Guys, have you noticed one thing. While Pakis in Indian mufti like Abdullah and Mehbooba are squealing, the harried rats have been silent. At least it seems so. And I think it makes sense. Because they have never accepted Indian constitution anyway, so however much they are mighty p!ssed that their relevance will now be confined to the dustbin, at least their public silence is consistent because they cannot in breath say they don't accept Indian constitution and in the next opposes any constitutional move that India makes.
However, the Paki reaction and melt down is very puzzling. Frankly, I would have thought that they would have issued a terse statement along the lines of "Kashmir is disputed" and it doesn't make any difference what India does.
Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
^^^ read Vajpayee’s motion to get rid of 370 from 1968.
https://books.google.co.in/books?id=87k ... 70&f=false
https://books.google.co.in/books?id=87k ... 70&f=false
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
For Bart and those interested: A series of posts from 2003 . . .
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The theorem of Pakeeness:
It began with an question by kashmal_a who, like all those who had bothered to notice Pakees, saw the spectacular nature of Pak stupidity (which in Pakistan is called tactical brilliance), and plaintively asked:
"isn't there a limit to how low Pakee IQ can get?"
After much cogitating and ruminating (being Yindoo), the question was answered by Alok_N with his famous Aloks Law of Pakeeness also known as the First Law of Pakeeness which states:
First Law of Pakiness:
Given any two Pakees, there exists a third Pakee with IQ lower than either.
Later however, after some more ruminating and cogitating (lessons in which are available to Pakees from any Yindoo, send cash only please, no cheques or Pakee currency accepted), it was realised that:
the theorem is not truly applicable if the set of Pakees is finite ...
After much discussion, flame wars, trolling and general mayhem within the hallowed portals of BRs Pakee Study Group, this shortcoming was set aside by the following observation which became the equally famous Second Law of Pakeeness, viz:
Second Law of Pakeeness:
Pakees reproduce even dumber Pakees.
Note: My records do not show who gets the credit for this - naturally enough, since I'm writing this account of the discovery of these laws, I cunningly take full credit for it. On the other hand, one of our more famous Pakee experts on the forum is BRs admin Shiv. Justice demands that he get something added to his name for his long services to Pakee studies as well as a sort of Lifetime Achievement Award.
But, like any good academic I don't give a stuff for justice when first claim credit is at stake. However . . . as a long time BRite I'm also well aware that kissing up to mods and admins pays dividends in the long run - consequently I've arbitrarily added Shivs name to this Law and its therefore known as the Kgoan-Shiv (alphabetical order onlee) Law of Pakiness. Or just the Second Law if you prefer to risk denying ADMIN and MODERATOR Shiv and lil ol' me our just desserts.
At this stage, another long time researcher in Pakeeness, Rye, stepped in to put the final touch on the Three Laws of Pakiness.
In his own words:
"Very lovely theorems, though, as people say, the pigeonhole principle would falsify the theorem when the number of Pakees is finite. After much thought, chai and biskooth, the following additional axiom may remove the weakness people mention"
Third Law of Pakiness:
A Pakees IQ decreases in a strictly monotonic manner over time.
Ths is also known as Rye's Law for obvious reasons. Rye went on to add:
This nicely explains the downward IQ spiral that we can see in Pakistan, and also fixes the problem with the previous theorem, since we can pick any two Pakees, and during any interval, the IQ of another Paki would have reached a new minimum. Q.E.D.
But long time researchers in Pakeeness were not satisfied. After another long bout of runimations, cogitations, chai, biskoot, flame wars and the odd banning of some Pakee trolls, some non-troll Pakees and some non-jingo Yindoos just for the heck of it, researchers came up with what is sometimes called the Zeroth Law of Pakeeness, or JRJ's Law, but is better known as the BR Axiom of Pakeeness:
BR's Axiom of Pakeeness:
Pakees are Stupid
Coupling the BR Axiom (or Zeroth Law if you prefer) with the Three Laws of Pakeeness enables any Pakee expert or, quite marvellously even a non-expert, to predict any Pakee behaviour, under any condition, in any circumstance to all orders of magnitude and any degree of accuracy with any data.
This is a remarkable achievement. It is crucial to note that it works with any data. Even with no data, Pakee data, US State Dept data or data from a South Asia Expert from a Beltway think-tank and; quite mindbogglingly even with data from the BBC, the Hindu and the Times of India!!
Their wide applicability is truly staggering.
Of course there are other subsidiary rules. I mention two quite famous ones, known as the Two Corollaries of Pakeeness, the timeless N^3 Solution to the Pakee Problem and JEM's Rule because they are quite important in their own right, and in a practical sense, probably more important than the Laws themselves.
