IMHO don't insult the person, show the wrongness of his statement.Vikas wrote:Now when someone insults him back on SM which many would have done by now, hue and cry will go up that we don't respect soldiers. Respect is a 2-way street.chetak wrote:once an aapi, always a paapi
Calculated bid to exhaust 1984 riot victims’ hopes for justice: SC-appointed panel
Krishnadas Rajagopal
JANUARY 15, 2020
Justice Dhingra makes shocking conclusions about how the Delhi Police and the then administration, along with certain judges and magistrates, sabotaged the cases over the years.
A Supreme Court-constituted committee has said a government that used its clout to "hush up" crimes committed by mobs during the anti-Sikh riots of 1984 and a Delhi Police which "miserably failed" even to help loved ones identify their dead are squarely responsible for the lack of closure and justice felt by victims even after 36 years.
"The whole effort of the police and the administration seemed to have been to hush up the criminal cases concerning the riots," the report filed by the committee chaired by former Delhi High Court judge, Justice S.N. Dhingra has said.
On Wednesday, appearing before a Bench led by Chief Justice of India Sharad A. Bobde, Solicitor General Tushar Mehta said the Centre would comply with the committee's recommendations.
The committee had submitted the report in the apex court several months ago, it however came into the public domain on Wednesday.
The 1984 riots occurred in the aftermath of the assassination of then prime minister Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards.
Solicitor General Tushar Mehta informed a Bench led by Chief Justice Sharad A. Bobde that the government accepts the conclusions of the report and would take further legal action.
The Justice Dhingra Committee was entrusted by the apex court in January 2018 to sift through the case records of 186 anti-Sikh riot cases of murder, bodily injuries, arson, rioting, destruction of property, outraging religious feelings, etc. The court’s order was in response to a plea made by a Special Investigation Team, which was probing a total of 199 cases, for their closure due to lack of evidence. The court had decided that the case deserved a second look before any decision to close them was taken.
In his detailed report, Justice Dhingra makes shocking conclusions about how the Delhi Police and the then administration, along with certain judges and magistrates, sabotaged the cases over the years in a calculated bid to exhaust the victims’ hopes for justice.
Justice Dhingra said the police employed several tactics to dilute the cases. Criminal cases were registered in such a way to specifically give clean chit to certain accused persons. Hundreds of cases of murders, which had no connection to each other and had occurred in different times and locations, were clubbed together.
In one case, an “omnibus FIR” was filed on 337 separate complaints about incidents which had no connection to each other. Justice Dhingra said the police deliberately made it “humanly impossible” for themselves to investigate complaints. “How can one investigating officer probe 500 cases, trace witnesses, prepare challans and proceed in court against accused persons,” the panel report pointed out.
“The accused persons of these clubbed cases were sent to trial together. Judges and Magistrates before whom these cases came up would not bother to separate the cases or even question the police. The law requires each case has to be tried separately,” Justice Dhingra said in the report.
“If one FIR was registered in respect of one murder cum riot cum arson cum looting in an area, all other incidents of murder, arson, riot and looting of that area were clubbed in the same FIR. In the name of investigation, nothing was done,” the report said.
In most cases, the rioters were outsiders or the victims would have fled to save their lives. Thus, many accused remain unidentified. However, the Committee referred to hundreds of affidavits filed by victims, which are part of the Justice Ranganath Misra Commission, identifying the accused persons.
“Instead of registering FIRs, committee after committee were formed to delay registration of FIRs,” the report said.
Hundreds of bodies were recovered, the report said, but remain unidentified. Police did not preserve forensic evidence, which would have helped bring a sense of closure to families who still do not know what happened to their loved ones three decades ago.
In one such instance, mobs dragged out Sikh passengers out of trains at Nangloi, Kishanganj, Dayabasti, Shahdara and Tuglakabad railway stations and lynched them. Seventy-one bodies were recovered and 29 remain unidentified, the report said.
Had the administration and police been serious in punishing the culprits, Special Task Force teams for investigating the crimes would have been formed in each police station and forensic laboratories, said the report.
