Terroristan - June 20, 2017

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 27 Aug 2017 08:23

Inner Qaid-e-azam of Nawaz Sharif has been awoken

Inshaallah - great tidings

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 27 Aug 2017 09:39

CPEC - See Pak End up as Chootiyas!

Trump's new Afghan strategy is actually a ploy against CPEC, claims Russian journalist

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1491843/tr ... ournalist/

The recently-unveiled Afghan strategy that President Donald Trump has announced is a ploy against the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a Russian political analyst and journalist has claimed.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 27 Aug 2017 09:47

These Roosis...

Everyone is lining up to make a 400% mamu of Pakistan

Even I 400% support the China Pakistan Endless Chootiyapa

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 Aug 2017 09:50

Gagan wrote:Qadiani COAS of Pakistan in Tajikistan.
Obviously worried about the IAF base there.

Do we still have anything there?

Thought we were booted out after a Russian veto?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 27 Aug 2017 09:54

Last I heard, there were a few helos there. But it is dated info

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 27 Aug 2017 10:15

Peregrine wrote:
abhijitm wrote:1 Indian Rupee is 1.65 PK Rupee.
1 Indian Rupee is 1.3 bangladeshi taka.

As per "official record" GDP per capita between pak and BD is not significantly different. ($1468 vs $1358)

In average (not too posh or fancy) biryani joint in Mumbai you get 1 chicken biryani for Rs 200.
Similar biryani in Lahore costs 200 PKR. Around 60% cheaper in pakistan. Makes no sense. Should be costing at least 300 PKR.
Similar biryani in Dhaka costs 270-280 Taka. Matches the exchange rate.

Pakistani living standard is rot. They don't have money to pay and hence things are dirt cheap in pakistan. They are faking both GDP and population.
abhijitm Ji :

It is difficult to judge prices as we are not aware of the quality.

A good Judge is the Economist – Big Mac Index

India Price: $2.76 (Rupee 178.00), Clapistan Price : Price: $3.57 (Rupee 375.00)

From the above in respect of "Like for Like" the Clapistani Prices are in US Dollars about about 35% higher in Clapistan!

As such things, seemingly are not "Dirt Cheap in Clapistan".
Cheers

Yes, my first instinct was to check Mac price and I did. It indicates PPP. But McDonald's is not going to make their McChicken burger cheap because local population cannot afford it. That was my point. Hence I took example of biryani because those restaurants will match local purchase power... poor the neighborhood cheaper the food. So I took 3 metro cities and took sample of average type restaurants (which would be located in middle class area) in each of them and compared prices. And you see the anomaly in paki numbers.

Today as an Indian if you travel to pakistan, you will find food way cheaper... probably twice or sometimes four times. It is not because they produce in abundance, it is because their population is so poor they cannot afford to pay more than that. You will not get 'cheap' McChicken in Lahore though.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 27 Aug 2017 11:45

Unfortunately, the precedent is such that only action by the US with regard to Pakistan - recordable, visible and measurable - will be regarded as movement. There have been too many instances where intention has been declared and discarded. On our part, I do not think India is asking for any specific action on Pakistan other than what is dictated by common sense (naming of terror organisations, and such like). Nor are signals evident that suggest there will be a quid pro quo of any sort, i.e. New Delhi is not going to "pay" Washington for doing what it is in its own best interest and censure Pakistan appropriately for its crimes against American citizens. On the contrary, history suggests that India is prepared to wait and wait and wait until the US learns that lesson by itself. No amount of persuasion that India can do can out match the persuasion that Pakistan itself is doing to convince America about where it's true allegiances lie. Americans are as prone to self-delusion as anyone else, and they are gradually pulling off the layered hijab of deception that Pakistan has forced over it's head since the 1950s.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 Aug 2017 13:47

https://www.devex.com/news/pakistan-s-1 ... -90872/amp

Pakistan's $100B deal with China: What does it amount to?

In May 2017 Pakistan and China signed a $50 billion agreement that included full funding for Diamer Basha and four other dams.

Although enormous, the new agreement hardly merited coverage in Pakistan. China already captured headlines and public imagination in 2013 when the two countries signed memorandums of understanding worth $46 billion to build the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. CPEC has since quietly grown to a $62 billion investment.

The latest $50 billion in memorandums now brings Chinese loans and investments in Pakistan to well over $100 billion. A senior member of the CPEC team at Pakistan’s Ministry for Planning, Development, and Reform predicts that figure will ultimately grow to $150 billion. If the dams face cost overruns — which are 96 percent on average — then that will be a conservative estimate.

But this is something else:

Tom Miller, author of “China’s Asian Dream,” has said that Chinese officials privately admit that they expect to lose up to 80 percent of their investment in Pakistan.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 27 Aug 2017 13:55

Saw the report yesterday. Many interesting nuggets other than just the raw numbers.

“The Chinese rate is 8.50 rupees per kilowatt hour of coal,” says the retired official. “An efficient rate would have been 5 rupees. In India, it’s about 4 rupees. One would expect a good environmental package with their [high] rate. But they are not putting in the required controls.”

The rate pays back the loan that the Chinese company took from a Chinese bank to build the plant; a commercial 5 percent interest rate; a one-time payment equal to 7 percent of the cost of the project as insurance against default (even though Pakistan has offered sovereign guarantees); and a 15 to 20 percent return on equity.

Double the last number in light of the first quote. Classic case of gold plating.

What Pakistan owes for the next 30 years will be calculated in dollars frozen at the 2013 exchange rate of 97.10 rupees to $1. (The current exchange rate is 105 rupees to $1.)

