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UB,

Political campaigns in the US are about money. You raise funds and hire a staff. Political consultants and campaign operators/organizers are mercenaries and are without ideology. They are about money. Note that Clinton impeachment advisor Mark Penn met with Trump on Monday. Some of these same people move from campaign to campaign, albeit within the same party most of the time. One of the reasons Trump had to use Manafort, who was bottom of the barrel, was that other political consultants didn’t want to be associated with Trump when HiC was essentially ordained as the next POTUS.
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KLNMurthy wrote: Pretty accurate analysis. Who are rhe lady & gentleman and what is the source of the video?
Aditya Tyagi and Rashmi Tantra. They are democrats, call themselves progressive Hindus which they named their channel as well. Aditya is from Illinois and Rashmi from Portland, Oregon where she teaches Tantra and Yoga.
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Kamala’s Karma! I highly recommend Rising, a news show on the net/YT. Krystal and Saagar are awesome. Great alternative to MSM fake news.
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Check it out especially after 14:10
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BSR Murthy wrote:Kamala’s Karma! I highly recommend Rising, a news show on the net/YT. Krystal and Saagar are awesome. Great alternative to MSM fake news.
Yeah they are pretty good, TJD too. But they are poorly informed about India and Kashmir as are most progressives and even Libertarians. Tulsi is the rarest of exceptions to this norm.
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Yes, unfortunately. I watch Jimmy Dore regularity as well. Aaron Mate’ Max Blumenthal, Michael Tracy all are good sources of honest info.
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WaPo:(( ::
Judged by the current polling in the four early states, the more-moderate candidates are prospering. To the surprise of many, Buttigieg is at the top of the field in Iowa and New Hampshire, according to the RealClearPolitics average of polls. No one would have predicted that last spring.
Biden trails Buttigieg, Sanders and Warren in those two states, which is hardly a comfortable place to be for someone who was the acknowledged leader in the race when he announced his candidacy and who continues to lead in national polling. But he is ahead in Nevada and he has a big lead in South Carolina, where strong support from African American voters gives him what he hopes will be a firewall in the event that he is swamped in Iowa and New Hampshire.
The possibility that the four early states could be won by three or even four different candidates is one big reason that Mike Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York, sees an opening for a campaign that skips those four and starts in the states that comprise Super Tuesday in early March.
There is very little to distinguish between these 4 except non-merit/gender/sexual preference: All seem equally clueless. Buttigieg, per UBCN estimates, will either win in SC or get hammered there: win because he will be seen as a WASP Veteran who makes the gori hearts go pitty-pat (Emma Darcy Terminology: you have either read these Classics at least second-hand, or not). One assumes with 97% certainty that TV-glued SC goris will not have read about his "position" preferences. OTOH, if news of **THAT** spreads like gossip does among gori community he is done for.

In Iowa they pride themselves on being liberal but even there I wonder...
So why did he become mayor in INDIANA, Land of Pence, Burton, Quayle and other poxes? Only because his dad was a rich citjen of the town.

If BuG does win in SC and Iowa, it's all over for Warren and Biden... and then BuG will get squashed in the more conservative states...
U c where this all leading..
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Meanwhile, this is why there is no reasonable challenge on the other side.

Majority of Republicans say Trump better president than Lincoln
A majority of Republicans say President Trump is a better leader than former President Lincoln, according to this week’s Economist/YouGov weekly tracking poll.
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BSR Murthy wrote:Yes, unfortunately. I watch Jimmy Dore regularity as well. Aaron Mate’ Max Blumenthal, Michael Tracy all are good sources of honest info.
To complicate matters you have Gunga Dins like Ro Khanna and Jaipal doing their BS in the meanwhile.
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Lincoln led the nation into a civil war that cost a million lives and basically trashed the nation, plus polarizing as deep as it gets.
Maybe today DT would have just struck a deal to build Trump Mansions all over the South, or somehow avoided the war. Converted the cotton fields to marijuana fields, Export-Quality.
DT sure did not make Abe's mistake of pretending to tell the truth: he does the opposite. A shotgun approach to making statements, promises.
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Another donkeyNeta kneels
Joe Sestak ends long-shot 2020 Democratic presidential campaign.
Sestak, who mounted unsuccessful bids for US Senate in 2010 and 2016, entered an already-crowded Democratic primary field in June hoping to leverage his career in the US Navy into a successful campaign, but did not qualify for any of the major Democratic presidential debates.
"The hour has become late to restore US leadership to this liberal world order, but Iraq is our lesson to remember," Sestak said in a video announcing his campaign in June. "Democrats and Republicans alike who cast their votes for the tragic misadventure in Iraq showed little understanding that while militaries can stop a problem, they can never fix a problem."