Corollary 1 - N^3 Solution to Pakee Problem:
Give Peace a Chance. Destroy Pakistan, NOW.
Corollary 2 - JEMs Rule:
Discussing anything with a Pakee is like wrestling with a pig. At the end of it you end up getting tired, frustrated and filthy while the pig has had a ball.
Note 1: From a historical perspective these two corolaries, the N^3 Solution and JEM's Rule, are actually among the oldest of all the Pakee laws. In fact JEM's Rule was instrumental in BR's success as a largely Pakee Free Zone.
Both these can be shown to be derivable, rigorously, from the Axiom and the Three Laws.
Note 2: The N^3 Solution was discovered by one of the earliest researchers and a pioneer in the field of Pakeeness Studies. It still remains the most favoured theoretical solution of all and; a vast amount of research has been done on this solution. See for example the published literature by the group of researchers known as the "Dash to the Indus" crowd, or the "Give Reconstruction Contracts for PakeeLand to Haliburton and Bechtel Immediately" people.
Note 3: While there is no doubt as to N^3's authorship of his Corollary, there's no real evidence that JEM was responsible for the Rule. However, again using Author priviliges and my ardent desire to suck up to admins at whatever opportunity, I arbitrarily nominated him as the author. This may change in the future depending on which admin I wish to kiss up to at any given time.
Other researchers on Pakeeness, wildly jealous at the success of these legendary names, have also attempted to put in their two bits. The afore mentioned kashmal_a for example has published the Kashmal Conjecture:
"The half life of Paki IQ does not exceed the Crescent co-efficient (duration of one lunar rotation divided by duration of one lunar revolution) multipled by the duration of one sidereal day".
This however has not yet been proven, is not really well known, is not even remembered by anyone and no one, including me, really knows what it means. I include it here simply because it sounds so crash hot.
Another wildly jealous member came up with the Sparsh Theorem: In full here is his submission:
Kgoan, I would like to humbly submit the following portmanteau theorem for your consideration. It models the evolutionary dynamics of Packee IQ over time in the most general possible manner and the original three laws fall out as corollaries. Pesh hai:
Let P : [0, infinity) -- [0, M] be a real valued function of a real valued time variable t and let P(t) denote the collective Packee IQ at time t. Then P(t) has the following properties:
(1) P is uniformly bounded above by M.
(2) P is continuously differentiable on [0, infinity) except on a countable set of points t* = {t0, t1, t2, ...} where it has jump discontinuities.
(3) dP(t)/dt 0 on [0, infinity) \ t*.
(4) For any tn in t*, P(tn-) = P* and P(tn+) = P* + dn* where dn* 0.
Comments:
As we can see from the above, the collective Packee IQ is monotone decreasing over time until it hits a rock bottom value of P* at some time tn in t* during which an uncontrollable khujli of tactical brilliance erupts at GHQ in Rawalpindi. Examples of such tn's include 1947-48, 1965, 1971, and 1999.
This leads to the formulation and articulation of such famous hypotheses as Ayub's 1 Packee soldier = 10 Indian soldiers hypothesis, his equally famous one hard kick in the right place and Indian morale will collapse hypothesis, or Musharaff's more recent the Indians will not escalate in Kargil but will simply roll over and hand it to us on a silver platter hypothesis.
In order to test these hypotheses, the Packees embark upon an ill-thought military adventure at this time tn and end up getting a painful kick up their collective musharaffholes. The pain of the said kick causes a jump in Packee IQ at time tn that is given by dn*. The magnitude of dn* is proportional to the magnitude of the musharaff-kicking administered at time tn.
And then the whole cycle begins anew. As you can see the original three laws fall out as corollaries. Not only that, but this portmanteau theorem also explains mullah-e-momin enqyoob's 14 step dictator cycle.
Addendum - In the author's opinion, there exists some deep but at this time unknown connection between the value of P* and the Kashmal conjecture.
==//==
Of course this immediately set the goat amongst the jihadis, and BRFites immediately raised objections. The most serious came from BR's "Physics grp". Their complaints and solutions were as follows:
1. The problem is the idea that Pakee IQ's have an absolute lower bound. There is no evidence for this whatsoever. In fact, evidence seems to point the other way, viz: note for example how little affect the Catclasmic event of '71 had on Pakee behaviour.
It has been suggested that we may need a modification that involves Pakee Stupidity (Ps) having no lower bound.
2. We like the jump discontiuities stuff. Pakee stupidity is proven to be coninuous. Perhaps a modification to differentiable everywhere except on a set of measure zero?
Once a Paki, always a moron: (Actually just a restatement of the Zeroth Law).
