2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 14 Jan 2020 03:39

What’s happening is sad’: Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella on amended citizenship law

“I would love to see a Bangladeshi immigrant who comes to India and creates the next unicorn in India or becomes the next CEO of Infosys,” he said.

V_Raman · Post by **V_Raman** » 14 Jan 2020 04:09

He is in a position where he cannot say anything else. The system has him trapped! Remember that he is an American and a CEO of a company and area which has high % of Woke crowd. Just because he is a PIO does not mean he is an Indian.

Raveen · Post by **Raveen** » 14 Jan 2020 04:33

Gerard wrote:What’s happening is sad’: Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella on amended citizenship law

“I would love to see a Bangladeshi immigrant who comes to India and creates the next unicorn in India or becomes the next CEO of Infosys,” he said.

Another uncle Tom...a man who himself arrived in the US on a visa wants India to abolish visas and travel documents. Irony committed suicide in uncle Tom's Seattle cabin.

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 14 Jan 2020 06:35

^^I said so many years ago. One has to question the intelligence of these morons. On a lighter note, "Nadella" sounds like a female version of the Mexican word "Nada" (zero/ghanta).

pandyan · Post by **pandyan** » 14 Jan 2020 06:39

Statement from Satya Nadella
https://twitter.com/MicrosoftIndia/stat ... 4639589376

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 14 Jan 2020 06:44

^^Completely banal statement. Sounds like something written by a 3rd grader for a "country of the week: India" assignment in elementary school.

This guy has apparently never heard of a Parsi Tata or Godrej, or the hordes of Hindoo/Sikh Punjabis and Hindoo Sindhis fleeing persecution in RoP lands and now well-to-do professionals, businessmen etc etc in India. He is still "hoping" that immigrants can make good in India.

banrjeer · Post by **banrjeer** » 14 Jan 2020 06:45

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 236420.cms

A welcome event. Hope the university is dismantled one day and people stop hiring from there.

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 14 Jan 2020 06:50

pandyan wrote:Statement from Satya Nadella
https://twitter.com/MicrosoftIndia/stat ... 4639589376

Many a Parsi immigrant has already done that in India.

banrjeer · Post by **banrjeer** » 14 Jan 2020 06:53

KL Dubey wrote:^^Completely banal statement. Sounds like something written by a 3rd grader for a "country of the week: India" assignment in elementary school.

He joins the list:

Satya Nadella, Raghuram Rajan, Abhijit Banerjee, Pramila Jaypal (fought for Somalis refugees but can't stand it when they are non muslims of Indian origin)

Hope Sundar Pichai keeps quiet or recognizes the plight of the CAA people. Their stories need to be heard. There should be a funded campaign to help them in states that have opposed CAA.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 14 Jan 2020 06:56

Larsen & Toubro was founded by two Danish born engineers Henning Holck-Larsen and Søren Kristian Toubro.

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 14 Jan 2020 06:57

banrjeer wrote: Hope Sundar Pichai keeps quiet or recognizes the plight of the CAA people. Their stories need to be heard. There should be a funded campaign to help them in states that have opposed CAA.

So far (as of today's news), we know that Pichai takes his morning shyte only after 7 am and thereafter eats an omelette:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gad ... 204365.cms

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 14 Jan 2020 09:25

Gerard wrote:Larsen & Toubro was founded by two Danish born engineers Henning Holck-Larsen and Søren Kristian Toubro.

That was pre-Independence. Try applying to immigrate to Denmark (as an Indian) today.

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 14 Jan 2020 09:44

^^

Just like Bollywood wants free advertisement by making use of these "opportunities"

Satya and other CEOs ***have to*** support immigration because they rely on it in the US and use moral arguments for the same. Otherwise they will be called hypocrites.

We have to be able to counter when people say things for their profit and not the benefit of the country and its people

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 14 Jan 2020 09:52

For pure comic relief!

Nobody dishes out to pakis the way Tarek Fatah does

Apologies its only for hindi/urdu/punjabi audience

Part 2

tandav · Post by **tandav** » 14 Jan 2020 10:03

sudarshan wrote:
pandyan wrote:Statement from Satya Nadella
https://twitter.com/MicrosoftIndia/stat ... 4639589376

Many a Parsi immigrant has already done that in India.

