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X Posted from the Terroristan thread.

Full text of the statement of our Minister of External Affairs Sushma Swaraj to our Parliament.

Our MEA confirms the obnoxious Mohammadden belief based supremacist behaviour towards Non-Mohammadden Kaafir Dhimmi’s on full display in the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Female kinfolk of kidnapped from Iran Commander Kulbhushan Jadhav (Retired) who was subjected to torture and a kangaroo trial by the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Punjabi Military dominated Deep State of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan are confirmed as having been stripped of Hindu cultural-religious accoutrements like Sari, Bindi, Bangles and Mangalsutra.

Guess this is another obnoxious meaning of what the “Jihad Fi Sabillilah”, or translated “Jihad In the path of allah”, part of the Uniformed Jihadi’s motto of “Iman. Taqwa, Jihad-fi-Sabilillah” stands for:
I rise to apprise the House of recent developments pertaining to Shri Kulbhushan Jadhav, an Indian national in the illegal custody of Pakistan. As the House is aware, his mother and wife met him on 25 December 2017 in Islamabad. The meeting was arranged through diplomatic channels.

2. In April 2017, I had made a statement in this House underlining the Government's determination to do everything possible to ensure Shri Jadhav's well-being and secure his release from illegal detention. Since then, the House is aware that we approached the International Court of Justice and obtained provisional measures that stayed the execution of the death sentence that was passed on Shri Jadhav through a farcical Pakistani military court process. While the imminent threat to Shri Jadhav's safety was averted as a result, we are now engaged in seeking a permanent relief, based on stronger arguments, through the legal avenue offered by the International Court of Justice.

3. I had also conveyed that we were in constant touch with the family at this difficult time. It was, therefore, natural that we took up the cause of family members who sought access to Shri Jadhav with a view to ascertaining his well-being for themselves. These efforts were pursued persistently through diplomatic channels. As a result, this month, the Pakistani authorities consented to a meeting between Shri Jadhav and his mother and wife.

4. While the meeting could have been a step forward, it is a matter of great concern that there was departure from the agreed understandings between the two countries in the conduct of this meeting. The emotional moment between a mother and her son, and a wife and her husband after a period of 22 months, was misused by Pakistan as an instrument to further its propaganda. The Ministry of External Affairs has stated our position in this regard publicly day before yesterday. Our concerns arising from this meeting were conveyed to Pakistan through diplomatic channels yesterday. I would like to highlight a few of them in this House:

(i) There was a clear agreement that the media would not be allowed close access to the mother and wife of Shri Jadhav. However, not only the Pakistani press was allowed to approach family members closely, but the family members were also harassed through use of offensive language by the media. The Pakistani media hurled false and motivated accusations about Shri Jadhav;

(ii) Under the pretext of security precautions, even the attire of the family members was changed. Mr Jadhav's mother, who wears a Sari only, was instead given Salwar and Kurta to wear. Bindi, bangles and mangal sutra of the wife were removed;

(iii) The mother of Shri Jadhav wanted to talk to her son in mother tongue Marathi, as this is clearly the natural medium of communication between a mother and son. However, the mother of Shri Jadhav was not allowed to speak in Marathi. While doing so, she was repeatedly interrupted by the two Pakistani officials present in the meeting. When she persisted, the intercom was closed and she was prevented from proceeding further with the conversation in Marathi;

(iv) The family members were taken for the meeting through a separate door without informing the Deputy High Commissioner of India, who had accompanied the family members for this meeting. Consequently, he could not see that the family members were being taken for the meeting after changing their attire and removing their bindi, bangles and mangal sutra. Otherwise he would have objected then and there. The meeting was started without his presence and he could join only after pressing the matter with concerned officials;

(v) The car for the family of Mr Jadhav and accompanying Indian diplomat was delayed after the meeting so as to give another opportunity to the media to harass them;

(vi) The shoes of the wife of Shri Jadhav were removed before the meeting and she was given slippers to wear to the meeting. The shoes were not returned to her despite her repeated requests after the meeting. The Pakistan authorities have been cautioned against any mischievous intent in this regard through a Note Verbale yesterday.

5. The mother and wife, after their return, conveyed to me that Shri Kulbhushan Jadhav appeared under considerable stress and was speaking in an atmosphere of coercion. As the meeting evolved, it was clear to them that his remarks were tutored by his captors and designed to perpetuate the false narrative of his alleged activities. His appearance also raised questions of his health and well being.

6. The meeting of Mr. Kulbhushan Jadhav with his mother and wife was portrayed by Pakistan as a humanitarian gesture. However, the truth is that both humanity and compassion were missing during the meeting that was arranged on humanitarian and compassionate grounds. There was a serious and gross violation of human rights of the family members of Shri Jadhav and an intimidating atmosphere was created for them during this meeting. There are not enough words to condemn the same.