Based on this they came up with a better theorem in Mathematical form for Pakee terror:
(T) $ (P)
(T = Terrorist activities in world, P= Paki connection)
For every terrorist activity in the world, there exists a paki connection
This apparently leads to the Quantum Theory of Pakeeness or Conservation of Paki trade : (No no-one really understands how these lead to the under bit. But that's becoz as anyone knows, no one really understands quantum theory.)
Between any two well-defined periods of time, the sum of Paki exports of terror and non-terror products will remain constant.
Corollary :
1. The terror Hamiltonian commutes with the Paki trade operator.
2. The eigenvectors of the terror Hamiltonian and the Paki trade operator share a common eigenbasis. This eigenbasis is called Paki nature.
3. The expectation values of the terror Hamiltonian are real and measurable in quantized steps of each Islamist bomb blast / murder that occurs on planet Earth. The number of Islamist bomb blasts / murders is has a daily lower bound - unity.
Comments :
1. Due to large perturbations in the system containing the Paki apparatus, the lower bound of Islamist murders is never observed in practice - typically a much higher multiple of one is observed.
2. The Paki IQ operator does not commute with the terror Hamiltonian, is non-Hermitian and is not conserved. Its expectation values, are imaginary, and their L2 norm is a monotonically decreasing function of time.
3. Paki self-esteem operator is Hermitian, and its expectation values are oscillatory. There exists an empirical corelation with visits of top US/Chinese/Saudi officials to Pakistan. There is no official Paki consensus on the mechanism that governs changes in these expectation values.
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And there good folk is a summary of the conclusions of the early years of BR's study into Pakiness. Now a lost art, but once considered a the pinnacle of Paki studies.
(NB: 2019 addition: Sadly N^3 is no longer with us. He long ago found that his login didn't work and retired in a sulk to Mongolia.)
==//==
The theorem of Pakeeness:
It began with an question by kashmal_a who, like all those who had bothered to notice Pakees, saw the spectacular nature of Pak stupidity (which in Pakistan is called tactical brilliance), and plaintively asked:
"isn't there a limit to how low Pakee IQ can get?"
After much cogitating and ruminating (being Yindoo), the question was answered by Alok_N with his famous Aloks Law of Pakeeness also known as the First Law of Pakeeness which states:
First Law of Pakiness:
Given any two Pakees, there exists a third Pakee with IQ lower than either.
Later however, after some more ruminating and cogitating (lessons in which are available to Pakees from any Yindoo, send cash only please, no cheques or Pakee currency accepted), it was realised that:
the theorem is not truly applicable if the set of Pakees is finite ...
After much discussion, flame wars, trolling and general mayhem within the hallowed portals of BRs Pakee Study Group, this shortcoming was set aside by the following observation which became the equally famous Second Law of Pakeeness, viz:
Second Law of Pakeeness:
Pakees reproduce even dumber Pakees.
Note: My records do not show who gets the credit for this - naturally enough, since I'm writing this account of the discovery of these laws, I cunningly take full credit for it. On the other hand, one of our more famous Pakee experts on the forum is BRs admin Shiv. Justice demands that he get something added to his name for his long services to Pakee studies as well as a sort of Lifetime Achievement Award.
But, like any good academic I don't give a stuff for justice when first claim credit is at stake. However . . . as a long time BRite I'm also well aware that kissing up to mods and admins pays dividends in the long run - consequently I've arbitrarily added Shivs name to this Law and its therefore known as the Kgoan-Shiv (alphabetical order onlee) Law of Pakiness. Or just the Second Law if you prefer to risk denying ADMIN and MODERATOR Shiv and lil ol' me our just desserts.
At this stage, another long time researcher in Pakeeness, Rye, stepped in to put the final touch on the Three Laws of Pakiness.
In his own words:
"Very lovely theorems, though, as people say, the pigeonhole principle would falsify the theorem when the number of Pakees is finite. After much thought, chai and biskooth, the following additional axiom may remove the weakness people mention"
Third Law of Pakiness:
A Pakees IQ decreases in a strictly monotonic manner over time.
Ths is also known as Rye's Law for obvious reasons. Rye went on to add:
This nicely explains the downward IQ spiral that we can see in Pakistan, and also fixes the problem with the previous theorem, since we can pick any two Pakees, and during any interval, the IQ of another Paki would have reached a new minimum. Q.E.D.
But long time researchers in Pakeeness were not satisfied. After another long bout of runimations, cogitations, chai, biskoot, flame wars and the odd banning of some Pakee trolls, some non-troll Pakees and some non-jingo Yindoos just for the heck of it, researchers came up with what is sometimes called the Zeroth Law of Pakeeness, or JRJ's Law, but is better known as the BR Axiom of Pakeeness:
BR's Axiom of Pakeeness:
Pakees are Stupid
Coupling the BR Axiom (or Zeroth Law if you prefer) with the Three Laws of Pakeeness enables any Pakee expert or, quite marvellously even a non-expert, to predict any Pakee behaviour, under any condition, in any circumstance to all orders of magnitude and any degree of accuracy with any data.