The incidents addressed in the 186 cases took place between November 1 and November 3 of 1984. They involved the murder of 426 people, of which 84 bodies still remain unidentified. The cases also cover the destruction of 700 properties.
one should always be circumspect in public utterances because one never knows what demons from the past will come back to bite one in one's assManish_P wrote:IMHO don't insult the person, show the wrongness of his statement.Vikas wrote: Now when someone insults him back on SM which many would have done by now, hue and cry will go up that we don't respect soldiers. Respect is a 2-way street.
For e.g You can point out to him yesterdays news about an actress caught doing prostitution and ask if by extension all actresses are prostitutes...
Matoshree to Matashree ...ANI @ANI
Delhi: Maharashtra Minister Aaditya Thackeray met Congress leader Rahul Gandhi today. (File pics)
iMac_too @iMac_too
They were adamant country's PM & HM should come to their home to visit. No qualms in coming to Delhi & take appointment of a jobless Prince
Fadnavis did comment after elections that UT wasn't picking up his call. UT wanted PM and/or HM to make a personal vizit to Matoshree and now CON is making them vizit Matashree regularly. Theek hai.Since they snapped ties with BJP & started talking to NCP & Con, not even a gully level leader of the two parties has visited Matoshree. Very clear orders from Queen & Pawar
Why does CON want the to "take away the spotlight from the emotive narrative"? Because it works to BJP's advantage and its disadvantage! Did they not know this when the infact re-ignited passions after UP was calmed down by Yogi?Facing attack from the BJP as CAA, nationalism, Pakistan and terror dominate the political discourse, Congress is attempting hard to bring back the focus on faltering economy and dwindling job scenario in the country, the issues it believes can take away the spotlight from the emotive narrative.
A day after a meeting of 20 Opposition parties to chalk out a common strategy to take on the central government on issues like CAA, students protests, Congress on Tuesday revived the attack on the government on issues like flagging economy and falling job ratio.
The Monday all-party meeting was skipped by over half a dozen Opposition parties sending a signal that a common Opposition theme of protest on the earlier two issues may not happen.
The masks are off? JNUSU President Aishe Ghosh rakes up Kashmir during the Jamia protests against CAA
JANUARY 15, 2020
Several anti-CAA demonstrators today carried out a protest rally in the National Capital to commemorate one month of the protest against the enactment of the Citizenship Amendment Act. The protest was also attended by JNUSU President Aishe Ghosh, against whom two FIRs have been lodged for her alleged involvement in the vandalism of server rooms in Jawaharlal Nehru University on January 4, 2020.
However, referring to the abrogation of Article 370, Ghosh added a new dimension to the protest against the CAA by dredging up the Kashmir issue and linking it with the demonstrations against the citizenship act.
JNUSU president Aishe Ghosh outside Jamia Millia Islamia: Hum is ladai mein Kashmir ka pichha aur unki baat nahi bhul sakte. Unke sath jo ho raha hai, kahin na kahin wahin se is sarkar ne shuru kiya tha ki hamare samvidhan ko hamse chheena jaye. pic.twitter.com/nnfnUQGjWx
— ANI (@ANI) January 15, 2020
“While we are in this fight, we cannot forget Kashmir and the people over there. Whatever is happening with the people in Kashmir, the process of depriving us of our constitution by the central government started from there,” Aishe claimed.
The JNUSU president’s remarks were in reference to the Central Government’s decision taken on August 4, 2019, to strip Jammu and Kashmir of its separate status by abrogating Article 370 and subsequently bifurcate the state into two union territories-Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh. The central government had claimed that the invalidation of Article 370 will enable the real integration of the state with the Indian Union while opening up a host of new economic opportunities for the residents.
However, JNUSU president Aishe Ghosh’s mention of Kashmir during the anti-CAA protests have unmasked the real intentions behind the demonstrations. It vindicates Union Home Minister Amit Shah’s stand who had earlier claimed that the anti-CAA protests are politically motivated and orchestrated by those having ulterior motives.
