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And SCOTUS judges must answer the question that is asked of them by the elected representatives (Senators) of the citizenry. And if they do not like their elected representatives, throw them out. But till that time, a nominee must answer the question. Now if the question is out of bounds, the Chairman can ask the nominee to not answer the question or the nominee can tell the Senator that he chooses not to answer the question because it is inappropriate. But to throw a tantrum - like he is doing - is unbecoming of a judge, SCOTUS or otherwise.

He is not just an ordinary witness before a Senate Committee. He is a SCOTUS nominee and must display behaviour that meets the standards of the court that he is aspiring to be a part of. Unlike the other two branches of govt - the Executive and the Legislative - the Judiciary is non-partisan or at least give the appearance of it. He failed miserably on that account. And if he cannot control his emotions and be non-partisan, then he is unfit to be a judge.

Even Robert Bork - whom BK referenced in his opening speech, borking - behaved better than him!
UlanBatori wrote:If they deny him the job for that, well... their loss. He will be in the Fed Circuit when their flunkies come up b4 him...
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:lol: UB!!!

Nice try, but he does not have the option of ruling them out of order. He is here for an interview and it is his job to answer the questions. The powers lies in the hands of the Senate Judiciary Committee and which voted to advance his nomination 11-10 (along party lines) for a closure vote on the Senate.

But the very fact that he failed that interview miserably, gave Senator Jeff Flake (a Republican and not a Donkey!) enough pause to ask for a FBI investigation (which will turn up nothing). He will end up on the court.

Now to the question of whether he had intimate relations with a underage individual. Rather than throw a tantrum, he could have answered the question diplomatically. Rather, he adopted an attitude of "The Democrats are out to kill me and ruin my good name, so I will fight back tooth and nail." That kind of behaviour is not appropriate for a judge of any court and especially that of a SCOTUS nominee. Kindergarten children behave better than him.

He came across as a partisan hack and emotionally unstable. The Democrats may have shot themselves in the foot, but BK ruined his own reputation in that hearing. As I said earlier, even the present crop of SCOTUS judges are likely rolling their eyes at this man's demeanour. And in that the Democrats may have achieved what they wanted to show to the American People - this is your future SCOTUS judge. Enjoy! :)
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https://twitter.com/ImAndrewMarcus/stat ... 3145740288
Fake rape lawyer Debra Katz is seen wearing radical socialist power fist t-shirt while calling for resistance against the Presidency.

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Rakeshji,
Esteemed Mongolianji,

Let's not get fooled by any of this. Dr. Ford, BK, and senators have all been heavily coached for their performances, including that of the angry outbursts and gentle-innocent-kind victim are all nautankis. They have done this to play to their constituents in heavily Democratic or Republican districts. Dr. Ford's natak was to get the #MeToo sympathizers, women and BK's outburst was to influence voters in mid-west states. They played to their respective galleries.

Speaking to my SHQ this morning, she was more concerned about Nana Patekar and Tanushree Dutta. SHQ was not happy about local goondas intimidating Dutta and vandalizing her car. She could care less about BK and other goras as they deserve each other.
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Lots of people watching the proceedings have said how the circus was being performed by the republicans (news and twitter) and similarly the right leaning people are exactly the opposite - and our dhaga resident angry men are living up to the stereotypes
Where is the room for civilised debate? This is what is so sad about the current political situation
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Lalmohan wrote:Lots of people watching the proceedings have said how the circus was being performed by the republicans (news and twitter) and similarly the right leaning people are exactly the opposite - and our dhaga resident angry men are living up to the stereotypes
Where is the room for civilised debate? This is what is so sad about the current political situation
Who's angry? I'm enjoying the tamasha. Only angry people are those pretending to be intellectuals like A. Roy.
Trump is a racist. We all knew that, but need him to upset the current world order. Not everything will be to our liking, but the net sum is what's important.

