Oh, I do agree with the "gist" ,but was just pointing out it wasn't due to the the turbo piston engine.deejay wrote:^^^you missed the point.
Yes, that is why these Predator-clones are all over the Middle East and why even J-10s or J-11s are rare in Tibet never mind drones.deejay wrote:You are talking of cruising at 25000 feet right and I am talking of take off from Tibet. I am sure Physics does not allow great PE performance from Tibet even for Chinese PLA or PLAAF.pravula wrote:...
Sorry, no special physics applies to IA or IAF. All combustion engines loose power will reduced air flow, compressors are there to address this issue.
Turbocharged or not, I don't see people doing well with even jets at those altitudes. Neither will Chinese UAVs.
https://theprint.in/2017/09/27/china-me ... -pakistan/#China #PLA strategical mega fortress #Djibouti has unprecedented security.Massive storage base2feed Div+ for>3mnths
massive
fortress is being constructed that can easily accommodate over a brigade
strength force, has an unprecedented four-layered security ring and can
handle a dozen helicopters.
AdityaM wrote:If India threatens chinese sea lanes via Malacca, is Djibouti the Chinese counter?
https://twitter.com/rajfortyseven/statu ... 3999527939https://theprint.in/2017/09/27/china-me ... -pakistan/#China #PLA strategical mega fortress #Djibouti has unprecedented security.Massive storage base2feed Div+ for>3mnths
massive
fortress is being constructed that can easily accommodate over a brigade
strength force, has an unprecedented four-layered security ring and can
handle a dozen helicopters.
I don’t think any of the four they have building in Shanghai and Dalian are actually in the water yet. But 13K tons DDGs being built in parallel in multiple shipyards are food for thought while we wait for four Visakhapatnams at half their size from MDL onlee.Cain Marko wrote:055 type launched. Massive destroyer this @ 13500 tons
Sirji HAL cannot reinvest Retained Earnings without approval of the board/shareholders. If GOI has no interest HAL has no interest.chola wrote:Clip of the J-31 opening its bay. Looks huge.
Still no official support it seems. Probably will be hawked to Pakiland. An indication of the state of their industry when a chini PSU can design and build a prototype of a fvcking stealth fighter to pitch to the military.
This is what the American MIC does. And what HAL should do. Instead of waiting for funding from the MoF through the MoD for any new project, why not take some of that profit from the MKI project and invest in a new feasible design that it can propose to the MoD?
Yes, I know. That is why there must be change. If it can’t come organically to the PSUs then it must be done through the private sector or competitive pressure from there.rkhanna wrote:Sirji HAL cannot reinvest Retained Earnings without approval of the board/shareholders. If GOI has no interest HAL has no interest.chola wrote:Clip of the J-31 opening its bay. Looks huge.
Still no official support it seems. Probably will be hawked to Pakiland. An indication of the state of their industry when a chini PSU can design and build a prototype of a fvcking stealth fighter to pitch to the military.
This is what the American MIC does. And what HAL should do. Instead of waiting for funding from the MoF through the MoD for any new project, why not take some of that profit from the MKI project and invest in a new feasible design that it can propose to the MoD?
The first airbase with possible ski ramps was noticed in June 2010 at Huangdicun near Xincheng. The airbase construction started in April 2009 and was operational by the end of 2011.
The airbase has two ski ramps and two wire traps with arrestor cables. It has 24 aircraft shelters with one shelter for possible UAV parking, three large hangars possibly for UAVs, one large hangar for airborne early warning and control (AEWC) planes and other administrative facilities.
The airbase was upgraded with two catapults between 2015 and 2016. The first catapult-assisted take off was observed on satellite imagery in October 2016. The two catapults (steam and electromagnetic) suggest that future carrier vessels of the PLAN will have catapult assisted take off but arrested recovery or CATOBAR.
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The aircraft usually observed on this airbase are J-15, which are the basic naval aviation backbone developed based on Su-33 of Russian origin. It has features such as missile approach warning system (MAWS), glass cockpit, tail sting and WS-10H engines with improved thrust for ski-ramp take offs.
UAVs and JL-9s have also been observed on this airbase. The presence of JL-9, in addition to J-15 aircraft, on the airbase suggests higher pilot to aircraft ratio.
The UAVs seen on the catapults suggest the future Chinese carrier vessels will have UAVs with CATOBAR (a system used for the launch and recovery of aircraft from the deck of an aircraft carrier) version.
There have been three accidents, two of them fatal. Both fatal accidents occurred in the month of April 2016. The first one was on the ground training facility at Huangdicun and the other was on board Liaoning.