It is noteworthy to mention that Aishe Ghosh belongs to the hotbed of seditious elements, Jawaharlal Nehru University, where anti-India slogans of “Bharat tere tukde honge inshallah inshallah” and others were raised in 2016. Besides, JNU students also routinely indulge in chanting “Azaadi” slogans.
The Citizenship Amendment Act passed in December 2019 in both the houses of the Indian Parliament seeks to provide fast-track citizenship to the persecuted minorities from the neighbouring countries of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh.
However, the passage of the act sparked off sporadic protests in some parts of the country, especially at the leftist bastions, where the protestors have put forth perverse reasons claiming that the Act aims to disenfranchise Indian Muslims and is a step towards the transformation of India into a Hindu Rashtra.
I mean Subhashya SheeghramSupratik wrote:The next trouble for Congress is going to come from MP and it may come from Jyotiraditya Scindia.
Moi is banned from teetar like Chanakya was from Magadh borders. I can only gently guide nanha Chandraguptas to call out any fake and corrupt narrative but with respect.Manish_P wrote:IMHO don't insult the person, show the wrongness of his statement.Vikas wrote: Now when someone insults him back on SM which many would have done by now, hue and cry will go up that we don't respect soldiers. Respect is a 2-way street.
For e.g You can point out to him yesterdays news about an actress caught doing prostitution and ask if by extension all actresses are prostitutes...
And they are fighting to stop NRC and rollback CAA?Nistula Hebbar @nistula
All but 3 states/UTs have notified NPR process. Dates for doing NPR have been notified or communicated to Registrar General of India. West Bengal and Kerala have informed RGI that they have put NPR on hold
Bhere are the sickulars and peacefools! You all have been taken for a ride by CON and gang.Bharti Jain @bhartijainTOI
Correction all states and UTs have notified NPR process
Dogvijay jee doing his bit for Modi/BJP.ANI @ANI
Digivijaya Singh: Zakir Naik in a statement has said that in Sept 2019, Modi ji and Shah ji sent a messenger to him that if he supports abrogation of article 370 then Govt will withdraw all cases&he will be allowed to come back.Why haven't Modi ji and Shah ji condemned this yet?
This poster says it all.Ranojay @Ranojay4
Don't know if it's real or fake, but given that the trains are burnt, it makes total sense.
The 'competAnt authority' can't even spell. And these are students.chetak wrote:Have we reached this stage in student politics that the unwashed commies/naxals will be now allowed to dictate terms to the university administration.
chetak wrote:Even now the congi/commie/naxal and the lootyens cabal are all hell bent on hushing this as the needle of suspicion points to the very top
As contrasted with 2002 godra, where the very same guys carried out a calumnious campaign, ably assisted by the BIF gora media and the paki ISI.
apparently, the congi/commie/naxal and the lootyens cabal have not heard of geese, ganders and communal sauces
Calculated bid to exhaust 1984 riot victims’ hopes for justice: SC-appointed panel
Calculated bid to exhaust 1984 riot victims’ hopes for justice: SC-appointed panel
Krishnadas Rajagopal
JANUARY 15, 2020
Justice Dhingra makes shocking conclusions about how the Delhi Police and the then administration, along with certain judges and magistrates, sabotaged the cases over the years.
A Supreme Court-constituted committee has said a government that used its clout to "hush up" crimes committed by mobs during the anti-Sikh riots of 1984 and a Delhi Police which "miserably failed" even to help loved ones identify their dead are squarely responsible for the lack of closure and justice felt by victims even after 36 years.
"The whole effort of the police and the administration seemed to have been to hush up the criminal cases concerning the riots," the report filed by the committee chaired by former Delhi High Court judge, Justice S.N. Dhingra has said.
On Wednesday, appearing before a Bench led by Chief Justice of India Sharad A. Bobde, Solicitor General Tushar Mehta said the Centre would comply with the committee's recommendations.
The committee had submitted the report in the apex court several months ago, it however came into the public domain on Wednesday.