Anyway, you're in Londonistan, so why should you care one way or another?
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In this entire tamasha, we missed that Trump signed the continuing resolution bill for spending through Dec. 8th.
https://www.govexec.com/management/2018 ... er/151657/

And for FY2019, the US DoS spending for South and Central Asia affairs is set for $43.2 million which is down from $51.2 million in FY2018. The FY2017 budget, which was set by Obama was $68.4 million. Diplomatic programs for South and Central Asian Affairs are also down to $127.6 million in FY2019, from FY2017 of $162.4 million.

https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/277155.pdf

This means less money for mischief and nonsense fact finding reports.
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Anyway, you're in Londonistan, so why should you care one way or another?
thanks to the internet, i might be, or might not be :twisted:

however, what happens to america affects everyone else - so everyone is watching closely. you say you want the world order blown up - and that is trumps agenda... but the latter is certainly not clear and the former comes with significant risks, and is not necessarily what everyone else wants

so far, the rest of the world has been nicely summed up by the reaction at the UNGA to the big achievement bhashan

and forgive my saying so, but you sound angry - very angry. and the yak herder sounds like he's about to become a workplace shooter. at least we can say that you both have assimilated deeply into the american tribal structure and faithfully represent your tribal alignments
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something else i read earlier... the FBI investigation is unlikely to look much into the allegations of boofing and the devils triangle... but is more likely to look into financial matters... plus the simple fact that BK has basically committed perjury by blurting out all the stuff he has over the last few days

whats going on here is a naked attempt to place a biased judge beholden to specific political interests in a life time position, who will not only pass evanjehadi pasand laws but also do special favours to protect a president who is in some significant difficulties for all the fun stuff he is neck deep in

this cannot be a good thing for the most powerful nation on earth
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Terms of reference are the two witnesses Dr. Ford and Ramirez. Nothing else. Back In 7 days.
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and forgive my saying so, but you sound angry - very angry. and the yak herder sounds like he's about to become a workplace shooter. at least we can say that you both have assimilated deeply into the american tribal structure and faithfully represent your tribal alignments
Yikes! So you think UBji has gone postal and I'm unhinged? :lol: :rotfl: :mrgreen:

BK is the best we can get, Trump's other nominees for SCOTUS are just plain scary! If he doesn't get in, then we'll get the Handmaid's Tale lady, and that would be really scary as she's one of those with 7 kids and wants to ban all forms of birth control.
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What I have learned about the Yoo Ess from this dhaga is that ppl don't go to parties for the food or to show off one's fine clothes. :eek: :oops:
Meanwhile from the Orangeutan:
"The FBI I believe is doing a really great job," he said. They have been all over already. They have free rein. They're going to do whatever they have to do, whatever it is they do. They'll be doing things that we've never even thought of, and hopefully at the conclusion everything will be fine."
In the added inquiry, which he expects to take less than a week, Trump said there might be "a blessing in disguise," exposing Democrats' machinations over the past several days.
The inquiry is expected to wrap by Friday.
In a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray on Saturday, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, requested that the bureau notify the White House Counsel's Office immediately if any witnesses attempt to in any way delay the investigation or decline to cooperate.
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Trump attacks Booker, stands by Kavanaugh at Rally

The FBI has reached out to a second woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault -- a day after President Trump ordered the bureau to conduct a new background investigation.

An attorney for Deborah Ramirez, who claims that Kavanaugh exposed himself to her at a Yale college party in the 1980s, said that the FBI had reached out to her.

"We can confirm the FBI has reached out to interview Ms. Ramirez and she has agreed to cooperate with their investigation," attorney John Clune said in a statement. "Out of respect for the integrity of the process, we will have no further comment at this time."

The development was first reported by The Washington Post.

Before heading to West Virginia on Saturday for a political rally, President Trump expressed confidence in Kavanaugh.

"I would expect it's going to turn out very well for the judge," he said. "There's never been anybody that's been looked at like Judge Kavanaugh."

Trump said he had no backup plan concerning his nomination, and didn't need one.
SCOTUS confirmation battle continues as 2018 midterm elections approach; 'ANHQ' political panel shares insight.