Two of these accidents could be identified on the satellite imagery much before the official announcement. The first one was identified in the last week of June 2016 from the remains of burn marks on the grass, approximately 700 m from the first arrestor cable.
Good. We need to get the Han from their comfort zone in Shanghai in to the frozen heights of Tibet.Aditya_V wrote:Looking at Google earth, more and more facilities of PLA are coming up in Chumbi Valley, they are flooding the valley, see coordinates 27°31'13.4"N 88°58'17.1"E (27.520389, 88.971407 in decimals)
In all those instances money came indirectly from the state since the defense industry in the US is largely a 1 customer set up. The difference is that what allowed private industry to secure shareholder and institutional funding for their IRAD projects was the prospect of state funded profit stream down the road. In other words they took some risk, Northrop and McD along spent just shy of $900 Million dollars of their own money on the failed YF23 project back in the late 80s and early 90s.Look at US competition of the past: F-14 vs F-111, YF-16 vs YF-17 (became F-18), YF-22 vs YF-23, F-18E/F vs A-12. Advances come heavy and quickly in competition where firms stake their future in developing advance yet achievable designs. A communist-type system where money must come from the state for every project can never be as efficient or innovative.
Please consider this as choti mooh badi baat. This site was marked by rajfortyseven on Twitter and was cross posted on BRF but I have a real problem with accepting this as a regular military site for the following reasons. I say this after spending hours and hours looking for Chinese military sites.Aditya_V wrote:Looking at Google earth, more and more facilities of PLA are coming up in Chumbi Valley, they are flooding the valley, see coordinates 27°31'13.4"N 88°58'17.1"E (27.520389, 88.971407 in decimals)
Kartik wrote:PLAAF JL-9 crashes, pilots eject safely
CHINESE STEALTH GOES OPERATIONAL, CARRIER PROGRAM AND EXPORT INITIATIVES ACCELERATE
Oct 25 2017
By Tom Demerly
CHINA’S OPERATIONAL STEALTH FIGHTER: THE J-20
CHINA’S DF-41 ICBM: GLOBAL STRIKE CAPABILITY IN WORLD’S LONGEST RANGE ICBM.THE SHENYANG J-31 GYRFALCON: CHINA’S JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER?The Dongfeng-41 or DF-41 is an impressive and menacing missile system. It has the longest range of any ICBM in the world, surpassing the U.S. LGM-30 Minuteman III by a significant margin. Various sources quote the U.S. LGM-30 as having an approximate strike range of nearly 8,000 miles. But the Chinese and external analysts suggest the range of the DF-41 exceeds 9,000 miles.
The DF-41 ICBM, developed beginning in late July, 2012, takes a page from Israeli ICBM development on their Jericho 3 ICBM by being so fast it is likely impossible to intercept. The DF-41 flies at Mach 25 or 19,000+ M.P.H. enabling it to strike nearly every target in the world in less than an hour.
THE CHINESE AIRCRAFT CARRIER PROGRAM: FROM BUYING USED TO BUILDING AT HOME.
CHINESE GUNSHIPS: A NEW CATEGORY FOR A NEW WORLD ORDER.
CHINESE RPA’S, ALREADY AN EXPORT SUCCESS WITH NEW MODELS COMING.
The note about track discipline is interesting. So they had set it up in hurry and had to do lots of trips to feed and oil the brigade. It could also mean to be a deliberately noted by us as mark of intentions.AdityaM wrote:Chinese troops are amassed near Doklam plateau, satellite images show
Lots of images & analysis
Being prudent doesn’t imply being shit scared.nam wrote: The fact that they had dispersed over large area and had air defense tells how sh** scared they are of IAF attacks. This does not indicate a offensive posture.
China has successfully tested high-altitude spy drones which could help it dominate "near space", a region of the Earth's atmosphere, a media report said.
Near space, which begins at about 20km above sea level, has until now been regarded a "death zone" for drones due to thin air and extremely low temperatures.
At this altitude, thin air makes it hard to generate lift for a drone while extremely low temperature means electronic components, like batteries are prone to fail.
The goal of scientists is to develop a durable near space vehicle capable of observing large areas for weeks, months or even years on end.
Drones, which would cost just a fraction of what a satellite with comparable abilities would cost, are seen as one of the best ways of reaching that goal.
Until now, the Northrop Grumman RQ-4 Global Hawk, which can reach to an altitude of about 19km, has been the highest-flying drone in use.
Last month, a research facility in Inner Mongolia successfully tested an experimental drone at an altitude of 25km, the report said.