The 1984 riots occurred in the aftermath of the assassination of then prime minister Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards.
Solicitor General Tushar Mehta informed a Bench led by Chief Justice Sharad A. Bobde that the government accepts the conclusions of the report and would take further legal action.
The Justice Dhingra Committee was entrusted by the apex court in January 2018 to sift through the case records of 186 anti-Sikh riot cases of murder, bodily injuries, arson, rioting, destruction of property, outraging religious feelings, etc. The court’s order was in response to a plea made by a Special Investigation Team, which was probing a total of 199 cases, for their closure due to lack of evidence. The court had decided that the case deserved a second look before any decision to close them was taken.
In his detailed report, Justice Dhingra makes shocking conclusions about how the Delhi Police and the then administration, along with certain judges and magistrates, sabotaged the cases over the years in a calculated bid to exhaust the victims’ hopes for justice.
Justice Dhingra said the police employed several tactics to dilute the cases. Criminal cases were registered in such a way to specifically give clean chit to certain accused persons. Hundreds of cases of murders, which had no connection to each other and had occurred in different times and locations, were clubbed together.
In one case, an “omnibus FIR” was filed on 337 separate complaints about incidents which had no connection to each other. Justice Dhingra said the police deliberately made it “humanly impossible” for themselves to investigate complaints. “How can one investigating officer probe 500 cases, trace witnesses, prepare challans and proceed in court against accused persons,” the panel report pointed out.
“The accused persons of these clubbed cases were sent to trial together. Judges and Magistrates before whom these cases came up would not bother to separate the cases or even question the police. The law requires each case has to be tried separately,” Justice Dhingra said in the report.
“If one FIR was registered in respect of one murder cum riot cum arson cum looting in an area, all other incidents of murder, arson, riot and looting of that area were clubbed in the same FIR. In the name of investigation, nothing was done,” the report said.
In most cases, the rioters were outsiders or the victims would have fled to save their lives. Thus, many accused remain unidentified. However, the Committee referred to hundreds of affidavits filed by victims, which are part of the Justice Ranganath Misra Commission, identifying the accused persons.
“Instead of registering FIRs, committee after committee were formed to delay registration of FIRs,” the report said.
Hundreds of bodies were recovered, the report said, but remain unidentified. Police did not preserve forensic evidence, which would have helped bring a sense of closure to families who still do not know what happened to their loved ones three decades ago.
In one such instance, mobs dragged out Sikh passengers out of trains at Nangloi, Kishanganj, Dayabasti, Shahdara and Tuglakabad railway stations and lynched them. Seventy-one bodies were recovered and 29 remain unidentified, the report said.
Had the administration and police been serious in punishing the culprits, Special Task Force teams for investigating the crimes would have been formed in each police station and forensic laboratories, said the report.
The incidents addressed in the 186 cases took place between November 1 and November 3 of 1984. They involved the murder of 426 people, of which 84 bodies still remain unidentified. The cases also cover the destruction of 700 properties.
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And of course to expect that they understand the distinction between a Statute and Rules &Regulations made there under is a bit too much. I mean, what are these STATUTES of the ACT?Rahul M wrote:The 'competAnt authority' can't even spell. And these are students.chetak wrote:Have we reached this stage in student politics that the unwashed commies/naxals will be now allowed to dictate terms to the university administration.
And of course to expect that they understand the distinction between a Statute and Rules &Regulations made there under is a bit too much. I mean, what are these STATUTES of the UNIVERSITY? And what is with these all-cap wording?Rahul M wrote:The 'competAnt authority' can't even spell. And these are students.chetak wrote:Have we reached this stage in student politics that the unwashed commies/naxals will be now allowed to dictate terms to the university administration.
