we know all about what other people should do, but not what we should do. if modiji can't do it, so be it then. whom am i to set rules for others. let Mother decide the course of action. surrounded by murkha sabha, the king became murkha himself.pankajs wrote: Modi will continue to fail this test if such criteria is set. Modi is focused on his objective and does not want distractions like she is creating. She can either toe the party line or quite the party and go on her own with all the freedom that it provides.
Modi gave her a sort of restitution by lifting her status when he could have let her be. He gave her a platform of dignity but not to torpedo his agenda. All she had to do what focus on the issues at hand and not open her mouth.
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THIS is what Modi gets for pulling her out from where she was in a very bad shape/place and lifting her to a respectable position AND then he get blamed for her stupidity in the name of Women and Karma and Draupadi! NO one did anything for her BUT Modi.syam wrote:we know all about what other people should do, but not what we should do. if modiji can't do it, so be it then. whom am i to set rules for others. let Mother decide the course of action. surrounded by murkha sabha, the king became murkha himself.pankajs wrote: Modi will continue to fail this test if such criteria is set. Modi is focused on his objective and does not want distractions like she is creating. She can either toe the party line or quite the party and go on her own with all the freedom that it provides.
Modi gave her a sort of restitution by lifting her status when he could have let her be. He gave her a platform of dignity but not to torpedo his agenda. All she had to do what focus on the issues at hand and not open her mouth.
Gajab Ka Logic.
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Sirmmasand wrote:Where is Sanjay Nirupam? And no word from Raj Thackeray?
The real estate/builders/hundi must be partying it up big time this evening. Will be interesting to watch what happens with the BMC in 2021, a lot of the BJP MLA's are former corporators and as such will mobilise big time on the ground.
He is what we call in Kannada 'Gulle Nari'( smart jackal, a la Panchatantra tales) waiting for his chance to pounce on the carcass of SS or what will remain of it once Pawarful/congi are done with it.
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Now it appears that Modi was indeed a Moorakh for doing what he did!pankajs wrote:THIS is what Modi gets for pulling her out from where she was in a very bad shape/place and lifting her to a respectable position AND then he get blamed for her stupidity in the name of Women and Karma and Draupadi! NO one did anything for her BUT Modi.
Gajab Ka Logic.
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https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1200009628609736704
Shiv Aroor @ShivAroor
Preamble to the Common Mininum Program (CMP) of the Sena-Congress-NCP sarkar being announced now:
https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1200009628609736704
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Backdoor provision for Muslim reservation
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I believe she may not be mentally sound after so much of torture in jail. I feel sympathy for her.pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/AgentSaffron/status ... 0689453056All she had to do was focus on the issue at hand and not open her mouth. Is that too much to expect.Vanara @AgentSaffron
BJP govt got Sadhvi Pragya get justice. She'd have died in jail otherwise.
BJP gave her ticket from a super safe seat.
BJP didn't take action against her for first time.
BJP govt gave her parliamentary committee post.
Still BJP is accused of ill-treatment of Sadhvi.
Modi is very unlucky ... He gets it from all sides for his sincere efforts.
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Irony called and is demanding a soosai vest. It was wearing a burkha and downdowning patriarchy.chetak wrote:twitter
The trend #ThanksMughals shows exactly what is wrong with modern India. Imagine if people in the US trend #ThankYouSlaveOwners or Germans trend #ThankYouNazis. They would be called racists/bigots for lionizing mass murderers. But in India, they are accepted as intellectuals.
7:07 PM - 21 Nov 2019and finallyThank You Mugals
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She has grassroots appeal, so she is not completely wrong. She (and the BHU students) represents the challenge to the RW to balance between institutional discipline and the liberated Hindu spirit in all its manifestations.chetak wrote:She has her own agenda and is chafing at the perceived BJP bit.CRamS wrote:And to rub salt to the wound, he and his UndY pervert friends were badgering BJP for 'hate' spewed by Sadhvi for some stupid off the cuff remark she made about Godse. And BTW, she being a rustic MP may not know when to say what, but she sure should control her tongue a little bit .
This was a mistake to give her the seat.
She doesn't seem to accept/understand party discipline and thinks that the party needs her instead of vice versa.