7. I am fully confident that this entire House and through this House, the people of India, strongly condemns, in one voice, the obnoxious behaviour of Pakistan and affirm their solidarity with the Jadhav family.
From NDTV:

Sushma Swaraj's Statement On Pakistan's Treatment Of Kulbhushan Jadhav's Family
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Green on Green belief based Intra Mohammadden sectarian violence. Suicide bomber belonging to Sunni Mohammadden belief based group, Islamic State, attacks Shia Mohammadden cultural centre in Kabul killing 41:

Islamic State claims attack on Shiite center, 41 dead
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X Posted from the Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan thread.

Green on Green Mohammadden belief based sectarian oppression of fellow Mohammaddens. The sad story of the oppression of minority Ahmadiyya aka Ahmadi sect by fellow Mohammaddens in the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Shunned by Pakistan’s Muslims, Ahmadis Find Refuge in a City of Their Own
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arun wrote:X Posted from the Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan thread.

Green on Green Mohammadden belief based sectarian oppression of fellow Mohammaddens. The sad story of the oppression of minority Ahmadiyya aka Ahmadi sect by fellow Mohammaddens in the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Shunned by Pakistan’s Muslims, Ahmadis Find Refuge in a City of Their Own
Weren't they at the forefront of 2NT demands during partition?
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Something which is not highlighted enough. A huge percentage of the current generation is simply not aware of this and brackets them in the poor persecuted communities bracket along with hindus and sikhs, buying into the MSM viewpoint
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X Posted from the Indian foreign Policy thread.
sunnyP wrote:And we still vote for these terrorist lovers at the UN.
Palestine Envoy Shares Stage With Hafiz Saeed In Pak, India Says Will Take Up Strongly
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And so the Palestinians demonstrate why their being tarred with the appellation of being the original modern day Mohammadden Terrorists was not undeserved by the action of the Palestinian “Ambassador” to the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Waleed Abu Ali, attending a rally organized by the Difah-e-Pakistan Council, an umbrella group of 40 Mohammadden belief based extremist groups in Pakistan, headed by the United Nations Designated Terrorist and one of the Masterminds of 26/11 Mumbai attack, Hafiz Mohammad Saeed.

So much for Palestinian gratitude for India’s support last week at the United Nations General Assembly for the resolution opposing the US move of shifting of their Embassy to Jerusalem.

Another article, this time from Indrani Bagchi at Times of India, on the topic:

Palestine's Pakistan envoy shares dais with Hafiz Saeed, India issues demarche
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On the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday aka Jumma, a deadly reminder of the horrible fate of living as a Non Mohammadden Kaafir Dhimmi in a Mohammadden majority country. Member of the Mohammadden belief based group, Islamic State, carries out gun attack on fellow Abrahamic Christist place of worship and bookshop killing 11 in Egypt:

Gunman kills 11 in attacks on Coptic church, Christian-owned shop in Egypt
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Mohammadden belief based violence in Russia.

The "Islamic State" militia has claimed responsibility for this week's bombing that injured over a dozen people at a St. Petersburg supermarket. Vladimir Putin had already described the blast as "an act of terror." :

'Islamic State' claims St. Petersburg supermarket blast
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X Posted from the Indian Foreign Policy thread.
SSridhar wrote:From ToI,
This isn't the first time the Palestinian ambassador to Pakistan has met with Hafiz Saeed. In August 2014, Waleed Abu Ali had attended the Palestine Unity Caravan organised by the JuD, where Saeed delivered an address denigrating India and Israel for "killing innocent Muslims".
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Saudia Takes A Big Leap Forward In The 21 st Century :D

Good news: Women can now enter Riyadh’s General court without a face veil.
The announcement was made earlier this week that women can now enter the court rooms even if they aren’t covering their faces, this ban was uplifted and women are actually celebrating! And just recently, The Kingdom removed restrictions on women drivers , where in the rest of the world, such things are taken for granted !
Saudi judicial authorities passed this regulation a year ago where it was stated that women without a face veil cannot enter the courtrooms. In a conversation with the Arab News member of Shura Dr Eqbal Darandari said that this regulation has been dismissed in order to provide more comfort and ease for the women coming in the courtrooms but this is just a small victory as according to her the females still have to adhere the strict dress code.
" Veilogy" 101 :D
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Modi-Ji Removes Discriminatory Practice Against Muslim Women

