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Yagnasri wrote:CPM people are getting attacked.
Quick update on this :). K.K Lathika is a CPI(M) woman leader who made post on social media that petty crimes (especially eve-teasing, chain snatching etc.) have come down in Kerala as all of those criminals are now sitting in protest chanting Ayyappa mantras. The hidden connotation being that Ayyappa bhakths are also anti-women & s-exual perverts. The Sangh Parivar used the same social media to show an old incident in which K.K Lathika herself was getting groped by CPI(M) revolutionaries :lol:. But looks like there were also disgruntled people who were not happy on justice served using social media.

The names of the victims are "Julius Nikhidas" s/o P. Mohanan a CPI(M) leader from Kozhikode Dt. and his wife "Sanyo Manomi". Looks like these folks are also crypto-X'ians. More skeletons parachuting from the closet ;).
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Sachin wrote:Updates - 1430Hrs 17/11/2018

No young women detected, so situation peaceful. The only concern seems to be the police action of yesterday evening when they evicted people who camped at the temple premises. This move has received lots of flak, especially when the pilgrims have no place to decently spend the night. Photos of young Malikapurams (girls) sleeping next to garbage bins etc. are all doing their rounds in social media. The "secular" channels are now focusing on the ill-timed Harthal. Hartal hits normal life in Kerala; Pilgrims affected., BJP forced closure of food, water provisions for devotees: Kadakampally. & Chennithala slams hartal; Says Sasikala made a star overnight.. All this is from a single pro-government media outlet Mathrubhumi. We can see the stories they try to spin.

At present Sabari Mala pilgrimage is going on track, but Janam TV live has a ticker which states that Chief Minister has again asked the police to keep up the bandobust to facilitate entry of young women. My gut feeling is that from today on wards K.P may go back to allowing people to camp at the hill top over night. The crowd should be more today.

And the point to be highlighted is the pathetic facilities provided at Sabari Mala for the pilgrims. That it self would keep GoKL and Travancore Devaswom Board in a back foot mode.
The deliberate and continued degradation of facilities even though the rush of pilgrims is well anticipated as well as a largely quantifiable phenomenon is a ploy to increase the difficulties of the devotees. BIF is in full play here. Soul searing jealousy plays a very major part in such mean minded tactics.

The money for the urgent as well as complete repair of all the "damaged" facilities, rest stops, food and water arrangements, medical help vagera vagera was always available from what the devotees have already contributed.

It is distressing that contracts for hotels etc on the route are given to some minorities by some "auction process". Is this normal in other places of worship not pertaining to the majority or is it simply to be passed off as an inevitable part and parcel of our famed sickularism??

If help is permitted, many large corporates would gladly jump in on a war footing basis to set right/restore/new build very quickly many of the required facilities at their own cost.

when we readily have the expertise of the regular and successful conduct of the Khumb mela, Tirupati as well as the Sabarimala and other much more arduous pilgrimages in the north why have we failed so miserably to capitalize on this talent pool??. Instead, we seem happy to have our pilgrims wade through slushy, muddy, unhygienic conditions, pay through the nose for overpriced food and buy other necessities at extortionate rates.

Customers/consumers with such a massive collective clout should be able to command and demand superior services but sadly, that never seems to be the case.
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CPM-SDPI attack against Sabarimala KERALA Five RSS activists were injured and two others were seriously injured
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Kollam: CPI-SDPI attack on protesters at Sabarimala Karma Samiti in Karunagapally.Five RSS activists are injured. Two of them were seriously injured. They were beaten on the head with iron rods. Biju, Akshay, Anil Kumar, Chikku and Kannan were injured.

The incident happened on Karunagapally Puthiya Street. They were attacked without any provocation.
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There is no genuine Hindu supporting political party exiats in South India that has a clear vision. The two fronts in KL, both are half filled with commies, the two in dk land are naturally commies, the two Telugu states are totally *turdized, wnd KA is a gone case.

SI is a big playground for invading mindsets against Hinduism. The dravidian-aryan conspiracy is because of the very same weaknesses Hindus have exposed.... The list can go on and on....

Time for fundamental Hindu remiasance.which never happened since adi shankaracharya, is all valid and cogent now.
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The Commies want to invite women from far away Pune and give them protection to reach Sabarimala. But, have arrested a 52 year old Hindu woman leader KP Sasikala for attempting to go to Sabarimala!
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Commies knows how to loot if you dont drop money into Hundi
Pathanamtitta to Pamba 63 km, Normal FP Bus 100rs... It was 77rs till recently. 23rs hike all of a sudden..If this is not loot.. What else is..

