Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

khan · Post by **khan** » 12 Mar 2019 08:58

UlanBatori wrote:Do Pakis think an Indian Cold Start is coming? What has happened with the tanks escaping from Sialkot cantonment? Overall, the internet/comm shutdown and cellphone seizures in POK and Khyber-Pakthoonwa indicate something big brewing. Also tie into the reports from Balochistan last week (well after the air skirmish) of PA commandeering any transports and rushing out eastwards towards "LOC".

What would be the Indian reason given, for a massive ground invasion (because that is what is needed)? To push the LOC 30km and create a buffer zone? I am not able to understand the reason for the Paki panic, unless **THEY** are planning something which will trigger an all-out attack from India.

Frankly I cannot see India take any such all-out action under present circumstances. So what are the Pakis panicked about? Unless they have completely "lost it" and are going for their usual "Dilli chalo" or hoping to invade Srinagar/ cut off at Chaamb, there is only one other explanation:

Coup/ mutiny in progress.

India can do a China with Pakistan. Push the LOC a few km, and quickly pullback. This would be a H&D exercise.

Bishwa · Post by **Bishwa** » 12 Mar 2019 09:09

In the air raids, the PAF targeted a Brigade HQ, A Battn HQ and a Ammo Dump..

As per the twitter user bababanaras, recently a PA Ammo Dump was destroyed by Arty. Not sure how reliable this is.

Droneacharya · Post by **Droneacharya** » 12 Mar 2019 09:27

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news ... IQgaN.html

Pakistani air space restrictions continue along the country’s borders with India, the Rawalpindi headquartered 10 Corps along with a Special Forces brigade from Sialkot of the Pakistan Army have been deployed all along the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir.

The Pak Army deployment including radars and air defence system along the LoC was strengthened immediately after the February 14 Pulwama attack as they expected Indian retaliation similar to that of the surgical strike,”

Evil, cunning SDRE’s planning more environmental terrorism!?

sum · Post by **sum** » 12 Mar 2019 09:44

^^ Wonder how much is this costing them? Must be at the edge of their stockpiles and $$ if this continues another few weeks

All this heightened activity must be a goldmine for our EW assets to capture into their databases ( must be similar for their side too)

Bishwa · Post by **Bishwa** » 12 Mar 2019 10:01

I guess air space restrictions means they can fly their AWACS and refuellers without transponders... and ensures trigger happy SAMs do not create a Malaysian Airlines like incident

Has anyone seen their AWACS flying on flightradar?

khan · Post by **khan** » 12 Mar 2019 10:01

sum wrote:^^ Wonder how much is this costing them? Must be at the edge of their stockpiles and $$ if this continues another few weeks

All this heightened activity must be a goldmine for our EW assets to capture into their databases ( must be similar for their side too)

Not enough, ways must be found to force them to spend more money. Forcing them to scramble planes every hour, 24x7 would be a good place to start. Another way to do it, would be to send 1/3rd of a Corps on a loud tour of the border to make them think an attack that could happen anywhere on the border is eminent, or have the a frigate stalk their oil tankers within visual range

Also, apparently they got $4 billion in “loans” from China & UAE to tide them over the next few weeks. This is turning from Pakistan draining India by a thousand cuts to Pakistan draining China by a thousand cuts

prasannasimha · Post by **prasannasimha** » 12 Mar 2019 10:02

Another drone has been shot down. Seems so far 7 drones shot

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 12 Mar 2019 11:07

Almost on cue, it seems Singha theory was right , this has been shot down near Sri Ganganagar, why soo many drones, Pakis are upto something.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pakista ... ke-2005678

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 12 Mar 2019 11:19

Aditya_V wrote:Almost on cue, it seems Singha theory was right , this has been shot down near Sri Ganganagar, why soo many drones, Pakis are upto something.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pakista ... ke-2005678

It's about 150 km from Multan the north south road East of Indus. Withe a nice spider web of roads.