Muslim women can now go for Haj without male guardian: PM Narendra Modi
NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Sunday said his government had removed a discriminatory practice where Muslim women were allowed to travel for Haj only in the company of a 'mahram' or male guardian. Wondering how such "injustice" was being rendered to Muslim women for decades, Modi said, "Our ministry of minority affairs issued corrective measures and we ameliorated this restriction by phasing out a tradition that had been in practice for the past 70 years."
"Today, Muslim women can perform Haj without 'mahram' and I am happy to note that this time about 1,300 Muslim women have applied to perform Haj without mahram," the PM said in his monthly radio address 'Mann Ki Baat'. Hope that there is no hitch from the side of the Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia on this !
"Today, Muslim women can perform Haj without 'mahram' and I am happy to note that this time about 1,300 Muslim women have applied to perform Haj without mahram," the PM said in his monthly radio address 'Mann Ki Baat'.
He said he has suggested to the minority affairs ministry that they should ensure that all women who have applied to travel alone be allowed to perform Haj. "Usually, there is a lottery system for selection of Haj pilgrims but I would like that single women pilgrims should be excluded from this lottery system and they should be given a chance as a special category," Modi said. This measure comes on the heals of the triple talak ban , which in this day and age is unacceptable to anyone !
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Green on Green Intra Mohammadden violence sees teenage suicide bomber belonging to Nigerian Mohammadden belief based group, Boko Haram, blow himself up in a Mosque in Gamboru in Nigeria’s Mohammadden majority Borno state, killing 14 including his (the suicide bombers) own father:

Does committing patricide in a Jihad Martyrdom operation per Mohammadden belief entitle the suicide bomber to none, less or more hoors / houris / virgins / raisins in Jannat?

Teenage Suicide Bomber Kills Father, 13 Others In Borno Mosque
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Some madrassas have produced terrorists: Muslim body chief

NEW DELHI: The chief of a Muslim body on Tuesday said that "madrassas have produced terrorists," reported news agency ANI.

"How many madrassas have produced engineers, doctors, IAS officers? Yes, but some madrassas have produced terrorists," ANI quoted UP Shia Central Waqf Board chairman Wasim Rizvi as saying.

He added that madrassas should be affiliated to education boards like CBSE and ICSE.

He even suggested that madrassas admit non-Muslim students, and make religious education optional.

"I have written to PM Modi and Uttar Pradesh CM in this regard. It will make our country even stronger," he said.

All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (AIMIM) president Asaduddin Owaisi called Rizvi the "biggest joker" for his remarks.

"Wasim Rizvi is the biggest joker, the most opportunistic person. He has sold his soul to RSS. I challenge this buffoon to show one Shia or Sunni or madrassa where such teachings are imparted. If he has proof, then he should go and show it to the home minister," he said.

In Video: Madrassas breed terrorists, claims UP Shia Waqf Board chief

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X Posted from the Terroristan thread.

Fatwa against suicide bombings: Pakistan seeks to build national narrative against terrorism

Above “Fatwa” on the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan is best approached as yet another likely attempt to gull credulous Non-Mohammadden Kaafir Dhimmis with an application of the Mohammadden doctrine of dissimulation, the polite term for lying, aka Taqiyyah / Taqiya, and hence to be taken with a camel-load of salt given that the last time around there was such “Fatwa” regards the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan issued by keepers of the flame of Mohammadden belief in the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the fine print exempted Mohammadden belief inspired acts of suicide bombing in Jammu & Kashmir.
Edict against suicide attacks

May 18, 2005

A group of 58 religious scholars belonging to all schools of thought issued here on Tuesday an edict (fatwa) against suicide attacks. However, they said that the fatwa was applicable only in Pakistan. The edict was issued by Ruet Hilal Committee Chairman Mufti Muneebur Rahman at a press conference where only some TV channels had been invited. …………………………..

The fatwa, Mufti Muneeb said, would apply only in Pakistan, while people waging freedom movements against alien occupation like in Palestine and Kashmir, were exempted of its scope.
From the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Dawn News Paper:

Edict against suicide attacks

Meanwhile when the 2005 Fatwa clearly did not work, what makes the Punjabi military dominated Uniformed Jihadis of the Deep State of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan think the 2018 Fatwa will work?
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A very welcome move towards reducing the high levels of appeasement evident in our country in order to pander to adherents of Mohammaddenism for narrow communal vote bank purposes with tax payer funded jaziya type measures such as subsidising Mohammadden belief based activities like touring Saudi Arabia. Disappointing though that our BJP Government has not gone the whole hog and is ear marking saved tax payer funds for educational empowerment and welfare of girls adhering to Mohammaddenism rather than for educational empowerment and welfare of ALL girls in our country:

Centre ends Haj subsidy as part of policy to 'empower minorities without appeasement'
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arun wrote:A very welcome move towards reducing the high levels of appeasement evident in our country in order to pander to adherents of Mohammaddenism for narrow communal vote bank purposes with tax payer funded jaziya type measures such as subsidising Mohammadden belief based activities like touring Saudi Arabia. Disappointing though that our BJP Government has not gone the whole hog and is ear marking saved tax payer funds for educational empowerment and welfare of girls adhering to Mohammaddenism rather than for educational empowerment and welfare of ALL girls in our country:

Centre ends Haj subsidy as part of policy to 'empower minorities without appeasement'
And the money is going to be redirected to educate muslim girls. The appeasement continues..I see no difference.