@lotophagus @RahulEaswar @mohandastg

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https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/w ... ochi-91695

Totally leftee report. Funny to see this EJ thinking herself as 21st Cen Female Shivaji Maharaj.
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Yagnasri wrote: If someone is serious about this I can help with the people.. for getting tax exemption thing.
Yagnasriji:
Trying to minimize OT here so will just post links. Reading the stuff there is enough to keep blood close to 100Celsius.
Issue is whether the 80G can be changed to bring all temples (that can satisfy minimal criteria such as governance structure) under 100% deduction, without the "10% of Income" limit presently set to accommodate Xtian Tithing.
Implication is that it will allow Kshetra Punaruddharana Samitis (KPS) to run the temples, and render the Government Devaswom irrelevant or at least deny them the opportunity to misuse cash donations for Govt. boondoggles. Faithfuls pls browse a couple of links:
1. List of entities Notified By Guvrmand
Exempted Institutions: Straight from Ghode ke mukh-dvar

These Lists are ridiculous until u realize that the are set up to swallow all the money. I mean, a nation of 1.3 BILLION people, has 27 entities that are certified to be tax-exempt? The law should be that any institution that can get the designation, is exempt. They can advertise themselves. Govt has no *&^&% business advertising Africa Fund and Rajiv Gandhi Trust as the places to send money to. Shame that a NaMo govt has done nothing to clean this up after 4.5 years, but the Faithful will immediately become defensive and call it Unjustified Criticism etc. JUST CHANGE IT!

I am saying that this is an excellent opportunity to get a sweeping tax simplification by guvrmand ordinance. Right now momentum is building: If it can be used to dry up the guvrmand cash-cow bijnej and allow real, transparent donations to flow freely to the KPS, we will have made an immense change and delivered a death-blow to the anti-Hindu ripoff tradition (set up by the British!!!!!!!)
Bhaktas are immersed in battles, too intense to have time to think of the war. But they will see the sense of this simple move eventually.

For short-term, moves such as what you suggested could fund the war-chest. But there may be enough such things already set up to Propagate The Message of Sanatana Dharma / Inspire Young Indians to Self-Reliance etc. Those have to get into Caste-Free Certificate. One danger is that temples that restrict based on caste, gender etc may have trouble unless they are specially certified - which may actually solve SM's problems. "Temple to worship Naishtika Brahmachari FACET of Shri Ayyappa". Send the application along with other temples to worship "Garhastya facet" and maybe even Warrior Facet. Need a dedicated Legal Team working behind scenes of PeeAref.

Will be happy to move discussion to the ***YAWN*** forum if Bredator Bolis demand the move, of course. But hardly anyone goes there any more except to discuss deserving topics such as Aliens visjiting TVM.
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At this point, the sannidhanam is left with just the last line of defense. The police is occupying the vital nada panthal, and not allowing anyone to stay there. It would be terrible if the bolis attempt a penetration tomorrow. Any progress beyond the last point 50M before nada panthal will be bad, but the red line is at the bottom of the holy steps.

The posters are good to go. A few typos with Kannada is received from Ravikr, which I will post soon.
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https://twitter.com/surnell/status/1063614237879209986
#SaveSabarimalaTradition Harassment of Devotees by the police in Sannidhanam. Athiti Devi Bhava in God's own Country. And @drthomasisaac was saying drop in tourist was due to #KeralaFloods No man! It is because your Govt and Police treat people like this. Exhibit 3
https://twitter.com/i/status/1063614237879209986
no water for little kids
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Pratheesh Viswanath
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Still no clean food, no clean water, no toilet facilities... Devotees r suffering big. State govt is doing worse to Devotees. Lets see. Swamy Saranam. #Sabarimala

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Updates at 17/11/2018 21:30Hrs.

No young woman made any attempt to start their journey from Pampa today. But Marie Sweetie, the woman who made the most comical attempt last time did try coming in again. Her first attempt was when the frusturated police had brought down Kavita Koshi and Rehana Fathima from the hill, and there was Marie Sweetie waiting to go. She said that he gets such instructions via Telepathi etc. Perhaps this time also she got such a message, but was identified and stopped at a place Chengannur. Then she reduced her demand; that she only plans to go till Pampa river point. Finally she went back to Kazhakootam near Trivandrum from where she came in. I am amazed at the devotion to Lord Ayyappa from X'ians and Muslims ;).