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Probably the delhi sabha so scared of delhi darbaris.BJP working president JP Nadda has stated that the party has decided to bar the Bhopal MP from attending the party’s parliamentary meetings
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NDTV reality check was hilarious to watch:
Sanjay Jha and NCP/SS ducking the question if SS is secular party now.
Most interesting SS spokesperson said secular=Hindu rastra
The other two seem to alluding that SS was corrupted by BJP and now have been rehabilitated (yani ki Subhah ka bhoola Shyam ko ghar lout aye to sabh mangal hain)
Sanjay Jha and NCP/SS ducking the question if SS is secular party now.
Most interesting SS spokesperson said secular=Hindu rastra
The other two seem to alluding that SS was corrupted by BJP and now have been rehabilitated (yani ki Subhah ka bhoola Shyam ko ghar lout aye to sabh mangal hain)
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https://twitter.com/5Forty3/status/1200042677372252161
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What happens when opposition parties ally to keep BJP out?
In 2019 BJP got 1.8 Crore votes in Karnataka and 4.38 Crore votes in UP, a leap of 50 lakhs and 1 Cr respectively.
In both the states, BJP crossed 50% mark
Maharashtra trajectory won't be different
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somdev wrote:Parliament is a place for serious business but unfortunately it has been made frivolous by the likes of Sadhvi with loose talk. The people responsible for providing nomination of such MPs such be sacked from respective parties. There are a million issues the country is facing which need real-world solutions yet some are stuck in the muck of the past!
At this rate of implosion BJP will disintegrate sooner. People dreaming of BJP's sweep in West Bengal to counterbalance Jharkhand must have realised the mood of the voters with the loss of both the seats in the bye-election. When India was partitioned in 1947, it was Punjab and Bengal that was partitioned and had partial territory loss in the current super-structure of independent India. Therefore NRC is a painful experience people of West Bengal are not willing to endorse - they have endured the loss and pain of partition more than any other state (other than Punjab). There are many poor people who do not even have a piece of paper to provide specially Yindoo refugees!
But. OTOH, is the sadhvi really wrong, given the strong views on the subject expressed by ambedkar himself.
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51 countries or erstwhile British colonies got independence in the 5 years after WW2. They all did not have Gandhis. But among them only we are stupid enough to believe that Gandhi got us independence.
The price of Indian independence was paid in Russian blood, born of Hitler’s stupidity, subsidised by British constitutionality, aided by American arm twisting of Britain. Gandhi & the Congress were a footnote at best #BitterTruths
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Some points from Godse Statement during his prosecution. I was stunned reading this book. The facts were new revelation for me. Wonder why this was never brought out. ? Why get paranoid and attack your own Party MP @BJP4India.? All open debate.
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^ The above twitter statement is incorrect.
Majority of Brit Colonies independent in 1960s and 1970s.
They lost the jewel in the crown early. Sri Lanka and Burma free pass as associated with India.
Majority of Brit Colonies independent in 1960s and 1970s.
They lost the jewel in the crown early. Sri Lanka and Burma free pass as associated with India.
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Read in full
BJP's Maha Folly
BJP's Maha Folly
Now that the dust has settled on the Maharashtra political ruckus and govt formation, we can look at events and history a bit more calmly. The Shiv Sena (SS) has formed a govt with Congress and NCP. I am not concerned with how long it will last. What this post is concerned with is the poor foresight and wisdom among BJP leaders in allying with the two-bit SS in the first place. It is not “Mahayuti” as they call it but “Mahamoronery” to say the least. The BJP doesn’t learn from history it seems. But before all that, there are also equal number of morons among the RW who still think SS was a Hindutva party that has changed stripes, that Bal Thackeray (BT) was a Hindutva icon and all that rubbish. Let’s get some understanding of history first.