The contract is dollarized between birathers

This is totally haram. halla will not forgive. Why use a currency that is backed by massive amount of debt? Why not use *international* Yuan as the base currency on the contract hanji? Iz Yuan not halal enough or the not *international* enough? Chumma birrathers should not anchor their deal to a dushman muluk currency. It does not reflect bhell on their birathri. It makes it appear like Dolla is still arrrrrrrrrh!

He continues: “Yes, there’s a problem of returning the money and we might overextend ourselves. Is the U.S. government not over-extended? Isn’t everyone in debt? But what are our options? Even if we default, how many times has Argentina defaulted? It’s definitely not what we want, but it’s a part of the game. It’s a reality in business.”

bhery bhery pertinent observation on the jewyes except for the fact that the US gober-mint runs the dolla sprouting press. That iz why I thought the Bakis should have used Baki rupya or the *international* Yuan to transact.

“The Chinese contribution to economic growth right now is overstated. A lot of the growth we’ve achieved is because of our own internal things,” says Ismail.

What will happen to this world when birathers don't trust birathers?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Aug 2017 14:28

JEM, good post.

I will quote from a demarche issued to Pakistan, after the second divorce, in 1992 in the last days of George W Bush Sr's reign as US President, when Pakistan came close to be called a State Sponsor of Terrorism.

The US Ambassador was asked to hand over a letter from James Baker to Nawaz Sharif warning Pakistan of its serious misdemeanour in Kashmir & Punjab (in which US also participated initially). The Ambassador was also briefed to 'talk' to Nawaz Sharif and convey the following:

We are very confident of our information that your intelligence service, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, and elements of the Army are supporting Kashmiri and Sikh militants who carry out acts of terrorism... This support takes the form of providing weapons, training and assistance in infiltration ... We’re talking about direct, covert support from the Government of Pakistan. Our information is certain. It does not come from the Indian Government. Please consider the serious consequences to our relationship if this support continues... If the situation persists, the Secretary of State may find himself required by law to place Pakistan in the U.S.G. [United States Government] State sponsors of terrorism list... You must take concrete steps to curtail assistance to militants and not allow their training camps to operate in Pakistan or Azad Kashmir

Things have gotten enormously worse since then even for the US on account of Pakistan. It has carried out mind-boggling terror strikes and even war on India apart from grievously attacking the US itself and also becoming a nuclear Walmart of the world (under US benignity).

So, hot air from the US is commonplace.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Aug 2017 14:31

pankajs wrote:Saw the report yesterday. Many interesting nuggets other than just the raw numbers.

Wow ! Daylight robbery of the highest order. Usury. No wonder, Sri Lanka, Maldives & Djibouti have gone down under.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 Aug 2017 14:49

SOMEONE HAS TAKEN A MASSIVE DOSE OF SODIUM THIOPENTAL

Capital suggestion : Policy capture

Less than one percent of Pakistanis live in DHA, KDA, Gulberg, CDA and Bahria Town. Less than one percent of Pakistanis are members of gymkhanas, golf clubs, country clubs and the Islamabad Club. Of all the 1,174 MNAs, MPAs and senators around 50 percent are from 450 families.

Facts: Around 84 percent of the Pakistani population does not have access to safe drinking water. Why? At least 55 percent of Pakistani children are anaemic. Why? Around 44 percent of Pakistani children suffer from stunted growth. Why? At least 33 percent of Pakistani children are iron-deficient. Why? Of the 131 districts, 80 districts suffer from food insecurity. Why? More than 40 million Pakistanis defecate openly. Why?

Answer: Public policies determine the “distribution of costs and benefits in an economy”. To be certain, policymaking in Pakistan exclusively serves those who live in DHA, KDA, Gulberg, CDA and Bahria Town. Policymaking in Pakistan exclusively serves Pakistanis who are members of gymkhanas, golf clubs, country clubs and the Islamabad Club. Policymaking in Pakistan exclusively serves the 450 families and the 1,174 MNAs, MPAs and senators.

Result: Pakistan is “experiencing widening income gaps, with a concentration of wealth in the hands of a small number of individuals”. Yes, “this is likely to further facilitate privileged groups’ access to decision-makers and exacerbate the risk of policy capture”. Yes, that means “low levels of trust in government”. Yes, the government’s credibility and its democratic legitimacy are both at stake. And yes, that means the radicalisation of large segments of the population.

Public policy in Pakistan has been captured by less than one percent of Pakistanis who live in DHA, KDA, Gulberg, CDA and Bahria Town. Public policy in Pakistan has been captured by less than one percent of Pakistanis who are members of gymkhanas, golf clubs, country clubs and the Islamabad Club. Public policy in Pakistan has been captured by 450 Pakistani families who populate the National Assembly, the provincial assemblies and the Senate.

A captured public policy leads to gross “misallocation of public and private resources, resulting in rent-seeking activities and diminished allocative and productive efficiency”. In Pakistan, a captured public policy has meant five things. First, high levels of poverty. Second, massive under-investment in the health sector. Third, massive under-investment in the education sector. Fourth, massive over-investment in infrastructure. Fifth, the failure of the state to provide basic services – water, electricity and justice.

A captured public policy is a “vicious circle” as “capture perpetuates social and economic inequalities. Benefits obtained through capture enable the interest group to reinvest in further influence-seeking and maintain and expand its wealth and power.”

A captured public policy in Pakistan has meant two things: exclusionary politics and extractionary institutions. That 50 percent of all parliamentarians are from 450 families is exclusionary politics. Captured institutions – including the SBP, the SECP, the Competition Commission of Pakistan, Nepra, Ogra, the Drug Regulatory Authority, Pemra and the Public Procurement Regulatory Authority – extract from 99 percent of the population to enrich the less than one percent who live in DHA, KDA, Gulberg, CDA and Bahria Town.