The current hot issue is the "Sanitisation of Sannidhanam/hill top" in the night. The police is forcing every pilgrim to go down the hill and asking them to climb up again if they have to do Ghee Abhishekam (a mandatory ritual, which kind of completes the pilgrimage). Yesterday it was a big problem that devotees had to hang around the trekking path (with no food or sanitary facilities) and then get back again to do the Ghee Abhishekam. Tonight also the police is trying to do the same thing. The hill top has 13 hotels + 2 light food stalls. This time around only 6 hotels are operating (as there were no more applicants for the tender). The businessmen who take the contracts have all withdrawn, because they feel there would only be losses if they take the contract this year around.

The current police strategy is to stop pilgrims trekking up by around 1800Hrs (or when the crowd at the hill top goes beyond a limit). Then at 2300Hrs the crowd at the hill top is just forced to go down hill again, and then kind of just survive there for the night. Then come back up again at around 0200 Hrs the next day, and then do the Ghee abhishekam starting at around 0300Hrs. The police have asked the timings of Ghee abhishekam to be extended, but don't know if the chief priest would agree to this. There are back-to-back Poojas till around afternoon 1230Hrs. Looks like there would be some negotiations happening tomorrow.

Mean while K.Surendran @ Ulli/Onion Sura the BJP leader has landed up at Nilakkal base camp, and the police has decided to take him to preventive custody. Where as the Hindu Aikya Vedi leader Sasikala has been released on bail and also granted permission to visit the temple. The BJP strategy seems to be to send up some leader (and his followers) one after the other to the hill temple, like the Kamikaze wave air strikes of WW II :).
Dileep wrote:At this point, the sannidhanam is left with just the last line of defense. The police is occupying the vital nada panthal, and not allowing anyone to stay there. It would be terrible if the bolis attempt a penetration tomorrow.
Considering the police attitude, that could be a possibility. But it would also be a very risky attempt. Remember that the poor pilgrims are all pushed and held back at Marakoottam which I guess is around 900mts to 1000mts away from the Nadapanthal area. The police will have to then ensure that the women agents are brought up to the hill some time during the previous day itself. They will then have to be kept hidden in one of the government facilities out there. And next day at 0400Hrs quickly take them and try to get the darshan; while still holding back the pilgrims at Marakoottam and NOT allowing more pilgrims to start from Pampa river point. But what happens next? The fact that young women made an attempt would be known soon. The police & the women at Sannidhanam would be facing a big crowd of angry pilgrims. And then there are no escape routes for the police and the women (other than one path through hills & forests). They can never go back the most commonly used route to trek down hill.

The government at this point is severely facing a backlash. The will power of the Ayyappa bhakthas are now clearly been proven. Courtesy Trupti Desai, pretty much every one who watch television now knows what has happened. Pilgrims from other states have also arrived in large numbers. And TDB talks about going to the Supreme Court again. The government's communist/socialist philosophies and "explanation meetings" and the whine that we are implementing court order onlee are not getting many buyers.

PS: I am unable to give news references completely in English as many news portals are not putting the latest incidents or evolving situations.
PPS: Don't know if the Malayala Manorama news paper have come up with the Sabari Mala topography map. Generally they are the "experts" :roll: in putting up maps/layout pictures for even surgical strikes. A map, may give many people insight on the whole Sabari Mala area. Click here to get a Google Maps view of the place.
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K Surendran, BJP arrested
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Surendran is arrested citing "laa and ardar brablam". I am fine with this if they do the same with any 'yuvathi' people who want to break the tradition, and not take them under escort.

