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State-owned HAL has filed one bid on its own and one with Russian Helicopters for the Naval Utility Helicopter. The Indian Navy wants to purchase 111 NUHs.
State-owned HAL has filed one bid on its own and one with Russian Helicopters for the Naval Utility Helicopter. The Indian Navy wants to purchase 111 NUHs.
Looks like the protest too much as they want to do screwdriver giri withRakesh wrote:Private players cry foul as HAL submits 2 bids for mega Navy chopper deal
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State-owned HAL has filed one bid on its own and one with Russian Helicopters for the Naval Utility Helicopter. The Indian Navy wants to purchase 111 NUHs.
So at-least navy has choice of two helicopters both HAL associated.Of the international OEMs, Leonardo is currently blacklisted. The Russians are also in the race, but the Navy doesn’t seem too keen on the Kamov choppers. Bell Helicopter’s Bell 429 and Sikorsky’s S-76 have certain non-compliance issues with respect to the Navy’s specific requirements. The companies could carry out changes, but this would involve expenditure.
The front-runner seems to be Airbus, which is trying to push AS565, a platform that’s more than 30 years old.
Totally agree. Throwing money at others only makes India weaker and not stronger.abhik wrote:Why should designed and manufactured in India Dhruv have to compete against screwdriver-giri solutions? Beyond being a corporate welfare program + another avenue for paying protection money.
SUPER HORNET VS RAFALE MARINE
Beyond the 36 jets that the air force has ordered, the French side is confident about its prospects for a deal with the Indian Navy, which is trying to find new jets for the indigenous aircraft carrier under construction in Kochi. While the navy has used Russian MiG 29 K jets till now, it wants to progress to a new aircraft due to several technical problems with the fleet. The tenders for the contract are expected to be issued shortly but it is likely to be a straight contest between the Boeing-made F/A-18 Super Hornet and the Rafale Marine. The French Navy believes that it has demonstrated its ability to operate from foreign carriers. “The Rafale went to the US and was deployed on American aircraft carriers,” said Boidevezi. “The Rafale was perfectly integrated with the US and has shown its capability to work with non-French platforms.”
Both the F/A 18 and Rafale Marine fighter jets have been operating from aircraft carriers but are rigged for catapult launches. This may pose problems for India as the navy uses the ski jump system, which involves a runway that curves upward. Sources said that extensive tests and software analysis have been conducted by the French side on the Rafale to show that it can operate with a meaningful load from ski jump carriers. This data has also been shared with the Indian Navy that is currently drafting technical requirements for the new fighter competition. Boeing, which makes the Super Hornet, has also shared this data with the Indian Navy. Once the requirements are firmed up and permissions obtained from the ministry of defence, tenders will be issued.
Great news. Any news about the AAR capability they planned on giving it?Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1124355069283987456 ----> Indian Navy cleared by MoD to procure 10 additional Kamov-31 AEW helicopters from Russia at a cost of ₹3,600 crore.
Supposed to have excellent A2S resolution... Perhaps it will enable the but to strike surface threats?Aditya_V wrote:Wonder what do the Dornier 228 use the EL 2032's for?
I think it might be due to service requirements. Derby was transferred because with harrier retirement there was no platform in navy left that could use the missiles. Where as 2032 could be retrofitted to the donier and the IN might have been hesitant to transfer useable assets to another service(IAF) especially with financial constraintsAditya_V wrote:Hmm, but shows there were enough differences that it was not considered worthwhile to use these 11 radars on LCA Tejas
LCA has Hybrid MMR not EL/M-2032. Indian antenna, gimbal and Elta backend.Aditya_V wrote:Hmm, but shows there were enough differences that it was not considered worthwhile to use these 11 radars on LCA Tejas
There are only 2 squadrons for 45 MiG-29K/KU in the IN. Some twin-seaters may get allocated to the training squadrons as well. Fleet-wide reserves may be assigned more airframes too.yensoy wrote:3 carriers
1 squadron (16) per carrier
2 trainers per squadron
1 spare per squadron
16+2+1 = 19
19 x 3 = 57
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According to figures presented in those meeting (a) 20 per cent of the fleet, i.e. some 39 Su-30MKIs, are undergoing “first line” and “second line” maintenance or inspections at any time, which is the IAF’s responsibility; (b) Another 11-12 per cent of the fleet is undergoing major repair and overhaul by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL); and (c) 13-14 per cent of the fleet is grounded, awaiting major systems or repairs --- the technical terms is: “aircraft on ground”.
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Ramana, some corrections to factual inaccuracies.ramana wrote:[
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F-18 is a 1970s plane with lipstick on it.
its the loser of the F-16 light weight fighter and was called F-17.
The USN decided they will take it and navalize it. And became the F-18.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7625&p=2361750#p2361750Barath wrote:As a newish multi-role it was good enough to replace the F14 of Top Gun fame and a couple of others.
Saar you are carrying coal to castlefield. No one else knows more, FWIIW.Barath wrote:Ramana, some corrections to factual inaccuracies. ........... ..ramana wrote:[
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F-18 is a 1970s plane with lipstick on it.
its the loser of the F-16 light weight fighter and was called F-17.
The USN decided they will take it and navalize it. And became the F-18.
True. Wing drop problem in development, and canted pylons are reminders that design isn't straightforward.Karan M wrote:"F18E/F Superhornet is not the F18 Hornet"
Arguably worse aerodynamics (infamous wing fences) though a much larger aircraft with all its attendant advantages/disadvantages.
What govt could possibly do is put..
But there's certainly an argument to have a big segment invested in long term growth and evolution of indian fighter aircraft..
To become a Growler/NGJ operator would require the same level of interoperability, technology and data sharing and security partnership as the F-35 would which would likely include a joint team at best or a one way sharing of EW, ELINT and SIGINT data for the threat libraries at worst. Without the MDFs the NGJ is going to be quite useless and without constantly building and refreshing those MDFs it will not be as potent as desired. To do this requires a joint lift no smaller than what the F-35 partners are doing by embedding their EW teams with USAF EW teams working on its F-35s. I don’t see this happening with a Non NATO or other close security partner to be honest.Barath wrote: with reasonable speculation on getting a Growler offer, too.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ng-440676/"We've done a lot of simulation work with the Indian Navy to better understand their requirements and we fill comfortable that the Super Hornet can operate from all their carriers, both the ones fielded today and the ones in the future... We think we can move around the deck, be very mission capable with a relevant weapons load-out and fuel load-out to give the Navy what they need... The Super Hornet as built today can operate from Indian carriers."
Oh, I agree. I believe the Rafale is the natural fit for the IAF's MRCA requirement. Especially so after the 36 unit order. Considering the amount spent on setting up all the infrastructure to support the Rafale fleet in India, on India Specific Requirements and all the attendant commonality benefits, it is the most obvious choice.brar_w wrote:I never said it precludes it . All I said was that it is more suitable for the INs requirement than IAFs MMRCA and makes sense there vs trying to pick it from fighters that don’t have to carry naval requirements or are already in IAF service (or will be) like Rafale