I for one support Nadella here... there should be priority access for outstanding legal immigrants to come to India and create/setup/run institutions of excellence... we must attract the best in the World to our shores.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Jan 2020 10:55

ramana wrote:
Supratik wrote:Deepika Padukone may have made a stupid move and this may not be her personal opinion as she has appeared in films like BajiRao and Padmavaat. I don't know the antecedents of the film Chhapaak's producer but the director is Meghna Gulzar, daughter of Gulzar who is known for being a leftist. May be this was the daughter and the producer's idea and not Deepika's. She foolishly thought it is good PR for her film.
Some reports also say she invested in the movie production.
Lets see.

DP herself has mentioned that she has invested in Chapak as well 1983-World cup biopic. Anyways movie was presumably made on 16 Cr and the production house has recovered the money. It is the profits that are hit.
The bigger concern Bhai-wood has that it may impact 1983 world cup biopic too which has another 'scared' malasi directing it.

and No, if she is smart enough to make millions and be a super successful artist, she should be smart enough to know where to stand. Sometimes not taking a stand in itself is a stand.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Jan 2020 10:58

Nadella is talking about legal immigrants and not the illegal ones.

He is right in what he says.

He talks about his own immigrant status which was entirely legal and he prospered in the US.

Nothing stops a Bangladeshi from legally migrating to India & obtaining citizenship under Citizenship Act, 1955. He/she can then also become next CEO of Infosys.

They would probably do a better job than the stream of incompetents walking the ramp at the infosys CEO's office

This law is for those minorities fleeing persecution. Similar to U.S.'s Lautenberg Amendment

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Jan 2020 11:13

twitter

"Access to Internet is a Fundamental Right" - SC

Access to Homeland for Kashmiri Pandits ?

"They waited 3 Decades. Few more decades won't matter."

Access to Justice for crimes against KPs ?

" It's been 3 Decades. You are too late."

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Jan 2020 11:45

Why do people confuse Legal immigration with Illegals. Even today any Legal Immigrant can setup a startup and be a Unicorn in India. I know of atleast 3 startups whose founders carry a Non-Indian passport but have setup shop in India.

No country allows illegals to stay illegal and undocumented.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 14 Jan 2020 12:10

https://www.news18.com/news/india/keral ... 57133.html
Hope the present CJI clubs all the petitions and hear it.
Also can this have an impact as the 'Sabarimala' thing
Hopefully two more like the 'RJB' will end the liberandu nonsense
Who is in line for next CJI: DYC??? he is out and out left/liberandu leaning
Hope the present the CJI clears all the path for UCC,etc before demitting office!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Jan 2020 12:58

Rsatchi wrote:https://www.news18.com/news/india/keral ... 57133.html
Hope the present CJI clubs all the petitions and hear it.
Also can this have an impact as the 'Sabarimala' thing
Hopefully two more like the 'RJB' will end the liberandu nonsense
Who is in line for next CJI: DYC??? he is out and out left/liberandu leaning
Hope the present the CJI clears all the path for UCC,etc before demitting office!

This is a political stunt ... The SC is going to decide on constitutionality of CAA even before this petition was filed. So what is the new question being posed here?

Now that CON has declared itself fully against CAA the left, which shares eyes the same voter base, wants to go one up on CON. What better way than go to the SC with a duplicate case! No skin off its back. No matter how the SC decided CPI(M)K would have shown its intent to its target voters. Last time it lost massively to CON precisely because minorities shifted en-mass.

https://twitter.com/WNCathedral/status/ ... 9898474502

Washington National Cathedral @WNCathedral

Today @WNCathedral blessed the official Bible for the new @SpaceForceDo, which will be used to swear in all commanders of America's newest military branch.

And some self declared India-American gyani was giving us (brf mangos) gyan that America is nation founded on secular tradition.

And that Rath yatra was religious aggression!

