India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion

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Re: India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion

Postby Neshant » 24 Sep 2018 12:47

Those cops don't have clue what Khalistan is.

They thought it was meant to be an ethnic festival and we're flying the flag for good community relations.

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Postby Varoon Shekhar » 08 Nov 2018 22:04

Guys, by now everyone has heard of the CRA tax scam in Canada. The fraudsters were traced to India. Pretty serious swindle! But look at the comments to the CBC story. Some nasty stuff. Many of them are Paks and Chinese, but the majority seem to be Caucasian or of other ethnicities. I suppose the haters will use any excuse to hit out at India. Still, the sheer number of vicious remarks are upsetting. Should we expect this sort of stuff on a regular basis?

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Postby arshyam » 08 Nov 2018 22:56

Varoon Shekhar wrote:Should we expect this sort of stuff on a regular basis?

You mean some criminal will commit some crime online? You bet.

No offence, but what's the point of asking such rhetorical questions and hyperventilating over it? I don't know what this scam is about (hasn't made it to the news cycle here afaik), so can't speak to what some news portal comments say. Even if I did, I am sure these comments are at the same daily mail level of "they took aid from us and built statues!!" So, waste of time.

Came to this thread thinking some genuine news has come up. Sigh.

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Postby Varoon Shekhar » 09 Nov 2018 01:57

There wasn't a single mention of aid to India, among the hundreds of displayed comments. There were remarks like "India=scam", "Nuke them", "Use the money( from the fraud) to build toilets", and so on. The CRA( Canadian Revenue Agency) tax scam was big news in Canada. In the US, it was scamsters posing as IRS officers, demanding back taxes that were supposedly owed. I think it's fair to pose the question as to whether a major scam like this will negatively affect India.

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Re: India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion

Postby sunnyP » 11 Dec 2018 23:23

John Ivison: Long chilly, relations between Canada and India are now frigid under Liberals
The failure to upgrade an underperforming $8-billion-a-year trading relationship is a missed opportunity for the Trudeau government

One passage of the new report on Justin Trudeau’s trip to India deals with the public testimony given by Daniel Jean, the former national security adviser, before the parliamentary oversight committee on national security last April.

It reads: “As the NSIA (Jean) stated during his testimony: ‘***’.”

The words of the statement that the now-retired Jean gave to the committee were redacted — along with most of the other interesting bits of the report.

Redacting testimony that is already in the public domain would seem somewhat overzealous for a new committee intent on persuading Canadians about its integrity.

The liberal use of the black pen became the focus of question period in the House of Commons Tuesday.

Conservative MP Peter Kent suggested the heavy redaction was aimed at preventing Liberal embarrassment over the diplomatic incident that ensued when it emerged that Jaspal Atwal, a man once convicted of the attempted murder of an Indian politician, was invited to official Canadian events in Mumbai and New Delhi.

“The prime minister should get off his asterisk and release the findings,” said Kent.

Charlie Angus, the New Democrat MP, said Trudeau had put the interests of the Liberal Party ahead of the people of Canada by covering up the information.

Trudeau chided Angus for the use of “sanctimonious rhetoric,” a subject on which he has some proficiency. “Neither I, nor my office, requested or directed any redaction,” he said.

The truth is, it was not a distinguished debut by the committee. The report was redacted after it went to the Prime Minister’s Office on the advice of officials, according to Trudeau.

But it was sent back to the committee and its members, including senators, Conservatives and a New Democrat, apparently agreed to live with the contents as they appeared.

In the end, it hardly matters — the discerning reader can comprehend what’s going on, even when all six findings on the subject of “foreign interference” have been blacked out.

The report details how Jean attempted to counter a narrative in India that the Trudeau government is soft on Sikh separatism.

Back in April 2017, the chief minister of Punjab refused to meet defence minister Harjit Sajjan, after accusing him and four other Canadian ministers of being “Khalistanis.” (Khalistan is the would-be Sikh homeland in the Indian state of Punjab.)

Jean quarterbacked efforts to address Indian concerns about Canada’s role in the perceived rise of extremism.

He travelled to India to meet his counterpart and there were also delegations by the RCMP and CSIS, emphasizing Canada’s support for a strong and united India.

Despite those efforts, a rash of stories appeared in the Indian press alleging Canadian complicity in Sikh extremism. Trudeau did not help his case by attending a Sikh event in Toronto the previous year, which featured Khalistan flags and posters of Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, a Sikh extremist leader killed by Indian troops at the Golden Temple in Amritsar in 1984.

