2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

mmasand · Post by **mmasand** » 30 May 2019 18:17

Rahul M wrote:
gauravsh wrote:S Jaishankar joining the cabinet. He has a good hand on China.
source ?

S Jaishankar, Ex-Foreign Secretary, To Join PM Modi Government: Sources

Picklu · Post by **Picklu** » 30 May 2019 18:19

I was not particularly happy with Sadanand Gowda ji and RS Prasad ji, but looks like they will be retained in the cabinet.

If the grapevine is to be believed, even NaMo is not happy with these 2 but won't rock the boat.

Dumal · Post by **Dumal** » 30 May 2019 18:55

Saw a snippet JD(U) will not join the cabinet. Any idea why?

Picklu · Post by **Picklu** » 30 May 2019 19:01

Sush Ma may not be part of cabinet per republic tv

Picklu · Post by **Picklu** » 30 May 2019 19:01

Dumal wrote:Saw a snippet JD(U) will not join the cabinet. Any idea why?

Most probably for not getting the Railways

EswarPrakash · Post by **EswarPrakash** » 30 May 2019 19:17

Dumal wrote:Saw a snippet JD(U) will not join the cabinet. Any idea why?

Apparently, they were not given more than one "berth" in the cabinet

Primus · Post by **Primus** » 30 May 2019 19:19

Modi Ji taking oath right now, brings tears to my eyes.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 30 May 2019 19:36

very timely article

All Is Not Lost For The Khan Market Gang Yet
by
Vinod Sharma
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https://swarajyamag.com/politics/all-is ... t-gang-yet

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 May 2019 19:54

Javdekar "i didn't change nuttin, no textbooks even" is also back.

EswarPrakash · Post by **EswarPrakash** » 30 May 2019 20:00

Karan M wrote:Javdekar "i didn't change nuttin, no textbooks even" is also back.

Do we have a list of portfolios yet for the ministers?

Primus · Post by **Primus** » 30 May 2019 20:05

Is there any projection on who is getting what?

I suspect that with several ministers the BJP leadership has little choice, it is for optics, vote-banks, internal pressures and as yet unknown reasons. IMHO as long as key portfolios are kept with those with the capability and strength to continue down the path of progress, we will be alright. Defense, Finance and MHA are key, closely followed by Education/HRD, Energy, Industry, Transport and Railways. I know we always say MEA is very important, but that policy I believe is mostly dictated by the PMO and for domestic consumption it may not be that critical. For International relations, yes.

But I may be wrong here. We shall find out soon enough what is going to happen.

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 30 May 2019 20:07

Pure speculation: any chance there will be a "Dipty PM" this time ?

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 30 May 2019 20:18

Picklu, what Shivsankar joining cabinet has to do with POK?

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 30 May 2019 20:40

My guess is that Jaishankar will replace Sushma as EAM.

Rajnath, Gadkari, Sitaraman will probably keep their current jobs.

I think Amit may get finance, or switch with Goyal for railways.

Most of the others may continue in their current jobs. Will be interesting to see what the new people will get.

Allies: Sawant may replace Geete in the same job. JDU is not in the goremint. Will be interesting to see what AIADMK and other parties get.

Y I Patel · Post by **Y I Patel** » 30 May 2019 20:42

My hunch is that Jaishankar will get defense, not EA

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 30 May 2019 20:49

Y I Patel wrote:My hunch is that Jaishankar will get defense, not EA

That would be a waste of his talents IMHO

I think NaMo needs him to be the face of Indian diplomacy. He is also good at hard negotiations

With Jaitley gone, Jaishankar can also fill the role of suave, smooth, English-speaking face of the cabinet

srin · Post by **srin** » 30 May 2019 20:54

No Suresh Prabhu or Rajyavardhan Rathore or ~~Gen VK Singh~~or Jayant Sinha

Updated after below post.

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 30 May 2019 20:57

VK Singh has taken oath

TOI website is running a good live commentary of the swearing-in ceremony

srin · Post by **srin** » 30 May 2019 20:59

Kakkaji wrote:VK Singh has taken oath

TOI is running a good live commentary

Thanks for the correction. Didn't see him in the minister area.

Dumal · Post by **Dumal** » 30 May 2019 21:04

Kakkaji wrote:
Y I Patel wrote:My hunch is that Jaishankar will get defense, not EA
That would be a waste of his talents. et

Sounds like in cases like VK Singh and Jaishankar there may be concerns about conflict of interest due to their prior offices held.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 30 May 2019 21:04

srin wrote:No Suresh Prabhu or Rajyavardhan Rathore or ~~Gen VK Singh~~or Jayant Sinha

Updated after below post.