To be sure, Pakistan is trapped in a vicious circle, which is now a threat to Pakistan’s national security. Exclusionary politics must be laid to rest. Extractionary institutions must be laid to rest.

Cheers

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Aug 2017 14:52

SSJi, I think the reason for that (I mean hot air from US with regards to pigLeT arrayed against India) is because US wants India to move on Kashmir as well and give TSP something. So if you ask ex US ambies and diplomats as I have done on why no follow up action, their standard refrain is, "but India never lived up to its bargain" (some arse holes like Uneven and those who are close to pukes to Burka, Sugata Bose, Sarmila Bose, Praveen Swami, Sookla etc bring up the "Hindu extremists" angle and other domestic India issues). US may not state so publicly given that it would be dead on arrival, but US is sympathetic to TSP position on Kashmir, and in general TSP India blood lust. Therein lies the rub. So TSP continues its send in pigLeTs into India, especially the valley, and when India whines and US approaches TSP, TSP will say, see we withheld pigLeTs for sometime, but India won't talk. And without pigLeT pressure, there is no incentive for India to talk. The whole thing has become so perfunctory. With Trump, sooner or later, we will see this come about because TSP is grovelling big time as we speak through back channel.

This kind of squalid logic from TSP, bought and perpetuated by US has only one solution: give peace a chance, destroy TSP.

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 27 Aug 2017 17:32

RCase wrote:CPEC - See Pak End up as Chootiyas!

Trump's new Afghan strategy is actually a ploy against CPEC, claims Russian journalist
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1491843/tr ... ournalist/
The recently-unveiled Afghan strategy that President Donald Trump has announced is a ploy against the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a Russian political analyst and journalist has claimed.

Gagan wrote:These Roosis...
Everyone is lining up to make a 400% mamu of Pakistan

Even I 400% support the China Pakistan Endless Chootiyapa

This is the same idiot from that Katehon site. Can hardly be called a 'Russian' POV. The Pakis themselves pay for such articles by nobodies to be written and then quote it to buttress their delusional claims.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Aug 2017 17:54

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Aug 2017 18:08

Altaf Hussain new video against Pakistan Army

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 27 Aug 2017 18:29

Bart S wrote:
RCase wrote:CPEC - See Pak End up as Chootiyas!

Trump's new Afghan strategy is actually a ploy against CPEC, claims Russian journalist
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1491843/tr ... ournalist/

Gagan wrote:These Roosis...
Everyone is lining up to make a 400% mamu of Pakistan

Even I 400% support the China Pakistan Endless Chootiyapa

This is the same idiot from that Katehon site. Can hardly be called a 'Russian' POV. The Pakis themselves pay for such articles by nobodies to be written and then quote it to buttress their delusional claims.

Bakis are good at creating so called sites / mags / Orgs / Think tanks that rate Bakistan world no 1 on many parameters. You just have to watch sufficient bak program to know how many times ISI has been rated the worlds best intelligence agency. This is their most popular topic and in part of normal discourse on their prime time shows.

All of these sites / mags / orgs are either created outside or with credible sounding foreign names to fool the mango baki. Perhaps all of them were taking tips from that marvelous baki company Axact.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 27 Aug 2017 18:33

General Nicholson's Blunt Warning To Pakistan : “The Quetta Shura, Peshawar Shura, these shuras are identified by cities inside Pakistan, we know Afghan Taliban leaders are in these areas,” he said.

Support for Taliban Has To Stop: Nicholson

In a special interview with TOLOnews, Gen. John Nicholson, the commander of US Forces and NATO in Afghanistan, said on Saturday that the US knows the Afghan Taliban leadership is in the Quetta and Peshawar areas. He said the issue of outside sanctuaries has to be addressed but that it was “being addressed in private between the US government and the Pakistani government - but it does need to be addressed.”“Support for terrorists and insurgents has to be reduced, has to be stopped,” said Nicholson. Nothing new IMO. Similar "warnings" have been issued in the past but no concrete action has been taken to date . !

“The Quetta Shura, Peshawar Shura, these shuras are identified by cities inside Pakistan, we know Afghan Taliban leaders are in these areas,” he said. Specifically asked whether the Taliban leadership in Quetta and Pashawar and other major Pakistan cities “shouldn’t sleep in peace from now on”, he said “I won’t put words in the (US) president’s mouth but he definitely conveyed this message.”He said that following US President Donald Trump’s announcement earlier this week on his new war strategy, he, Nicholson, as a commander, has a new policy – “one based on conditions and not time.” He said: “It gives us additional capabilities. We have a direction now provided by the US policy that is being supported by NATO.”

Asked if he sees the Taliban as a terrorist organization, Nicholson said: “They do terrorist activities and they enable terrorists.”As an example he pointed to the Taliban links in the past to al-Qaeda.On whether he had a mandate to go out and kill the Taliban, Nicholson said: “It is our mandate to put military pressure on the Taliban.However, he said that the US wants a peaceful solution in Afghanistan but that the “Taliban need to know they cannot win militarily.” He said he hopes they enter the peace process. So, he is hoping for some sort of a "lite Taliban" in the Govt of Afghanistan !

his interview comes just two days after Nicholson addressed a press conference in Kabul and said the Taliban has become a “criminal organization that is more interested in profits from drugs, kidnapping and murder for hire.”He called on the group to lay down their arms and end the war. “Taliban have a simple choice: Stop fighting against your countrymen. Stop killing innocent civilians. Stop bringing hardship and misery,” he said. He also said: “We will not fail in Afghanistan. Our national security depends on that as well.” Nicholson made it clear that the US and NATO stand by the Afghan security forces against terrorists and enemies of Afghanistan and said that the Taliban cannot win on the battlefield. “It’s time for them to join the peace process.” Pressure on Pakistan is the key to Taliban behaviour. Pakistan wants nothing less than an anti-India Govt, installed in Afghanistan, playing on the Islamic angle. This is not possible in the Afghanistan of 2017. !