After Atwal’s presence at the event in Mumbai was revealed, Jean briefed Canadian media, including the National Post, suggesting elements in the Indian intelligence service might be motivated to embarrass Trudeau for being soft on Sikh terrorism. He said Atwal met with Indian diplomats from the consulate in Vancouver and Atwal’s own social media account showed he had visited the Indian External Affairs department the previous year.

Jean told the committee that he saw the briefings as “an important line of defence against foreign interference.”

The committee concluded in its report that the most compelling rationale for the almost unprecedented spectacle of the national security adviser briefing the press was that Jean was “deeply invested” in countering what he viewed as an orchestrated attempt to “shine a spotlight” on Atwal’s invitation, in order to embarrass the Canadian government.

That he had the support of the prime minister was apparent in comments Trudeau made in the House of Commons last March, when he said security officials say things to Canadians “because they know them to be true.”

The redacted report did not say the Indians had been playing games to undermine the Trudeau government — it did not have to. The inference is there.

Meanwhile, the Indians are miffed at what they see as pandering by the Canadian prime minister toward Sikh extremism, summed up in the headline of an article in Outlook magazine last year: “Khalistan 2: Made in Canada.”

The mood will scarcely have been improved by a story in the National Post last month that was circulated in the Indian media. It quoted an analysis by the Canadian Border Services Agency that revealed a 246 per cent increase in refugee claims made by Indian Sikhs, after gaining access to Canada using temporary resident visas issued by the government.

The CBSA report cited tensions between the Indian government and the country’s Sikh population over renewed support for separatism in Punjab. “Contemporary support has re-emerged around proposals for an unofficial referendum of the global Sikh diaspora in 2020 on the question of independence … As government pushback against Sikh community continues, fear of arbitrary arrest and abuse by authorities will likely prompt more Indian Sikhs to leave the country,” it said.

The upshot of such undiplomatic frankness is that Indian-Canadian relations, already chilly, have turned frigid.

The Canada-India relationship could have gone to the next level but we’ve bungled it

Ujjal Dosanjh

The Hindustan Times, a large English language newspaper, reported Tuesday a proposed visit by environment minister Catherine McKenna to India is off and that attempts to arrange a bilateral meeting between global affairs minister Chrystia Freeland and her Indian counterpart Sushma Swaraj have come to nothing. McKenna’s office said they received an invitation last July to visit India but declined because of “domestic commitments” and other international travel already lined up.

An Indian source told the paper relations were at a “standstill” and predicted it would take a change of government in New Delhi or Ottawa to put the relationship back on track. (Both countries have parliamentary elections next year).

Given the Trudeau government’s stated goal of diversifying its trading partners, the failure to upgrade an underperforming $8-billion-a-year trading relationship is a missed opportunity.

Ujjal Dosanjh, the former B.C. premier and Liberal cabinet minister, is a Sikh but no friend of the Khalistani movement that nearly killed him when he was assaulted with a metal bar in 1985. (He maintains his assailant was the same Jaspal Atwal who travelled to India. Atwal was charged with the attack but acquitted.)

Dosanjh believes Canada is paying the price for not convincing the Indian government that its Sikh ministers do not have Khalistani sympathies.

“We’ve turned a blind eye to a festering movement aimed at dismembering a friendly country,” he said. “It’s disappointing that the Canada-India relationship could have gone to the next level but we’ve bungled it.” ... r-liberals

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Re: India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 12 Dec 2018 20:56

Probably the Indian government, as a sop to overseas Punjabis, and also as part of the peace and healing process in Punjab, took many people off the banned, no-entry list. Atwal was one of those. Given the seriousness of their crimes, it's arguable whether they should have. But highly unlikely to be a conspiracy.

Dosanjh is a real voice of rationality and sanity among the ethnic Punjabi/Sikh community in Canada. Of course the Khalistani lunatics will hate him, and desire to silence him. May his tribe multiply!

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Postby kancha » 02 Jan 2019 13:48

Why Canada Will Bear the Brunt of the American War on Huawei

The arrest of Huawei’s chief financial officer, Meng Wanzhou, by Canadian authorities in Vancouver, on December 12 excited quite a furor in China. The United States, under an extradition treaty with Canada, ordered the arrest on the charge that Huawei, under Meng, had circumvented sanctions on Iran using a shell company in Hong Kong. The row is unfolding in the context of an acrimonious trade dispute between China and the United States, and intensifying strategic competition between the two. Nevertheless, Canada is likely to be the largest loser in this particular episode.