The SS was formed in 1966 with the help of Congress and Bombay industrialists to combat Commie unions in Bombay. BT added another ingredient to it called “Aamchi Mumbai” and non-Marathis to get out. Therefore, the first assault by SS was on Commie union leaders and the non-Marathis (South Indians, Bengalis etc). Many non-Marathi families were violently attacked and driven out of Mumbai. Majority of these families were obviously Hindus. The culmination of this violent cult resulted in the murder of a Commie union leader and MLA Krishna Desai for which over a dozen SS men were convicted. BT was not charged or implicated in this. It is this cult of violence, fear-mongering that made BT a “force” in Mumbai and not any political ideology and the term “Hindutva” was hardly in the political lexicon back then. Politicians, Cops and other local entities developed a fear of BT for his “Disruptive” capabilities. Thus, whether in power or not, BT could influence political events and outcomes and politicians genuflected before him at Matoshree. He became “Sarkar” as the movie projected him.
It is only towards the late 1980s that BT understood that violence isn’t paying politically and his party got nowhere that he sobered it down and started becoming more of a “politician”. This sobering down took on a more “patriotic” flavour. Remember, in 1991 SS men dug up the Wankhede pitch to prevent a match with Pakistan which thrilled the Hindus. As the Hindutva movement, led by LK Advani started gaining ground, BT’s clothes also changed from white to “Saffron”. By mid-90s BJP started winning some elections here and there and for the first time the SS-BJP combined came to power in 1995 in Maha and Manohar Joshi became CM. By 1995 BJP also got its permanent footing in Gujarat and became a political force. Later on, AB Vajpayee would become PM and BJP kept rising as a national party while SS remained a local party Mumbai Municipality. This dwindled the dominance of SS vs BJP. Thus, from a dominant partner, SS had become a “sidekick” that had lesser influence on BJP. In time to come, Narendra Modi became a nationally popular force and that finally asserted BJP’s supremacy over SS in Maha politics, as in many other states.
By the 1990s, BT who was just known as “Bal Thackeray” came to be respectfully addressed as “Balasaheb” and continued to exert influence in Maha politics whether in power or not. He had such an enormous clout that that all political leaders genuflected at his feet. With his death in 2012, the SS had lost all that “phenomenal informal power”. The replacement kid, Udhav Thackeray (UT), had neither the charisma nor the intelligence or sharp wit of BT to be as dominant a force in politics as BT was. In addition, with time, BT had become the senior-most figure among all his peers, so that brought him some reverence too. It is not easy to fill the shoes of a giant like BT and that was the biggest problem of the “power hungry” UT. But even with the giant BT, SS never won a majority on its own in Maha. Thus, SS always remained on the side-line and their only way to power was with some alliance. But even before the death of BT, I had warned the BJP never to have a prepoll alliance with SS because the party neither had any ideology and all the Hindutva crap being credited to it is nothing but falsehood
PM Modi understood this and did not ally with SS in 2014. The BJP won LS and Maharashtra on their own (although outside support was needed in Maha to form the govt). It is only after the results in 2014 that SS became a partner with BJP in the Maha govt. It would naturally hurt UT’s ego to realise that he is just a bit-player and does not possess the “Dadagiri” of BT. “Balasaheb” had open contempt and disdain for many of his alliance partners, including LK Advani. He was sharp-tongued and even said “those who bow before Sonia are Hijdas”. You can easily conclude what UT is if you go by that statement of BT. The other Thackeray, Raj, was reduced to a mere roadside-watcher in politics. What UT wanted was, the same power that BT had without contesting elections. He was more power-hungry than BT as his son AUT too is. These men haven’t built anything on their own, therefore, their lust is different. And then came the Palghar bypoll in May 2018. This is an event that most people are simply ignoring. It was the final insult to UT’s ego that turned him into a vengeful politician desperate for power at any and all cost:
Mentally, UT had already sworn revenge after the Palghar bypoll loss. He started publicly slamming PM Modi, even going to the extent of using “Chowkidar Chor” in a public meeting. UT also started hobnobbing with “Sickular” forces like Mamata Banerjee and their lovey-dovey exchanges were there for everyone to see (Except Devendra Fadnavis who was blind)
If not for his fear and knowledge that he would be slaughtered in Maha elections if he broke from BJP, UT would have also attended that spurious “Unity rally” of Mamata in Kolkata. The fallout of the Palghar bypoll fight was not missed by even the moronic media. Somehow, BJP and Fadnavis completely missed it altogether:
