Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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Well allowing khalistanis to organize event is one way to deal with India.
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Karthik S wrote:Well allowing khalistanis to organize event is one way to deal with India.
Only a matter of time before the Empty-stanis realize their beloved Stockholm Syndrome-affected hosts (after all the vast majority of those dead in AI182 were Canadian and British) no longer have the economic or geopolitical power to harm India.
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^^well using these protests as a leverage against India is like stage 0.5 of being paki. Of course pakis are at stage 99999 level of this disease. They can go wipe their faces, but the preachings dont work against us like they did in 90s. Good for them that they havent realized it now.
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A black man from birmingham arrested outside westminster for mowing down pedestrians in a car
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From the v. clip he looked a darkie.Let's wait for his details.
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JohnTitor wrote:What really needs to be done is impose restrictions on khalistani supporters and their families in India. Simple, effective and to the point. But of course none of it will happen because India is afraid of being seen as "authoritarian".
Why go for innocent sikhs even if they have become pawns of the brishit? I clearly said that any body with fUK passport but with OCI are exempt. If the brishit wants to prove that they are the mythical aryans to escape the strip search, so be it - as long as they pay for Indian case workers to go to fUK and identify their antecedents.
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disha wrote:pawns of the brishit? I clearly said that any body with fUK passport but with OCI are exempt. If the brishit wants to prove that they are the mythical aryans to escape the strip search, so be it - as long as they pay for Indian case workers to go to fUK and identify their antecedents.
Being a useful idiot didn't excuse you from having to pay the consequences.

Using a canon to kill a mosquito..

Target those who are involved, their families and you will start to see results. In any case, the whole thing is moot because India doesn't have the mochos to stamp it's authority. The US or even the UK would have done what was needed.
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Last edited by Rahul M on 15 Aug 2018 17:51, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: meaningless OT post deleted
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JT, what you are suggesting even US or UK wouldn't have done. AFAIK, only Russians did it that with terrorists. No system will allow targeting families because of actions of family members.
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Monitoring of family members of suspected terrorists (which is what khalistani are) is pretty common. At least they can be done, no?
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what is the point of this context-less image without any caption or description ??
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Please read the caption on the placard.
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I did, it is completely irrelevant to India. post deleted. next such OT post will attract warnings.
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I was hoping not to have to belabour the obvious. When the usual cast of characters demonstrates for Khalistan, a counter protest singing patriotic songs only serves to legitimise them.

Indians definitely need to develop succinct communication skills. Not everything requires a garrulous explication.
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it was obvious in your own mind perhaps, not to the rest of us. no one could have guessed that you were trying to make an obtuse (to us) point about khalistan from a random image of anti-racism protesters.
next time, please do provide the explanation for the sake of people incapable of grasping such 'subtlety'.
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Point taken in good grace.
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rsingh wrote:^^^
Sir UK Gov is pinching India and She has to feel the pain. Sardar jis are just pawns. Close all British council dera's and stop inviting royal thugs. Things will be ok within months.
No need to close them. British council funding is mainly derived from the EU. Brexit will lead to closures anyway.

UQ is ready for a 3rd party- no not the lib dems or greens or UKIP.

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I don't know why we have to go to these lengths - Vijay Mallya's cell to have TV, toilet, washing area and sunlight: CBI submits video in UK court
"The UK court wanted to see if Indian jails are hygienic. We have given them proof of the hygiene level and medical facilities available in jail. In fact, the barrack in which Mallya would be lodged is east-facing so it has lot of sunlight too," NDTV quoted a senior level official as saying.
While at the same time ...
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... s-watchdog
One of Britain’s oldest jails is overcrowded, crumbling and porous to drugs, weapons and mobile phones, a watchdog has warned.
Monitors at HMP Pentonville found old windows had not been replaced, vermin was rife and prisoners went weeks without exercise in the fresh air.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ing-crisis
Clarke and his inspectors discovered widespread drug use, high levels of violence and filthy conditions with blood and rat droppings on the floors and walls.
I couldn't get prison violence stats comparison on UK vs US vs India, but given the Govt proposal to give some sort of VIP treatment to Mallya, maybe he's better of in UK prison ?
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This is needed. If putting up some paint and extra light can set a precedent, then future fugitives cannot use this excuse.

Once the Joker is here, what is the guarantee he will go the same prison.

What do we loose, some extra paint.
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^ Mallaya looks all set to start a new chapter in his life with a new set of .....um... "Partners".
Will they be bringing out a 2019 Kingfisher Calendar as well?
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Labour front- bencher Khalid Mahmood , shadow asst. For.Min. used his insurance from his MP's fund to pay to keep his estranged aide and former lover who is Jewish from spilling the beans.No idea from which part of the sub- continent he comes from.UK media.
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Mallya hs tried to secure his assets by transferring property and some money as gifts to his son
He has boasted the uk courts cannot touch one piece of his english manor as its owned by his son now

We should issue notices and case against his son and claw back whatever was transferred
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Philip wrote:Labour front- bencher Khalid Mahmood , shadow asst. For.Min. used his insurance from his MP's fund to pay to keep his estranged aide and former lover who is Jewish from spilling the beans.No idea from which part of the sub- continent he comes from.UK media.
Philip Ji :

Khalid Mahmood - Born : 13 July 1961 (age 57) - Pakistani Occupied Kashmir

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:lol:
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Singha wrote:Mallya hs tried to secure his assets by transferring property and some money as gifts to his son
He has boasted the uk courts cannot touch one piece of his english manor as its owned by his son now

We should issue notices and case against his son and claw back whatever was transferred
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Mallya is a sharpie.he appears to have planned this all along,criminal intent.I don't know if hi son can be roped into the case if he hsn't also borrowed from the banks.