GoKL even put out one page advertisements in news papers saying that they will NOT be conducting any NPR excercise. They had earlier issued the notifications (some where in Sept 2019) before the CAA came in. Now the petition filed in Supreme Court by GoKL is taking the issue on a different angle. Their plea is that Central Govt is forcing them to implement Acts, and its filed based on the Constituitional provisions which is to address conflicts between the central government and a state government.pankajs wrote:Kerala and West Bengal are peculiar becuase the ruling party must absolutely have the Muslim vote with them to win. Though choice for them but they will come around sooner or later.
Seems to be a cooked up 'official' letter. No university allows students to decide who the faculty can be and what they can do. 'Out of Bounds' etc. have no real meaning here. This letter seems to be a farce like other stuffs the commies do; burning effigies etc. During my college days in KL, the commie student unions used to chastise America and threaten them, through billboards and placards written in MalayalamRahul M wrote:The 'competAnt authority' can't even spell. And these are students.
.Isn't Aiyar goto man for Mafia when it comes to coordinating with Pakis. These are not innocuous visits to bad mouth Modi ji.ramana wrote:
Whats stunning/ Mani Aiyar is meeting the kabila chief to get orders for Mona Sonia.
To identify the points leading to their simmering resentment,
- computerized exam (has its own issues) instead of a narrative one which recruited foot-soldiers with matching ideology
- minimum qualifying cutoff (50%)
- removing the travesty of deprivation points (quotas already exist!)
The changes that have been brought in JNU suggests a highly competent administrator, who understood the high level of thuggery under the grab of research and effectively implemented policies to counter this. Salute to him
Doctorates are high-echelon academic degrees, not for all and sundry
"JNU could not fill its seats in 2017–18..because of the policy that sets the minimum marks in the written exam to qualify for the viva voce part .. at 50%"
"The 2017–18 admissions saw an 83% cut in seats for the research degrees of the university, and final admissions revealed that only 159 students were admitted..131 seats left vacant"
So, many PG/PhD seats vacant: fewer party-workers!
The core of the JNU quagmire has not been dissected. The VC is genuinely incompetent as an administrator, however what folk don't realize is, that their post-grad admission process was more like a foot-soldier-recruitment process. The VC disrupted that. Hence the shrieks.
1:30 AM - 12 Jan 2020
This alone should decrease the strength of SSS (School of Social Sciences) by a significant amount in the next 5-6 years. I read (in an article by M. Paranjpe, I think) that more students that capacity are admitted and existing students agree to cram the new students in their accommodation in exchange for being available for protests on call.chetak wrote:To identify the points leading to their simmering resentment,
- computerized exam (has its own issues) instead of a narrative one which recruited foot-soldiers with matching ideology
- minimum qualifying cutoff (50%)
- removing the travesty of deprivation points (quotas already exist!)
The changes that have been brought in JNU suggests a highly competent administrator, who understood the high level of thuggery under the grab of research and effectively implemented policies to counter this. Salute to him
Doctorates are high-echelon academic degrees, not for all and sundry
"JNU could not fill its seats in 2017–18..because of the policy that sets the minimum marks in the written exam to qualify for the viva voce part .. at 50%"
"The 2017–18 admissions saw an 83% cut in seats for the research degrees of the university, and final admissions revealed that only 159 students were admitted..131 seats left vacant"
So, many PG/PhD seats vacant: fewer party-workers!
https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1217450359502688257ANI @ANI
Sanjay Raut, Shiv Sena: There was a time when Dawood Ibrahim, Chhota Shakeel, Sharad Shetty used to decide who would be Police Commissioner of Mumbai & who would sit in 'Mantralaya'. Indira Gandhi used to go and meet Karim Lala. We've seen that underworld, now it's just 'chillar'
iMac_too @iMac_too
That was 80s. Who ruled Maharashtra? Congress. Who were CMs then? Antulay, Babasaheb Bhosale, Vasant dada, SB Chavan (Adarsh bhai @AshokChavanINC's Papa) & Kaka Pawar
Is संज्या भौ your ally or foe, Pappu @RahulGandhi?
And as expected, he first spat and then licked it.pankajs wrote:Why has no one picked on this bit?