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 27 Aug 2017 18:42

Something Is "Brewing" Behind The Headlines !

Trump’s Afghan policy: Senior US official to arrive in Pakistan tomorrow

ISLAMABAD – US Acting Assistant Secretary of State, Alice Wells will arrive Pakistan on an emergency tour on tomorrow (Monday).

According to media reports, In reference to US President Donald Trump’s statement about Pakistan, she will take Pakistan military and civil leadership into confidence pertaining to US policy and the present situation in the South Asia. It is her second visit to Pakistan within two weeks. US State Department has portrayed her visit very important. Most likely, she may bypass the new FO, and head straight to Bajwa's office.

Her visit to Islamabad will be the American diplomat’s second this month which follows President Donald Trump’s announcement of new Afghan policy with deployment of thousands more troops in the war-torn country and pillorying Pakistan for offering safe haven to militants

. Whether POTUS, means business, this time, is anybody's guess !

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 27 Aug 2017 18:57

Hijras Of Pakistan ( AKA Transgenders ) Reject "Sialkoti Statistics" On Census Results !

Transgender community rejects census results

LAHORE – The transgender community has rejected the figures of transgender population revealed in the latest census carried out earlier this year by the Pakistan Bureau of Statistic (PBS), calling the data inaccurate and misleading.

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The country’s total population of transgender people reported in the sixth Population and Housing Census is 10,418. The second highest population of transgender people is in Sindh — 2,527 or 24pc. Khyber Pakhtunkhwa houses 913 transgender people and Balochistan 109. Anyone with a basic knowledge of Pakiland, would outright reject this "manufactured in Sialkot number" , which attempts to (wrongly ) convince (i) the the outside world that in an Islamic society, such deviations are rare . Probably, the Mullah Brigade would also "laugh out " this obvious deception !

While talking to Daily Pakistan, trans rights activist Kami Sid claimed that according to an estimate, there are more than 3 million transgender persons across Pakistan, with almost 20,000 transgender persons registered in Lahore-based trans rights organization NAZ. The Hijras, if they have political clout, should demand a recount of this deception, which sees to underplay their influence in the Islamic society of Pakiland

She said that the procedure of counting transgender people was overtly flawed. “Who have they counted?” Kami asked, adding the identification of transgender is still disputed. If Pakistan, truly wants all sectors of society sitting at the "democratic table", they should "reserve" a few seats for them in their National Assembly. Doubt that it can happen in the Islam charged atmosphere of current Pakistan

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 27 Aug 2017 19:05

Another "Honour Killing" Performed In Pakjab !

Woman axed to death for ‘honour’ in Chiniot

FAISALABAD – A man has allegedly killed his sister near Chiniot in the name of honour, local media reported.

As per reports, the accused named Abbas Umar attacked his sister with an axe after he suspected his sister was not of “good character”. The incident took place in Chak No 140 of Rajoa Police Station area in Chiniot. The police handed over the corpse to relatives, besides registering a case against the suspects.

On Friday, a man killed his wife and her alleged lover for honour in Cheechana Ghunda area. According to the police, the accused went furious after finding his wife and her alleged lover in his house and killed them.

It would be a long, long, long time before (i) normal man-woman inter exchanges are permitted in Pakiland (ii) "love marriages" are accepted and young woman are not forced to marry their cousins and uncles (iii) the Mullah Brigade will ever accept this drastic change

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 27 Aug 2017 19:27

anupmisra wrote:Altaf Hussain new video against Pakistan Army

ISI HQ, Suhrwardy Rd: 33°42'12.94"N, 73° 4'48.71"E
Across the street (7th ave), and along the Khayaban-e-Suhrwardy is the Aabpara Market. ISI HQ is also referred to as "Aabpara" because it is right across the street from this market
Red Mosque (That Pervez Mushy Attacked): 33°42'45.68"N, 73° 5'13.40"E

arun · Post by **arun** » 27 Aug 2017 20:40

Bart S wrote:
RCase wrote:CPEC - See Pak End up as Chootiyas!

Trump's new Afghan strategy is actually a ploy against CPEC, claims Russian journalist
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1491843/tr ... ournalist/

Gagan wrote:These Roosis...
Everyone is lining up to make a 400% mamu of Pakistan

Even I 400% support the China Pakistan Endless Chootiyapa

This is the same idiot from that Katehon site. Can hardly be called a 'Russian' POV. The Pakis themselves pay for such articles by nobodies to be written and then quote it to buttress their delusional claims.

Author of the article Andrew Korybko has certainly written for Katehon and further he has a history of being rude and nasty to India. Having said that I am not so sure that one can dismiss Katehon as not representing a Russian POV. I say that as The Weekly Standard says that Katehon Board of Supervisors member Alexandr Dugin was described as “Putin’s Rasputin” and describes the Katehon website/think tank as “Kremlin-backed”:

'Putin's Rasputin' Endorses Trump

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 27 Aug 2017 23:28

Falijee wrote:Something Is "Brewing" Behind The Headlines !