I think the BJP tactic now is to create this kind of issue and create a wider unrest, which if brought to sufficient level, can be cause for the CG to invoke article 356. If that is the case, it is a very bad idea onlee.
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Dear all.. Being Hindu is the biggest crime in Kerala. See the plight of kids and devotees at #Sabarimala Sannidanam. Swamy Saranam.https://twitter.com/pratheesh_ahp/statu ... 5970270208
Where are the 21st century facilities?
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The first day of the 'mandalam' comes to a close, without violation of the tradition. It yet to be seen whether the devotees will be allowed to remain at the sannidhanam.
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SaiK wrote:K Surendran, BJP arrested
Dileep wrote:Surendran is arrested citing "laa and ardar brablam". I am fine with this if they do the same with any 'yuvathi' people who want to break the tradition, and not take them under escort.
From what I understand from the police behaviour for the last 48 hours. They are trying desperately to avoid a "Siege of Sannidhanam" kind of situation at the hill top. The last time around when the shrine opened for two days, Sanghies had come up with such a meticulous scheme in which they were even able to dictate terms with the police. The police was forced to give a loud hailer to an RSS leader to pacify the crowd. So when any leader from BJP, RSS or any Hindu outfit comes in; the police is fearing that their followers have already reached the hill top and waiting for further instructions ;). And that led to their desperate attempt to evict pilgrims from the Sannidhanam and take every pro-Hindu outfit leader into preventive custody. The police even told K. Surendran that he can start his pilgrimage the next day (18th Nov) morning. It is because they fear that he now landing up any where near the Sannidhanam would be a pre-cursor to the Sangh taking over the temple. K.P is trying hard to prove that they are still the masters at Sabari Mala.
Dileep wrote:I think the BJP tactic now is to create this kind of issue and create a wider unrest, which if brought to sufficient level, can be cause for the CG to invoke article 356. If that is the case, it is a very bad idea onlee.
I tend to agree with you. If BJP is trying to make this Vimochana Samaram II, then it may not be a good idea. If you ask me, GoKL and and their minions K.P are now on a reconciliatory mode. I don't think they will try any new tactics this time around. The commies have realised their mistake, and the fact that Chief Minister himself have now passed the buck to the Travancore Devaswom Board is an indication that commies have also given up. The slave of GoKL, the Travancore Devaswom Board is now asked to fight a loosing battle.

Personally, I am against the BJP tactic of causing deliberate unrest in all Southern states. It is always better to keep devotion & politics as two separate entities.
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>>Personally, I am against the BJP tactic of causing deliberate unrest in all Southern states. It is always better to keep devotion & politics as two separate entities.

In an ideal world, yes. But in todays India, where the H-faith is something that can be wilfully trampled upon, whereas all others willy nilly mix devotion and bolitics to the advantage of their chosen faith.. to be over the top virtuous has made H's a mockery and a divided house.

Frankly, what's happening in KL is just par for the course in p-sec India. Common people elect the worst, most mendacious, anti-H leaders, get ruled by them and then make peaceful protests, FB forwards, etc while their basic rights get trampled upon, their people get beaten up.. and then they go out and elect the same bunch of jokers again.

TBH, after seeing all these "events", my sympathies are beginning to align with the BJP leaders. When they know many of their non-core supporters, across India, are so fickle, will gladly elect anti-H parties and power centers, why should they take a real harsh stand on any topic, putting themselves in any risk. After all, its simpler to just go on with survival and make money on the side, as other leaders do. Meanwhile, some guys will prefer to keep things on the boil to get re-elected, others (naive fools perhaps) will do these to make people's attitudes change.

For the guys in dilli, the powers that be, the pen stroke guys, passing all the mega-gyaan, all this is anyhow pop corn time.

KL is no exception to the rule. In Naarth too, just see how many RSS/BJP/Ordinary non criminal-non-political H's were killed, by caste-group/religiously mobilized elements. What happened to most of them? Precious little. One state was run like a personal fief of a caste based thug and his family for decades. He is still tottering about. This is the reality of H's and India. Petty caste trumps overall social or even national responsibilities.

I have my sympathies with the present situation in KL, to any devotee, its pretty dismaying as well. However, the true test of whether anything has changed, will be whether the commies get back into power. After this, if they do, ever again, and this is treated as "just a minor thing" then it speaks volumes for everyday people and the true question should be, why should we even expect anything different or expect the BJP or this or that to magically swing things.
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Sachin Bhai - In simplistic term so I see this, Now that the BJP has fought along my side (and I think the battle is won while they are up to making a war here),let me back stab them?
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Don't be afraid, no fear of failure....there is going to be no failure. Fight as long as it takes...
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Dileep its a war and you are seeing it a skirmish.
First few pages the lament was BJP not doing anything.
You think GoKL conciliatory move is just like that.
It was Governor telling DGP to back off after IGP Joseph was damaging motorcycles like a goonda in uniform.
Then they sent IGP Sreejith, a bhankth to escort that Muslim woman.