This is a remarkable achievement. It is crucial to note that it works with any data. Even with no data, Pakee data, US State Dept data or data from a South Asia Expert from a Beltway think-tank and; quite mindbogglingly even with data from the BBC, the Hindu and the Times of India!!
Their wide applicability is truly staggering.
Of course there are other subsidiary rules. I mention two quite famous ones, known as the Two Corollaries of Pakeeness, the timeless N^3 Solution to the Pakee Problem and JEM's Rule because they are quite important in their own right, and in a practical sense, probably more important than the Laws themselves.
Corollary 1 - N^3 Solution to Pakee Problem:
Give Peace a Chance. Destroy Pakistan, NOW.
Corollary 2 - JEMs Rule:
Discussing anything with a Pakee is like wrestling with a pig. At the end of it you end up getting tired, frustrated and filthy while the pig has had a ball.
Note 1: From a historical perspective these two corolaries, the N^3 Solution and JEM's Rule, are actually among the oldest of all the Pakee laws. In fact JEM's Rule was instrumental in BR's success as a largely Pakee Free Zone.
Both these can be shown to be derivable, rigorously, from the Axiom and the Three Laws.
Note 2: The N^3 Solution was discovered by one of the earliest researchers and a pioneer in the field of Pakeeness Studies. It still remains the most favoured theoretical solution of all and; a vast amount of research has been done on this solution. See for example the published literature by the group of researchers known as the "Dash to the Indus" crowd, or the "Give Reconstruction Contracts for PakeeLand to Haliburton and Bechtel Immediately" people.
Note 3: While there is no doubt as to N^3's authorship of his Corollary, there's no real evidence that JEM was responsible for the Rule. However, again using Author priviliges and my ardent desire to suck up to admins at whatever opportunity, I arbitrarily nominated him as the author. This may change in the future depending on which admin I wish to kiss up to at any given time.
Other researchers on Pakeeness, wildly jealous at the success of these legendary names, have also attempted to put in their two bits. The afore mentioned kashmal_a for example has published the Kashmal Conjecture:
"The half life of Paki IQ does not exceed the Crescent co-efficient (duration of one lunar rotation divided by duration of one lunar revolution) multipled by the duration of one sidereal day".
This however has not yet been proven, is not really well known, is not even remembered by anyone and no one, including me, really knows what it means. I include it here simply because it sounds so crash hot.
Another wildly jealous member came up with the Sparsh Theorem: In full here is his submission:
Kgoan, I would like to humbly submit the following portmanteau theorem for your consideration. It models the evolutionary dynamics of Packee IQ over time in the most general possible manner and the original three laws fall out as corollaries. Pesh hai:
Let P : [0, infinity) -- [0, M] be a real valued function of a real valued time variable t and let P(t) denote the collective Packee IQ at time t. Then P(t) has the following properties:
(1) P is uniformly bounded above by M.
(2) P is continuously differentiable on [0, infinity) except on a countable set of points t* = {t0, t1, t2, ...} where it has jump discontinuities.
(3) dP(t)/dt 0 on [0, infinity) \ t*.
(4) For any tn in t*, P(tn-) = P* and P(tn+) = P* + dn* where dn* 0.
Comments:
As we can see from the above, the collective Packee IQ is monotone decreasing over time until it hits a rock bottom value of P* at some time tn in t* during which an uncontrollable khujli of tactical brilliance erupts at GHQ in Rawalpindi. Examples of such tn's include 1947-48, 1965, 1971, and 1999.
This leads to the formulation and articulation of such famous hypotheses as Ayub's 1 Packee soldier = 10 Indian soldiers hypothesis, his equally famous one hard kick in the right place and Indian morale will collapse hypothesis, or Musharaff's more recent the Indians will not escalate in Kargil but will simply roll over and hand it to us on a silver platter hypothesis.
In order to test these hypotheses, the Packees embark upon an ill-thought military adventure at this time tn and end up getting a painful kick up their collective musharaffholes. The pain of the said kick causes a jump in Packee IQ at time tn that is given by dn*. The magnitude of dn* is proportional to the magnitude of the musharaff-kicking administered at time tn.
And then the whole cycle begins anew. As you can see the original three laws fall out as corollaries. Not only that, but this portmanteau theorem also explains mullah-e-momin enqyoob's 14 step dictator cycle.
Addendum - In the author's opinion, there exists some deep but at this time unknown connection between the value of P* and the Kashmal conjecture.