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From religion activity to education and talent is no difference for you. Obviously their is political compulsion to totally take away the money and use it somewhere else. it could be easily considered as part of the overall social benefit provided to citizens. It has to go in step wise manner.
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Mihaylo wrote: And the money is going to be redirected to educate muslim girls. The appeasement continues..I see no difference.

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The difference is the first step has been taken. Let's not kill the golden hen today to get all the eggs today. I am sure you dont want this policy to be reversed after another govt comes if this becomes a major issue.
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Education is the biggest threat to absolute religions
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ragupta wrote:From religion activity to education and talent is no difference for you. Obviously their is political compulsion to totally take away the money and use it somewhere else. it could be easily considered as part of the overall social benefit provided to citizens. It has to go in step wise manner.

Well.. do we know how the money will be disbursed ? Will the money be given to the girls family or to specific institutions ? Are there any controls on whether the girl gets - or doesn't - her education in a Madrassah or a government certified education institution ?

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Mihaylo wrote:
ragupta wrote:From religion activity to education and talent is no difference for you. Obviously their is political compulsion to totally take away the money and use it somewhere else. it could be easily considered as part of the overall social benefit provided to citizens. It has to go in step wise manner.

Well.. do we know how the money will be disbursed ? Will the money be given to the girls family or to specific institutions ? Are there any controls on whether the girl gets - or doesn't - her education in a Madrassah or a government certified education institution ?

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...and as somebody tweeted today
"Air India lost, Madrassah won"

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Educating Girls also generally means a later marriage and lesser children, this is accross communities.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rsity.html

You guys are lucky that I don’t know how to build a bomb': Former student, 19, 'set fires at Catholic university in retaliation for US military action in Iraq and Afghanistan'

Tnuza Jamal Hassan, from Minneapolis, charged with arson for allegedly starting four fires at St Catherine's University on Wednesday
Hassan told police she started the fires because she had been reading about the US military destroying schools in Iraq or Afghanistan, criminal complaint says
She also allegedly told police her intent was to hurt people and to burn the Catholic university to the ground
A sprinkler system prevented a dormitory fire from spreading to a day care center housing 33 children
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Trustees lose legal battle for construction of Tableeghi Markaz, mosque in London

LONDON: Trustees of Tableeghi Markaz and Ilyas Mosque in East London have lost a legal battle against Newham Council regarding construction of their Tableeghi Markaz of Abbey Mills Mosque, also known as the London Markaz or Masjid-e-Ilyas, a mosque located in Stratford, accommodating up to 2,500 people.

The high court judge also disallowed the trustees’ plea for an appeal to the judgement reviving chances of demolishing of Masjid-e-Ilyas or Tableeghi Markaz. Judge Walden Smith also ordered to pay £22,207 as expenditure within a period of four weeks.


Trustees have also filed an appeal in the European Union Court of Human Rights where the date of hearing has not been set, sources told this correspondent. The petition was filed by Trustees of Tableeghi Markaz against the Newham Council’s decision to demolish the project of the mosque, that has no planning permission, the Council says. The petition to suspend the demolition injunction for a period of one year was filed on behalf of three trustees of Tableeghi Markaz -- Solat Sikandar, Ibrahim Sheikh and Zulfiqar Ali.

During hearing of the case on 19 January, the court was told that there was currently a mosque with a capacity for 2,500 worshipers and a large parking area on the site. About 15,000 of Tableeghi Jamaat members from different parts of London gather at the mosque every Thursday night for listening “Khutba” and go out for their missionary work.

The counsel for the London Borough of Newham informed the court that it wanted to demolish the mosque, parking lot and other structures which it considers illegal after the trustees’ appeal against secretary of state’s decision to disallow temporary planning permission was rejected by the appeals court in July 2017.

Representative of the trustees informed the court that they were in touch with a group of developers and could sign agreements with it in days if given an opportunity with extension in the current suspension order. He pleaded that their mission was a different organisation where all the decisions are made through consensus (Shoora). He said the trustees wanted to move fast but circumstances were beyond their control. The trustees also informed the court that there would be considerable disturbance in the large number of people in the Muslim community as it catered to the large catchment area in and around Greater London Authority. They informed the court there was a possibility of return of protests previously organised by the Newham Community Alliance.