Mrs.T.,May not Thatchre has announced a Brexit deal...not with the EU but with some piddly little African economies (no offence to them though),
as she tries desperately to prevent a rebellion within her own party dumping her out before Christmas.

"So that’s Lesotho, Swaziland, Namibia, Botswana, South Africa and Mozambique, or 0.7 per cent of British exports, accounted for... Just the rest of the world to go..." :rotfl:
Brexit: Theresa May claims trade deal success in Africa – but critics say it's a 'rollover' of existing EU agreement
'They’re reduced to celebrating an agreement to roll over a fraction of the existing trade deals that we already benefit from as EU members'

Rob Merrick
Theresa May has come under fire for claiming to have secured the UK’s first post-Brexit trade deal as it is merely a “rollover” of an existing EU agreement.

Critics said the announcement – to replicate a deal with six southern African nations – fell far short of boasts, before the referendum, of a new free trade area much larger than the EU.

They also pointed out that it came amid doubts about whether the UK will be able to retain deals the EU has struck recently with Canada and Japan – which are far bigger economies.

Last year, Britain exported £2.4bn worth of goods to the six African countries included in Ms May’s deal - just 0.7 per cent of the value of its exports to the EU and the rest of the world combined, which were worth £339bn.

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MPs could be denied analysis of economic harm from no-deal Brexit
The government has acknowledged the risk of a “loss of trade” after Brexit with such countries, admitting they could demand more favourable terms to agree a rollover with the UK.

Speaking in Cape Town, the prime minister announced an additional £4bn of UK investment in African economies, with the hope of further match investment from the private sector to come.

And she said: “That’s why I’m delighted that we will today confirm plans to carry over the European Union’s Economic Partnership Agreement with the Southern African Customs Union (Sacu) and Mozambique once the EU’s deal no longer applies to the UK.

“As a prime minister who believes both in free markets and in nations and businesses acting in line with well-established rules and principles of conduct, I want to demonstrate to young Africans that their brightest future lies in a free and thriving private sector.”

Countries in the Sacu agreement include Botswana, Lesotho, Namibia, South Africa and Swaziland, with Mozambique also included in the pact with the EU that the UK will take on.

Of those countries, South Africa was Britain’s largest trade partner in 2017, buying £2.4bn worth of exports, followed by Namibia (£39m), Botswana (£24m) and Mozambique (£11m). Lesotho and Swaziland purchased less than a million pounds worth of exported goods from Britain each.

Brexit talks: Top issues facing UK on leaving EU
Customs union
Northern Ireland-Irish border
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But Tom Brake, the Liberal Democrat Brexit spokesman, said: “Theresa May is clearly delusional.
“Simply replicating deals already struck by the EU proves the Tories are in such a mess that their aspirations reach no higher than the status quo.”


And Gareth Thomas, a Labour supporter of the People’s Vote campaign for a fresh Brexit referendum, said: “Two years ago, Brexiters were promising a new free-trade area ‘10 times’ the size of the EU.

“Now they’re reduced to celebrating an agreement to roll over a fraction of the existing trade deals that we already benefit from as EU members.”
Mr Thomas said that Brexit “threatens to tear up” fresh EU deals “like the recent one with Japan”.

Lord Boateng, a Labour peer who is chair of the Africa Enterprise Challenge Fund, also warned the UK’s trade drive had “a lot of catching up to do” with the likes of China, France, India and Germany.


Britain hopes to roll over all of the EU’s current trade deals, with Chile, Israel, Egypt, Mexico, Russia, South Korea, Switzerland and Turkey among others.

However, the government was forced to drop a claim that the process was assured, while maintaining that “all partner countries have agreed to work with us to ensure continuity”.

READ MORE
‘Continuous’ Brexit talks not actually happening despite UK–EU pledge
Donald Trump’s farcical deal with Mexico is a lesson for Brexit
EU citizens make first applications to remain in UK after Brexit
Macron rejects May’s plea for help to rescue her Brexit plan

Separating agricultural quotas is believed to be a key controversy, some countries rejecting a plan by the EU and the UK to divide the allocations between them, after the UK’s departure.

The Federation of Small Businesses (FSB) said strong trade ties with Africa will be crucial after Brexit, with 35 per cent of its exporting members sending their goods to Africa.

Mike Cherry, its national chairman, said: “Export vouchers should be made available to small businesses, as this can pave the way to new export deals.