The president also voiced confidence in the investigative process. "The FBI I believe is doing a really great job," he said. They have been all over already. They have free rein. They're going to do whatever they have to do, whatever it is they do. They'll be doing things that we've never even thought of, and hopefully at the conclusion everything will be fine."

In the added inquiry, which he expects to take less than a week, Trump said there might be "a blessing in disguise," exposing Democrats' machinations over the past several days.

The FBI background check comes after Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., joined Democrats on Friday in calling for the investigation into sexual assault allegations made against Kavanaugh.

Kavanaugh has repeatedly denied all accusations against him.

FLAKE DEFENDS CALL FOR KAVANAUGH DELAY: 'WE'RE COMING APART AT THE SEAMS'

On Thursday Kavanaugh testified to a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing after Christine Blasey Ford testified that he had assaulted her at a high school party in 1982. In a blistering response, he called the circumstances surrounding his nomination a "circus."
On Friday, the committee voted to recommend Kavanaugh to the Senate for confirmation to the high court post, but Flake requested the “limited” weeklong background check. With Republicans holding a very slim majority in the Senate, Trump ordered the investigation despite GOP leaders having previously argued there was no need for further investigation.

The inquiry is expected to wrap by Friday.

In a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray on Saturday, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, requested that the bureau notify the White House Counsel's Office immediately if any witnesses attempt to in any way delay the investigation or decline to cooperate.
One key reason for his concern, wrote Hatch, a member and former chairman of the Senate Judicary Committee, "comes from testimony during the hearing this past Thursday. According to Dr. Ford, she would have preferred to have been interviewed in California, away from the spectacle of a public hearing. But her lawyers apparently refused to convey to their client numerous offers by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley to conduct a public or private interview in a location of her choosing. The lawyers’ refusal led directly to a public hearing, against Dr. Ford’s express wishes. This is deeply troubling."
Wonder how fast they can get the goods from the Caymans.
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AoA! There were already 11,600+ comments under that story inside 4 hours!!!
So Lalmullahji is right: elephants ARE mad! Meanwhile, donkeys have gone silent. I think that extra week of Free Biscuits was a total shock. A lot of cellphones and bank accts can be checked in 1 week if the EphBeeEye contacts the EnnArrO/ NSA. May be busy trying to delete WhatsApp messages. meanwhile:
Avenatti
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We have yet to hear from the FBI. When and if we do, we will promptly disclose to them all information and witnesses in our possession. We continue to request this opportunity as we have been doing for days. My client is telling the truth and deserves to be heard and not shammed.
Meanwhile more work for the EphBeeEye:
Washington (CNN)The Senate Judiciary Committee has referred an individual who made "materially false statements" alleging misconduct by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh to the FBI and Justice Department for a criminal investigation.
"Such acts are not only unfair; they are potentially illegal," committee Chairman Chuck Grassley wrote in a letter Saturday to Attorney General Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Chris Wray.
Grassley wants the FBI and DOJ to investigate whether the individual potentially obstructed the committee's nomination process of Kavanaugh by providing fraudulent information to committee investigators.
"It is illegal to make materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statements to Congressional investigators. It is illegal to obstruct Committee investigation," the Iowa Republican wrote.