The judge, however, disregarded the hardship resulting from the enforcement, saying that the current activity at the site was unlawful and it had to stop and the court wanted to hold the trustees to account for legally binding undertakings they had given during the court proceedings in the past. The judge said that there was very little progress on part of trustees to find policy compliance partners to develop the huge property located in the lucrative area of London.

The trustees of Ilyas Masjid or Tableeghi Markaz have already shifted their missionary work from Abbey Mill Mosque to another Tableeghi Markaz near Whitechapel, London.

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British government rejects calls to legitimise up to 85 Sharia courts

Calls to legitimise Sharia law courts in the UK has been ruled out by the government.

Following a review by academics and lawyers, minsters were urged to establish a body which would allow self-regulation by Islamic religious councils.

But the Home Office has ruled that out, citing British laws and traditions.

‘Sharia law has no jurisdiction in the UK and we would not facilitate or endorse regulation, which could present councils as an alternative to UK laws,’ read a Home Office statement.

‘In Britain we have a long tradition of freedom of worship and religious tolerance, where many people of different faiths follow religious codes and practices and benefit from their guidance.

‘The Government has no intention of changing this position.’

The independent panel, chaired by Professor Mona Siddiqui, was set up in 2016 top look into the application of Sharia law in England and Wales.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... man-mosque

German mosque is ordered to stop broadcasting call to prayer after court ruled it violated religious rights of Christian couple who live nearly a mile away-ordered-stop-broadcasting-call-prayer.html
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Oxford Islamic scholar charged with rape in France
PARIS – A prominent Islamic studies scholar has been placed under criminal investigation on two charges of rape in France.
Tariq Ramadan, 55, was questioned by police in Paris earlier this week and has now been remanded into custody on a court’s order, the BBC reported on Saturday. He denies wrongdoing and is suing one of his accusers, a former radical Islamist, for slander.
Ramadan teaches at Oxford University, but took leave of absence after the claims surfaced in October. An examining magistrate will now compile a case, and determine whether Mr Ramadan will stand trial for rape and assault.
His first accuser is Henda Ayari, a former Muslim radical who now heads a secular feminist group.
A few days later another woman, a convert to Islam who has remained anonymous, accused him of raping her in 2009.
Tariq Ramadan, a controversial and influential figure among Muslim scholars, is the grandson of Hassan al-Banna, the Egyptian imam who founded the Muslim Brotherhood in the 1920s. He is a Swiss national and since 2009 has been professor of contemporary Islamic studies at St Antony’s College, Oxford. IMO, he can serve the cause of Malsi, better in The Land Of The Two Holy Mosques . Now with this accusation hanging over his head, Saudia should "take him in", like it has done Zakir Naik :twisted:
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Paki Ayesha "Sexually Harassed " At Haj Site :shock:

Women are speaking out about being sexually harassed during Hajj
While one might think that men would tame their vile urges while performing their religious Islamic duties in the holy city of Mecca, the reality is quite disturbing. Women have recently been speaking out about their experiences with sexual harassment while carrying out tawaf around the Kaaba during their pilgrimage to Mecca.It all started when Pakistani Sabica Khan shared a heartfelt Facebook post (cheap publicity stunt :roll: ) in which she detailed being harassed while performing tawaf, after which women began sharing their own encounters with sexual harassment in Mecca.
Khan started off her post by writing, "I was afraid to share this because it might hurt your religious sentiments." She then narrated how she was sexually harassed several times while performing tawaf.Khan said she first felt a hand on her waist but brushed it off as an innocent mistake. However, the touching persisted and she was very uncomfortable.
"During my sixth tawaf, I suddenly felt something aggressively poking my butt, I froze, unsure of whether it was intentional. I ignored [it] and just kept moving slowly because the crowd was huge," she wrote. Khan explained that she could not turn around because of the huge crowd. "When I reached the Yemeni corner, someone tried to grab and pinch my butt," she added. No male -female segregation during the rituals :roll:
Khan went on to say she felt "so violated" and was "unable to speak out," adding that she remained quiet about the incident fearing that people would not take her seriously."My entire experience at the holy city is overshadowed by this horrible incident," she concluded, urging women to speak up about harassment. Next logical step : Complaint should be lodged with the Saudi Religious Police. That is what they are for :D
She said harassment is most common in the queue leading to the Black Stone, a rock set into the eastern corner of the Kaaba. She explained that she has encountered "pinches and appropriately being touched by male organs at the butt" on multiple occasions.As a result, during her recent visits to Mecca, she has been avoiding the Black Stone and performing tawaf in the outermost perimeter, which is less crowded. Matter should also be brought to the attention of the "Islamic Ideology Council of Pakiland", with CC to Hafiz Suar !
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Falijee wrote:Paki Ayesha "Sexually Harassed " At Haj Site :shock:

Women are speaking out about being sexually harassed during Hajj
While one might think that men would tame their vile urges while performing their religious Islamic duties in the holy city of Mecca, the reality is quite disturbing. Women have recently been speaking out about their experiences with sexual harassment while carrying out tawaf around the Kaaba during their pilgrimage to Mecca.It all started when Pakistani Sabica Khan shared a heartfelt Facebook post (cheap publicity stunt :roll: ) in which she detailed being harassed while performing tawaf, after which women began sharing their own encounters with sexual harassment in Mecca.
She can start the hashtag #MeccaToo
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -plot.html


College student is jailed for 18 years after helping ISIS plot a pressure-cooker bomb attack on New York City
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Denmark To Ban Burkhas !