==//==
Of course this immediately set the goat amongst the jihadis, and BRFites immediately raised objections. The most serious came from BR's "Physics grp". Their complaints and solutions were as follows:
1. The problem is the idea that Pakee IQ's have an absolute lower bound. There is no evidence for this whatsoever. In fact, evidence seems to point the other way, viz: note for example how little affect the Catclasmic event of '71 had on Pakee behaviour.
It has been suggested that we may need a modification that involves Pakee Stupidity (Ps) having no lower bound.
2. We like the jump discontiuities stuff. Pakee stupidity is proven to be coninuous. Perhaps a modification to differentiable everywhere except on a set of measure zero?
Once a Paki, always a moron: (Actually just a restatement of the Zeroth Law).
Based on this they came up with a better theorem in Mathematical form for Pakee terror:
(T) $ (P)
(T = Terrorist activities in world, P= Paki connection)
For every terrorist activity in the world, there exists a paki connection
This apparently leads to the Quantum Theory of Pakeeness or Conservation of Paki trade : (No no-one really understands how these lead to the under bit. But that's becoz as anyone knows, no one really understands quantum theory.)
Between any two well-defined periods of time, the sum of Paki exports of terror and non-terror products will remain constant.
Corollary :
1. The terror Hamiltonian commutes with the Paki trade operator.
2. The eigenvectors of the terror Hamiltonian and the Paki trade operator share a common eigenbasis. This eigenbasis is called Paki nature.
3. The expectation values of the terror Hamiltonian are real and measurable in quantized steps of each Islamist bomb blast / murder that occurs on planet Earth. The number of Islamist bomb blasts / murders is has a daily lower bound - unity.
Comments :
1. Due to large perturbations in the system containing the Paki apparatus, the lower bound of Islamist murders is never observed in practice - typically a much higher multiple of one is observed.
2. The Paki IQ operator does not commute with the terror Hamiltonian, is non-Hermitian and is not conserved. Its expectation values, are imaginary, and their L2 norm is a monotonically decreasing function of time.
3. Paki self-esteem operator is Hermitian, and its expectation values are oscillatory. There exists an empirical corelation with visits of top US/Chinese/Saudi officials to Pakistan. There is no official Paki consensus on the mechanism that governs changes in these expectation values.
===========
And there good folk is a summary of the conclusions of the early years of BR's study into Pakiness. Now a lost art, but once considered a the pinnacle of Paki studies.
(NB: 2019 addition: Sadly N^3 is no longer with us. He long ago found that his login didn't work and retired in a sulk to Mongolia.)
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
what happened to ruskies?
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
As if on cue, Dimmy has proven all those theorams true by "downgrading" relations with India. Even those Monty Pythonians could not come with such a response
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
This gem should be added to the opening post of every Terroristan dhaga.kgoan wrote:The theorem of Pakeeness:
Requesting all Bradmins to kindly consider the same.
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
What a bunch of Real Analystskgoan wrote:For Bart and those interested: A series of posts from 2003 . . .
classic, made my day.Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
Why just them? Burkha bibi and nidhi have also been absent from the scene. Especially barkha as she claims to be cashmere eggspert!CRamS wrote:Guys, have you noticed one thing. While Pakis in Indian mufti like Abdullah and Mehbooba are squealing, the harried rats have been silent. At least it seems so. And I think it makes sense. Because they have never accepted Indian constitution anyway, so however much they are mighty p!ssed that their relevance will now be confined to the dustbin, at least their public silence is consistent because they cannot in breath say they don't accept Indian constitution and in the next opposes any constitutional move that India makes.
However, the Paki reaction and melt down is very puzzling. Frankly, I would have thought that they would have issued a terse statement along the lines of "Kashmir is disputed" and it doesn't make any difference what India does.
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
This is a very good question. Would love for someone who is plugged into the establishment let us know why the Russians are throwing their lot in with beggars who can’t pay for Russian meal.Karthik S wrote:
what happened to ruskies?
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
They forgot to attribute the quote to meh-boob-aah. They clarified it in following tweets.khan wrote:This is a very good question. Would love for someone who is plugged into the establishment let us know why the Russians are throwing their lot in with beggars who can’t pay for Russian meal.Karthik S wrote:
what happened to ruskies?
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
Not to give any credit to Burkha Bibi, but read her twitter line. She's at least got off her tushy and is reporting from the ground. And she is trying her level best to paint a dire picture, but she herself has had to admit that there is a calm.shravanp wrote: Why just them? Burkha bibi and nidhi have also been absent from the scene. Especially barkha as she claims to be cashmere eggspert!
