Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 05 Jan 2020 05:14

US opens military training for bakis
https://www.dawn.com/news/1526230/milit ... eration-us

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2020 09:23

No Sikh threatened, fight was between 2 Muslim groups: Pakistan - ToI

Pakistan interior ministry tried to pass off the incident as literally a “fly in a teacup”. According to them, two men, Saqlain and Mumtaz Ali, visited a tea shop near the gurdwara and complained of a fly in their tea. In response, the owners — Zaman (Hassan’s uncle), Iftikhar and Adnan (Hassan’s brother) —attacked them, resulting in a scuffle.

Explanation like 'short circuit in air vacuum'

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 05 Jan 2020 13:06

What about the cries of “ Sikhan, main aarehyaan?”

Did Niazi just realise he’ll have to go through 1 billion Hindus to get at the Sikhs?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2020 14:46

See, when a country has convinced its febrile citizens that they have defeated Hindustan in all wars (see that reaction of the anchor in the video posted in the previous page when Nur Khan admits that all wars were initiated by 'us'), that Kashmir is the 'jugular vein', that Djinns will catch all the falling bombs from IAF planes in a net, that a PAF pilot shot down 5 IAF fighters in one go, that they are on top at Siachen etc. etc., then claiming this attack on Nankana Sahib Gurdwara as a local fight over a fly in a teacup is absolutely no big deal. Par for their course.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 05 Jan 2020 17:00

SSridhar wrote:See, when a country has convinced its febrile citizens that they have defeated Hindustan in all wars (see that reaction of the anchor in the video posted in the previous page when Nur Khan admits that all wars were initiated by 'us'), that Kashmir is the 'jugular vein', that Djinns will catch all the falling bombs from IAF planes in a net, that a PAF pilot shot down 5 IAF fighters in one go, that they are on top at Siachen etc. etc., then claiming this attack on Nankana Sahib Gurdwara as a local fight over a fly in a teacup is absolutely no big deal. Par for their course.

SSridhar Garu :

Sir Ji, with due respect and reverence, methinks, it was the Late Air Marshal Asghar Khan who stated that all wars were started by the Terroristanis!

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Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 05 Jan 2020 17:31

Sikh youth killed by unidentified person in Peshawar: Report – ANI

PESHAWAR: A Sikh youth was killed by an unidentified person in Peshawar, Pakistan media reported on Sunday, citing police.

The body of the person, identified as Rowinder Singh, was found in the Chamkani police
Station area of Peshawar.

Police said that the Sikh person was a resident of Shangla District of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province and had come to Peshawar to shop for a wedding.

The family of the victim got to know about his death from a phone call by the unidentified assailant, suggesting that the incident could be a case of personal enmity.

The dead body has been shifted to a hospital for postmortem.

Further details are awaited.

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Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 05 Jan 2020 17:42

FBR claims loss of Rs330b due to import compression - Shahbaz Rana

ISLAMABAD: Amid criticism over missing the revenue collection target by a wide margin, the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) has claimed that it sustained losses of roughly Rs330 billion due to $6 billion worth of import compression in first half of the current fiscal year.

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Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 05 Jan 2020 18:43

India condemns 'targeted killing' of Sikh community member in Pakistan's Peshawar – PTI

NEW DELHI: India on Sunday strongly condemned the "targeted killing" of a minority Sikh community member in Pakistan's Peshawar.

The ministry of external affairs (MEA) said Pakistan should stop "prevaricating" and take immediate action to apprehend and give exemplary punishment to the perpetrators of the crime.

"India strongly condemns the targeted killing of minority Sikh community member in Peshawar that follows the recent despicable vandalism and desecration of the holy Gurdwara Sri Janam Asthan atNankana Sahiband the unresolved case of abduction, forced conversion and marriage of a Sikh girl Jagjit Kaur," the MEA said.

"India strongly condemns the targeted killing of minority Sikh community member in Peshawar that follows the recent despicable vandalism and desecration of the holy Gurdwara Sri Janam Asthan at Nankana Sahib and the unresolved case of abduction, forced conversion and marriage of a Sikh girl Jagjit Kaur," the MEA said.

It said the government of Pakistan should act in defence of their own minorities instead of "preaching sermons" about it to other countries.