Denmark poised to ban Islamic full-face veils
'It is incompatible with the values of the Danish society', says country's justice minister
Now wait for the "usual protests" :D
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Canadian PM Bats For Sharia !

Canadian PM: Sharia law is compatible with democracy
Canada continues to support and implement Sharia Law. The American Center for Democracy (ACD) quotes Imam Aasim Rashid of Vancouver, British Columbia, who spoke in October 2017 at Thompson Rivers University, explaining why the Canadian government wants to implement Sharia Law."I’ll tell you who wants to bring Sharia Law," Thompson said then. "The Canadian government wants to bring Sharia Law and this is not a joke. Why? Because Sharia Law is simply the way Muslims are doing things.""The Canadian government wanted the Muslims to be able to regulate their own issues....to solve their problems amongst themselves [according] to Sharia Law, so it is not a burden on the court system which is already so bogged down."The government told us – we would like you to have this system, and we would like to work on these initiatives with you." The Canadian PM has his own domestic compulsions ie courting/ appeasing the "Muslim Vote Bank" to remain in power in the next election !
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told CBC in January 2016 that "Islam is not incompatible with Western secular democracy." :roll:
In a previous article, the ACD exposed a video on Muslim religious leaders' belief that LGBT individuals should be executed.In that article, ACD's Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld noted that "the Islamists make no secret of their views. They promote them in mosques, public lectures, articles and books often distributed free in bookstores and on city street corners."
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Falijee wrote:Oxford Islamic scholar charged with rape in France
He is a Swiss national ...he can serve the cause of Malsi, better in The Land Of The Two Holy Mosques...Saudia should "take him in", like it has done Zakir Naik
Loss of Swiss citizenship: One can loose his Swiss citizenship under various circumstances includiung official decree:
By official decree:
If you have dual nationality but your Swiss citizenship is revoked as a result of conduct deemed to be seriously detrimental to the interests or the reputation of Switzerland.
https://www.ch.ch/en/reinstatement/
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Deoband Fatwa: Allah Pae Bharosa Karo !

Buying life-insurance policy or insuring property un-Islamic: Deoband clerics issue new fatwa
Meerut: The Deoband ulemas or clerics are back at doing what they do best: issuing fatwas. This time, the clerics have issued a fatwa against life insurance policies, stating that buying such a policy or getting property insured was against the tenets of Islam as a Muslim should have faith in Allah, and not in any insurance companies. The fatwa was issued in response to a query posed by a Ghaziabad-based man.
The fatwa read, "Life and death are in the hands of Allah and no insurance company can guarantee a man's longevity. On the contrary, these insurance companies invest the premium paid by the purchaser of the policy and earn interest on the same, later distributing some of it among their clients. And any income earned through interest is haram (forbidden)." "Islamic Banking" is already thriving . When are they coming out with "Islamic Insurance" :twisted:
Prior to this, in a controversial fatwa, Deoband ulemas had asked Muslim families to avoid marrying men/women working in banks as "money earned through interest is illegitimate in the eyes of Islam", the Times of India reported.
Since the start of the new year, the Deoband has issued several fatwas against several practices that it deemed 'un-Islamic', including women wearing body-hugging or designer burqas. Stating that wearing such a burqa was 'haraam' or 'forbidden' in Islam, the fatwa read, "Veil and burqa are supposed to protect a woman from prying eyes. So, a woman wearing a designer burqa or body-hugging outfit is strictly not allowed in Islam." Recently, the ulemas had also criticised a 15-year-old Muslim girl from Meerut, Alia Khan, for reciting slokas from the Bhagwad Gita at a state-government organised contest in Lucknow. There is probably more "demand" for these fatwas in a certain neighbouring country :mrgreen:
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The Hypocrisy Of Malsi Explained Here By A British Based Francophone Medical Doctor