“Our own figures have shown that members are increasingly looking at the emerging markets and it’s important that this continues in the coming years.”
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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/29/uk/h ... index.html

kids more at risk of hunger during summer hols
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Spreading assets across family members is a pretty standard wealth preservation move among the moneyed types. However, this only applies to his property in UK. What one needs to understand is that right to property laws in UK and India are not alike. UK provides significantly more safeguards to personal property than India does. In fact, India has no fundamental right to property; original safeguards were removed, and the law reads "no person shall be deprived of his property save by authority of law". That's the basis for the Fugitive Economic Offenders act - the Constitution provides for legislative power to deprive someone of property without compensation punitively.

Mallya was due in FMLA court on August 27. He didn't appear. Some of his family filed motions seeking documentation from the prosecuction, and the next hearing is Sept 3. At this point, all of Mallya's Indian properties will likely be confiscated and sold off by creditors. His UK properties will partially be sold off by his creditor. The rest in his family's name, he keeps. Probably he'll wait until his ILR becomes eligible for citizenship and take up UK citizenship. That's what Nadeem did.
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He'll ask for political asylum citing a vendetta againsg him! :rotfl:
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Philip wrote:He'll ask for political asylum citing a vendetta againsg him! :rotfl:
Most likely but it might be tough going this time for mallya..

Some other developements in brexit drama

https://www.ft.com/content/f75ad220-ab9 ... de165fa619
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https://beautypageants.indiatimes.com/m ... 643974.cms
She once quoted “Everyone is beautiful in their own way, regardless of weight, race, colour or shape”. In the past, quite a handful of women have worn a hijab during sub-contests or qualifying rounds, but Sara is the first woman evert to wear it for the finale.
One thing i like about these guys is sticking to their tradition. Parda is backward, but hijab is liberation
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Fury over UK's 'unjustifiable' £98m foreign aid injection for India
Tory MP David Davies says India does not "want or need" UK aid and that "in effect we are sponsoring an Indian moon launch".
It comes despite India spending £95.4m on the lunar probe, Chandrayaan-2, which is set to launch in January.
Meanwhile, India gives away more in foreign aid than it receives - in 2015/16 it took in £254m but gave away £912m.
There is no suggestion that India, reportedly home to 230 million people who live in poverty, will use aid from the UK directly for its space programme.
https://news.sky.com/story/fury-over-uk ... a-11489332
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Seriously, it's time to stop aid incoming from Britain.For one, it's peanuts and two, the meanspiritedness of some Brit politicos is disgusting.If we could say no to well-meaning relief aid for Kerala, a polite " return to sender" to the UK would be quite in order.

A recent UK media report said that there is a dramatic increase in Brits availing the "food bank", where poor Brits go to food centres and receive boxes of tinned food, like baked beans, sardines, corned beef, soup packets,milk powder,etc. for their families since they can't afford to buy food from the supermarkets.

I propose that the GOI and wealthy members of the large-hearted Indian community in the UK, establish food aid centres for poor Brits.They need the aid! I'm told that almost all our temples and gurdwaras in the UK offer food to any visitor.I am sure that booze baron one V.Mallya whose beery income has gone rather flat can still afford to sponsor at least one such centre, since he's been able to pay such huge legal costs! Lalit Modi and the "sparkling" Modi too can get good PR by such a meritoriuos act which may bring a tear to the eyes of the judges deciding whether to let them stay in Blighty or deport them to Mother India and the plush accomodation being prepared for them at the Arthur Rd. resort, courtesy the GOI!
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I believe this is the amount they disburse through their "NGO"s and churches. even if GoI says no to the money, Britain will insist on it since it is the only legal way for them to influence people.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45374442
Rocket woman: How to cook curry and get a spacecraft into Mars orbit
( BAd teeth rishit will remain shit)
Can you guide a spacecraft into orbit around Mars and cook for eight people morning and night? Yes, if you get up at 5am, and your name is BP Dakshayani. Here the former head of flight dynamics and space navigation for the Indian space agency explains how she did it - and the housework too.
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souravB wrote:I believe this is the amount they disburse through their "NGO"s and churches. even if GoI says no to the money, Britain will insist on it since it is the only legal way for them to influence people.
Advertise this factoid in those britshit newspapers that harp on this non-existent aid.

India to invest over £1 billion in UK, safeguard over 5,500 jobs
India and Britain today announced a new partnership under, which India will invest more than £1 billion in the UK that will create or safeguard 5,750 British jobs, post-Brexit.
https://www.domain-b.com/economy/trade/ ... guard.html
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I'm not an advocate of justifying the role of aid from UK. All that money is ours, looted by them, being returned. It's not aid as much as socially engineered reparations. On an online forum where the 'is this how they use our aid ??' messages were posted, I recently pointed out that people have been whining about the matter for about as long as the WWW existed, and yet every successive British government keeps diligently sending the cash over, and politely inquired if they understood the meaning of the term c*ckold.
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souravB wrote:I believe this is the amount they disburse through their "NGO"s and churches. even if GoI says no to the money, Britain will insist on it since it is the only legal way for them to influence people.
The libraries run by the British Council in major Indian cities are funded from some of this aid.
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