His departure Sunday leaves more than a dozen Democrats still vying for the nomination.
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vera_k wrote:Meanwhile, this is why there is no reasonable challenge on the other side.

Majority of Republicans say Trump better president than Lincoln
A majority of Republicans say President Trump is a better leader than former President Lincoln, according to this week’s Economist/YouGov weekly tracking poll.
The true judge of any Rep President is when he is compared to Reagan. Otherwise all are almost equal in Republican eyes.
To be fair, Even DT is fighting a vicious war, It may not be with guns or bayonets or for protecting cotton trade, but a war is being fought in Media and narratives.
Who knows, in couple of decades, DT too may get his own pedestal like so many Prez's of the past.
He is better than any Dem President of last 3-4 decades.
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The true judge of any Rep President is when he is compared to Reagan.
Several points of similarity:
1. Revolving-door Executive Branch. Reagan said the main criterion for Sec-level appts. was that "the candidate must not need the job".
2. Revolving-door WHOTUS: this time mainly due to indictments. Most of RR's crooks escaped prison unlike the present gen.
3. Economy went into the pakistan by 1982, but recovered fast by end of 1st term. Here the end of 1st term looks a bit shaky in many respects.
4. Worry about future of USA (and the world). Then it was MAD. Now it is ..(take a number, it's gonna be a long summer).
5. Lost the war in Afghanistan.
6. Conducted talks with the Pakiban. Even brought them to the WHOTUS and feted them as == to American Revolutionary War herrows.
7. Destabilization war: in Afghanistan (and Angola and Nicaragua?) then, in Syria now.
8. Media completely against POTUS/WHOTUS. Access to WHOTUS Press Conferences controlled, Sam Donaldson of ABC was where FOXnews is todin. CBS was sort-of where CNN is, but not nearly as rabid.
9. Govt. departments (except 5-gon) trashed. esp. EPA and Dept. of Education.
10. Econ. war against Nipponistan, vs. Cheen now.

Trump needs to invade a few Central/S. American nations, or if that's too tough, maybe a couple of South Sea islands?

BIG difference: California voted for RR then.
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CNN headlines are now how their own reporters are stupid.
Poll leaves CNN's Jon Dumbass fa*tless.
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On NATO, you may be charmed to know that some of the US leftist Left agrees with Trump, sort of:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019 ... e-obsolete

Trump Was Right Before He Was Wrong: NATO Should Be Obsolete
In an age where people around the world want to avoid war and to focus instead on the climate chaos that threatens future life on earth, NATO is an anachronism.
The three smartest words that Donald Trump uttered during his presidential campaign are “NATO is obsolete.” His adversary, Hillary Clinton, retorted that NATO was “the strongest military alliance in the history of the world.” Now that Trump has been in power, the White House parrots the same worn line that NATO is “the most successful Alliance in history, guaranteeing the security, prosperity, and freedom of its members.” But Trump was right the first time around: Rather than being a strong alliance with a clear purpose, this 70-year-old organization that is meeting in London on December 4 is a stale military holdover from the Cold War days that should have gracefully retired many years ago.
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See Enn Enn :(( about Donkeystans' face
Democratic Partys' Key Demographics are fragmenting.
I don't see why they are worried. The base of stupidity that binds all the candidates except TG is as solid as concrete.
Let's see: They still have a WASP man (Biden), another WASP man (Butte-Gig) and a WASP woman (Warren), and bonus of bonuses, at least one is jolly enough to be featured on Swedish Garden of Eden paintings. Wears a cute earring. In one ear. Adn a white carnation in the other.
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^^^^ :(( :(( :(( :(( :((

You beat me to it on posting the above news.