The office of Rhode Island Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, a Democrat who sits on the Judiciary Committee, received a call on Monday concerning an allegation -- now found to be false -- of a 1985 incident in Newport where a woman was sexually assaulted on a boat by two heavily inebriated men she referred to as "Brett and Mark."
The person being referred has had his name redacted from the materials released. He said he heard of the assault that same day and physically confronted the two attackers, according to the documents. He falsely claimed that he realized one of the attackers was Kavanaugh after seeing his yearbook photo on TV over the weekend.
Kavanaugh was interviewed by the committee on Tuesday about the allegation and categorically denied the claim.
"I was not in Newport, haven't been on a boat in Newport. Not with Mark Judge on a boat, nor all those three things combined. This is just completely made up, or at least not me," Kavanaugh told the committee, according to transcripts.
The committee said after the transcripts of the interview became public on Wednesday, the individual "recanted" and apologized for the claim through a social media post.
In his letter to Sessions and Wray, Grassley wrote that the committee is "grateful to citizens who come forward with relevant information in good faith, even if they are not one hundred percent sure about what they know."
"But when individuals provide fabricated allegations to the Committee, diverting Committee resources during time-sensitive investigations, it materially impedes our work," he said.
The FBI is currently conducting a supplemental background investigation "limited to current credible allegations" of sexual assault and misconduct against Kavanaugh, with a deadline of Friday to conclude its probe.
CNN's Kevin Bohn contributed to this report.
Also:
"Was it Sen. Feinstein?" Trump asked. "Certainly, her body language was not exactly very good when they asked her that question. I would like to find out as part of it who leaked the papers. Which Democrat leaked the papers?"
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The following line's in wsj's editorial caught my eye

https://www.wsj.com/articles/confirm-br ... 1538089143
Had he not been as forceful, his opponents would have said he looked guilty. Because he called the Democrats out for their character assassination, the critics now say he lacks the right temperament. The truth is that there is no answer, and no demeanor, that Brett Kavanaugh could offer that the left would credit. Their goal isn’t the truth. They want to destroy Judge Kavanaugh.
The following was not picked up by the regular media. I thought the ABA had pulled back its support; apparently not!!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/another-ka ... 1538176574
Meanwhile, Democrats also received an in-kind political contribution Friday from the head of the American Bar Association, who sent a letter to the Senate calling for an FBI probe and delay. “The basic principles that underscore the Senate’s constitutional duty of advice and consent on federal judicial nominees require nothing less,” wrote Robert Carlson. Surely it’s a coincidence that Mr. Carlson, according to campaign-finance records at OpenSecrets.org, was a donor to Hillary Clinton.

Mr. Carlson wants to give the impression that the ABA is walking away from its previous expansive praise for Judge Kavanaugh. The ABA has a Standing Committee on the Federal Judiciary that reviews nominees, and on Aug. 30 it gave Judge Kavanaugh its highest rating.

This included a glowing report on his character and competence. Dozens of law professors reviewed his writings. Comments were solicited from 471 judges, lawyers and academics. This material was collated into 1,635 pages.

The ABA committee then voted unanimously that Judge Kavanaugh is “well qualified” for the Supreme Court. Its final report quotes unnamed colleagues and observers: “His integrity is absolutely unquestioned.” “He is what he seems, very decent, humble, and honest.” “He is just the best—brilliant, a great writer, fair, and he is open-minded.”

Mr. Carlson is not a member of that committee, and he is not supposed to speak for the ABA unless the legal group has made a policy decision. In this case he is trying to sandbag his own ABA colleagues. Paul Moxley, the Utah lawyer who chairs the ABA’s judicial committee, made that clear on Friday when he wrote to the Senate Judiciary Committee that Mr. Carlson’s letter “was not received” by his ABA committee “prior to its issuance.” Mr. Moxley added: “The ABA’s rating for Judge Kavanaugh is not affected by Mr. Carlson’s letter.”

In other words, Mr. Carlson is free-lancing for partisan purposes and the Senate should ignore him. For the rest of us, however, this is one more reason to bar the ABA from any judicial vetting. Some of us still remember the ABA’s shoddy treatment of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.
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Mort Walker wrote:Trump is a racist.
This is wrong! This is a perception democrats and the media supporting democrats managed to create in others' mind. Ever since Trump announced in plan for contesting election, he repeatedly tweeted about his opposition to illegal immigration. Entire media dropped the illegal part, and made it appear that he is against Mexican immigrants and he is a racist too. This perception still stays in many people's mind.