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 14 Jan 2020 13:10

Rsatchi wrote:Also can this have an impact as the 'Sabarimala' thing

'Sabari Mala' thing will not be impacted by this gimmick from GoKL. The Sabari Mala issue and how it gets addressed will how ever will have an impact on other religions and religious practises. Those issues are now any way being heard by a 9 member bench. I think the advocates have got time of around three weeks to agree on term of references and decide on the line of arguments.

pankajs wrote:This is a political stunt ... The SC is going to decide on constitutionality of CAA even before this petition was filed. So what is the new question being posed here?

Exactly. GoKL I guess have got the best 'dumbest' legal advisors which it can afford to have

. The first gimmick was GoKL 'unanimously passing' a resolution against CAA. This was a meaningless excercise as such resolutions have no legal validity. They tried to play another trick by saying the Kerala Guv will have to accept this resolution. That was not a requirement at all. Governors have no say or any need to approve any resolutions passed in the assembly. GoKL leveraged the biased main stream media in Kerala to show case all this as 'victories' over the 'Yeevil Naarthie Sanghi Fascist Government', but social media exposed that. So the new gimmick is this filing of petition in Supreme Court. This is when there are lots of petitions already in place demanding the scuttling of CAA. You are right; Commies and Congress folks have to work with the same minority vote banks. So each bending over backwards to please them.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Jan 2020 13:19

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/utkarsh_aanand/stat ... 3696000001
Utkarsh Anand @utkarsh_aanand

#JNU administration issues an advisory for JNU teachers on their "non-cooperation" call.

It states the non-cooperation call violates teachers' service conditions & that students, who have registered for 2020 winter semester, have a fundamental right to attend classes be guided.

AFTER the student revolution failed to stop the registration the "left" teachers have decided to throw their hat into the ring ..
https://twitter.com/news18dotcom/status ... 5840225280

News18.com @news18dotcom

"Students who left campus after violence scared to return, how can we resume teaching," JNUTA President said.

After Delhi elections GOI will have to start to restore normalcy in JNU and it means they will have to take the teachers head-on. The University cannot be held to ransom.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Jan 2020 13:48

This whole CAA thing is going to end very badly for Islamists-Commie-Urban Naxal gang. They are forcing govts hand and draconian face that they have been falsely accusing govt of may become reality. 'The boy who cried wolf'.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Jan 2020 13:51

pankajs wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:.........…
And some self declared India-American gyani was giving us (brf mangos) gyan that America is nation founded on secular tradition. And that Rath yatra was religious aggression!

We have some posters whose benchmark for anything and everything is JuYesAye

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Jan 2020 13:57

chetak wrote:twitter

"Access to Internet is a Fundamental Right" - SC

Access to Homeland for Kashmiri Pandits ?

"They waited 3 Decades. Few more decades won't matter."

Access to Justice for crimes against KPs ?

" It's been 3 Decades. You are too late."

Did honorable SC explain why access to Internet is a fundamental right ?
Does that also mean that corporate offices that deny access to Internet for over 9.5 hours everyday are liable for contempt of court ?

If internet is fundamental right, Then can I demand internet in every nook and corner of India at all times.
Next Bandwidth, speed and data pack will become fundamental right.
Uff so many questions..

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Jan 2020 14:41

Embedded Bengali link ..

https://twitter.com/sarkar_swati/status ... 5443693568

Saswati Sarkar @sarkar_swati

Underprivileged Hindus are not taking part in anti-CAA protest, feels CPM. Participation limited to Muslims and only a section of the upper middle class Hindus. Hindus as a whole not participating. This is reported by anti Hindu ABP:

He he he he .... only peacefools and "upper class Hindu" sickulars protesting CAA. AND this from the CPM. There cannot be a more secular and reliable source on this issue especially when it admits a faliure. Does that answer the question posed by one member on the salience of the protests? or is he still shivering in his dhoti?

Does that clarify why there is no opposition unity on CAA except between CON and Left?

