Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014

ashishvikas · Post by **ashishvikas** » 15 Jan 2018 19:09

#Update | Defense Minister @nsitharaman will fly a sortie in the Sukhoi 30 MKI fighter aircraft on 17th Jan at Air Force Station in Jodhpur to gauge & review the operational preparedness & combat capabilities of the armed forces

https://twitter.com/ETDefence/status/952890578844377090

krishna_krishna · Post by **krishna_krishna** » 19 Jan 2018 05:22

One real world example of "MADE IN INDIA" , MRF deliver for su30 tyres and only Indian company to do so will save country 30%-40% less on each tyre :

http://www.thehindu.com/business/Indust ... 906022.ece

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 19 Jan 2018 08:16

Ironically those Made in India tyres were tested/validated in China.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 19 Jan 2018 10:37

krishna_krishna wrote:One real world example of "MADE IN INDIA" , MRF deliver for su30 tyres and only Indian company to do so will save country 30%-40% less on each tyre :

http://www.thehindu.com/business/Indust ... 906022.ece

Actually it is saving the country 100% in Foreign Exchange and Building a knowledge base in India with production , factories while employing people and then in turn taxes on it. SO the decision probably saves 150% in Forex, not just the cost differential.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 19 Jan 2018 11:14

Indian Defense Minister Nirmala Sitharaman flew a Su-30MKI fighter

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 19 Jan 2018 11:16

Raksha Mantri Nirmala Sitharaman Flies Sukhoi 30MKI Fighter Jet

Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman after fly a sortie in Sukhoi 30 MKI at Jodhpur

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 19 Jan 2018 12:24

All good, but I hope she follows in the footsteps of Singapore Defence minister and flies in the LCA Tejas too.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 22 Jan 2018 18:07

Myanmar will acquire six Su-30 fighters

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3061457.html

Hopefully HAL can provide MRO service to them and train their pilots

nits · Post by **nits** » 22 Jan 2018 18:41

ashishvikas wrote:#Update | Defense Minister @nsitharaman will fly a sortie in the Sukhoi 30 MKI fighter aircraft on 17th Jan at Air Force Station in Jodhpur to gauge & review the operational preparedness & combat capabilities of the armed forces

https://twitter.com/ETDefence/status/952890578844377090

So wish she had flown in LCA Trainer 2 seater version; but still good start

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 23 Jan 2018 00:06

^^^^
It’s not the 2-seats, it’s the 2 engines that increases the margin of safety.

Prithwiraj · Post by **Prithwiraj** » 23 Jan 2018 00:35

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chola · Post by **chola** » 23 Jan 2018 15:55

eklavya wrote:^^^^
It’s not the 2-seats, it’s the 2 engines that increases the margin of safety.

Sir, if we had flown the Singapore DM then safety is not a concern on the Tejas irregardless of number of engines.

JTull · Post by **JTull** » 23 Jan 2018 17:20

Seems, this single-engine theory is put out only to diss a desi fighter. The noose put on by IN has completely crippled work on Naval-LCA. Perhaps some could learn from ACM taking flight in 'obsolete' Mig-21s. Surely, he's more valuable than a politico.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 13 Mar 2018 06:59

https://twitter.com/kamallochan1982/sta ... 8106007552 ---> Indian Air Force Sukhoi jets over Dubai. Good to see India's defence forces getting media savvy. Flypasts should also be a regular feature in cities all over India.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 13 Mar 2018 07:03

^^^^

Larger (Wallpaper) sized image of the picture above. Only posting link (for folks who have slow download speeds...are there any left?), so you can right click and download. Just gorgeous!!!!!

https://i.redd.it/lbnyul55mrk01.jpg

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Mar 2018 07:09

Beautiful thanks - I was looking for a new wallpaper - bored of the old one

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 13 Mar 2018 08:32

Radome color seems darker no? Is this new or really old?

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 13 Mar 2018 18:45

From sometime in 2016 I believe, when Rambhas were on their return journey back to India from an international air exercise. They were flying with the UAEAF from Al Dhafra air base near Abu Dhabi.

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 14 Mar 2018 03:24

That stunning pic is by Katsuhiko Tokunaga, a famous aviation photographer. He was at Aero India 2017 and ADA/NFTC/IAF whoever missed out on the chance of giving him a ride onboard the twin seater Tejas and getting some stunners. Some defence journo mentioned how he was watching from the sidelines.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 14 Mar 2018 03:44

Thanks Kartik for identifying the photographer....

Bio on Katsuhiko Tokunaga ---> http://nps.nikonimaging.com/members/katsuhiko_tokunaga/

The eye of Katsu Tokunaga - Dassault Aviation

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 14 Mar 2018 04:31

I really wish the MoD, ADA and the guys who can, bring him in to produce a 30 minute video on the Tejas. It will be a visual delight and shots could be used for PR campaigns that are so important for an export push.

Indranil · Post by **Indranil** » 14 Mar 2018 06:06

He took this one. His pictures, typically don't have effects etc. Just clean sharp pictures.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 14 Mar 2018 10:06

Kartik wrote:I really wish the MoD, ADA and the guys who can, bring him in to produce a 30 minute video on the Tejas. It will be a visual delight and shots could be used for PR campaigns that are so important for an export push.

Some of us aren't too bad ourselves you know

We just need a bit of access and patronage to grow..