All this time RSS and BJP workers were being murdered regularly until NIA law was cracked down.
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She has blocked me. Weird
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ചാത്തൂട്ടി
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Sharat is a Swayam Sevak. He was away from home, participating Sabarimala agitation. So communist goons chose to attack his mom & snatched her chain.. #RedTerror
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Here is a video of a person requesting in Thamizh not to put money in the bhandaram

https://twitter.com/surnell/status/1063843246743461898
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CartographicBambinoji:

Brave. Very nicely done too. I was watching the face of the Swamy sitting in the seat behind the first seat. Took a long time before he started nodding understanding. Salt of the Bharatiya earth. At the end I think they were in agreement.
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mappunni wrote:Here is a video of a person requesting in Thamizh not to put money in the bhandaram

https://twitter.com/surnell/status/1063843246743461898
Did he say “Theeritu Devaswom Board!” :rotfl:
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Shocking Video !
Who is welcoming & greeting #TruptiDesai ?
What is plot behind her entry at #Sabarimala ?
Unite to #SaveSabarimalaTradition #SabarimalaTemple
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CPM-SDPI attacks Sabarimala karmasamaithy’s march ; 5 RSS activists injured, 2 are critical

https://national.janamtv.com/cpm-sdpi-a ... ical-3060/
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Pulikeshi wrote:
mappunni wrote:Here is a video of a person requesting in Thamizh not to put money in the bhandaram

https://twitter.com/surnell/status/1063843246743461898
Did he say “Theeritu Devaswom Board!” :rotfl:

Yes Sir. In thuya Thamizh he said "Thiruttu" Devasom Board. Like Thirudan :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Ramana, I am in it for a single point agenda of protecting the temple sanctity. My statement was a simple statement of fact. Actually, given the atrocities (and cluelessness) shown by this govt, I would actually support the brick-by-brick' thing.

But BJP need to cover a lot of distance to be a viable entity to claim a major presence in the electoral politics. The current wave of Hindu polarization (I should admit that myself got in the flow) have considerably reduced that distance, basically by moving the playground towards BJP (and away from commies). Still, I am not sure whether it moved enough to have a BJP/Cong alternating system leaving the commies out.

We are going to see a lot of unrest, and as an aam-admi maloo secular person, that concerns me. But it may also be looked at as the 'delivery pains' for a new system. Is that system a desirable one on all aspects? Maybe.. Maybe not.
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Off topic, but this is the exact state of almost all temples in India.

https://swarajyamag.com/culture/two-tem ... s-flourish

Blatant violation of the lease agreement and not a single paisa paid to the temple and whats worse one of the violators is a xtian residential school!!!
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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

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Sachin wrote:
Personally, I am against the BJP tactic of causing deliberate unrest in all Southern states. It is always better to keep devotion & politics as two separate entities.
Commies wont be dismissed. The issue would be kept on slow boil till 2019. Protests can hardly be called unrest. Unrest is AAP's forte. The protest are not for vimochana samaram part 2. The issue is a very useful stick to drive a wedge through mahathugbandan. As the commies are now seen
as Anti hindu and every other political party are now rebranding themselves as shiv bhakt(INC)\krishna bhakt(SP) etc any alliance with these guys gives a anti hindu slant to the alliance.
What should be highlighted in all states not just south, is what is in store for Hindus if any alliance voted to power has a commie connection.
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when I tell my SHQ, some people will never learn... she would go: can you be specific or you have started! I'd then say, people of KL., cleverly.==

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https://twitter.com/jaypanicker/status/ ... 4373148672
Shocking visuals from Kerala of police forcibly detaining @BJP4Keralam Gen Secretary @surendranbjp who was on way to #Sabarimala Temple for Darshan. This is what emergency looks like, but our elitist Leftist media will not even discuss, let alone condemn.


https://twitter.com/SaanjuS/status/1063737113479430144
Anti-Hindu clan is trying to sabotage the #Sabarimala pilgrimage for many decades. Now communists join with them & executing all techniques to destroy one of the great temple in India.
High time for Hindu Hriday Samrat @narendramodi ji to intervene & #SaveSabarimala
@AmitShah

Emergency-like situation in Kerala. KP Sasikala Teacher, President HinduJagaranManch, has been forcefully taken into police custody. She was on the way to #Sabarimala following traditions. My pinned tweet shows the way activists were received with all honour by CPM police.
https://twitter.com/kumarnandaj/status/ ... 8238501889
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https://twitter.com/surnell/status/1064005335852163072
Suresh N
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#SaveSabarimalaTradition @BJP4Keralam General Secretary @surendranbjp remanded for 14 days (Non-Bailable)
He has been allowed by Magistrate to :
- retain Irumudikettu with him
- perform puja twice a day to Lord Ayyappa