Imagine the possibilities from the Indian perspective.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 12 Mar 2019 11:37

Sorry if already posted.. but lot of information..
Balakot air strikes count revealed! 263 terrorists had assembled at JeM camp in Pak for training - EXCLUSIVE

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More proof of IAF Balakot airstrikes! Over 200 terrorists were at JeM camp, Pakistan Army men killed: Reports

More proof of IAF Balakot airstrikes emerges! Indian Air Force (IAF) strike in Balakot may have killed many terrorists and some Pakistan Army men, claim various TV reports. According to Times Now report, a total of 263 terrorists gathered at the JeM training facility at Balakot days ahead of IAF air strike. Among those terrorists, 18 were senior commanders and 83 were beginners. Around 91 terrorists were given advanced training and 25 terrorists came to learn special training. Four Pakistan Army men were killed during Balakot air strike carried out by IAF, claims an India Today TV report.

In a “non-military, preemptive strike”, Indian Air Force’s Dassault Mirage 2000s targeted training facilities of the dreaded terror outfit Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) in Pakistan’s Khyber Pakhtunkhwa region and killed a “large number” of terrorists in the wee hours of February 26. The TV report claims four Pakistan soldiers were killed in the pre-dawn strike by IAF fighter jets. Some reports have also claimed evidence that one of Pakistan Air Force’s fighter jets that violated India’s airspace was an F-16 fighter jet and that it crashed across the Line of Control (LoC).

A tape of one of the local residents has emerged, narrating the events of IAF airstrike. The person in the tape played out by India Today TV says that a building was damaged and the incident happened in the wee hours of February 26. Apart from this, a police officer in Pakistan’ Bhimber has also resportedly confirmed that Pakistan Air Force’s F-16 fighter jet crashed on February 27. Other TV reports reveal that a few bodies were burnt and dumped by Pakistani authorities.

According to a Republic TV report, authorities in Pakistan suspended internet services in Balakot to check circulation of images and videos even as Pakistan Army took away mobile phones. Bodies were disposed of in Kunhar river. Those who survived the attack were taken to the Waziristan-Afghanistan border.<snip> //

MeshaVishwas · Post by **MeshaVishwas** » 12 Mar 2019 12:00

prasannasimha wrote:Another drone has been shot down. Seems so far 7 drones shot

Saar, any links?
First one was a Spider meal, second was claimed by her majesty Rambha, three and four were Bofors victims on the same day, IIRC.
Five, Six and Seven ?

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 12 Mar 2019 12:05

It the 4th one in Sri Ganganagar. I know one each from Kutch and j&k.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 12 Mar 2019 12:45

Are there any pics of these Drones, what type Ch4 Wing Long etc?

MeshaVishwas · Post by **MeshaVishwas** » 12 Mar 2019 13:00

Aditya_V wrote:Are there any pics of these Drones, what type Ch4 Wing Long etc?

Could be the Falco too

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Mar 2019 13:06

Audio Take proving Strike killed Terrorist

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Mar 2019 13:27

Bishwa wrote:I guess air space restrictions means they can fly their AWACS and refuellers without transponders... and ensures trigger happy SAMs do not create a Malaysian Airlines like incident

Has anyone seen their AWACS flying on flightradar?

yes plenty of times a saab2000 spotted all over including circling over pindi.

no signs of the feared Y8 karakorums. maybe they dont work.

MeshaVishwas · Post by **MeshaVishwas** » 12 Mar 2019 13:41

Singha wrote:
Bishwa wrote:I guess air space restrictions means they can fly their AWACS and refuellers without transponders... and ensures trigger happy SAMs do not create a Malaysian Airlines like incident

Has anyone seen their AWACS flying on flightradar?
yes plenty of times a saab2000 spotted all over including circling over pindi.

no signs of the feared Y8 karakorums. maybe they dont work.

Their An26 rip offs with birather dish have no ability to directly communicate real time with Link 16 enabled Ayf Sola and Erieye.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Mar 2019 13:51

but can atleast manage the bandars and talk via radio with f16/mirages.

I have a feeling they dont work at all.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 12 Mar 2019 14:17

How many TSP illusions must break. First they went nuke nude.

Now they are AEW nude as well.