In Video : Sikh youth killed by unidentified assailant in Peshawar, Pakistan

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Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 05 Jan 2020 18:50

In Video : 4 member SGPC’s committee to go to Pakistan over Nankana Sahib incident - Source: ANI

To get first aid information, four member committee of Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) will go to Pakistan, said Maheshinder Singh Grewal of Akali Dal leader on January 05. “The incident that happened in Pakistan’s Nankana Sahib is condemnable. Without any governmental and community support, such act can’t take place,” said Maheshinder Singh Grewal. A large number of Muslims had gathered and shouted anti-Sikh slogans outside the Nankana Sahib Gurdwara in Pakistan's Punjab on January 03. Earlier, stones were also pelted at the Gurdwara led by the family of a boy who had allegedly abducted a Sikh girl Jagjit Kaur, daughter of the Gurdwara's panthi. The protesters also threatened to destroy the gurdwara and build a mosque in its place.

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kit · Post by **kit** » 05 Jan 2020 22:01

mappunni · Post by **mappunni** » 05 Jan 2020 22:09

kit wrote:

Not in jeans but in their underwear

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 05 Jan 2020 23:11

Quite understandable that inbred folk would confuse jeans with genes

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 06 Jan 2020 00:01

mappunni wrote:
kit wrote:
Not in jeans but in their underwear

Not a surprise that Most of those involved in child sex grooming offence in UK are Pak origin

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 06 Jan 2020 00:54

https://youtu.be/-IGrqFGmp8c

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Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 06 Jan 2020 03:00

Guddu wrote:US opens military training for bakis
https://www.dawn.com/news/1526230/milit ... eration-us

Looks like the developing Iran situation and the Pakis ability to blackmail the Americans using it, has given the Pakis a 'get out of jail card' for the umpteenth time.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 06 Jan 2020 04:36

With the hanging of Brigadier Raja Rizwan, there is a need for the US to recruit assets from the next generation of Pakistani officers.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 06 Jan 2020 12:42

More Indians should be jailed in Pakistan so that the idea of Pakistan is understood by all.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1526538/20-in ... -to-lahore
20 Indian fishermen released, seen off to Lahore
The Newspaper's Staff Reporter, January 06, 2020
KARACHI: The government of Pakistan released 20 Indian fishermen as a gesture of goodwill from the Malir District Prison on Sunday.
....
“We were arrested at sea by the Pakistan Coast Guard for crossing over to Pakistan waters in November 2018. At the time we braced ourselves for the worst. But our 14 months in jail has helped clear all misconceptions about this country we used to view as our enemy earlier,” said Indian fisherman Gir Somnath on his release from prison.
“Whatever we used to hear about Pakistan in the news when we were in India seemed like a piece of fiction while doing time in jail here,” he added.
“We are taking back with us good memories of Malir jail. We never felt like we were in another country here. The jail staff was kind to us. They told us that they knew that we were here due to our ill fate. We were not real criminals so they were not treating us as such while extending all kinds of facilities to us,” he added. After the release of these fishermen, there are 199 Indian prisoners remaining in the jail of whom 189 are fishermen and 10 happen to be civilians.
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Gautam

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 06 Jan 2020 19:41

The only hope, and time tested policy, for terroristan..

Hope against hope

The economy shrank in 2019 as the policy of stabilisation was actively pursued. With the IMF package, the external sector was moderately managed and the rupee held its ground after a free fall. Higher taxes, falling wages, inflation and fewer jobs did test the endurance of households though. The political chaos, Chinese reluctance, IMF’s pressure and the lack of enthusiasm in the private sector were still adding to the worries.

There is a flying chance that competing powers — the United States and China — indulge in a price war over the money bag dedicated for Pakistan. Its dividends will certainly be huge. Remember the dollar windfall following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 and how the West rediscovered Pakistan after it joined the war on terror in 2001?

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 07 Jan 2020 01:57

You forgot 1965. The chutiyas thought if they attacked J&K then India will keep itself confined to that local theater of war. Result Indian Army was on the outskirts of Lahore.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 07 Jan 2020 13:17

Statutory warning! Contains J-madam's picture. Minors, senior citizens, members with cardiac problems or ill placed Rahu/Ketu/Saturn, open at your own risk!
https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/526492 ... m=newsfeed
Shrieen Mazari voices against ethnic cleansing of Muslims by Modi's fascist govt
05 January,2020
ISLAMABAD (APP) – Minister of Human Rights Dr Shrieen M. Mazari in her Twitter message on the Kashmir Self Determination Day here on Sunday said that over 70 years ago on this day, the UN passed resolution committing to Kashmiris their right to self determination.
“A shameful reflection of the UN system that remains unimplemented even today while India illegally annexes an Occupied territory which is a war crime”, the Minister Twitted.
......
Gautam

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 07 Jan 2020 17:19

GUTTERSNIPES OF THE TERRORISTANI ARMED FORCES, BUREAUCRATS, POLITICIAN AND RELIGIOUS LEADERSHIP!