Trump’s Afghan policy: Senior US official to arrive in Pakistan tomorrow

Per Dawn: The trip was postponed at the request of the Government of Pakistan, US Embassy spokesman Rick Sinelsine told DawnNews via email.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Aug 2017 23:41

Zardari trying to present himself as Dalal for Army: NS and his Brother on Glide path to meet Bhutto

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Aug 2017 05:47

Paki Propaganda Against POTUS Creates An Atmosphere Of Anti- US Sentiment .

Top US diplomat’s Pakistan visit postponed

Pakistan postponed a visit by a US acting Assistant Secretary of State, officials said, as small protests broke out against President Donald Trump’s accusations that Islamabad was prolonging the war in Afghanistan. The visit of Alice Wells, acting assistant Secretary of State for South and Asian Affairs, scheduled for Monday, would have been the first high-profile visit by a US official since Trump’s Afghan policy speech on Aug. 21. “At the request of the Government of Pakistan, Acting Assistant Secretary Wells’ trip has been postponed until a mutually convenient time,” a US Embassy spokesperson told Reuters in Islamabad on Sunday. The Paki Deep State is "preparing" the awaam in advance , for "further economic hardships" which will be blamed squarely on Massa.

Pakistan’s foreign ministry released a statement with similar wording.Neither side gave a reason for the postponement, but U.S. officials working in Pakistan have been on high-alert since Monday’s speech.
Trump accused Pakistan of harbouring “agents of chaos” and providing safe havens to militant groups waging an insurgency against a US-backed government in Kabul.Pakistani officials responded by saying the US should not “scapegoat” Pakistan and accused the American military of failing to eliminate militant sanctuaries inside Afghanistan.

Police disperse rally from marching towards US Consulate in Karachi

Police on Sunday resorted to baton charge and fired tear gas to stop a rally which was marching towards the US Consulate in Karachi.The rally was organised by the Imamia Student Organisation (ISO), and was intended to march from Numaish to the US Consulate located on MT Khan Road. However, the rally was forcefully dispersed near the Shah-e-Khurasan Imambargah by the police to prevent them from marching towards the US consulate.
The "Death to America" rally, comprised of nearly 500 protesters, was taken out to protest against the recent statement by US President Donald Trump who accused Pakistan of providing safe havens to terror groups.

The rally titled ‘Death to America’ was carried out in Lahore as well, on the Canal Bank Road that turned the traffic sluggish. The Paki Awaam are brain-washed too well by their leaders . Rightly or wrongly the US is the main target. Pakistan (fauj) "resents" the dirty work that she is ordered to do by the US for which is paid "top dollars" as befits a rentier state. And at the same time, it does that , it creates an Anti USA atmosphere through it's propaganda , which the Aam Abduls "lap it up" and manifests itself in protest, violence, danger to US citizens living in Pakistan. IOW, it also serves as a Diplomatic Tool for Pakiland !

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Aug 2017 05:54

Dus Percenti "Delights" In Ganja's Plights !

We faced trumped up cases before courts: Zardari

Mr. Ten Percent is basking in his recent acquittal by the Paki justice system

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Aug 2017 06:13

Zalmay Khalilzad Ex US Ambassador To Afghanistan Agrees On Trump's "Get Tough" Policy With Pakistan.

Former ambassador: Trump more focused than Obama, Bush on Pakistan

The former U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan on Sunday said President Trump is more focused on Pakistan than his last two predecessors.
“I don't think either President Bush or President Obama focused as sharply, as clearly, that the sanctuary issue, Pakistan's both role as a facilitator of and a help to Afghanistan and as a sanctuary for those who fight us and in exchange, receive a lot of assistance, is not the number,” Zalmay Khalilzad, the ambassador to Afghanistan under President Bush, said on ABC's "This Week."

“This has been, in my judgment, the single most important factor, the Pakistan problem, for prolonging the war ... the sanctuary issues.” Trump's new policy on Afghanistan, announced last week, includes a plan to pressure Pakistan into taking a harder line on terrorist groups. Trump accused the country of providing safe havens to such groups.

Khalilzad said the United States has leverage over Pakistan it has not yet used, including cutting off assistance. If USA can find ways and means of keeping its supply route open , without transiting through Pakistan, then it is possible to apply "maximum pressure" as suggested by the Ex Ambassador . Otherwise, IMO, it will have to succumb to Paki blackmail pressure

“We have the leverage of putting those individuals, as we do it in the case of ... Russia — or we do it in the case of Iran, to put individuals who support groups such as the Taliban, terrorist groups like Haqqani, on a blacklist,” he said. Bush and Obama also tried to pressure Pakistan into taking a harder line on terrorist groups, but their actions did not yield significant results, thanks in part to fears of alienating a major non-NATO ally. Pakistan denies that it provides safe haven to terrorists. Like it denied that they knew that OBL was living a few kilometres away from the Paki equivalent of West Point ! ( Kakul )

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Aug 2017 06:30

Republican Party Leader Of Paki Origin Wants Maulana Diesel To Tone Down His Anti- American Rhetoric .

US Republican Party leader meets JUI-F chief

Islamabad: Professor Dr. Gholam Mujtaba, a senior leader of the Republican Party of the United States, met President of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (Fazl) Maulana Fazlur Rahman, says a press release issued here. They discussed matters related to eliminating terrorism, particularly in Fata and tribal areas that borders Afghanistan, and the chaos in held Kashmir. “There is a need to address U.S. concerns in all seriousness and above political rhetoric by Pakistani politicians”, said Dr. Mujtaba. Of course, this is all couched in diplomatic language so as not to offend the Maulana's H & D

“Maulana Fazalur Rahman is in a position to help bring peace in the region, and the meeting will result in positive outcome by engaging all the stake-holders and crushing terrorist networks. There is a communication gap between the leadership the regional and international stake-holders, and the same has been maintained purposely by forces inimical to Pakistan which has resulted in policy shift of Pakistan.