With all the actions, utterances and even the “Chowkidar Chor” reference, the BJP and Fadnavis simply failed to measure the motives of UT. He is not a BT who had any ideological compulsions later in life. UT simply wanted power, to seek revenge against Fadnavis and upstage the BJP as the major force in Maharashtra politics and sustain or rebuild the languishing influence of SS in the state’s politics. It is unfortunate that the BJP failed to recognise this freaky chameleon and still took on the SS as an ally after much protracted negotiations over seats. And if anyone was in doubt over the motives of UT in partnering BJP, the NCP MLA and leader Anil Deshmukh repeatedly alluded that post-elections, the NCP-Congress-SS would form the govt. In a speech and an interview, Deshmukh asserted this confidently. Hindsight, is a gift to all of us, but foresight should have been a gift with BJP with shrewd players like Amit Shah who were watching all this (Video 37 secs):
By the time Deshmukh made his speeches, it was too late to correct any mistakes. The withdrawal dates were over and elections were just a few days away. BJP’s fate was sealed even before the elections. I don’t think anyone is in doubt that UT and SS would have been in shambles had BJP gone it alone with the powerful magnetic pull of PM Modi with the voters. BJP didn’t lose the Maha election, they are victims of bad judgment and a bad partner. That is all there is to it. And post-results, Fadnavis lamented that UT was not even taking his calls. It is not because the post-election nonsense of 50:50 demand by UT or anything else was the reason. SS and UT had already made up their mind before elections to have their own CM and they knew it wouldn’t be possible with BJP
That’s not all, after stepping down as CM for “80 hours”, Fadnavis made a statement that SS had surrendered “Hindutva at Sonia’s feet”. This is hypocrisy at its worst. In the five years that he was CM, Fadnavis had completely forgotten Hindutva and never uttered the word once. He was busy pleasing Muslims giving Minority scholarships and calling it “Sabka Saath”, he was allowing Kabrastans near Hindu temple, sporting Muslim gear at Bohra celebrations and his wife was doing Christmas Carols. Hindus were seriously short-changed by the Fadnavis-govt and ModiSarkar had better take that warning seriously or they will alienate more Hindus
The map is only “indicative” and like the BJP BhajanMandlis one need not try to find excuses or dissect the reducing Saffron colour by some statistics of voting percentage or other factors. Simple fact is, if BJP could win a giant state like UP in 3 big elections without any partner, there was no reason to ally with the treacherous SS and UT. If that lesson is learned, then BJP will be back with a thumping victory again. The other lesson BJP has to learn, no amount of lipstick for “Sickularism” will get it anywhere. They cannot beat the Sickulars at their game – the only way they can win is with Hindutva as its core. That is the only thing that separates BJP from the motley crowd.
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Now see how the Congis will ignore or skit this issue by saying "this is his personal not party's opinion". BJP should have done the same thing with Pragya
So Very ‘Gandhian’: Congress MLA Says He Will Burn Sadhvi Pragya Alive If She Sets Foot In MP
So Very ‘Gandhian’: Congress MLA Says He Will Burn Sadhvi Pragya Alive If She Sets Foot In MP
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Good article. Every word is solid, including DF and his tryst with "secularism". Shani Shingnapur and Mahalaxmi temple incidents should have also got the mention. Because both places in 2014 BJP candidate won, in 2019 BJP candidates lost.
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If Akbar was Secular-Liberal King, Then Godse was the greatest patriot ever.
So Gandhi could call the murderer of Swami Shradhanand, His brother but we should not analyze MKG lest some people get offended.
So Gandhi could call the murderer of Swami Shradhanand, His brother but we should not analyze MKG lest some people get offended.
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. So looks like Shani Shingnapur and Mahalaxmi temple issues were only local issues. Yes, the BJP candidate may have lost there but there has not been a deep dive of BJP seats in MH. The original plan was that BJP & SS would be together and form the government. Even today they could have done that. The root cause of BJP's debacle was that they could not judge the true colours of Shiv Sena. And with that being the case even if they won the seats at Shani Shingnapur and Mahalaxmi temple things would not have been any different. An addition of two seats would NOT resolve the problem caused by Shiv Sena. Take for example how CPI(M) got drubbed in Lok Sabha elections in 2019. They lost in 18 out of 19 seats; which is a big big thing in KL. And it was that defeat which made the commies now sing a different bhajan.abhijitm wrote:Every word is solid, including DF and his tryst with "secularism". Shani Shingnapur and Mahalaxmi temple incidents should have also got the mention. Because both places in 2014 BJP candidate won, in 2019 BJP candidates lost.