Samples:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4929446912
We MUST have strong borders and stop illegal immigration. Without that we do not have a country. Also, Mexico is killing U.S. on trade. WIN!
30 Jun 2015

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4753760262
For all of those who want to #MakeAmericaGreatAgain, boycott @Macys. They are weak on border security & stopping illegal immigration.
1 Jul 2015
Any Indian, who understands the problem of illegal Bengladeshi immigration to India will understand the reasoning behind those tweets.
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Why does the media go so low?
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As far as DT being rasisi fellow, any political leader of GoP will be certified as such by MSM. Unless some actions taken by him are overtly racist we can not call him that. I have seen BK examination on subject matter etc and he seems to quite a capable person. So I am not sure if anyone can say that he is not qualified for the job. He is from Bush's chamcha gang. So not some DT crazy thing. Maybe a neocon. We do not know.

The main problem is Dems have gone completely socialist mode. Extreme left ideas now the main plank of that party.

PS: We do not like illegal Bidees and Rohingyas in India so how can we ask khanland to take Mexicans and what not.
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shyam wrote:
Mort Walker wrote:Trump is a racist.
This is wrong! This is a perception democrats and the media supporting democrats managed to create in others' mind. Ever since Trump announced in plan for contesting election, he repeatedly tweeted about his opposition to illegal immigration. Entire media dropped the illegal part, and made it appear that he is against Mexican immigrants and he is a racist too. This perception still stays in many people's mind.

Samples:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4929446912
We MUST have strong borders and stop illegal immigration. Without that we do not have a country. Also, Mexico is killing U.S. on trade. WIN!
30 Jun 2015

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4753760262
For all of those who want to #MakeAmericaGreatAgain, boycott @Macys. They are weak on border security & stopping illegal immigration.
1 Jul 2015
Any Indian, who understands the problem of illegal Bengladeshi immigration to India will understand the reasoning behind those tweets.

Trump doesn’t care that people call him racist.

He’ll protect the US no matter what other people say. People call him all sorts of things.

If you look at things dispassionately, you can say he puts the nation over himself.

That is what makes him the perfect president to tackle issues that others avoid.
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From the pov of my neighborhood:
Trump actually **DID** something about the problem of uncontrolled influx of fanatics of One Community. What has India done, for all the vaunted Mandate given to NaMo/NDA? What did Obama do, other than fa*t? It's never pretty, and whoever takes the needed action is going to get hammered, but he did it. Anyone have any better ideas for stopping influx of terrorists/would-be terrorists? A Congress dominated by One Community reps? Or do people think that is not a priority? Will the attitude of "chalta hai"/ "Free Society" survive imposition of shariah and Jezia and 3-Talak? So while demanding sane enforcement by intelligent officials and not baboons, it is necessary to recognize that the action was necessary. He DID something that was needed.

Healthcare: Yes, the BOCare system is incredibly complicated, and should be criticized as such. There **HAS* to be a way to break out of the stranglehold of the AMA, the Insurance Companies and the Tort Ambuchasers and the Drug Mafia. Trump has not entirely trashed BOCare, but he has fired the warning shots. He has also **started*** going after the drug companies, at least criticizing the 5000% price hikers.

No other POTUS except BO ever actually did anything to rein in the nonsense of US healthcare which is clearly run by a cruel and extortionist Mafia.

Tax system: yes, he simplified it and reduced the tax rates/raised the slab levels. Bless him for that. Yeah, he slammed the states that voted against him by removing the State Tax Exemption. Let people agitate to keep State taxes low, that's a win-win. Why should Fed taxes subsidize out-of-control State Tax rates? I wish he hadn't also removed the Charitable Contributions exemption, I hope the COTUS if they can ever take a break from pompous speeches on high school orgies, will see fit to put that back into the exemptions above the basic $24K standard deduction.

NoKo: He toed a very dangerous line and basically scared everyone into breaking down walls. I don't think the NoKo/cheen nuclear scam is over, but at least the scare level is down, with a general expectation that NoKo will reduce its nuclear threat posture. Yeah, I saw latest demand that US reduce sanctions, but that's all part of negotiation.