PTI minister Fawad Chaudhry on Sunday acknowledged that he came to blows with anchorperson Mubashir Luqman at a wedding in Lahore.

"There was a scuffle that broke out. A small fight broke out. In a fight, as usually is the case, he may have got one (slap) in, I may have hit one," said the minister during Geo News talk show "Naya Pakistan" on Sunday evening. This is the second such incident involving the federal minister; he slapped journalist Sami Ibrahim during a wedding in June last year.

Meanwhile Luqman, who had refrained from publicly commenting on the incident, submitted an application to register a First Information Report (FIR) against the minister, it emerged late Sunday night.

The Valima ceremony of Punjab Irrigation Minister Mohsin Leghari’s son, where the altercation took place, was held earlier in the day. Eyewitnesses told Dawn that PTI leaders Jahangir Tareen, Ishaq Khakwani and Chaudhry were busy in conversation when Luqman arrived. They said a vitriolic exchange of words took place between the two (Chaudhry and Luqman). The minister told Luqman that he would sue him for defamation.

"Chaudhry threatened Luqman that he would not spare him, then slapped and shoved him," an eyewitness said.

As the two scuffled, PTI leaders and some journalists stepped in.

The physical altercation was apparently over a video Luqman uploaded on his YouTube channel in which he and anchorperson Rai Saqib discussed TikTok stars Hareem Shah and Sandal Khattak, and videos allegedly involving Chaudhry and Punjab Information Minister Fayyazul Hassan Chohan.

The show claimed that the two girls had several videos of the science and technology minister and could release them any time. The show also claimed that the Punjab information minister had close links with the girls and had been introducing them to top political figures of the PTI government.

Luqman moves to register FIR

In his application submitted at the Model Town police station late Sunday night, the anchorperson said he was attending the event along with Punjab Chief Minister Usman Buzdar, Punjab Governor Chaudhry Sarwar, Tareen and various federal ministers and provincial ministers.

Luqman said he was talking to his friends when Chaudhry attacked him along with 10-12 of his mussala ghundas (private guards).

"They subjected me to severe violence," he said, adding that after threatening him of serious consequences and of murder, they left the site of the incident.

According to Luqman, two witnesses had seen the whole incident.

He claimed that prior to this incident, the federal minister had called and threatened to have him killed if he did not stop his allegations.

In his application, Luqman said a case should be registered against Chaudhry and the others. While his application has been submitted, the FIR has not yet been registered.

Fawad defends himself

Fawad first confirmed the scuffle on Twitter and later while talking to Geo News.

"I am a minister but that doesn't mean my respect can be allowed to be tarnished like this. It can't be that anyone should be able to accuse us and then we should be told not to react."

In response to whether he thought he did the right thing, Chaudhry said: "Of course. It was my right. When you level such allegations anyone will react."

Chaudhry denied reports that he had guards around him during the alleged brawl. "People who know me know that I don't roam around with guards. In Islamabad I am alone and here too I was alone," he said.

When the host pointed out that this was the second time Chaudhry had slapped someone and asked whether it was a case of poor impulse control, the minister said: "Others criticise too. But Ibrahim and Luqman, can you honestly say they are journalists? They are all in the profession incidentally."

"Everyone has a tolerance level. I face a lot of criticism. But I have not even blocked people on Twitter," said Chaudhry.

He said that he had complained to the prime minister's aide on accountability, Shahzad Akbar, about Luqman's show and had also called the director general of Federal Investigation Agency's cyber wing, but did not get the desired response.

When the talk show host expressed concern over the fact that a minister had been unable to move the relevant organisations for a response and what that means for the common man, Chaudhry said that was what the PMRA (Pakistan Media Regulatory Authority) law had been established for.

"But the problem is, the army says they will do their own accountability, the judges say the same, and the media also says they will make their own laws and do their own accountability.

"So then the politicians are left to do this."