The test involved two experimental unmanned aerial vehicles being sent up on a high-pressure balloon before being deployed at different altitudes. The second drone was deployed at an altitude of nine-km, it said.
Each of the drones, which are about the size of a bat, was launched using an electromagnetic pulse that accelerated them from zero to 100 km within a space of about the length of an arm.
"It shot out like a bullet," said Yang Yanchu, lead scientist of the project with the Academy of Optoelectronics at the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing.
The drones then glided towards their targets more than 100km away, adjusting course and altitude in flight without human intervention. On-board sensors beamed data back to a ground station.
"The goal of our research is to launch hundreds of these drones in one shot, like letting loose a bee or ant colony," Yang said.
Potential modernization plans or ambitions of the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) were revealed in unprecedented detail by a former rear admiral in a university lecture, perhaps delivered within the last 2-3 years. The admiral, retired Rear Admiral Zhao Dengping, revealed key programs such as: a new medium-size nuclear attack submarine; a small nuclear auxiliary engine for conventional submarines; ship-based use of anti-ship ballistic missiles (ASBMs); next-generation destroyer capabilities; and goals for PLAN Air Force modernization.
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A New SSN
Admiral Zhao described a new unidentified 7,000-ton nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN) that will feature a “new type of powerplant…new weapon system [and] electronic information system.” An image shows this SSN featuring a sound isolation raft and propulsor which should reduce its acoustic signature, 12 cruise missile tubes in front of the sail, and a bow and sail similar to the current Type 093 SSN. This design appears to have a single hull, which would be a departure from current PLAN submarine design practice, but the 7,000 ton weigh suggests it may reflect the lower-cost weight and capability balance seen in current U.S. and British SSNs.
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Small Nuclear Powerplant
Zhao also revealed the PLAN may be working on a novel low power/low pressure auxiliary nuclear powerplant for electricity generation for fitting into conventional submarine designs, possibly succeeding the PLAN’s current Stirling engine-based air independent propulsion (AIP) systems.
One slide seems to suggest that the PLAN will continue to build smaller submarines around the size of current conventional powered designs, but that they will be modified to carry the new nuclear auxiliary powerplant to give them endurance advantages of nuclear power. While the PLA would likely seek longer endurance, it may be attracted by the potential cost savings of a nuclear auxiliary powered submarine compared to a SSN.
Sure and it is also Chinese dhoti shivering.AdityaM wrote:Being prudent doesn’t imply being shit scared.nam wrote: The fact that they had dispersed over large area and had air defense tells how sh** scared they are of IAF attacks. This does not indicate a offensive posture.
Breakthrough to power most advanced jet launch system on China’s second home-grown aircraft carrier
Military chiefs have given green light for new integrated propulsion system capable of powering electromagnetic catapults, experts say
Minnie Chan
UPDATED : Wednesday, 1 Nov 2017, 11:47PM
A technological breakthrough in naval propulsion will enable China’s second home-grown aircraft carrier to use the world’s most advanced jet launch system without having to resort to nuclear power, overcoming a huge hurdle in the vessel’s development, military sources said.
The development of the integrated propulsion system (IPS) would allow the vessel to be more efficient, allowing more power for an electromagnetic catapult, rather than a less technologically advanced steam-driven catapult launch system, the sources said.
[/quote]chola wrote:It looks like the chinis will be putting EMALS in an 80K-ton conventional carrier with an integrated power system (IPS.)
Khalsa wrote:Smart move !!chola wrote:It looks like the chinis will be putting EMALS in an 80K-ton conventional carrier with an integrated power system (IPS.)
EMALS and flattop instead of jumpSki !!
We will be seeing all kinds of Star Wars monstrosities in their giant MACH 9 JF-12 wind tunnel.Austin wrote:China just showed its hypersonic-BGV in a vid on 08 Oct. Probably a test design model, but AFAIK this is first pics of an actual object
https://twitter.com/soraywang/status/927286374193012736
Hypersonic Weapons : Is India Prepared For the Next War?
Col Saif Ul Islam Khan*
Introduction
A new flying platform travelled the length of Chinese territory in January 2014 as China conducted the flight of its new hypersonic vehicle[1]. This is major step forward in China’s strategic nuclear and conventional strike capability as it gives China the ability to strike long distances in a very short span of time.
‘The New Year’ for India thus started with a new challenge as she found her skies subject to penetration by a potential adversary, and her territories open to easy targeting.
Pictures not very clear, but looks like wave-rider concept.Austin wrote:China just showed its hypersonic-BGV in a vid on 08 Oct. Probably a test design model, but AFAIK this is first pics of an actual object
https://twitter.com/soraywang/status/927286374193012736