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1217444148870959104https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1217450359502688257ANI @ANI
Sanjay Raut, Shiv Sena: There was a time when Dawood Ibrahim, Chhota Shakeel, Sharad Shetty used to decide who would be Police Commissioner of Mumbai & who would sit in 'Mantralaya'. Indira Gandhi used to go and meet Karim Lala. We've seen that underworld, now it's just 'chillar'iMac_too @iMac_too
That was 80s. Who ruled Maharashtra? Congress. Who were CMs then? Antulay, Babasaheb Bhosale, Vasant dada, SB Chavan (Adarsh bhai @AshokChavanINC's Papa) & Kaka Pawar
Is संज्या भौ your ally or foe, Pappu @RahulGandhi?
For some reason no one wants to speak ill about Mafia nowadays."The respect that I have always shown towards Indira Gandhi, Pandit Nehru, Rajiv Gandhi and the Gandhi family, despite being in Opposition, nobody has done it. Whenever people have targeted Indira Gandhi, I have stood up for her.”
Srikanth @srikanthbjp_
Karnatka : Rathothshava Devotees chanted Modi Modi Modi Modi when Congress ex cm Siddaramaiah was walking ...
Modiiii Modi is the new battle cry these days and I love it.pankajs wrote:Video embedded ... This was not a political rally so there is no chance this was BJP's doings.
https://twitter.com/srikanthbjp_/status ... 8285310977Srikanth @srikanthbjp_
Karnatka : Rathothshava Devotees chanted Modi Modi Modi Modi when Congress ex cm Siddaramaiah was walking ...
fail to understand why is amit shah soft on Shaheen Baagh nuisance, if he earned reputation of hard task master on 370 , it is gradually fading away.chetak wrote:#ShaheenBagh event is being funded by someone
Masterly inactivity is designed for Indian all over India to see for themselves what the protest is about. Modi/Shah are proven right as with time we are seeing more and more radical idea emerge from the protest.IndraD wrote:fail to understand why is amit shah soft on Shaheen Baagh nuisance, if he earned reputation of hard task master on 370 , it is gradually fading away.chetak wrote:#ShaheenBagh event is being funded by someone
Also masterly inactivity in hope it will galvanise people in favour of BJP in Delhi election lacks foresight .
With no CM face & chaotic campaign of BJP, AAP is likely to retain Delhi .
WATCH .. embedded video .. Sanjay Raut has set the ball rolling ...TIMES NOW @TimesNow
#Breaking | @INCIndia’s @adhirrcinc stokes a fresh controversy.
‘Yes, I am a Pakistani’, says Adhir Chowdhury.
TIMES NOW’s Sreyashi with details.
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Exclusive: #IndiraGandhi और #KarimLala के मुलाकात की तस्वीर
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They needs to keep the protests going till he source of funds is traced and drained. If the sources are not from India eg foreign ngos or press they are illegal political campaign financeIndraD wrote:fail to understand why is amit shah soft on Shaheen Baagh nuisance, if he earned reputation of hard task master on 370 , it is gradually fading away.chetak wrote:#ShaheenBagh event is being funded by someone
Also masterly inactivity in hope it will galvanise people in favour of BJP in Delhi election lacks foresight .
With no CM face & chaotic campaign of BJP, AAP is likely to retain Delhi .
Probably because the nuisance value has not yet reached a tipping point where there is massive public backlash. At the moment I would say its advantage BJP at least in India because these Islamic protests are seen as just that: Islamists masquerading as women peacefully protesting.IndraD wrote:fail to understand why is amit shah soft on Shaheen Baagh nuisance, if he earned reputation of hard task master on 370 , it is gradually fading away.chetak wrote:#ShaheenBagh event is being funded by someone
Also masterly inactivity in hope it will galvanise people in favour of BJP in Delhi election lacks foresight .
With no CM face & chaotic campaign of BJP, AAP is likely to retain Delhi .
edited to add second image#RautExposedIndiraGandhi Congress can get Pawar to force Sanjay Raut to withdraw his Indira Gandhi Karim Lala comment can Congress remove this 1973 image