This raises the question of why Canada — not the United States — is the main target and brings us to the second factor: the prevailing tensions between the United States and China. China’s ability to retaliate against the United States is likely reined in by its desire to reach a resolution to the ongoing trade dispute between the two. It has become increasingly apparent that China’s economy is at a tenuous juncture in its development and that shocks potentially threaten the achievement of key goals.

Under the prevailing conditions, Canada can only hope that the international community will join it in declaring an unwavering commitment to the rule of law and tie China’s conduct in this instance to its reputation in the long-run, thus urging restraint. Such support, however, has been conspicuously absent, and Canada should prepare itself for the impending punishment.

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Postby sum » 02 Jan 2019 13:53

^^Not sure why Canada even took on such a risky move , knowing that China will come down with full force? Its not that currents govts in Canada and US are on great terms too for personal assurances to work

Canada did a similar thing during the Tehran hostage crisis by bearing the brunt of Iranian anger for helping smuggle the American diplomats out of Iran ( Argo is based on that)

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Postby ArjunPandit » 02 Jan 2019 21:21

^^that's the nature of being the bait, you have to go by the wishes of hunter. Who lives in the end is the question. What else does canada have to offer to world apart from natural resources, immigration, sermons and a flashy pm (although that is not exclusive to them, french, US and russian heads have their own fanbase)

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Postby ramana » 03 Jan 2019 03:00

I think relations with Canada will be frosty till Trudeau sees the light of all terrorism is bad and not ignore terrorism directed to India.
Since this won't happen expect the chill till Trudeau is voted out of office.

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Postby ShyamSP » 03 Jan 2019 03:25

Mexican economic wall :) Is it US response to China's Tariffs / to reduce dependency on China? ... tion-to-us
The Tax Incentive Decree for the Northern Border Region, which Lopez Obrador announced Saturday, would create a free zone that would stretch from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Coast and be more than 15 miles wide, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported.

Inside the zone, income taxes would be reduced by a third and Value Added Taxes on imported goods would be slashed in half, the minimum wage would increase 100 percent, and fuel prices would equal U.S. prices, the report said.

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Re: India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion

Postby ricky_v » 04 Jan 2019 20:22
Persaud’s defection set in motion far more than fresh elections and a likely change in government. It is potentially the first shot in a destabilizing fight between Guyana’s ethnically Indian and African communities to control the spoils from a tidal wave of oil money as production from the offshore Liza field begins in 2020. To exacerbate the situation, the collapsing socialist regime of neighboring Venezuela continues to assert claims on part of that oil and a third of Guyana’s national territory.

Leveraging the greater size of the Indo-Guyanese population relative to the Afro-Guyanese supporters of the PNC, (40% Indo-Guyanese versus 29% Afro-Guyanese according to the 2012 census), the PPP, under Bharat Jagdeo, held onto power without interruption from 1992 through 2015. During this time, the Indo-Guyanese came to have a particularly strong presence in the Guyanese bureaucracy, complementing their longstanding dominance of the business community, while the Guyanese Defense Force (GDF) and police have been dominated by Afro-Guyanese since their inception.

While the amount of oil is modest by global standards, once at target production levels (probably in 2025), Guyana will rival Mexico and Venezuela as an oil producing nation. The transformative potential is significant in light of the country’s small population of 750,000. The additional income from the salaries of oil workers, construction, contracts to support the development and operation of the fields, and the ripple effect on the Guyanese economy will be enormous. Some estimate that the country’s modest $3.6 billion GDP could triple in five years. Guyana’s capital Georgetown is already awash in new commercial real estate projects and other ventures in mere anticipation of that money. Complementing such benefits, royalties and other payments passed by Exxon to the Guyanese government could double the national budget.

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Postby Supratik » 04 Jan 2019 22:08

Guyana, Surinam and French-occupied Guyana has significant but sparsely populated land available. In Guyana and Surinam Indians form a significant portion of the population. About 75% of Hindus have remained Hindu over there. However, due to poor economic conditions many have been migrating to north AMerica. Oil wealth will develop the economy and will require immigrants. This is an excellent opportunity for Indians to settle the land. I have long argued for consulates of Guyana and Surinam in Eastern UP and BH where the majority Bhojpuri population comes from. This will facilitate cultural exchanges and inform people about the possibility of migration to these countries.

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Re: India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion

Postby sanjaykumar » 17 Jan 2019 05:33

I have pointed out previously one type of dog whistle racism.

Burnaby South Liberal candidate quits over her racial comments about NDP leader ... -1.4980537

The news article features a close up of this civilised Chinawoman, emphasising her alien physiognomy. Very racist of the media.


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