Syria: THIS (after tax reduction) is where I would mail in a vote for him from Mongolia. His handling has been fine-wire trapeze act, but has allowed the Russians breathing room to smash the ISIS. US Deep State is criminally involved in this, and the Donkeys, sad to say, are deeper in than the elephants into this genocidal scam. Just for this, the Democrat leadership should be damned for all time.

Deep State has really come out strongly in this, and the latest Kavanaugh stunt is a good example. Hope some of their tentacles get uprooted in the EphBeeEye investigation.

Iran/Israel: Everyone knows that DC is under the grip of the Israelis, competing or maybe collaborating with the Cheen. Breaking this hold is not easy, and those why try it generally lose the next election. The ARA is powerful too, and maybe also in league with the other two. So are the Saudis and Oil Money. So the Deep State has to be kicked around before this Mafia can be broken. I think (as said before) that the end-game of Iran-Israel-KSA tamasha is where Israel-Iran recognize common interests and ally to go after KSA. They will do this out of sheer fear that the alternative is a MAD incineration of both Israel and Iran.

Beyond that the usual tamasha of Attorney Jarnail and Justice Dept being in constant upheaval, is all good, to keep the DC Insiders hopping in insecurity. The common overriding trait of all these people is their immense bloated ego and unbounded greed and personal ambition: only a DT-type approach can keep them in line: treat them like the sh1ts that they are.

The MSM in all this has very very clearly identified itself as being totally bought-and-paid-for. LOOK at CNN antics for the past 2.5 years!

So these 2 years have been a real eye-opener in Understanding the Yoo Ess. The rumors of Deep State are not at all incredible: it's right there b4 yur eyes.

Finally, the Kavanaugh case raises very strong issues.
Either they have real evidence of real incidents that are truly horrendous, and are using this Ford/Hernandez ridiculous cover of "I don't remember where or when", just to induce perjury on which they can nail the guy,
OR
the whole thing is a DeepState engineered scam, using a trained piskologist LieDetector-Buster with CIA experience, plus other totally unsubstantiated "charges" to subvert the whole process. That would indicate extreme desperation on the part of Deep State because it was THAT EZ for the elephants to pretend to be in a tug-of-war about "Another FBI investigation", and then let go at the very last moment. Now the FBI **CANNOT** do its usual "302" and say "He said she said". Their charge is to "clear the name of" one or the other, and thereby trash the other. No middle way that I can see. If BK is "cleared" then CF is trashed. And of course if CF is vindicated then BK has to Find Hesus and resign from the DC bench as well.

Maybe DT has a different set of cases to bring before a sympathetic SCOTUS: like nailing the Deep State? It's tough, if you think about it, to embark on a process where you will have to end up trying billionaires and Generals and Admirals for treason, and winning.
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Let's not kid ourselves. Trump has a history of racism from the time of denial of apartments to upper-middle class blacks in 1973. The 1989 Central Park gang rape attack and the way Trump, as a private citizen, railed about it and forced NYC to make false arrests. I was there back then and Trump was at his height as NYC property developer. Trump has also been an enabler for far more dangerous racists within his administration like Steven Miller, Jeff Sessions and Steve Bannon. The two Steves have a big disdain for Indian people.