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 07 Jan 2020 22:55

'If Iranian generalcan be droned for terrorism, why not a Pakistani general?' - Chidanand Rajghatta

WASHINGTON: Amid widespread misgivings in the US Congress and among American analysts about the assassination of a serving general of a sovereign nation, the Trump administration is belatedly making the case that Iranian General Qassim Suleimani was a terrorist and a war criminal who should have been targeted a long time ago, even though he was not on any global proscribed list.

In fact, top administration officials are going so far as to link Iran and Suleimani to 9/11, even though the US Commission that carried out a monumental inquiry into the attack found no such connection. The 9/11 attack was carried out by Sunni extremists, mostly from Saudi Arabia, who by most accounts had little or no connection to Shia-majority Iran, a hated regional rival.

US vice-president Mike Pence was among those who wheeled out this 9/11 connection in a series of tweets listing Suleimani’s purported terrorist activities, alleging that he “assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the 12 terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.”

Pence was eviscerated by analysts for “gas-lighting” the American public, with experts arguing that the idea that Suleimani would assist in 9/11 — knowingly or otherwise — made no sense, because besides being Shia, he actually cooperated with the US government against the Taliban in Afghanistan, which hosted the 9/11 plotters and perpetrators.

Indeed, the assassination of general Suleimani Why Suleimani’s killing is bigger than that of Osama opened a can of worms for the Trump administration with some Af-Pak experts asking why Washington should not target Pakistani generals who have a more established record of backing and carrying out terrorist attacks.

"Important point: why aren’t the Americans confronting the Taliban masters in Pakistan in a similar manner? The Taliban and their masters in Rawalpindi are responsible for the killing of 3500 US servicemen in Afghanistan," asked Saad Mohseni, a prominent Afghan entrepreneur.

And from a US military veteran on Twitter: So Americans killed by a foreign proxy group are worthy of revenge when it is Iran providing the support, but when it is Pakistan supporting the Taliban and HQN killing Americans in AFG they get a peace deal and Pakistan gets aid.

Several US military commanders and administration officials have accused Pakistan’s military intelligence agency ISI of using Taliban proxies to kill American personnel in Afghanistan with no retribution from successive administrations in Washington except for aid cuts and downgraded ties.

Earlier this week, US secretary of state Mike Pompeo revealed in a tweet that he had phoned Pakistan's Chief of Staff General Bajwa and to brief him about "US defensive action to kill Qassim Suleimani," adding that "the #Iran regime’s actions in the region are destabilizing and our resolve in protecting American interests, personnel, facilities, and partners will not waver." It was not clear if Pompeo intended it to be a warning to Bajwa and Pakistan, which in the eyes of some US analysts has long carried out a covert proxy war against US forces in Afghanistan.

Separately, Washington is rife with speculation as to why Trump decided to go in for such precipitate action against Suleimani that is resulting in something the President has pointedly sought to avoid: deploying more US troops abroad. One explanation is that Trump felt he looked weak after his 2019 decision to call off an air-strike against Iran after it downed the US surveillance drone.

There is also conjecture that Trump resented being trolled by Suleimani on social media. The Iranian general was apparently quite adept on Twitter, frequently taunting Trump, including calling him a “bartender” and a “casino manager.”

There are also more serious wag-the-dog explanations for the strike, with one prominent American scribe saying it is "hard to decouple his (Sulemani’s) killing from the impeachment saga." Indeed, the impeachment saga has been blown off the news cycle, at least for now.

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Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 08 Jan 2020 04:59

g.sarkar wrote:Statutory warning! Contains J-madam's picture. Minors, senior citizens, members with cardiac problems or ill placed Rahu/Ketu/Saturn, open at your own risk!
https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/526492 ... m=newsfeed
Shrieen Mazari voices against ethnic cleansing of Muslims by Modi's fascist govt
05 January,2020
ISLAMABAD (APP) – Minister of Human Rights Dr Shrieen M. Mazari in her Twitter message on the Kashmir Self Determination Day here on Sunday said that over 70 years ago on this day, the UN passed resolution committing to Kashmiris their right to self determination.
“A shameful reflection of the UN system that remains unimplemented even today while India illegally annexes an Occupied territory which is a war crime”, the Minister Twitted.
......
Gautam

Looks like madam ran out of blue nail polish. Life is tough in paxiland

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 08 Jan 2020 05:44

^^and some hair dye..and lots of plastic for plastic surgery

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 08 Jan 2020 06:42

ArjunPandit wrote:^^and some hair dye..and lots of plastic for plastic surgery

Being an old timer, her grey hair reminded me of the style Mrs. Indira Gandhi had. Maybe the madam has a sub-conscious desire to become a jangi PM like Mrs. Gandhi.
Gautam

