uttarakhand and Himachal within India. This assumes that there will always be a Hindu friendly government in India which will permit such a "migration" , movement and "supplyline" via the Ittranchal and Himachal corridor. Very long shot, but a theoretical possibility.
4. Directly settle Hindus in Jammu and LAdakh, change the demographics of J&K, by disregarding 370 in at least those parts of JK and then go from there.
Clearly, in my view, of all the end game scenarios, number 4 is most desirable, but I am afraid number 1 is most likely. Number 3 is ok too, although a real long shot and I am even willing to settle for number 2.
Why cant we do number 4 now, and can you, Sroy, or anyone else lay out a timeline by when it will be possible, and by what year such a scenario will be possible as a function of our military readiness and political will, in India ?