Are we about to learn that TSP is solah nude as well.

SidSoma · Post by **SidSoma** » 12 Mar 2019 14:24

Flightradar seems to show civilian activity around Islamabad Lahore and karachi

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 12 Mar 2019 14:36

Check out CSN600R on Flight radar, seems like an unusual China Southeast Airlines flight which has left Islamabad, I think don't the CHine CPEC workers are statying put seeing the Blackouts and Airspace restrictions, they are not Pakistani Awam

abhishekm · Post by **abhishekm** » 12 Mar 2019 14:39

SidSoma wrote:Flightradar seems to show civilian activity around Islamabad Lahore and karachi

In the meantime, Pak Bahria is still all at sea. Forced to survive on fish no doubt and very soon on cow urine like the evil yindoos. If there's anyone other than Pak Fizzle-ya more terrified of India it's likely to be their navy!

https://theprint.in/defence/pakistans-e ... ot/204122/

SidSoma · Post by **SidSoma** » 12 Mar 2019 14:46

Check out SQB02ERA at Lahore. Turns out it is an unmarked Boeing 747, belonging to Turkish company My Cargo Airlines. This company is partly owned by Chinese owners. Interesting.

prasannasimha · Post by **prasannasimha** » 12 Mar 2019 14:52

Buraq drones were downed

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 12 Mar 2019 15:01

Ok , seems PA/PAF is just doing it to test our Air defense systems, hope we can take these out cheaply while checking our capabilities.

khan · Post by **khan** » 12 Mar 2019 15:06

I get the feeling that time is running out for the Pakistanis. They have not been showing irreversible progress towards dismantling the terror infrastructure. After giving international diplomacy a few weeks to work, India is now justified in taking out a few more targets.

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 12 Mar 2019 15:15

Saar the central govt is already lame duck

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 12 Mar 2019 15:26

Narad wrote:Saar the central govt is already lame duck

So was the Vajpayee government during Kargil. Didn't stop them from kicking Pakistani butt.

The point is the government must govern.

khan · Post by **khan** » 12 Mar 2019 15:38

Pratyush wrote:
Narad wrote:Saar the central govt is already lame duck

So was the Vajpayee government during Kargil. Didn't stop them from kicking Pakistani butt.

The point is the government must govern.

Not only that, Election Commission code of conduct doesn’t cover External affairs. Fixing the Pakistan problem is perhaps the only policy initiative the Government can push until the new Government is sworn in.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Mar 2019 15:41

"lame duck" just as rightist/leftist is a western construct. lets be honest, in which context did we first hear that word for the first time in our lives? not in india I am sure.

GOI need not hold ourselves hostage to such fake jails no matter how much the oppn wails about it.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 12 Mar 2019 16:11

Besides any strike by the government will only serve to enhance its electability.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 12 Mar 2019 16:40

Pakistan air force, army on high alert; lines border with F-16 fighters, troops

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Mar 2019 17:28

defence minster, arun jaitley and ravi shankar prasad have made some statements.

The F 16 pilot was beaten up by local villagers in Pakistan and he probably died in hospital @nsitharaman. First time somebody has put this on record in India. Big statement by the defence minister #AajTakSurakshaSabha @aajtak @IndiaToday
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India had specific intelligence that new terror trainees & old trainers of #JeM were at #Balakot. Strike based on specific intelligence. PAF F-16 had two pilots. Where are they? IAF MiG-21 shot down F-16. Pak army doesn't accept its pilot became shaheed. Sad story: @nsitharaman

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Considered decision of @narendramodi govt: If there is terror then there will be consequences for terror sponsors: @rsprasad on #AajTakSurakshaSabha. Pak must arrest & prosecute #HafizSaeed & #MasoodAzhar for improving ties with India. If there is more terror, then more strikes.