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Congis and anti-BJP people never waste any time. New govt not even formed fully but vendetta cases are quick to begin
https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/120 ... 69441?s=20
https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/120 ... 69441?s=20
Nagpur police delivered to ex-Maha CM Devendra Fadnavis summons issued by a local court in connection with case wherein he is accused of concealing info about two criminal matters against him in election affidavit: Official
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We have some folks here who are first to shoot our people if something goes sideways, but disappears when some real culprit comes out.Vikas wrote:If Akbar was Secular-Liberal King, Then Godse was the greatest patriot ever.
So Gandhi could call the murderer of Swami Shradhanand, His brother but we should not analyze MKG lest some people get offended.
I am telling you sadhvi is not normal human. no normal human goes through these hardships and still be in our face smiling. Don't know why some people on forum adding bad karma to their chart. I can write it on paper, bjp going to face setbacks one after another after this debacle. modiji is sanyasi, he loses nothing. bjp will see loss. and by extension the people who are depending on them will suffer.
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Just as it is possible hold the opposite views on Godse at the same time, it is possible for Sadhvi too.abhijitm wrote:I believe she may not be mentally sound after so much of torture in jail. I feel sympathy for her.pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/AgentSaffron/status ... 0689453056
All she had to do was focus on the issue at hand and not open her mouth. Is that too much to expect.
Modi is very unlucky ... He gets it from all sides for his sincere efforts.
Godse was wrong to kill Gandhi even if his motive was great concern for the country. Similarly, Sadhvi is wrong to keep harping on Gandhi/Godse even when one feels sympathy for what she had to undergo.
Sadhvi was granted an elevated perch of an MP and she should have kept to the party discipline. IF she had a different take on Gandhi/Godse, she should have declined the BJP ticket. Then her statements would count for much less and create much less fireworks. Modi/BJP would not need to disown her and she would be free to "educate" people about other side of Gandhi/Godse debate. There are many who do that, whose pov does surface in the media from time to time, without inviting much scrutiny.
Someone in the BJP erred in giving her a ticket. They gave in to temptation to rub it in to Dogvijay without testing her temperament. BJP has been making a chain of such mistake, the last being sending ED notice to Pawarful just before Maha elections.
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Yeah. They missed the main issue here. I am 90% sure, you are doing low-key gaslighting in this thread. May be this sandbox for you?abhijitm wrote: Good article. Every word is solid, including DF and his tryst with "secularism". Shani Shingnapur and Mahalaxmi temple incidents should have also got the mention. Because both places in 2014 BJP candidate won, in 2019 BJP candidates lost.
Be wary, shani will punish the mischief makers too for using his name to push their agenda.
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I know some people dream of BJP "implosion" but mark my words, Modi/BJP will come back in 2024 with a BIGGER mandate.somdev wrote:Parliament is a place for serious business but unfortunately it has been made frivolous by the likes of Sadhvi with loose talk. The people responsible for providing nomination of such MPs such be sacked from respective parties. There are a million issues the country is facing which need real-world solutions yet some are stuck in the muck of the past!
At this rate of implosion BJP will disintegrate sooner. People dreaming of BJP's sweep in West Bengal to counterbalance Jharkhand must have realised the mood of the voters with the loss of both the seats in the bye-election. When India was partitioned in 1947, it was Punjab and Bengal that was partitioned and had partial territory loss in the current super-structure of independent India. Therefore NRC is a painful experience people of West Bengal are not willing to endorse - they have endured the loss and pain of partition more than any other state (other than Punjab). There are many poor people who do not even have a piece of paper to provide specially Yindoo refugees!
A couple of missteps don't count in the larger scheme of things. NRC may or may not fetch the dividends in Bengal BUT it is the right thing to do. You must read the opinion of CJI Gogoi on the matter.