So Kamala Harris is out and Julian Castro is also out (where is he BTW?)

On Julian Castro, his own latinistas ditched him. Why? The latinistas are social & religion conservatives and they vote republican! And SJW of dumbocrats miss this big time. In fact the elite SJW Dumbocrats are actually *racists*.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnbbrand ... -does-yoga
Kamala Harris Drops Out Of Presidential Race On Twitter. Meanwhile, Tulsi Gabbard Does Yoga. :rotfl:
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I think Tea-ji's end game is to become Guv of HI.Already announced that she is not going to contest re-election to HOROTUS. Senate seat is strictly partisan and requires National patronage. But Guv is mostly local support which she can probably drum up as anti-establishment and pro-native HI traditions, while being acceptable to the military/developer lobbies.
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Meanwhile... next oral-podiatry exercise in progress: Butt-e-Gig calls all Trump supporters racists
Accusing Trump of racism has been an article of faith among the Democrats for years, and asking for evidence is a surefire way to get branded a racist oneself. Just two months prior to the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton famously declared half of Trump’s supporters as an irredeemable “basket of deplorables… racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic you name it.”
Democrats have mostly reacted to Buttigieg’s remark by calling it a true fact, or quibbling about semantics – saying that “looking the other way, at best” isn’t quite calling people racist outright.
Trump supporters, meanwhile, heard an echo of Clinton’s words, and pointed out that it didn’t work out so well for her in the end...

Others pointed out that Mayor Pete was pandering, projecting, or both. South Bend is a high-crime city, and Buttigieg has been taking heat from African-American residents over their treatment by the police. Nationally, his African-American support is below the margin of error, with the majority of black Democrats currently favoring former vice-president Joe Biden.
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UlanBatori wrote:I think Tea-ji's end game is to become Guv of HI.Already announced that she is not going to contest re-election to HOROTUS. Senate seat is strictly partisan and requires National patronage. But Guv is mostly local support which she can probably drum up as anti-establishment and pro-native HI traditions, while being acceptable to the military/developer lobbies.
Either that or run for Senate from NJ! But I think she still is the dark horse and quite a few will get trampled under it's well shod hooves.
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Cain Marko wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:I think Tea-ji's end game is to become Guv of HI.Already announced that she is not going to contest re-election to HOROTUS. Senate seat is strictly partisan and requires National patronage. But Guv is mostly local support which she can probably drum up as anti-establishment and pro-native HI traditions, while being acceptable to the military/developer lobbies.
Either that or run for Senate from NJ! But I think she still is the dark horse and quite a few will get trampled under it's well shod hooves.
Well shod indeed! My hunch is she will move to California and possibly run for Senate.
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A_Gupta wrote:On NATO, you may be charmed to know that some of the US leftist Left agrees with Trump, sort of:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019 ... e-obsolete

Trump Was Right Before He Was Wrong: NATO Should Be Obsolete
In an age where people around the world want to avoid war and to focus instead on the climate chaos that threatens future life on earth, NATO is an anachronism.
trumpulla has a gift for picking up an issue, that common people have instincts about, and break the establishment position on it..

but driven by ulterior self-serving motive and instead of fixing it, is merely interested in throwing stones at it...
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merely interested in throwing stones at it.
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Shocking! Give him some credit, hain? NATO bases offer great real estate for golf courses. Incirlik, Frankfurt-am-Main for example. (I don't know names of any others).
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1X32EB

Is there going to be a recession soon? People are calling this 'Quantitative Easing' by another name.