Nidhi, must have joined Omar Abdullah at whatever 5-star resort he has been housed in to keep him happy in these 'dark days'. And hence possibly missing from her posh air conditioned studio in UnDy offices well decked up as usual with make up and designer clothes, and self righteously badgering some poor rustic BJP bloke by picking on some obscure issue or the other day in and day out like that other propagandist Sreenivasan Jain.
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
IIRC they were making sympathetic equal-equal noises during operation Balakot days. There seems to be a definite pattern in RT’s coverage.Thakur_B wrote:They forgot to attribute the quote to meh-boob-aah. They clarified it in following tweets.khan wrote: This is a very good question. Would love for someone who is plugged into the establishment let us know why the Russians are throwing their lot in with beggars who can’t pay for Russian meal.
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
During UPA era our only response was to call off talks, now Pakis are having to use such tactics.hnair wrote:
As if on cue, Dimmy has proven all those theorams true by "downgrading" relations with India. Even those Monty Pythonians could not come with such a response
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
Remember that if peace returns to the valley then their "dukan bandh" (shop will be closed) too.khan wrote:IIRC they were making sympathetic equal-equal noises during operation Balakot days. There seems to be a definite pattern in RT’s coverage.Thakur_B wrote:
They forgot to attribute the quote to meh-boob-aah. They clarified it in following tweets.
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
Welcome back ! Please contribute your deep insights at least temporarily here - moments like Aug 5 2019 come only once in 1-3 generations . This forum needs its best historical resources to see the way forward - it’s a pleasure to have you guys posting again .kgoan wrote:Now, now JRJ, now now. . . I'll only concede that you won your fair share!jrjrao wrote:Oh those were the days, when KGoan and I would duel, as if we were Burr and Hamilton, in the contest to bag the hag every Wednesday. The prize was truly enticing, in that if you won, then you had the hag for loving company all to yourself for the next six full days. KGoan was hard to beat, but I think I won the hag more often than he did!!
ps: have you noticed how well the pakees are playing to the Three Laws of Pakee Stupidity these last few days?
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
Wow the Raw agint and Kgoan... Nice to see you guys back.
I had forgotten the weekly "bag the hag" event. IIRC, posting the PISS director's pic without warning was an automatic ban of 3 days.
The write up of the laws was really funny.
I had forgotten the weekly "bag the hag" event. IIRC, posting the PISS director's pic without warning was an automatic ban of 3 days.
The write up of the laws was really funny.
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
In Philippines, a minor fire broke out in a flat and was put out. It was a very unremarkable incident. No one was hurt.kgoan wrote:For every terrorist activity in the world, there exists a paki connection
However, a very ordinary lady beat cop on hearing from locals that the flat was occupied by Pakistanis decided to raid it and it resulted in foiling of a major plot by WTC Bomber Ramzi Yusuf.
This very ordinary lady's instincts kicked in on hearing Pakistani and her instincts were absolutely true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aida_Fariscal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzi_Yousef
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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
Hello RAW agint, Thanks to your facts of Pakiness, I got banned by Twitter for 24 hours.kgoan wrote:For Bart and those interested: A series of posts from 2003 . . .
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The theorem of Pakeeness:
Once a Paki, always a moron: (Actually just a restatement of the Zeroth Law).
(NB: 2019 addition: Sadly N^3 is no longer with us. He long ago found that his login didn't work and retired in a sulk to Mongolia.)
All I did was quote this Zeroth Unified theorem of Pakiness Once a Paki moron, always a moron: on my twitter post and swiftly was booted out.
Now they want my telephone number to track my movements.
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
Not puzzling at all.CRamS wrote:However, the Paki reaction and melt down is very puzzling. Frankly, I would have thought that they would have issued a terse statement along the lines of "Kashmir is disputed" and it doesn't make any difference what India does.
1. What GOI did does make a difference. Forget the Indian pov. Just watch the last couple of videos of Hajam Sethi that I had posted recently.
2. Bakis are "tactically brilliant"as has been proven multiple times.
3. Mango Apduls are demanding that Bakis government react. Not doing/taking any "public" rudhali/action would have looked like acquiescence to Indian action. Totally unacceptable from the point of view of the masses fed on a steady "3D superiority" narrative.
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
Worth watching - A former Indian intelligence officer shares his comments on the developments in India's state of Jammu & Kashmir....
https://youtu.be/iK9G-4H52Tk
https://youtu.be/iK9G-4H52Tk
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
I fundamentally have two concerns:Rudradev wrote:Coupta predicates all his anal-lysis on the fulcrum of "American support for India" or "American support for Pakistan" because he knows very well where his money comes from, and needs to exaggerate the influence of that entity in all matters.
(1) LeT is only quiet till IMF money comes in. They are essentially a part of Pak Armed Forces in Mufti at a fraction of the cost. The level of infiltration, that is low now, is not due to Balakot (which a lot of people, including many RW in India do not believe was quite as successful as we are led to believe), but due to $$ from IMF.