When Islam Breaks Down
Theodore Dalrymple
Spring 2004 ( more relevant today than when posted in another Thread by a BRF member in 2004 !)
My first contact with Islam was in Afghanistan. I had been through Iran overland to get there, but it was in the days of the Shah’s White Revolution, which had given rights to women and had secularized society (with the aid of a little detention, without trial, and torture). In my naive, historicist way, I assumed that secularization was an irreversible process, like the breaking of eggs: that once people had seen the glory of life without compulsory obeisance to the men of God, they would never turn back to them as the sole guides to their lives and politics.
Afghanistan was different, quite clearly a pre-modern society. The vast, barren landscapes in the crystalline air were impossibly romantic, and the people (that is to say the men, for women were not much in evidence) had a wild dignity and nobility. Their mien was aristocratic. Even their hospitality was fierce. They carried more weapons in daily life than the average British commando in wartime.
On the whole I was favorably impressed. I thought that they were freer than we. I thought nothing of such matters as the clash of civilizations, and experienced no desire, and felt no duty, to redeem them from their way of life in the name of any of my own civilization’s ideals.
I was with a group of students, and our appearance in the middle of a country then seldom visited was almost a national event. At any rate, we put on extracts of Romeo and Juliet in the desert, in which I had a small part, and the crown prince of Afghanistan (then still a kingdom) attended. He arrived in Afghanistan’s one modern appurtenance: a silver convertible Mercedes sports car—I was much impressed by that. Little did I think then that lines from the play—those of Juliet’s plea to her mother to abrogate an unwanted marriage to Paris, arranged and forced on her by her father, Capulet—would so uncannily capture the predicament of some of my Muslim patients in Britain more than a third of a century after my visit to Afghanistan, and four centuries after they were written:
How often have I been consulted by young Muslim women patients, driven to despair by enforced marriages to close relatives (usually first cousins) back “home” in India and Pakistan, who have made such an unavailing appeal to their mothers, followed by an attempt at suicide! Britain is now trying to clamp down on these "first cousin marriages "
In fact the situation of Muslim girls in my city is even worse than Juliet’s. Every Muslim girl in my city has heard of the killing of such as she back in Pakistan, on refusal to marry her first cousin, betrothed to her by her father, all unknown to her, in the earliest years of her childhood. The girl is killed because she has impugned family honor by breaking her father’s word, and any halfhearted official inquiry into the death by the Pakistani authorities is easily and cheaply bought off. And even if she is not killed, she is expelled from the household—O sweet my mother, cast me not away!—and regarded by her “community” as virtually a prostitute, fair game for any man who wants her. The so-called honour killing !
One father prevented his daughter, highly intelligent and ambitious to be a journalist, from attending school, precisely to ensure her lack of Westernization and economic independence. He then took her, aged 16, to Pakistan for the traditional forced marriage (silence, or a lack of open objection, amounts to consent in these circumstances, according to Islamic law) to a first cousin whom she disliked from the first and who forced his attentions on her. Granted a visa to come to Britain, as if the marriage were a bona fide one—the British authorities having turned a cowardly blind eye to the real nature of such marriages in order to avoid the charge of racial discrimination—he was violent toward her. Things are still the same in 2018 !
She had two children in quick succession, both of whom were so severely handicapped that they would be bedridden for the rest of their short lives and would require nursing 24 hours a day.
Her family ostracized her, having concluded that a woman whose husband had left her must have been to blame and was the next thing to a whore. She threw herself off a cliff, but was saved by a ledge.
But Islam has no improving or inhibiting effect upon the behavior of my city’s young Muslim men, who, in astonishing numbers, have taken to heroin, a habit almost unknown among their Sikh and Hindu contemporaries. The young Muslims not only take heroin but deal in it, and have adopted all the criminality attendant on the trade. What I think these young Muslim prisoners demonstrate is that the rigidity of the traditional code by which their parents live, with its universalist pretensions and emphasis on outward conformity to them, is all or nothing; when it dissolves, it dissolves completely and leaves nothing in its place. The young Muslims then have little defense against the egotistical licentiousness they see about them and that they all too understandably take to be the summum bonum of Western life.Observing this, of course, there are among Muslim youth a tiny minority who reject this absorption into the white lumpenproletariat and turn militant or fundamentalist. It is their perhaps natural, or at least understandable, reaction to the failure of our society, kowtowing to absurd and dishonest multiculturalist pieties, to induct them into the best of Western culture: into that spirit of free inquiry and personal freedom that has so transformed the life chances of every person in the world, whether he knows it or not.Islam in the modern world is weak and brittle, not strong: that accounts for its so frequent shrillness. The Shah will, sooner or later, triumph over the Ayatollah in Iran, because human nature decrees it, though meanwhile millions of lives will have been ruined and impoverished. The Iranian refugees who have flooded into the West are fleeing Islam, not seeking to extend its dominion, as I know from speaking to many in my city. To be sure, fundamentalist Islam will be very dangerous for some time to come, and all of us, after all, live only in the short term; but ultimately the fate of the Church of England awaits it. Its melancholy, withdrawing roar may well (unlike that of the Church of England) be not just long but bloody, but withdraw it will. The fanatics and the bombers do not represent a resurgence of unreformed, fundamentalist Islam, but its death rattle. Long article, interesting details. Muslims want the best of the western world, materially and still cling to Malsi which, according to the author is not compatible with modern times. Article has to be read in full !
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Adherent of Mohammaddenism, one Dr. Selim Ali of the Islamic Cultural Centre of Ireland, demands that fellow Abrahamic Kaafir Dhimmi Christists of Catholic sectarian variant who constitute Irelands native and majority population submit and allow non-native immigrants to follow the cruel imported Mohammadden belief sanctified act of Female Genital Mutilation (FGM):

