rohitvats wrote:
So, next time you decide to use an example to further your argument, do spend few minutes researching what you're saying.
You are cherry picking the article that suits you. The fact is if ADA makes a case for Tejas after defeated by foreign jet,
the 'Any Foreign Fighter's club would be ROTFLing. So I reject this poor pathetic article.
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Now coming to your nationalistic tag because you're pushing for more LCA induction instead of one more light category fighter - Actually your position is not much different from Philip who continuously pushes for Russian fighter. Just because you've 'indigenous' tag in your argument, does not automatically make it THE right choice.
Your picking just Philip's name shows that you don't see those who have been pushing US stuff continuously eg NRao, amit etc. What about their dishonesty their support for any US system be it F35, emals and list goes on you agree with them.
- We've no clue on what permanent ASR waivers are on LCA Mk1 and how it impacts the fighters operational capability but hey, what does the IAF know! Aren't they all sold out to Russians/French/'What have you' for a few bottles of Vodka/Champagne/take you pic. Off with their heads.
Does your dishonesty knows no bounds? Why you bring IAF in it? They failed f16, f18, grippen without. Your blood doesn't boil that these failed platforms will be in IAF, then you intention are not pure. Why you focus so much on those waivers? Shouldn't you be angry at failed-foreign-platform supporters, instead of being angry with Tejas supporters?
- 9 out 10 posters will not be able to put together ORBAT of IAF and how this structure will evolve in future. Over next 5, 10, 15 and 20 years. When will each fighter type enter/exit, how squadron strength will vary, what capability gaps will arise etc. But let us all whine about IAF not ordering 300 Tejas!
Every poster can use their common sense that f16 sanctionable, that indigenous platform has its own strategic importance.
Why don't you just propose that I rohitvats am the most knowledgeable, only I should be posting while everyone else be banished.
- And of course, we'll never talk about the timelines. We're only bothered about the numbers being ordered. Not about when they enter service, how they're supported and how they mature. Sure, we'll pass a comment or two on timeline slippages but don't expect more from us. After all, what can we do. If its a real world and existential problem which IAF has to grapple with, well, its their job.
If govt gives bigger order than a bigger scale plant more lines could be setup,
more money can be poured, Tata-LM kind of private line be made, at least we can try instead of accepting defeat that Bharat just doesn't have what it takes only foreigners do, hence let's go for AFF Any Foreign Fighter.
- Best of them all - why does IAF even need 42 squadron strength air force!!! No, we've no bloody clue about how IAF considers future wars will shape up, its responsibilities, strength of enemy AF, emerging strengths, air defenses, range requirements, sortie rates, per sortie ordnance carrying capacity....NOTHING. But still, why does IAF need 42 Squadron strength AF. But while we're at it, we still want it to order 300 Tejas!
In fact only way for IAF to go for is Tejas , as that conference of retired IAF pilots concluded. That after 272 mkis medium weight would crush IAFs budjet. People laughed when 60 squadrons were proposed by Ramana hi. Only possible with Tejas not the AFF
Most of the time nowadays, we're so ahead of the curve that we leave reason, logic and facts behind!!!
You seem to be only opposing Tejas supporters, now since you are after fame now for the sake of appearance at least oppose some f16 supporters too.
Why you say 'moderators are sleeping'? Have you seen an objectionable post then shouldn't you just report it? Instead of calling people names.
Maybe you want to be moderator again. So you can use your power to put posters in their place? Probably that's why you come to such a place like BRF where 9 of 10 don't know ORBAT, light of your knowledge is needed here. Instead of being on forum where 9 of 10 know ORBAT.
In any case, just trying to point out that the story was more complex than who finally ended up winning. That is what Manish_Sharma seem to be referring to.