EVEN of NRC does not identify the current illegals, once the database in ready ALL future illegals will have nowhere to hide. It is about future proofing the country. Is that too difficult to understand?
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IF the above is true, a smart person would have held up the book in parliament and read from it constantly referring to Ambedkar in the speech. That is the way to do it.chetak wrote:But. OTOH, is the sadhvi really wrong, given the strong views on the subject expressed by ambedkar himself.
Something on the lines of "... a different perspective .. from some one who lived during those turbulent time .. who's views are well respected by this august house ... I want to place on record of the house the views of Ambadker ji .." and done it.
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Taking this theory to the next logical level; Indian National Congress, Sonia Maino & kids and the Nehru-Ghandi clan all seems to have got an extremely good karma. Perhaps what they did were the right things to do? . They did good "karma" and they are reaping the benefits as well well .syam wrote:I can write it on paper, bjp going to face setbacks one after another after this debacle. modiji is sanyasi, he loses nothing. bjp will see loss.
+1. The BJP (and every single cadre) should understand the ground situation and then think about making comments. At present main stream media is extremely hostile to them, and if they don't realise that then what can be done? In politics a lot of straight forward speaking will never help. If some one does not like that, they should keep away from politics. The BJP may have given tickets to many folks because of their local crowd pulling powers; but the "return gift" is that many of these local crowd pullers do not have a mass appeal else where (and their words/actions may not have the same effect).pankajs wrote:Sadhvi was granted an elevated perch of an MP and she should have kept to the party discipline. IF she had a different take on Gandhi/Godse, she should have declined the BJP ticket.
The trend I have noticed is that all losers gang up against the winner (i.e BJP) and then form a government. It is a very strange thing to happen in the democracy, but India is really unique. This tactic is working in some states, but we have also seen it failing as well (KA is an example). At a national level such a thing will not work; because too many small time players whose pan-India vision is a big zero.I know some people dream of BJP "implosion" but mark my words, Modi/BJP will come back in 2024 with a BIGGER mandate.
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The most unforgivable part of what Sadhvi did was A Raja is known for foot in the mouth disease, if she let him complete his speech he would have definitely said something embarrassing the UPA, instead by talking out of turn she allowed a line of attack on herself rather allowing A Raja to hang himself.
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People still don't get it ...Rony wrote:Now see how the Congis will ignore or skit this issue by saying "this is his personal not party's opinion". BJP should have done the same thing with Pragya
So Very ‘Gandhian’: Congress MLA Says He Will Burn Sadhvi Pragya Alive If She Sets Foot In MP
1. MP vs MLA
2. Sadhvi with her baggage vs a local unknown
3. Modi with his baggage in the mix
4. Modi's open admiration for Gandhi
5. Majority BJP voters still hold Gandhi in high regards
Wishful thinking does not work in politics. Politics is about calculation and getting it right. BJP miscalculated in Maha and is paying the price.
With power you can push you agenda by 1% at least BUT without it the field will be tilted against you by -10% at least. What will you chose?
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lol. Now explain this. Sadhvi is bad. Sadhvi is loudmouth. Sadhvi doesn't know anything about anything.Congress MLA threatens to burn Sadhvi Pragya alive if she sets foot in Madhya Pradesh
On other hand, this congi mla will get away with his murder threat. All of you who are criticising her, are just enabling people like this congi mla. shame on you.
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You totally forgot the gandhi folks who died over the years. It hardly qualifies as good karma. they are worst hit, so are other dynasties.Sachin wrote: Taking this theory to the next logical level; Indian National Congress, Sonia Maino & kids and the Nehru-Ghandi clan all seems to have got an extremely good karma. Perhaps what they did were the right things to do? . They did good "karma" and they are reaping the benefits as well well .
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Sadhvi should have declined the BJP ticket and should have created he own organization to spread her own message.syam wrote:We have some folks here who are first to shoot our people if something goes sideways, but disappears when some real culprit comes out.Vikas wrote:If Akbar was Secular-Liberal King, Then Godse was the greatest patriot ever.
So Gandhi could call the murderer of Swami Shradhanand, His brother but we should not analyze MKG lest some people get offended.