Fed is injecting liquidity into the market by buying Treasuries to the tune of 60 billion dollars per month.
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Gus wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:On NATO, you may be charmed to know that some of the US leftist Left agrees with Trump, sort of:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019 ... e-obsolete

Trump Was Right Before He Was Wrong: NATO Should Be Obsolete
In an age where people around the world want to avoid war and to focus instead on the climate chaos that threatens future life on earth, NATO is an anachronism.
trumpulla has a gift for picking up an issue, that common people have instincts about, and break the establishment position on it..

but driven by ulterior self-serving motive and instead of fixing it, is merely interested in throwing stones at it...
This is more a thing the extreme left and the isolationist right agree on, not the general public.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ds/602959/
In any case, Trump appears entirely indifferent to the clear, decisive advantage over Russia and China that the United States enjoys because of our European ties. We have 28 allies in NATO, as well as treaty allies Japan, South Korea, and Australia in the western Pacific, who will defend us when our backs are against the wall. This is the great power differential we enjoy with Moscow and Beijing.

The public, fortunately, understands just how important Europe remains to us. In a 2019 Chicago Council on Global Affairs poll, 73 percent of Americans said they support NATO. The great majority of Republican and Democratic leaders in Congress see the alliance as crucial for our future, as well.
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Clinton Donors Charged in Massive Campaign-Finance Scheme
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Eight people, including major Hillary Clinton donors and a witness in the Mueller investigation, have been charged in a massive campaign-finance scheme, the Justice Department announced on Tuesday.

The individuals conspired to “make and conceal conduit and excessive campaign contributions” valued around $3.5 million in the 2016 election campaign and beyond, according to the announcement. Although the indictment does not specifically name the recipient of the donations, it is clear that the contributions went to groups allied with Clinton’s presidential campaign.

One of those charged, George Nader, is a Lebanese American businessman who was a witness in the Mueller report. Nader was also caught in 2018 in possession of child *****, but received partial immunity in exchange for testimony in the Mueller investigation. He faces between 15 to 40 years in prison if convicted on child-***** charges.

Also indicted on campaign-finance charges was Ahmad “Andy” Khawaja, who hosted a fundraiser for Clinton in Los Angeles in 2016 and who conspired to conceal campaign donations from 2016 to 2018. Khawaja owns an online-payments company used by, among others, debt collectors, offshore gamblers, and *****. The company has made numerous campaign donations to both Democrats and Republicans.

Nader also gained access to the Trump administration, meeting with the president on several occasions. Nader has experience in international diplomacy, has served as a diplomatic conduit to the Middle East and Russia, and was an informal adviser to the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates.

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^^^^^

One reader has contributed this opinion:
JG 2 hours ago

The Clinton Foundation is "organized crime" at its finest……………..

Here is a good, concise summary of how the Clinton Foundation works as a tax free international money laundering scheme. It may eventually prove to be the largest political criminal enterprise in U.S. history. This is a textbook case on how you hide foreign money sent to you and repackage it to be used for your own purposes. All tax free. Here's how it works:………….

1. You create a separate foreign "charity." In this case, the Clinton's set it up in Canada………………..

2. Foreign oligarchs and governments, then donate to this Canadian charity. In this case, over 1,000 did -- contributing mega millions. I'm sure they did this out of the goodness of their hearts, and expected nothing in return. (Imagine Putin's buddies waking up one morning and just deciding to send untold millions to a Canadian charity)………………..

3. The Canadian charity then bundles these separate donations and makes a massive donation to the Clinton Foundation……………..

4. The Clinton Foundation and the cooperating Canadian charity claim Canadian law prohibits the identification of individual donors…………….

5. The Clinton Foundation then "spends" some of this money for legitimate good works programs. Unfortunately, experts believe this is on the order of 10%. Much of the balance goes to enrich the Clinton's, pay salaries to untold numbers of hangers on, and fund lavish travel, etc. Again, virtually tax free, which means you and I are subsidizing it…………………

6. The Clinton Foundation, with access to the world's best accountants, somehow fails to report much of this on their tax filings. They discover these "clerical errors" and begin the process of re-filing 5 years of tax returns…………………..