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#Balakot is not linked to #Pulwama. Intelligence agencies had input about terrorists being prepared for suicide attacks in India. @PMOIndia took the decision. Pak response was a botched up operation by Pak. Every Indian must be proud of #IAF: @arunjaitley at #AajtakSurakshaSabha

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Pak economy in a shambles. 13th time Pak has gone to #IMF. China and Turkey also giving mid way statements. #OIC welcomed @SushmaSwaraj as Pak sulked. Pak isolated. Bangladesh has India as friend & progressing. Pak has been left way behind. #SurakshaSabha on @aajtak @IndiaToday

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Pak army aura was completely dismantled & destroyed post #Balakot airstrikes. Pak army acknowledging Air strikes at 4.45 am showed Pak army runs country: @arunjaitley tells @rahulkanwal at #SurakshaSabha. Live on @aajtak & @IndiaToday.

Dileep · Post by **Dileep** » 12 Mar 2019 17:42

There is no concept of "lame duck" executive in India (well, in relation to election onlee. Not not any other factor). Even an interim PM hold full executive authority accountable to the parliament (The President and Rajya Sabha in case the Lok Sabha is dissolved). It is just a convention that interim PMs do not make policy decisions.

khan · Post by **khan** » 12 Mar 2019 18:11

#Balakot is not linked to #Pulwama. Intelligence agencies had input about terrorists being prepared for suicide attacks in India. @PMOIndia took the decision. Pak response was a botched up operation by Pak. Every Indian must be proud of #IAF: @arunjaitley at #AajtakSurakshaSabha

IMO, this is the most significant Tweet. So, the Modi Government is keeping the option open to hit another target if Pakistan doesn’t show steps towards irreversibly dismantling terror operations.

I am sure this has been communicated to everyone trying to “mediate”, which is why there is so much pressure on Pakistan & Pakistan is so hyper-mobilized trying to deter this.

This will obviously play very well in the elections. With Pulwama, the Bakistanis tried to corner PM Modi before the elections and now are like the dog that finally caught the car

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Mar 2019 18:17

https://theprint.in/defence/pakistans-e ... ot/204122/

PN has ran away to sea after march26

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UBCNN should check the nooks and corners of arabi harbours to see if they have taken shelter in there.

nam · Post by **nam** » 12 Mar 2019 18:26

News that DM has said we hit 3 targets? can anyone confirm?

Ghafoor was trying to cover up Muzzaffarabad raid on tweeter and typing fast when the Balakot must have been hit.

He did not inform us about Balakot strike..

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 12 Mar 2019 18:27

khan wrote:
JayS wrote:^^ Such things keep happening on daily basis. We hear about losses on our side, because we dont hide deaths of our Soldiers. When India counter attacks and Pakis die, but they simply suppress the matter and India doesn't have any reason to publicise it. So you wont hear about it. Don't even hope to hear about it. But be assured, IA doesn't keep quite as much as we may think. Its gives back in kind, every single time. Lets leave it at that.

BTW he didn't really mean three air strikes, its slip of tongue. He meant three cross border raid, including Uri SS and Balakot strike.
I really wish GOI announced these things & humiliated the Bakis. H&D is more important to them than their soldiers lives.

Just saw citation of Shourya Chakra awarded to Captain Abhay Sharma, SM. from 1 Para SF. Google and read. I hope you get the drift with it.

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 12 Mar 2019 18:28

nam wrote:News that DM has said we hit 3 targets? can anyone confirm?

Ghafoor was trying to cover up Muzzaffarabad raid on tweeter and typing fast when the Balakot must have been hit.

He did not inform us about Balakot strike..

In addition to Balakot, two targets near Muzzafarabad and Chakoti were hit. I think IAF's official statement has the mention of these places. Don't remember if the first GOI statement had it in it.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 12 Mar 2019 19:34

Singha wrote:defence minster, arun jaitley and ravi shankar prasad have made some statements.
The F 16 pilot was beaten up by local villagers in Pakistan and he probably died in hospital @nsitharaman. First time somebody has put this on record in India. Big statement by the defence minister #AajTakSurakshaSabha @aajtak @IndiaToday
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UBCN says: HA!!

Now that we have demonstrated our accuracy, hope all you doubting-pakis can see y u should believe all our statements. Diss us @ ur peril.

Follow the lead of the PN: Exit now; avoid the rush later.