It was well crafted by the foes of Pakistan and the United States to dismantle the ever growing relationship between both the nations. I will do my best to salvage the situation in the larger interest of Pakistan and the United States”, the statement of Dr. Gholam Mujtaba added. Whether the Doctor has the official blessings of GOTUS in this mission is not stated, but obviously, he is hoping that Diesel ( who is a full-fledged supporter of the "Good Taliban - the Afghan "branch" ) will tone down his anti- US statements for which - I am sure - he would be promised "more than enough" compensation

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Aug 2017 07:07

Haj Operations Being "Illegally Abused " To Make Money In The Islamic Republic Of Pakistan

Audit reveals billions in irregularities in 2016 Haj operation

ISLAMABAD: Auditors have found gross mismanagement and financial errors worth billions of rupees in the 2016 Haj operation, and uncovered a move by the Ministry of Religious Affairs to grant illegal favours to banks that collected Haj fees from applicants.“Audit is of the view that non-adjustment of advances was [a] violation of rules and may lead to misappropriation,” said the auditor general of Pakistan’s (AGP) report on the ministry’s finances.
The most serious audit objection relates to the ministry’s failure to provide documentary proof of expenditures made in regard to a Rs4.94 billion advance, paid to the Director General Haj, Jeddah from the Haj account and the Pilgrim Welfare Fund for the 2015 Haj operation. It is obviously illegal to misappropriate government funds but in Pakistan, which opted itself to be an Islamic Republic, ( to gain the sympathy of the Ummah against Non - Islamic India ) it should be crime of the highest order to fleece the government in the name of one of the five pillars of Malsi ie Hajj !!!

Most damning, however, is the revelation that while the Ministry of Religious Affairs and Interfaith Harmony was informed about the audit requirements August 18, 2016, it submitted no reply to the AGP office. Fear of retribution, high officials involved in the scam , "do-not care" attitude , it could be any of these reasons !

Apart from not producing vouchers and other documentary evidence related to Haj expenditure, there are 10 other serious allegations of mismanagement against the ministry, most of which are related to the Haj operation.
One audit objection related to the ‘illegal change in the MoUs to favour banks’, which allowed banks to keep the profits on the amounts submitted by unsuccessful applicants. The audit report pointed out that before Haj 2015, the profit made by banks on Haj fees submitted by applicants was forwarded to the ministry. However, an amendment was made by the ministry in its contract with the banks, without the approval of the Ministry of Law and Justice, stipulating that banks would pay the profits on fee amounts paid by successful applicants.

Due to this amendment, banks did not pay interest to the ministry on the amounts submitted by unsuccessful applicants, which were retained for 60 days or more. The ministry also did not extend any support to the auditors in determining the financial implication of this change, the report stated. When the whole government apparatus is corrupt from the top ( Ganja ) to the bottom ( the chaprasi at the Passport Office ) , the auditor's report will likely gather dust

The ministry has also not recovered around Rs89.16 million in interest from the banks, in connection with late payment of Haj dues pertaining to previous years. In another objection, auditors pointed out that the ministry had failed to recover Rs83.49 million from the banks in terms of interest from fee deposits made by successful applicants. Of course, there must be some sort of a collusion between the Bank and the Ministry for this to happen . ( something like , you scratch my back, and I will scratch yours !)

Ministry officials allegedly also gave another benefit to the banks by not making a term deposit of 12.50 million Saudi Riyals – the balance amount – after closing the 2014 Haj operation. This, it was estimated, caused a loss of around Rs34.02 million. Auditors have suggested strict action against the relevant officers in this regard.

Apart from "suggesting strict action", nothing else will likely be done !

The audit report also highlighted unnecessary expenditure of Rs38.91 million for rent of an office building, which could have been avoided by shifting to E- Block of the Pakistan Secretariat, where office space has been reserved for the Ministry of Religious Affairs.Auditors maintained that the ministry also caused financial losses to other government departments by charging them around Rs27.72 million for seasonal Haj duties, to serve pilgrims in Saudi Arabia and in Pakistan.

It revealed how the ministry deputed 192 of its own employees for seasonal duties, as well as 99 employees of other ministries.However, these ministries were charged for the services of the seasonal staff, instead of being paid from the Pilgrim Welfare Fund, as stated in the 2014 Haj Policy. All of this should be brought to the attention of the Mullah Brigade for necessary action ( unless they too are in on the scam and receive their necessary share of commission )

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Aug 2017 07:43

Heroin double-cross on high-seas - ToI

Read the above thriller.

By nightfall, three big speedboats came near the ship, anchored about 70 nautical miles away from the port, and started unloading white packets. This continued for three nights with the stock of highquality heroin reaching 1,500kg.The operation was conducted under the watchful eyes of Khaled Mohamed and Mustafa, suspected to be agents of Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) {I suspect Dawood also being involved in the operation at the Pakistan end.}, who were to remain on the ship till the end of the voyage.