7. Net result -- foreign money goes into the Clinton's pockets tax free and untraceable back to the original donor. This is the textbook definition of money laundering. Oh, by the way, the Canadian "charity" includes as a principal one Frank Giustra. Google him. He is the guy who was central to the formation of Uranium One, the Canadian company that somehow acquired massive U.S. uranium interests and then sold them to an organization controlled by Russia. This transaction required U.S. State Department approval, and guess who was Secretary of State when the approval was granted………………………
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Here is the US DOJ announcement:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/californ ... ntribution
A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia indicted Ahmad “Andy” Khawaja, 48, of Los Angeles, California, on Nov. 7, 2019, along with George Nader, Roy Boulos, Rudy Dekermenjian, Mohammad “Moe” Diab, Rani El-Saadi, Stevan Hill and Thayne Whipple.
The indictment also alleges that, from March 2016 through 2018, Khawaja conspired with Boulos, Dekermenjian, Diab, El-Saadi, Hill, and Whipple to conceal Khawaja’s excessive contributions, which totaled more than $1.8 million, to various political committees. Among other things, these contributions allegedly allowed Khawaja to host a private fundraiser for a presidential candidate in 2016 and a private fundraising dinner for an elected official in 2018.
Previously Ahmad "Andy" Khawaja was in other trouble:
https://apnews.com/4b20d70e110c49329f19865ae8cfa8c7
Firm tied to political donor to pay $110M in federal probe
May 24, 2019
The federal probe stemmed in part from a 2018 investigation by The Associated Press that showed Khawaja’s company had helped *****, shady debt collectors and offshore gamblers access the international banking system, often by using dummy foreign corporations and fake websites to disguise the underlying business. The reporting was based on thousands of internal company records obtained by the AP.
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Wow! August 2018 story
https://www.businessinsider.com/ahmad-a ... 018-8?IR=T

Underlined is of particular interest re: USCIRF.
The Lebanese-born Khawaja gave more than $4 million to Clinton's failed presidential campaign and other Democrats, then began extending his largesse to Republicans after a lunch with Republican fundraiser Elliott Broidy two weeks after Trump clinched the presidency.

Within days of that lunch, Khawaja met Trump at a $5,000-per-person transition fundraiser in Manhattan. Soon after he contributed $1 million to his inaugural committee, eventually earning himself a photo with the president inside the Oval Office.

......

In all, Khawaja, his company and its executives have contributed at least $6 million to politicians and political organizations since late 2015, according to an AP review of disclosure reports.

Since Trump's inauguration, the company and its executives have given nearly $1 million more to Republican candidates and committees, including $200,000 from Khawaja to Rep. Ron DeSantis, a Trump-backed candidate running for governor in Florida.

Donations to Democrats include nearly $2 million to the Democratic National Committee, along with a who's who of top candidates, including Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill.

In June, the Senate minority leader, New York Democrat Chuck Schumer, appointed Khawaja as one of nine members on the US Commission on International Religious Freedom.

In April, Charlie Kirk, the outspoken head of the pro-Trump super PAC Turning Point USA, touted Khawaja on Twitter as a beneficiary of Trump's tax plan.

Nobody in Washington, Democrat or Republican, appears to have questioned how Khawaja earned his money, and what exactly Khawaja might hope to gain from his political giving is not entirely clear.
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Further, one year ago:
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/ ... ed-Vatican
Allied Wallet CEO Andy Khawaja Recognized by the Vatican and Pope Francis
Dr. Andy Khawaja, CEO of Allied Wallet - a globally leading provider of mainstream online payment processing, was blessed and honored as an Ambassador for Peace on December 3rd by Pope Francis and the Vatican.
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even fox and trump stopped talking about clinton.
brf, ahead the curve. 8)
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Is the good Doctor any relative of Kaleem Khawaja, "NASA Engineer" and CEO of "NRI-SAHI" and a patron Prophet of the Indian Muslim Council? The Herrow who claimed to have "stopped the Mau riots in UP with One Phone Call" (same way as he started it, presumably).
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hanumadu wrote: Is there going to be a recession soon? People are calling this 'Quantitative Easing' by another name.