The truth is being US president is not a difficult job compared to say being PM of India or several other countries. Trump serves to dismantle the current structure which is inimical to India and Indians. It will take him until 2025 to do this.
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I realize that this forum is entirely about India, but it is useful for predictive purposes to think in terms that are most relevant to the parties whose moves one is trying to predict. India comes somewhere way down the priority list for all POTUS/POTUS candidates and Senators. Each one's attitude towards "India" is not one of their driving fixed positions. Trump FWIW has seen fit to hold up India and Indians (in particular yindoos) as examples for his PRESENT directions. Much more than the Other Side ever has. People need to understand that even when POTUSes think about "Alliance of Free Democracies" they are thinking of US, UQ, Australian, Canada, France, Germany, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Singapore and then, maybe then, India.
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This is where Trump is different. Once the declassified FISA application is made public (which is expected to happen after Kavanaugh confirmation), US' relation with traditional first world democratic allies will be shaken to the core. It is expected to disclose that the most trusted allies were involved in the attempt to delegitimize and overthrow of a democratically elected POTUS (UK and AUS top the list). He sees India as the new strategic partner. In Trump's recent UN speech, he complemented India when there was no obvious personal gain for him by doing that (even Modi wasn't there to be flattered).
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shyamji, Trump will get no votes at all by holding up the Heathain Pagan yindoos as examples to his Hesus-lovin Bawn-Agin lily-white following. Not over Poodlestan or Kangaroostan. Oh, I forgot New Zealand, Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Denmark and Luxembourg as being ahead of India in the list of Top Democracies. OK, 1000 yindoo-american votes if the Donkey candidate again has a Huma running their show, but otherwise all 100 BigMoney Yindoos will also go and give their contributions to the donkeys as possible winners, since they find the CIA-LieDetectorBibi "credible". India is right now OK because the stars are aligned. But in the coming era? I think the Neocon crowd sees Myanmar as a prime target for The Saints 2 Go Marchin' In, right under cheen's noses, and counter the evil pagans genociding the gentle Rohingyas. A Saudi-supported move to set up bases at the tip of Myanmar, displacing the cheen. Maybe there is a feeling that a wonderful real-estate/resort based deal with the Ummah is the way to the Newest Whirled Biss Odor. I think in the wonderful la la land of Foggy Bottom this bright idea is gaining currency. Make the best deals with your (former) enemies. Keeps them from bombing your hotel. Biss on your (former) friends, there ain't no friends in bijnej.
Also, the present **guvrmands*** (not media etc) of Poodlestan and Kangaroostan probably see more common cause with the Orangeutan than with the donkeys, hain?
While Phrogistan and the Reich may feel differently.
Sooner or later, all are going to HAVE to bring in more repressive rules to stop the shariah takeover. For that, things would be so much better if there are fascists across the pond as well. Otherwise they will themselves be replaced with the extreme-nationalists in their own countries. 1935.
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On cue: Comey opens his.
"If truth were the only goal, there would be no clock, and the investigation wouldn’t have been sought after the Senate Judiciary Committee already endorsed the nominee,"
If anyone doubted that Comey is a Democrat shill, this does it.

er.. the guy has been Investigated by the FBI SIX times, at least one of those when Comey was director or associate director of the FBI. So isn't he saying that he was incompetent? Oh wait! That is on the record as he was fired for incompetence. Duh!

Every time these entities open theirs, they confirm Trump's basic sense of what they are.
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Gets better. Fear sets in.
"If confirmed, Kavanaugh should recuse himself from all cases involving Democrats"
:rotfl:
I'd say that the far worse fear should be if he is **NOT** confirmed.

Plus... more work for ambu-chasers:
Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s office will be investigated to determine whether it leaked a confidential letter from one of Brett Kavanaugh’s accusers, Sen. Tom Cotton said Sunday.
Cotton, an Arkansas Republican, also said lawyers recommended to Christine Blasey Ford by Democrats will face a Washington, D.C., bar investigation for telling her that Senate Judiciary Committee staffers would not travel to California to interview her about her sexual-assault allegation.
“They have betrayed her,” Cotton said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “She has been victimized by Democrats ... on a search-and-destroy mission for Brett Kavanaugh.” He also said Democrats would be at fault if women become less likely to report sexual assaults now because they did not keep Ford’s request confidential, as she had asked. “Any impact that this entire episode has had,“ Cotton told John Dickerson, “on women's willingness to come forward and report sexual assault, which I encourage them all to do immediately after it happens, is caused by the Democrats, is caused by Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer not respecting her requests for confidentiality.“
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Mort, John Ferraro, husband of Geraldine Ferraro, a slum lord in New York, often refused to rent to Indian immigrants in New York.
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There is behind the scene push for ABA to change its rating of Kavanaugh
WSJ edit pushes back with:
Mr. Kavanaugh didn’t ignore his 307 judicial opinions and hunt for dirt to destroy his reputation. Mr. Kavanaugh didn’t float charges about gang rape and ask questions about adolescent entries in a high-school yearbook. That was the “tenor” supplied by Ms. Feinstein and Democratic yearbook scholar Sheldon Whitehouse.