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 08 Jan 2020 06:44

g.sarkar wrote:
ArjunPandit wrote:^^and some hair dye..and lots of plastic for plastic surgery
Being an old timer, her grey hair reminded me of the style Mrs. Indira Gandhi had.
Gautam

if indira gandhi were a man she would have still looked more handsome

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 08 Jan 2020 06:55

You are right saar! Her is a face that sunk a thousand ships. But I was talking of the hair estyle and sub-conscious desires lurking under her disturbed head.
Gautam

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 08 Jan 2020 12:48

https://www.facebook.com/bhagwaism/phot ... n__=EEHH-R
Now this is the part of Iran that Yemricaans should bomb!!

wig · Post by **wig** » 08 Jan 2020 13:01

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/littl ... ther-22901
Little hope for justice, says slain Pak Sikh’s brother
excerpts

“The management of the channel I work for, has close association with Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan. He took notice of the incident, but nothing has been done on my complaint. I do not expect justice. I had approached the MP and federal minister, who looks after minorities here, but in vain. No local official has cooperated with me. When being a journalist I am being subjected to such discrimination, one can imagine what would be the plight of a common member of the minority community in Pakistan,” he said.

and

Harmeet is with his family at his native place Chakesar town in Shangla district of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwah province. He said the minorities — the Sikhs, Hindus and Christians — were virtually suppressed and an atmosphere prevailed to instil a sense of insecurity and fear among them.
“Despite several protests staged by locals and other organisations, the government has not woken up from its deep slumber,” he said.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 08 Jan 2020 17:22

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vinod · Post by **vinod** » 08 Jan 2020 19:24

Dawood can be taken out by drone now!

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 08 Jan 2020 23:15

https://youtu.be/Z2TDJgg9ZVg
What da F...+!!!
What has Hamid M eaten???
Is he getting ready for 72???

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 09 Jan 2020 04:16

^His lifafa from ISPR is probably running late due to economic crunch so he is acting up a bit. He will be back to regular programming in a bit.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 09 Jan 2020 04:41

Three convicted of sexually abusing school girl in Oxford

Naim Khan, 41, of no fixed abode, Mohammed Nazir, 44, of Wood Farm Road, Oxford, and Raheem Ahmed, 42, of no fixed abode had all denied a string of charges alleging rapes, indecent assaults and drugs supply.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 09 Jan 2020 19:08

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 155123.cms
What is this??:

1.Showcasing and shadow boxing with India about possible 'Quad' Exercise
2.In case of the ME conflagration and fallout.
Looking at submarine rescue etc, me thinks more of Chin worry/or both worried about Underwater assets being targeted in the IOR??

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 09 Jan 2020 20:02

https://youtu.be/U30i0EIIFMg
Looks like with the tweaking of the bill: Bajwa may stay until he is 64!!!

Looks like the Army has drafted the bill and asked the selected/elected abduls to just sign it

May/Shall all just to show that there is some dem-crazy!!
As Sethi says who will object if the Chief Selector says I want to stay for another term! Hain ji

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 09 Jan 2020 22:15

Any news on Ejaz Haider? He has been AWOL for long. The last he was active was on a Youtube channel about current affairs which flopped.
I am checking to see if he did something which made his erstwhile ISI/Army masters add him to the missing persons list

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 10 Jan 2020 01:24

Vips wrote:Any news on Ejaz Haider? He has been AWOL for long. The last he was active was on a Youtube channel about current affairs which flopped.
I am checking to see if he did something which made his erstwhile ISI/Army masters add him to the missing persons list

He still writes in friday times

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 10 Jan 2020 01:56

He was involved in an attempt to set up an English-only channel (a rarity in Pakiland), there were some videos on youtube but he didn't get much traction. If that was an ISPR sponsored initiative, they probably bet on the wrong guy because nobody (in the target audience) likes to hear a pompous gasbag drone on about stuff that they care little about (even though that sort of thing impresses Pakis).

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 10 Jan 2020 03:51

Vips wrote:Any news on Ejaz Haider? He has been AWOL for long. The last he was active was on a Youtube channel about current affairs which flopped.
I am checking to see if he did something which made his erstwhile ISI/Army masters add him to the missing persons list

On Twitter and made stinky post on Paki Sarkar's hubris on present Iran US confrontation.