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 14 Mar 2018 11:58

Prasad wrote:
Kartik wrote:I really wish the MoD, ADA and the guys who can, bring him in to produce a 30 minute video on the Tejas. It will be a visual delight and shots could be used for PR campaigns that are so important for an export push.
Some of us aren't too bad ourselves you know We just need a bit of access and patronage to grow..

+101
And we would be more than happy to do all of it for free. Even with investing own time and money.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 26 Mar 2018 12:11

IAF chief says J-20 is not a challange and Su-30 radar can detect it from far off

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 26 Mar 2018 14:58

^^

Now we will see 4-5 psy ops articles from Chinese propaganda machinery in rebuttal...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 26 Mar 2018 15:55

even in a civil aviation airport like BIAL, some once a quarter runway photo days would be good, to help us get better and teach our kids .... like in nellis and many airshows they get to stand near the runway and click as much as they want....

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 13 Apr 2018 11:28

Credit to TR1 at keypubs....note the new range on the bars, very nice, wonder if they snuck in the irbis' high powered twt...no wonder the iaf is not in any hurry to upgrade this sbeast

https://image.ibb.co/bTQ5bn/137037342106246769.jpg

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 13 Apr 2018 12:04

^^No RCS mentioned for the range, but anyways the numbers are very high.

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 13 Apr 2018 21:31

ArjunPandit wrote:^^No RCS mentioned for the range, but anyways the numbers are very high.

Russkis almost never do but the norm is 3 msq for fighter sized targets...mig 21 iirc.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 13 Apr 2018 21:46

^^Thx. This is huge, for a loaded F16, MKI will a good headstart and negating the AIM-9 advantage of mard-e-momins

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 28 Apr 2018 15:17

The Su-35 may be the best jet-age dogfighter ever made and a capable missile delivery platform—but whether that will suffice for an air-superiority fighter in the era of stealth technology remains to be seen.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-bu ... ?page=show

As the U.S. Air Force would have it, stealth fighters will be able to unleash a hail of missiles up to one hundred miles away without the enemy having any way to return fire until they close to a (short) distance, where visual and IR scanning come into play. Proponents of the Russian fighter argue that it will be able to rely upon ground-based low-bandwidth radars, and on-board IRST sensors and PESA radar, to detect stealth planes. Keep in mind, however, that the former two technologies are imprecise and can’t be used to target weapons in most cases.

Both parties obviously have huge economic and political incentives to advance their claims. While it is worthwhile examining the technical merits of these schools of thought in detail, the question will likely only be resolved by testing under combat conditions. Furthermore, other factors such as supporting assets, mission profile, pilot training and numbers play a large a role in determining the outcomes of aerial engagements.

It is a good read for AMCA and 5th gen thread needs too

nam · Post by **nam** » 28 Apr 2018 17:27

Stealth does not kill other jets, missiles do.

If your jammer and ew are top notch and able to fool aim120, your opponent having f22 is of no concern.

Indranil · Post by **Indranil** » 29 Apr 2018 02:39

Austin wrote:IAF chief says J-20 is not a challange and Su-30 radar can detect it from far off

That was a dismissive tone by the IAF chief. "Yeh jo aapka Su-30 ka radar hai nai, woh hi kai km per pick up kar lega usko", the obvious part was "land-based radars ki toh baat hi chor de".

Haridas · Post by **Haridas** » 29 Apr 2018 09:39

Indranil wrote:That was a dismissive tone by the IAF chief. "Yeh jo aapka Su-30 ka radar hai nai, woh hi kai km per pick up kar lega usko", the obvious part was "land-based radars ki toh baat hi chor de".

ACM is not very eloquent in his speech. Not that is a prerequisite, but by the time one becomes chief it gets refined.

g.chaks · Post by **g.chaks** » 29 Apr 2018 10:05

Indranil wrote:
Austin wrote:IAF chief says J-20 is not a challange and Su-30 radar can detect it from far off

That was a dismissive tone by the IAF chief. "Yeh jo aapka Su-30 ka radar hai nai, woh hi kai km per pick up kar lega usko", the obvious part was "land-based radars ki toh baat hi chor de".

A small nitpick...the Chief was referring to 230 SU and not Su30

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 29 Apr 2018 11:06

JayS wrote:^^

Now we will see 4-5 psy ops articles from Chinese propaganda machinery in rebuttal...

A wannabe superpower which can only fight through global times and not on actual battlefield.

Indranil · Post by **Indranil** » 29 Apr 2018 11:31

Haridas wrote:
Indranil wrote:That was a dismissive tone by the IAF chief. "Yeh jo aapka Su-30 ka radar hai nai, woh hi kai km per pick up kar lega usko", the obvious part was "land-based radars ki toh baat hi chor de".
ACM is not very eloquent in his speech. Not that is a prerequisite, but by the time one becomes chief it gets refined.

Did Haridas ji. Did not get your drift here. I was not commenting oh his eloquence, but the disdain with which he said it.

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 29 Apr 2018 22:03

ArjunPandit wrote:^^Thx. This is huge, for a loaded F16, MKI will a good headstart and negating the AIM-9 advantage of mard-e-momins

I'm not sure they have any SRM advantage. IIRC they don't have the AIM9X, which could have been a greater threat.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 29 Apr 2018 22:26

Cain Marko wrote:
ArjunPandit wrote:^^Thx. This is huge, for a loaded F16, MKI will a good headstart and negating the AIM-9 advantage of mard-e-momins
I'm not sure they have any SRM advantage. IIRC they don't have the AIM9X, which could have been a greater threat.

Pakis were sold AIM 9 to help them fight war on terror.