(2) American Support to India / Pressure on Pakistan, IS important -- even though it may hurt our egos a bit.
I was listening to Heritage foundation lecture and the most worrisome aspect was India's Military - both Budget and Acquisitions. I hope we can cope with the scenarios that unfold. Sorry, if this came across as a Dhoti Shiver onlee.
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Modi to address the nation soon.... Wonder what's up
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Nothing of substance
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
You mean to say arch enemy country that behaved like a bakri while UPA was in power, coming and bombing inside international border, first of its kind, after which pakees became nuke nude (heard about that boeing 777?), after which pakees shut down their airspace for months, after which pakees reopened their airspace only after taking assurances from us is all because of IMF loan?Manu wrote:I fundamentally have two concerns:Rudradev wrote:Coupta predicates all his anal-lysis on the fulcrum of "American support for India" or "American support for Pakistan" because he knows very well where his money comes from, and needs to exaggerate the influence of that entity in all matters.
(1) LeT is only quiet till IMF money comes in. They are essentially a part of Pak Armed Forces in Mufti at a fraction of the cost. The level of infiltration, that is low now, is not due to Balakot (which a lot of people, including many RW in India do not believe was quite as successful as we are led to believe), but due to $$ from IMF.
(2) American Support to India / Pressure on Pakistan, IS important -- even though it may hurt our egos a bit.
I was listening to Heritage foundation lecture and the most worrisome aspect was India's Military - both Budget and Acquisitions. I hope we can cope with the scenarios that unfold. Sorry, if this came across as a Dhoti Shiver onlee.
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Fair Enough, I was binge Watching Unfair Bibi's talks and she has a negative effect on the mind....I hope I am wrong..
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Manu Saar, uncle has no choice. Blood and market access to India can’t go together. I doubt anyone in top echelons of goi is bissing in chaadi with respect to bahadur.Manu wrote:...
(2) American Support to India / Pressure on Pakistan, IS important -- even though it may hurt our egos a bit.
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kgoanji: Thx for the hystery (propah term for Pakistani history).
By your rules, I take due credit for "bagging da hog".
Hyooman Rites Minister, no less!
By your rules, I take due credit for "bagging da hog".
Hyooman Rites Minister, no less!
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Desi media are amazingly quiet except for the odd editorial "hummphhf-what-what I say!" from The Indian Express. TOIlet and even HUNDI quiet. UndieTV factual, as in Nothing 2 Report.
Reminds me of the saying by the famous Pakistani Jernail:
Dogra Neta Lal Singh also placed under house arrest.
Then again, maybe Modi figures that there should be NOOOOO announcement that the 144CrPc is withdrawn, and media will move on to something else (how many reports do u c about Xinjiang, since THEIR netas started Gobi Desert infrastructure participation?)
Reminds me of the saying by the famous Pakistani Jernail:
Has the PM spoken? The longer the clampdown continues, the harder it becomes to let go, so they better act fast. OTOH, it does take a while to ship ppl to Arunachal for road-building works.
V r having Phreedom Oph Sbeech in Bakistan.
It eej onlee Phreedom APHTER Sbeech that is nat there.
Dogra Neta Lal Singh also placed under house arrest.
Then again, maybe Modi figures that there should be NOOOOO announcement that the 144CrPc is withdrawn, and media will move on to something else (how many reports do u c about Xinjiang, since THEIR netas started Gobi Desert infrastructure participation?)
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Note from UBCN research:
1. Last reports from BeeBeeSee are 2 dins old
2. Last f*rt from NYT is 16 hours old, and that was a Paki Fiction-Writer (what else is there).
3. Nothing else shows up in Phoren.
4. Indian media reports drying up, repeating old news, except for Dogra Lal Singh house arrest and INC netas stopped at airport.
5. SC senile-ator Lindsey Graham made that one tweet and got his ass handed to him. Pretty unanimous whipping by right-left-center, except for the Pakis threatening nuclear war and proving kgoan's Theorems.
Pakis have tried ("partially") closing airspace, expelling diplomats, stopping tomato imports. Net return is some vague tweet from SDOTUS on Everyone Exercising Restraints.
1. Last reports from BeeBeeSee are 2 dins old
2. Last f*rt from NYT is 16 hours old, and that was a Paki Fiction-Writer (what else is there).
3. Nothing else shows up in Phoren.
4. Indian media reports drying up, repeating old news, except for Dogra Lal Singh house arrest and INC netas stopped at airport.
5. SC senile-ator Lindsey Graham made that one tweet and got his ass handed to him. Pretty unanimous whipping by right-left-center, except for the Pakis threatening nuclear war and proving kgoan's Theorems.