Someone a while back was asking why light a fire when only "about" 35k people will benefit from CAA?
1. Even if it saves 1 life, fight for Dharma is Dharma.
2. Getting the persecution of Hindus and other minorities in our Muslim majority neighbors on the record and in a law is important by itself.
3. Busting the one-sided manufactured victim-hood narrative.
4. This is from just UP ...
https://twitter.com/DivyaSoti/status/12 ... 4133572609

Divya Kumar Soti @DivyaSoti

40,000 non-muslim refugees have been detected by Uttar Pradesh government in just 19 districts. Pilibhit alone has more than 35000 non-muslim refugees from Bangladesh. CAA is all set to expose one of world's biggest continuing human rights violation which went on for 70 years.

Imagine the final figures when the illegals get counted in Assam and WB!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Jan 2020 15:29

https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1216629162204512256

NDTV @ndtv

"There should be a debate on #CitizenshipAct, can be discussed in assembly if everyone wants. No point of #NRC, there's no need for it": Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar.

#CAA #CitizenshipLaw

Nitishwa doing what he does best .. Lets debate CAA

AND "No point of NRC". He does not reject NRC and keep quite on NPR which is due along with the census.

How do these folks make such surgical statements off the cuff! No wonder they are leaders while the rest keep shooting off their mouth.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Jan 2020 16:18

twitter

THIS IS Jayati ghosh Professor #JNU what do they teach students

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Jan 2020 16:28

twitter

Here is the chronological sequence of #JNUViolence

Throw it on leftist student’s faces and all the woke Bollywood idiots.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 14 Jan 2020 17:29

Sir would you post rest of the timeline? Not to disrupt the flow, but waited long-
Here is a piece from Atlantic on how the 'intellectual' live in twitter bubble. It applies strongly to India's MSM, they live in their own bubble, when 99% of the country do not agree with them. The minority that would eventually vote on their line of thinking is not voting because they agree with these woke none-intellectuals (many of them are of below average intelligence), but because it fits their fundamentalist view point.
It would be good for the forum to not assume that this is the beginning and end of all news and opinion - It is not

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... ry/604690/

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 14 Jan 2020 18:31

chetak wrote:Nadella is talking about legal immigrants and not the illegal ones.

He is right in what he says.

He talks about his own immigrant status which was entirely legal and he prospered in the US.

Nothing stops a Bangladeshi from legally migrating to India & obtaining citizenship under Citizenship Act, 1955. He/she can then also become next CEO of Infosys.

They would probably do a better job than the stream of incompetents walking the ramp at the infosys CEO's office

This law is for those minorities fleeing persecution. Similar to U.S.'s Lautenberg Amendment

Exactly! And unfortunately none of the worthies have realized this! I have mentioned this multiple times on social media but no one seems to take note.

Sanju · Post by **Sanju** » 14 Jan 2020 20:02

Iskarn Singh Bhandari's Social Media interaction on

Ishkaran Singh Bhandari
@ishkarnBHANDARI
Twitter live on #LeftBehindJNUViolence
1)JNU violence
2) bus burning,
3)Jinnah Wali Aazadi
4)Hindoyon se Aazadi
5) Jihadi slogans

I speak on the motives on those who want to break India & how to stop it !

Question welcome—-Retweet it.

It is 22 mins long and worth a listen. Tackles the issue of "renaming" Muslim perps with Hindu names. He refers to the first time that he had heard it, when the then 17 year-old brutal rapist of Nirbhaya was named as Raju by the media to obfuscate and suppress his Muslim religious background.

He works as an assistant to Dr. S Swamy and is probably his successor on the Legal front.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Jan 2020 20:50

fanne wrote:Sir would you post rest of the timeline? Not to disrupt the flow, but waited long-
Here is a piece from Atlantic on how the 'intellectual' live in twitter bubble. It applies strongly to India's MSM, they live in their own bubble, when 99% of the country do not agree with them. The minority that would eventually vote on their line of thinking is not voting because they agree with these woke none-intellectuals (many of them are of below average intelligence), but because it fits their fundamentalist view point.
It would be good for the forum to not assume that this is the beginning and end of all news and opinion - It is not

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... ry/604690/

Fanne ji,

Sorry, I couldn't find the rest of the statement.

been looking for it. Will post if I find it.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 14 Jan 2020 21:12

Vikas wrote:Why do people confuse Legal immigration with Illegals. Even today any Legal Immigrant can setup a startup and be a Unicorn in India. I know of atleast 3 startups whose founders carry a Non-Indian passport but have setup shop in India.