Agencies believe that the pure heroin, with brand names such as Lady Diana, 888 and 999, was made from opium illegally produced in south-east Afghanistan, near the border with Pakistan. Labs in Pakistan processed it in cooperation with local drug lords and the ISI, to turn it into expensive heroin, which is in great demand in Europe, the US and Southeast Asia. The final consignments - in 1kg and 500g bags - would be smuggled to various countries across the globe through sea and land routes. According to rough estimates, the sea routes out of Pakistani ports ferry 8 tonnes of heroin every year. Thus, if everything went to plan, the ship would have carried a sixth of the contraband being shipped out of Pakistan.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 28 Aug 2017 08:54

Falijee wrote:If USA can find ways and means of keeping its supply route open , without transiting through Pakistan, then it is possible to apply "maximum pressure" as suggested by the Ex Ambassador . Otherwise, IMO, it will have to succumb to Paki blackmail pressure

I respectfully disagree. I don't agree with this BS about mighty superpower USA being intimidated by pipsqueak TSP's threat to close supply routes. Two things easily US can do (and it has in the past on other 'bad guys' that threatened its interests):

1. US can threaten, like Richard Armitage did post 9/11,that Islamabad, LaWhore etc will be bombed to a dirt parking lot

2. With the entire UN under its feet, US can even take the legal route, passing some bogus resolution (Chincoms are not as powerful as we think to challenge US should push comes to shove) making TSP's support to 'bad guys' (sans India specific pigLeTs to get Chincom support) is illegal and crippling sanctions will be imposed if TSP and Talibunnies do not surrender.

Now we have endlessly debated why #1 and #2 are not even the 1000th option, and you guessed it: If TSP is history which surely will be case, who will then bottle up those rabid smelly darkie SDRE cow and baba worshiping "Hindoos"?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 28 Aug 2017 11:54

Are you sure US threatened and Pakis caved in as in mentioned in the Public, cause after 9/11 Pakis have been supplied 50 F-16's with Amraam's, they were USD 20 Billion direct aid and many more Billions in Free bees and still kept Osama next to a military compound.

And with CNN etc sucking up to Pakis.

Perhaps 9/11 was a way of the Paki/Chini/Saudi alliance showing how they can kill/bring bodily harm to the US elite and US elite which live in NE USA is scared. And through assets like Awan, they probably have a lot of dirty secrets of US deep state.

The way US acted after 9/11 till 2010 was literally suck up to Pakis, Pakis who were hardly in the US have subsequently been given a liberal number of visas to the USA. And USA gave them a lot while Pakis directly killed many US soldiers.

Look at what has happenned after 9/11
1. Pakis attacked the Indian Parliament and conducted more and more Inhuman Terror attacks in India without reprisal and Got US backing, in fact even getting Indian IT business leaders to threaten the Indian Govt against attacking Pakis
2. Got an unprecedented amount of Military hardware and cash which has clearly delayed Bankcruptcy by atleast 20 years.

Why would US pay such a tribute/Jaziya for bad behavior. It clearly indicates USA feels Pakis are not Iraq/Libya etc to attack them militarily and perhaps the US elite sitting at the top feel threatened by the clout/assets Pakis have in the US that can harm them.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 28 Aug 2017 12:46

For the first time, US backs India on Kashmir
http://inwww.rediff.com/news/column/for ... 170828.htm

'It is for the first time in 70 years that the US has come out totally in India's favour on the Kashmir issue,' says Colonel Anil A Athale (retd).

On August 21, 2017, American President Donald J Trump announced his Afghanistan policy.While there was much that was 'old' (the use of military force to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table), there were also some new elements. For the first time, the US openly named Pakistan as the main culprit behind the Afghan violence. The statement also for the first time urged India to play a constructive role in Afghanistan. It is easy to dismiss the whole exercise as 'old wine in an old bottle', but that would be ignorant.

For starters, Trump has avoided his predecessor's mistake in announcing an expiry date on American intervention or the US troop presence in Afghanistan.By announcing a withdrawal date, Barack Obama actually encouraged the Taliban to wait the Americans out and in-built the failure of his 'surge' strategy!

Trump has bluntly stated that he will bomb the Taliban to the negotiating table. A few months ago, the US dropped a giant conventional bomb (MOAB or mother of all bombs), a signal in that direction. The Afghan Taliban should expect a heavier US air offensive. Trump has also put Pakistan on notice for its backing and sanctuaries for the Taliban. One should expect drone strikes in Pakistani territory.

One should not make the mistake of dismissing the new policy as 'temporary' due to the weakness of the Trump administration. The policy review has a clear Pentagon stamp on it. Trump relies heavily on military advice and this is no exception. So irrespective of whatever may be the fate of the Trump presidency, this policy prescription is likely to last a while.

Looking at the recent moves by the US on Kashmir, together with its new Afghan formulations, it marks a 'revolutionary' change from the past. On June 26, 2017 when Prime Minister Narendra D Modi visited the US, the Americans declared the Hizbul Mujhideen international terrorists. It was a major diplomatic coup for India. Last week, as a follow up measure, the US declared the HM an international terrorist organisation. It is for the first time in 70 years that the US has come out totally in India's favour on the Kashmir issue. It has ipso facto rejected the Pakistani argument that HM members are 'freedom fighters', and not terrorists. The unrest in Kashmir, in the US' eyes, is terrorism and not a freedom struggle.

Worldwide Islamist attacks have indeed worked in India's favour. The rest of the Western world is likely to follow suit. Not surprisingly, news has come of the UK tightening the screws on Dawood Ibrahim, the fugitive Indian gangster involved in spreading terror in India in collaboration with Pakistan. This is a total reversal of the situation when for the last 70 years the entire Western world ganged up against India in the UN Security Council. We were saved by the Soviet Union's veto from UN intervention.Today the only major power standing behind Pakistan is China.

The enormity of the change ought to make headlines in India. After all, the US-Pakistan military relationship goes back to World War II. The Organization of Strategic Services -- that later morphed into the Central Intelligence Agency -- had cultivated contacts with Muslim officers in the Indian Army. Pakistan was quickly absorbed into the chain of pro-Western States, to surround the Soviet Union. The price the US paid for this was unstinted support to Pakistan over Kashmir and generous military aid. American military aid to Pakistan over the years has made sure that the numerically small Pakistani army had a technological edge over the larger Indian Army. This practice has continued all through under one pretext or the other.