I am telling you sadhvi is not normal human. no normal human goes through these hardships and still be in our face smiling. Don't know why some people on forum adding bad karma to their chart. I can write it on paper, bjp going to face setbacks one after another after this debacle. modiji is sanyasi, he loses nothing. bjp will see loss. and by extension the people who are depending on them will suffer.
Nothing wrong in that and with Sena going secular, we will need a party or a pressure group to the right of BJP. Perhaps she can resign form BJP and create her own Orginization/Party.
Karma does not work that way you make is sound. BJP did not loose Maha because of Sadhvi nor will it loose Jharkhand, as is forecaster by pollsters because of her. In Bengal, Mumtaz has recovered some ground per reports and the by-election even before Sadhvi made he statement. Karma does not work in advance.
BJP made THE mistake of giving her a ticket just to rub it in to DogVijay.
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she is a lightning rod for all the commie/naxal/anti Hindu media and oped writers.Aditya_V wrote:The most unforgivable part of what Sadhvi did was A Raja is known for foot in the mouth disease, if she let him complete his speech he would have definitely said something embarrassing the UPA, instead by talking out of turn she allowed a line of attack on herself rather allowing A Raja to hang himself.
Best that she maintains a low profile.
She seems neither intelligent nor media savvy.
One genuinely sympathizes with her hardships and troubles but to repeatedly bite the very hand that feeds you is ungrateful, to say the least.
Her vested interest inner circle and others living off her reflected persona seem to be driving her into indiscrete pronouncements.
Her MP status gives her the medical benefits that she may badly need.
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When did I say bjp lost maha because of her? I said bjp will face set backs in future.pankajs wrote: BJP did not loose Maha because of Sadhvi nor will it loose Jharkhand, as is forecaster by pollsters because of her. In Bengal, Mumtaz has recovered some ground per reports and the by-election even before Sadhvi made he statement. Karma does not work in advance.
Yes. you keep parroting what media crooks and congi slaves feeding you.BJP made THE mistake of giving her a ticket just to rub it in to DogVijay.
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Sadhvi was sidelined with the concurrence of Modi in the latest round. Did Modi/Nadda/Rajnath too bow to "media crooks and congi slaves"? I am in good company.syam wrote:When did I say bjp lost maha because of her? I said bjp will face set backs in future.pankajs wrote: BJP did not loose Maha because of Sadhvi nor will it loose Jharkhand, as is forecaster by pollsters because of her. In Bengal, Mumtaz has recovered some ground per reports and the by-election even before Sadhvi made he statement. Karma does not work in advance.Yes. you keep parroting what media crooks and congi slaves feeding you.BJP made THE mistake of giving her a ticket just to rub it in to DogVijay.
Modi keeps winning while uber-yinduvadi keep loosing their mind!
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Shame on you for equating Sadhvi with a nobody CON mla.syam wrote:lol. Now explain this. Sadhvi is bad. Sadhvi is loudmouth. Sadhvi doesn't know anything about anything.Congress MLA threatens to burn Sadhvi Pragya alive if she sets foot in Madhya Pradesh
On other hand, this congi mla will get away with his murder threat. All of you who are criticising her, are just enabling people like this congi mla. shame on you.
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For the record before someone claims WB 2021 as a payback for Sadhvi.
https://twitter.com/YRDeshmukh/status/1 ... 9025280001
https://twitter.com/YRDeshmukh/status/1 ... 9025280001
https://twitter.com/hrnext/status/1200047504667971584Yashwant Deshmukh @YRDeshmukh
Here is the final analysis of #WestBengalByElections . The BJP almost doubles it vote share from approx 20% to approx 40%. while TMC gains further 15% points to be ahead of BJP. Entire gain of both parties coming from Congress and CPM kitty. From approx 40%, now down to 10%.
While BJP will increase their tally in WB assembly at the cost of the rest, TMC seems to be comfortably placed to return.Anurag Shrivastava @hrnext
at the moment , TMC is unbeatable - they have at least 42-45% votes that solidly locked in . and in next couple of years just need to totally decimate CPM and Congress votes to be around 48-51% unbeatable number
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Are you having comprehending issue? why go personal?pankajs wrote:Shame on you for equating Sadhvi with a nobody CON mla.