Female circumcision 'should be allowed by law' - member of Ireland's Islamic Cultural Centre
Kathy Armstrong

February 9 2018 11:20 AM

Female circumcision "has been described in a horrible way" and should be considered in certain circumstances, a member of the Islamic Cultural Centre of Ireland has said.

Dr Ali Selim called female circumcision "an inherited practice" and said parents should be allowed to have it carried out on their daughter if a doctor says it's necessary.

He also said that you "cannot control people" and people will travel overseas for the procedure.

Female circumcision, also known as female genital mutilation (FGM), is defined as the partial of total destruction of female genitalia for non-medical reasons and was made illegal here in 2012.

FGM has been carried out on an estimated 200 million girls around the world, including nearly 6,000 in Ireland.

Despite the World Health Organisation stating that "the procedure has no health benefits for girls and women", Dr Selim claims it should be allowed in some instances.

Speaking on Prime Time on RTE One last night, he explained: "I am not an advocate of female genital mutilation, but of female circumcision.

"If we see female circumcision in the same way as male circumcision, it might be needed for one person and not another, it has to be determined by a doctor and practiced in a safe, medical environment.

"It's the same medical reasons that justify male circumcision, it's not an obligation but it should be allowed by law if needed and a medical doctor should be able to decide if it's needed."

Dr Selim, who is an Arabic lecturer at Trinity College, said he feels that female circumcision has been harshly portayed.

"It has been described in a horrible way, it's always described as 'barbaric' and we always hear the term mutilation, it is portrayed as a dark skin practice, or something that belongs in the Dark Ages.


"In Europe people want to be cool so you have to show a revolutionary attitude, it's an inherited practice.

"If it's inherited it doesn't have to be rejected, it has to be considered and not rejected just because it's inherited," he said.

Dr Selim also claimed there is little that can be done to stop people accessing female circumcision abroad.

"You can't control people, it's against the law to practise abortion but people just cross the border and come back.

"I would say to anyone who wants to bring their daughter overseas for circumcision to ask their doctor, a medical doctor has to say that they need it," he said.

He was speaking after a worldwide social media campaign against FGM was launched in Dublin on Tuesday.

Activists are calling for zero tolerance towards FGM and are asking people to use show their support on social media using the hashtag #MeTooFGM

GFM survivor Ifrah Ahmed, an Irish citizen who was born in Somalia, helped to organise the launch and said that she will fight to have it banned worldwide.

She said: "Today 200 million women worldwide are living with the consequences of female genital mutilation and 100 million are at risk of being circumcised.

"It is amazing really."
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The practise of bombing a place of significance on a day of significance to followers of Mohammadden belief by fellow adherents of Mohammaddenism continues unabated. This Mohammadden “Sabbath” of Friday aka Jumma, a Green on Green Intra Mohammadden act of bloodletting sees Mosque bombed in Benghazi in Libya killing 2 and wounding 143:

2 killed, 143 wounded as explosion hits mosque in Libya's Benghazi
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Joh Moulvibazar mein G**ndu hai woh Melbourne mein bhi G**ndu hai.

Momin female from Bangladesh by name of Momena Shoma stabs her Kaafir Dhimmi landlord Roger Singaravelu in an attack “inspired” by Mohammadden belief motivated group Islamic State aka ISIS while halal-ly and piously attired in the Mohammadden belief mandated garment for women, the Burqa aka Burka:

A sleeping father was unaware he had been stabbed in the neck until he woke in pain following an alleged 'ISIS-inspired attack' in Melbourne.

Roger Singaravelu, a dedicated nurse, was allegedly stabbed by an international student wearing a bu rqa at his home in Mill Park, north-east of Melbourne’s CBD, about 4.25pm yesterday. ……………..

The Bangladeshi suspect, identified as Momena Shoma, who recently moved to Australia and held a student visa, was renting a room at Mr Singaravelu's home and was arrested at the scene over the stabbing. ……………………
From here:

Sleeping father stabbed in 'Islamic State-inspired attack'
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