Aditya_V wrote:Yup , if read the History no way India Kashmir is anyway related to Russia and Ukraine.
I don't want my analogy, which I offered as an alternative to A_Gupta's original analogy, bear in mind, to be misconstrued.
Of course India didn't commit crimes in Kashmir the way USSR did in Ukraine, when it was part of the SU, and the crimes didn't necessarily target Ukraine per se. For you to focus on that aspect when defending against my challenge to the India:UK analogy is misleading.
Let me reiterate why it is questionable to compare Russia:Ukraine with India:UK. The degrees of cultural and geographical affinity involved in the two cases are so qualitatively different as to leave one surprised that such an analogy is even being made.
If I am incorrect in my belief that Kiev is considered the tribal heartland of the original Russians, I'm willing to be corrected. As to the historical quotations, I'll just note that, once there is a breach in the relationship, history can and is always revised to justify the breach and the newfound separate identity.
To explain further why I am having a problem with A_Gupta's case that good Ukraine needs NATO/Khan support against bad Russia because Stalin-Lysenko-Ukraine famine:
I believe that in some elements of Bengali lore, Shivaji and the Marathas were/are viewed as bandits/invaders/mass murderers. Hypothetically, , if tomorrow Mamata Banerjee were to declare independence, and ask for Khan support against India, would we then justify that request by pointing to Shivaji's "crimes?" (After suitably elevating the lore to history under a rejuvenated Romila Thapar, say?)
Or something closer to home for me: Andhras have a similar lore about Pindaris, who were disbanded Maratha soldiers post-Panipat. The way things are going, it is conceivable that Jagan may one day secede and, again, ask for Khan protection of Christian state of Andhra against criminal Hindu fascist state of India. Because, you see, historical crimes of Hindu Marathas against innocent Andhra villagers is already on record, it is just that yeevil yindoos concealed it so far.
I am just wondering where A_Gupta's logic would leave us in such cases.