#GoonsInKhaki #EmergencyInKerala
Few minutes ago. Milord in his infinite mercy allowed prayer to heathen god for 2 times a day.
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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

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18/11/2018 1030Hrs IST
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Pilgrimage at Sabari Mala is proceeding as normal it can be. Young women have not popped up. Newly introduced procedures at the hill top (by the police) have been inconveniencing the pilgrims a lot. The pilgrims are pushed back and forced to stay at places where they don't even have the basic facilities. The crowd now at Sabari Mala are within the manageable limits; but in the coming days it may change. The police procedures now at the hill top needs to be highlighted, as THIS IS ONE issue which a pilgrim would face and feel severly hurt. The political aspects can come after that. Travancore Devaswom Boards main worry is (still..) the expected revenue is not coming in; and they are blaming the police for this. Money..money.. money; that is all GoKL and TDB wants.

Sabari Mala crisis (news in Malayalam)
1. Very less crowd now at the hill top and at times the holy 18 steps is empty. This being the first sunday of the pilgrimage season, much more larger crowd was expected.
2. Pilgrims finding it difficult to offer kanikka/donation and do the Ghee abhisheka peacefully, thanks to the police procedures. The first part is worrying the TDB (no money), while the second part is harassing the pilgrims.
3. Police men wear boots when entering the temple for Malikapurathamma which too is against the traditions. Police go back after pilgrims complain.
4. Police is considering every pilgrim as a potential protestor and even denying some of them the right to enter the temple.
fanne wrote:Sachin Bhai - In simplistic term so I see this, Now that the BJP has fought along my side (and I think the battle is won while they are up to making a war here),let me back stab them?
So are you suggesting BJP should be given a chance to completely mess up Sabari Mala? There was a harthal yesterday and today BJP folks are planning to block the highways. Who are these moves going to hit? It would be the pilgrims themselves. Sabari Mala is now seeing the lowest footfall in its history, and blocking the journeys of the pilgrims is going to just worsen things. Do you agree with me on this point?

Surendran willing to go to jail to protect customs. And he has been remanded for 14 days (but again he can try getting a bail). What I read from the news papers is that BJP has come up with a roster system in which various leaders would take turns to reach Sabari Mala. If any one of them is not arrested; then they will continue to stay there for the maximum extent. If they are arrested and removed, the next party would move up :). My only request is that no one should make this entire pilgrimage a farce or a comedy show.
arvin wrote:Commies wont be dismissed. The issue would be kept on slow boil till 2019.
Yes, and they should be given a long rope to hang themselves :lol:. The commies are actually desperate to some how quell this Sabari Mala related issues. Where are BJP wants to leverage the advantage they have and push through. The commies have already started whining that it was because of various BJP & RSS actions, that they are now forced to make some drastic changes in procedures at the shrine. As I said commies are dreading the aspect of a BJP & RSS take over of the shrine.
The protest are not for vimochana samaram part 2
It certainly has not reached that level. Issues are now only mainly at Sabari Mala and surrounding area. But it may become a problem if things go the way they are going now. Protests etc. would become more in various parts of Kerala, and the already frusturated police may also make some foolish moves. The commies may also use their peacefool friends (like SDPI etc.) to hit back at the protestors.
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And Asianet is selectively showing swamys saying "we had a very comfortable darshan onlee". Yes, if your intention is to do like other temples like Guruvayoor, where you come in, see the idol for 300 milliseconds and leave, it is perfectly alright onlee.

Someone must move HC for human rights and right to worship.
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The secularist media will not show the attack on devotees of Ayyappa
https://janamtv.com/80113577/

Those who were peacefully prayers were attacked by CPM goons with stones and Beer bottles. Many devotees injured. CPM also attacked police personal who were guarding / giving protection to those attending prayers leading to injury to police personnel.

Stalinist rule in Kerala.
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mappunni wrote:Here is a video of a person requesting in Thamizh not to put money in the bhandaram

https://twitter.com/surnell/status/1063843246743461898
This is interesting, he touches all the points from Dileeps poster. So more and more people are thinking along the same lines. 8)
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