Many Pakistanis have put on a brave face and argued that the Chinese will replace the Americans. These Pakistanis point to the huge loans China has given them. However, the Chinese cannot match the Americans in military technology. For the first time in 70 years India may begin to enjoy a qualitative military edge on the Indian subcontinent.

Obviously the aid cut off to Pakistan will take time to manifest itself on the ground. But over time this will help India deal with cross border terrorism as sophisticated arms were available to the terrorists, courtesy the Pakistan army. This will also impose caution on the Pakistani army in border skirmishes and after a time gap make India's 'Cold Start' response to terror attacks a reality.

Colonel Anil A Athale (retd) is a military historian.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 28 Aug 2017 15:41

Amid security threat, (thousands of) Chinese move to Pakistan in hope for opportunities in new silk route
WION Web Team New Delhi, India Aug 28, 2017
http://www.wionews.com/south-asia/amid- ... lops-19573

amohan2001 · Post by **amohan2001** » 28 Aug 2017 15:44

With Doklam issue resolved, can we now continue pounding Paki border posts and area domination patrols across LOC.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 28 Aug 2017 18:26

amohan2001 wrote:With Doklam issue resolved, can we now continue pounding Paki border posts and area domination patrols across LOC.

Why was it stopped in the first place? Or was it?

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Aug 2017 18:49

Pakistan Gets First Batch of Mi-35M Assault Helicopters

Pakistan and Russia agreed to a helicopter deal back in June 2015 when the then-Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Gen. Raheel Sharif was on a visit to Russia. A preliminary agreement was signed between Pakistani and Russian representatives at the Pakistan Army General Headquarters in Rawalpindi in August 2015. They were scheduled to be delivered in 2017.The Pakistan’s Defence Export Promotion Organization (DEPO) has now confirmed the Pakistan Military has taken delivery of four Mi-35M helicopters. Brig. Gen. Waheed Mumtaz, an officer working for DEPO issued the statement during the annual International Military-Technical Forum (Army 2017) which took place in Moscow this month from the 22nd to 27th. The Mi-35M helicopter is expected to replace Pakistan’s fleet of obsolete AH-1 Cobra attack helicopters. Over the next few years, the Army is expected to obtain a total of 20 Mi-35M helicopters from Russia.

My question: how is this almost insolvent artificial entity paying for all these "brand new toys", which ultimately will be used against the locals ( in the guise of "fighting terrorism") or against India, on one pretext or the other . !

The Mi35M, in comparison to the Mi-24, is also fitted with new main and tail rotors. Next to a chin-mounted twin-barrel GSh-23V 23 millimeter cannon, the Mi-35M helicopter can be armed with 80 and 120 millimeter rockets, and anti-tank guided missiles. Powered by two TV3-117VMA or VK-2500 turboshaft engines, the Mi-35M can deploy anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM), guided and laser-guided rockets and gun-pods. Besides its two aircrew, the Mi-35M can also carry eight armed personnel in its cabin and ferry cargo of up to 2,400 kg with a sling.

Pakistan is continuously expanding its close air-support capabilities. Apart from the Mi-35M helicopters, Pakistan is also in line to receive 15 AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters, the sale of which was approved by the U.S Department of State in April 2015.

Can POTUS use this as a leverage ?

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Aug 2017 18:54

Two soldiers ~~martyred~~ KILLED in operation near Angoor Adda: ISPR

Two soldiers were ~~martyred~~ killed during a search operation near Angoor Adda area of South Waziristan agency, informed ISPR. Sepoy Ataur Rehman and Sepoy Imran Ali lost their lives in an IED blast during a search operation under Operation Radd-ul-Fasaad. Meanwhile, Frontier Corps Balochistan destroyed four terrorists’ camps in different intelligence-based operations on Sunday, according to Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR).Two terrorists were also killed during an exchange of fire in different areas including Kahan and Dera Bugti. In another IBO, FC Balochistan (South) successfully foiled a terror attack. In the last two days, FC Balochistan (South) has busted a network of terrorists and their facilitators.

When "two" are openly admitted as being killed, the real number may actually be higher, IMO

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Aug 2017 19:08

Pakistan, Uhappy With Massa, Spells Out, What Is Is Going To Do In The Future

Pakistan to bring major changes in nature of ties with US: sources

Pakistan has decided to bring changes in nature of its relationship with United States at diplomatic level, reported Waqt News. According to sources, Pakistan will not interact with US government on bases of old ties. The diplomatic communication will not be conducted as an strategic partner and ally of US, sources mentioned. But financial aid ( or beggary !) will still be "openly welcomed"

Furthermore, no US administration official will be allowed to visit Pakistan without government’s approval. Any official who will come without approval or permission will not be welcomed by the government, sources asserted. IMO, as expected, Pakistan is behaving like a "spoiled child". The US can "counterattack" by threatening to cut all financial aid ( behind closed doors for H&D reasons !) and things will cool down

Earlier it was reported that Prime Minister Khaqan Abbasi will visit United States in third week of September where he will attend United Nations' General Assembly meeting.

Furthermore, PM Abbasi told US media that Trump's Afghan policy is poised to fail. During an interview, he said that Pakistan is ready to assist Afghanistan in its fight against terrorists but will not allow it to be brought on its soil.
"Afghan government should deal with Taliban itself," he asserted. With Ganja gone, Abbasi is the new mouthpiece of the Paki Fauj