No country allows illegals to stay illegal and undocumented.

Microsoft like other Silicon Valley employers has some illegal immigrants on the payroll. They are representing their employees before the US Supreme Court. Advocating for illegal immigrants is consistent with company policy in most places.

Microsoft to represent DACA recipients in Supreme Court trial

khatvaanga · Post by **khatvaanga** » 14 Jan 2020 21:27

jaisa baap waisa beta i guess. This is regarding Rahul Kanwal and his dad.

https://twitter.com/Agent0fChaos_/statu ... 2080865281

Dear
@rahulkanwal
, is it true that your father Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal wrote a paper from US military academy co-authored by a Pakistani Brigadier on why Siachen should be given to Pakistan or a Fake news? Kindly fact check!
If true? Then is it Anti-national or not?

the link to the said article - https://thediplomat.com/2016/02/does-in ... n-glacier/

from the article -

However, not everyone is convinced of the strategic and tactical value of the Siachen. Brigadier (retired) Gurmeet Kanwal has argued that in the event of Pakistan and China launching a joint offensive to occupy the Ladakh region of Kashmir, they are unlikely to approach it via Siachen’s “treacherous mountain terrain” as “better options are available” for them to access Ladakh. India’s control of Siachen then does not deny Pakistan and China approaches to Ladakh.

apologies if this was already posted and discussed here.

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 14 Jan 2020 21:44

vera_k wrote:
Microsoft like other Silicon Valley employers has some illegal immigrants on the payroll. They are representing their employees before the US Supreme Court. Advocating for illegal immigrants is consistent with company policy in most places.

Microsoft to represent DACA recipients in Supreme Court trial

Yes. Just drive down the Pacific Coast Highway (CA-1) in either direction from SFO. Every little coastal town and hamlet is full of Mexicans. I don't know how many are illegals but probably a very large fraction. On the roadside you will often see signs like "No human is illegal".

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 14 Jan 2020 21:50

Love the way Meenakshi Lekhi hit back at MS chief

How literate need to be educated ! Perfect example. Precise reason for CAA is to grant opportunities to persecuted minorities from Bangladesh, Pakistan & Afghanistan.
How about granting these opportunities to Syrian Muslims instead of Yezidis in USA ?

https://twitter.com/M_Lekhi/status/1216927399259983874

I don't know about this Nedella dude a whole lot, but form what little I have seen, he seems a hard core techie (nothing wrong with that) with possibly white honchos like Gates pulling the the strings from behind. Nadella has to say all this BS to sound cool. It only shows the direction of the wind from the halls of power. I mean as LekhiJi pointed out, why not Syrian Muslims. Or what about Lautenberg amendment. I challenged Kugelboy also along the same lines and he ran.

I would challenge on Indian American Hindu honcho in positions of power like this Nadella dude to come out and say the truth: What ModiJi is doing to help Hindus/Sikhs/Jains etc butchered by TSP & Co, is as statesmanlike if not more than what Oskar Schindler did to hep persecuted Jews in Nazi Germany.

khatvaanga · Post by **khatvaanga** » 14 Jan 2020 22:00

sir he has already issued a retraction / clarification.

https://twitter.com/MicrosoftIndia/stat ... 4639589376

he mentioned that every country has a right to define its immigration policies. Looks like buzzfeed tried to spin it as something else.

EswarPrakash · Post by **EswarPrakash** » 14 Jan 2020 22:18

khatvaanga wrote:sir he has already issued a retraction / clarification.

https://twitter.com/MicrosoftIndia/stat ... 4639589376

he mentioned that every country has a right to define its immigration policies. Looks like buzzfeed tried to spin it as something else.

Half hearted, assinine and heavily retracted. He is / was a Marxist and left liberal as they come. Don't be fooled. They know a backlash is coming from the India Government and thus a hard try to salvage the situation