Out of curiosity, did Jayant Sinha fall out of favor because of his own doing or foul mouth Y Sinha, or perhaps perception on too much western soft corner (20+ year residence in khan land)?

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 30 May 2019 21:26

Cabinet will be expanded soon, I guess. Jayant Sinha will get it then. He has defended against his dad well. Unless his performance as a minister is bad, he will be inducted I guess.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 30 May 2019 21:27

srin wrote:
Rahul M wrote: source ?
Republic TV. Watch live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX9_YKaQC9w

Also, claiming that Amit Shah will be new FM

I think AS will be a bad choice for FM. He should be in either Defense or Home.

What is the status of Nirmala Sitharaman?

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 May 2019 21:32

Shah as FM or DM? No, please. Too vital to be left to a part time minister.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 30 May 2019 21:33

Why is Rajyavardhan Rathore not there? He was doing well as sports minister.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 30 May 2019 21:33

Shah cannot be President as one man one post.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 May 2019 21:34

Supratik wrote:Why is Rajyavardhan Rathore not there? He was doing well as sports minister.

He will be Rajasthan CM.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 30 May 2019 21:38

Who will be President? Suni Deodhar or HBS?

Vamsee · Post by **Vamsee** » 30 May 2019 21:39

One big surprise is S. Jaishankar. Still not able to figure out why he is elevated to such a high position!

Vamsee · Post by **Vamsee** » 30 May 2019 21:40

Supratik wrote:Who will be President? Suni Deodhar or HBS?

Saw somewhere that BJP President need to be a member for at least 15 years. So that probably rules out HBS.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 May 2019 21:41

Re: Jaishankar IMHO
Belief he will manage foreign relations with suave demeanor and being what they expect rather than a Gadkari or Yogi type.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 30 May 2019 21:43

Jaishankar will be MEA.

Sridhar K · Post by **Sridhar K** » 30 May 2019 21:46

Met my father's cousin who retired from Pigeons Adda. He was the one who told me that Modi Shah will come back with some gr8 slog over hitting.

He gave a surprising tit bid that 60 PC of babudom is pro modi which was surprising to me. He apparently did Japa 3 hrs daily for Modi victory over the election season

nandakumar · Post by **nandakumar** » 30 May 2019 21:46

chanakyaa wrote:
srin wrote:No Suresh Prabhu or Rajyavardhan Rathore or ~~Gen VK Singh~~or Jayant Sinha

Updated after below post.
Out of curiosity, did Jayant Sinha fall out of favor because of his own doing or foul mouth Y Sinha, or perhaps perception on too much western soft corner (20+ year residence in khan land)?

I think his wife is in some oversight capacity with a foreign fund house. Remember even before Modi took over as PM in 2014 she was fund manager for one of Oppenheimer fund dedicated to India investments. Too much of conflict of interest. Also, he is one of the light weight MPs. Can't win a seat of his own. Nor is he a grassroots Sanghi worker.

Vamsee · Post by **Vamsee** » 30 May 2019 21:52

Why do we need Jaishankar as EAM? Nirmala Sitaraman ji would have been perfect fit. Direct entry in CCS? Currently there are 2 open slots in CCS. That of Arun Jaitley and Sushma Swaraj. One of the 2 will probably be taken by Amit Shah. Will the other one go to JaiShankar? Truly surprising decision if it happens.

Picklu · Post by **Picklu** » 30 May 2019 21:53

Maneka Gandhi and Suresh Prabhu are not there as well.

I think the facilitation of the Gaw-Rakshaks went against Jayant. NaMo doesn't want someone too confrontational in your face in administration, the same reason he shifted SI from HRD. He prefers someone who will quietly do the work under radar.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 30 May 2019 21:59

Jayant Sinha did good work with Udaan scheme.

Picklu · Post by **Picklu** » 30 May 2019 22:00

Supratik wrote:Picklu, what Shivsankar joining cabinet has to do with POK?

Not ShivShankar, Jaishankar.

The below is from the chaiwala's panwala, so TIFWIW

He has some very interesting ideas about PoK and Baluchistan that resonates with Doval.

But unlike Doval, he just doesn't want to limit himself only causing trouble to Pak ; as a career diplomat, he wants to completely rectify that past mistake of ours.

And as someone recently mentioned, NaMo dreams of a parmanent solution of Kashmir.

Now make whatever you wish to make

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 30 May 2019 22:02

Picklu wrote:But unlike Doval, he just doesn't want to limit himself only causing trouble to Pak ; as a career diplomat, he wants to completely rectify that past mistake of ours.

And as someone recently mentioned, NaMo dreams of a parmanent solution of Kashmir.

Now make whatever you wish to make

srin · Post by **srin** » 30 May 2019 22:02

I wonder who will be speaker ?