Mr. Kavanaugh is fighting for his professional life, has been accused of being a violent drunk and gang rapist, and he is supposed to respond like he’s at a Supreme Court oral argument on the separation of powers? Under this Feinstein-Biskupic standard, Democrats are allowed to say anything to ruin a nominee and then disqualify that nominee because he fights back rather than withdraws.

As for Judge Kavanaugh being a partisan Republican, what else is new? The four liberal Justices on the Supreme Court are partisan Democrats. The relevant standard for a judge is whether he can separate his legal analysis from his partisan affiliation. Judge Kavanaugh has a decade-long record of doing exactly that on the federal bench.

Speaking of judicial temperament, recall Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s rhetorical assault on Donald Trump in July 2016. “I can’t imagine what the country would be—with Donald Trump as our President,” the Justice averred, adding that the possibility brought to mind her late husband’s advice: “Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand.” How does that rate on partiality?
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BK was a witness & behaved like a wrongly accused person, should. He was not asked to be a dispassionate judge.

This Dr lady behaving as a 10 year naive adolescent was also cool. Probably still traumatised as a victim after 40 years.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... er/571720/
Here’s Why White Women Are Abandoning the GOP
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Gyan wrote:BK was a witness & behaved like a wrongly accused person, should. He was not asked to be a dispassionate judge.
he was being interviewed for a job as one of the highest judges in the land, which requires him to display judge like characteristics and given the role of the supreme court not to be overtly partisan, and most importantly not to score own goals by perjuring himself. even republican commentators are writing in the press that BK has failed those tests

all he had to do was to say 'I used to be a bad boy, but I discovered Jesus and I am alright now' - he stayed well away from that line of defence
This Dr lady behaving as a 10 year naive adolescent was also cool. Probably still traumatised as a victim after 40 years.
if you read about victims of sexual assault - including men, most are reluctant to come forward with it and do remain traumatised for years/decades. have you been following the incidents of abuse in the catholic church?
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The learning from this incident should be the movement of our elites who are increasingly acting as an extension of western sensibilities (the 13 regional circuit as it were). The day is not far when the goi appointed personnel are scrutinized in a media forum if not a public one, and declared the second coming of demons.
Other than that,the sd of usa can get literal dogs and cats elected,without the voters batting an eyelid, only the coming of the kumbaya generation can change the landscape. Till then, this is just a meaningless circus to distract from the realities of life.
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ricky_v wrote: Till then, this is just a meaningless circus to distract from the realities of life.
^^^ Important observation. Reminded me of the following. If US (and OECD) economic potential has greatly declined, this will certainly be something that the elites want to do, i.e., distract the plebeians from revolting.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/opin ... nkish.html
The Economic Future Isn’t What It Used to Be
Using conventional measures, the Great Recession and the depressed economy that lingered for years thereafter cost the U.S. something like 15 percent of a year’s GDP. If the decline in long-term economic prospects was also caused by the slump, this cost rises to something much bigger – possibly more than 70 percent of a year’s GDP so far, and much more to come.
One possible story about the way the Great Shortfall followed the Great Recession is that post hoc wasn’t propter hoc: the economy’s potential is far less than people expected it to be a decade ago, but the reasons for the downward bend in the long-run growth curve have little to do with the financial crisis – they just happened to kick in roughly at the same time.
Which brings me to a second possible explanation of the Great Shortfall: maybe it exists only in the minds and models of policymakers (or, actually, their technical experts), and isn’t a real thing at all. That is, the belief that our economic potential has fallen far below previous expectations doesn’t represent an actual economic ailment, but instead reflects policymakers’ hypochondria.
Which brings us to the third story, which is that the Great Recession itself damaged potential output, largely by reducing productivity.
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