Pakis have tried ("partially") closing airspace, expelling diplomats, stopping tomato imports. Net return is some vague tweet from SDOTUS on Everyone Exercising Restraints.
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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
All the 4 Major New Agencies of Russia: (i) RT (ii) TASS (no opinion at all), (iii) Sputnik International and (iv) Interfax (none) have reasonably India Positive articles/Opeds. The Twitter feed is not necessarily the best way to go...yensoy wrote:Remember that if peace returns to the valley then their "dukan bandh" (shop will be closed) too.khan wrote: IIRC they were making sympathetic equal-equal noises during operation Balakot days. There seems to be a definite pattern in RT’s coverage.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/465899-kashmir ... tan-trump/
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201908 ... y-analyst/
If we have to read some tweets, see the ones of Dr Senge Sering, a prominent leader of the Gilgit-Baltistan region of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK)...quite illuminating...@SengeHSering
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Here u go! At least give him some hits.
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1158687132644532230
#WATCH Senge H. Sering, Gilgit-Baltistan activist: Home Minister Amit Shah has said that PoJK is an integral part of J&K. We believe Gilgit-Baltistan is an integral part of J&K. We are extension of Ladakh & we ask for our rights in constitutional framework of India
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1158687132644532230
#WATCH Senge H. Sering, Gilgit-Baltistan activist: Home Minister Amit Shah has said that PoJK is an integral part of J&K. We believe Gilgit-Baltistan is an integral part of J&K. We are extension of Ladakh & we ask for our rights in constitutional framework of India
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Also see #Baltistan
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Baltistan?src=hashtag_click
People in #gilgit #Baltistan in PoK held protests to demand compensation for their lands which were acquired by the Pakistani government, in the name of development, decades ago.
Also see:
Eztainutlacatl ~ळाळुक
@cbkwgl
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Almost everyone gets the map of Jammu and Kashmir wrong. That's because of the term Gilgit-Baltistan. Baltistan is actually a part of Ladakh Wazarat. JK has five units - Jammu, Kashmir, Ladakh Wazarat, Gilgit Wazarat and Gilgit Agency.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Baltistan?src=hashtag_click
People in #gilgit #Baltistan in PoK held protests to demand compensation for their lands which were acquired by the Pakistani government, in the name of development, decades ago.
Also see:
Eztainutlacatl ~ळाळुक
@cbkwgl
· Aug 6
Almost everyone gets the map of Jammu and Kashmir wrong. That's because of the term Gilgit-Baltistan. Baltistan is actually a part of Ladakh Wazarat. JK has five units - Jammu, Kashmir, Ladakh Wazarat, Gilgit Wazarat and Gilgit Agency.
Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories
My humble 2 paise, what RT preaches, is not the same as what is going on P's mind.Karthik S wrote:
what happened to ruskies?
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This sudden move shocked them so much that they still didn't recover from it. All these days, they said if we do some thing, pakis will declare war and we will face serious consequences. They lost their main blackmail card. Now they have to walk the talk to prove their credibility.
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This is interesting. There may be a lot more to the creation of Ladakh UT than met the stupid mind. NOW I see why rizald is croaking. Ladakh UT includes all the "territory ceded by Pakistan to china" and Gilgit-Baltistan. IOW, creation of Ladakh UT is the first step in liberation of Balwaristan.
**Request to postors: Can you PLEASE stop posting the SAME big pictures of nonsense over and over and over and over again? See how many 3-star-King times the RT.com garbage has been re-posted. Thx.
**Request to postors: Can you PLEASE stop posting the SAME big pictures of nonsense over and over and over and over again? See how many 3-star-King times the RT.com garbage has been re-posted. Thx.
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https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1159357569233817600
ANI @ANI
Dr Karan Singh, Congress leader&son of Maharaja Hari Singh, on abrogation of Article 370: Ladakh's emergence as a Union Territory is to be welcomed...Gender discrimination in Article 35A needed to be addressed...My sole concern is to further welfare of all sections®ions of J&K
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Since GoI got support of more than 2/3rd legislators in each house on the issue of making 370 inoperative, I wish it goes ahead in the next parliament session to make the constitutional amendment to completely remove it. A future GoI should not be able to make the 370 operative again by simply issuing a presidential notification using the same 370(3).
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Data point ...
https://twitter.com/Abhina_Prakash/stat ... 7359442946
https://twitter.com/Abhina_Prakash/stat ... 7359442946
Abhinav Prakash @Abhina_Prakash
How was Art 370 secular? Sikhs refugees of partition were not given voting rights while Muslim refugees from Tibet & Xinjiang in 1950s were! @_sabanaqvi
Do I need to talk about others likes Dalits in Jammu & Kashmir?