Fed is injecting liquidity into the market by buying Treasuries to the tune of 60 billion dollars per month.
Fed is doing the right thing belatedly after doing the wrong thing hurriedly. In Dec 2018, Fed raised interest rates only to come back next year and lower interest rates.

This was stupid at several levels. Fed was targeting inflation. Inflation is benign. In fact outside of energy, inflation in several areas is below the average inflation! For example take the prices of coffee. Inspite of rise in consumption since 2000, here is what the BLS had to say
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, prices for coffee were 26.95% higher in 2018 versus 2000, which means a $5.39 difference in value. As the Official Data Foundation notes, this means that between 2000 and 2018, coffee experienced an average inflation of 1.33 percent per year. The overall inflation rate during this same period was 2.11 percent, meaning coffee has actually been affected less by inflation than other goods.
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/histor ... tte-prices

Point is, even for a commodity that is seeing growth in consumption, its price inflation is below the average background inflation. To me that is deflation since there is enough supply that it more than surpasses the demand.

Food and Energy are volatiles. For example if the price of apples are rising, you will move on to a different food. If your food basket is diverse (and not just rice and wheat) then you can move around to different food items.

Given that, it is not recession, but a benign deflation that is exacerbated during financial shocks. This is the pattern since last 2 decades in developed economies, lead by Japan.

Hence Fed's focus on inflation was just plain stupid. Now they realize that its focus should not be on inflation but deflation. That is economy needs to be inflated to ensure that there is job and wage growth. If there is job and wage growth, every segment of the population can be employed.

New ideas like EV (Tesla) or shared economy based companies (Uber, Oola, Lyft, AirBnB, WeWork) provide a platform for increasing productivity (for example less gas per mile or reuse of infrastructure or capital). This increasing productivity further puts pressure on inflation. For example, if you find hotel prices costly, you will sign up for AirBnB and might actually get a better deal! This is nothing but paying_guest.com if you may put 1960s into 2020s.

So think of fed easing up the money spighot to get the job growth going again. Hope here is that with job and wage growth, there will be rise in inflation.
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A_Gupta wrote: This is more a thing the extreme left and the isolationist right agree on, not the general public.
I had the following questions for the general public (they are smart, some of them are VPs or Directors):

1. Why is US in Ukraine and Crimea (also what is the difference between Baklava and Balaklava?)
2. What does NATO membership mean in post-cold war world?

I am still trying to look beyond the blank stares I am getting. Please explain me what is the general public thinking on the above two questions (assuming they even know where Ukraine and Crimea is) and what does NATO actually mean beyond their warehouse club membership.
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disha wrote: I am still trying to look beyond the blank stares I am getting. Please explain me what is the general public thinking on the above two questions (assuming they even know where Ukraine and Crimea is) and what does NATO actually mean beyond their warehouse club membership.
It means presenting a narrative, often from suspect or tainted sources, that fits your political views.
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Mort Walker wrote:
disha wrote: I am still trying to look beyond the blank stares I am getting. Please explain me what is the general public thinking on the above two questions (assuming they even know where Ukraine and Crimea is) and what does NATO actually mean beyond their warehouse club membership.
It means presenting a narrative, often from suspect or tainted sources, that fits your political views.
Precisely. And the common unsuspecting public who are more interested in jobs, health, college, shopping deals, restaurants, watching movies etc are thrown under the bus. As if the the common public want US to be in NATO so that they are taxed more for protecting fUK from Russia and stop the rise of the fuhrer!

I do not think the common people currently understands what US being GloboCop entails. They have seen Iraq, Syria, Libya and they are tired. The common public wants to get on their lives and not lose their sons and daughters, sisters and brothers, fathers and mothers in endless wars.

But when Trump asks in his colorful language to NATO - 'show me the results (or money)', immediately the mediapimps go about how bad he is treating other leaders.
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US is not in Crimea: Russia is. In fact Crimea is in Russia, as recent US maps showed to great :(( in the usual quarters. But US is in Syria where the US has absolutely no right to be.
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