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sudeepj wrote:
Primus wrote:
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One wonders at the stupidity of these Liberal media houses, their journos and their owners. Are they truly drunk on the secular Koolaid that they cannot see the future if the Peacefools' dream comes true? Their own wives and daughters will be first in line for conversion and rape. Perhaps they are willing to pay that price too, in the slim hope that they will still be partners in the rest of the loot. Or maybe, as some have alleged, they do not mind becoming Peacefools in the true sense themselves.
Saar, these people will be the first to convert and start raping! You are looking at Wannabe Rapists who are deterred not by any internal code, rather by the 'dharma dand' or righteous violence wielded by the state. Its well known that Sanjay Jha, the Congress spokesperson is a bigamist. Abhishek Singhvi is well versed in the law, so its slam bam thank you mam for him. The only two avenues for them to release their lust is either bra burning feminism or pisslam and those movements are where they congregate.

If you begin compiling a list of their picadillos, itll be many pages long in a jiffy. Many of the vocal kids are products of rape themselves..

You are probably right, but I am talking about the rank and file guys in all these outfits, not just the media houses, but the political parties involved, surely they all couldn't be closet Jihadis themselves. More likely they are the useful idiots who are clueless about which way the wind is really blowing. Cannon fodder for the higher-ups unfortunately.
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anmol wrote:Came across this on Medianama
Looks like The Wire will primarily focus on politics, economy, science, external affairs, law and culture. A number of well-known journalists, industry veterans, and academics like former Financial Express managing editor M.K. Venu, diplomat Shivshankar Menon, former TRAI chairman Rahul Khullar (INX accused Sindhushree Khullar's husband), and Mineral Physics professor at Cambridge University Simon Redfern among many others have already contributed to The Wire.
Gandhis, Tata = TheWire.
Tata,Narayan Murthy = ThePrint.
Atlantic Media, Omidyar = Scroll.in.
Omidyar = Newslaundry .
Birla = Living Media (India Today).
Ambani = NDTV, News18 etc.
If The Wire is going to focus on, politics, economics, science, external affairs, law and culture I wonder what is actually left out? Certainly not Islam or christianity because they portray themselves as religio social movements. So that is kosher. That leaves out only stuff like Advaita, spiritual message of bhakti movement and so on. But jokes aside it is now a broad digital platform for an anti establishment focus where such establishment is represented by the present ruling dispensation with governance philosophy that it brings to the table.
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chetak wrote:the conversion vultures are gathering


Link for those wishing to read the six resolutions on India being taken up this week by the EU Parliament.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/plenary/ ... pe=motions


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How representative of the general public that these EU MPs are? The sense I got (wikipedia type sources) was that mainstream political parties don't really care for these elections. Result is that it is only the fringe parties get elected to the EU parliament. Since they have no real stake in the running their nation states they end up being vulnerable to fringe elements who can fund their campaigns in EU elections. This is my perspective. Any thoughts?
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sudeepj wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 669544.cms

The Govt. may have underestimated the kind of hold the likes of Bezos have over the Washington elite. That a garbage OpEd from a nameless foreign author is able to find front page placement in an Indian newspaper is a matter of deep concern. Just because Bezos was snubbed and his firm is being probed for anti-competitive practices - the fact of which is obvious to almost anyone with two neurons to fire - the most popular govt. in 30 years of the largest democracy in the world is being defamed like this!
This is criticism of Jeff. Ever since he wrote his book The Everything Store, the author is looked upon as someone having deep insight into Amazon.
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https://twitter.com/RajeIyer/status/122 ... 77857?s=20
https://twitter.com/RajeIyer/status/122 ... 80705?s=20


Watch the videos in these tweets. When a christian visited a temple in AP and tried to convert the devotees there, the devotees made him to the deity to forgive for coming to a temple and trying to convert and from today, he has converted and become a Hindu. And then they made him put a Tilak on his fore head.

In the second video, I think they make him read a passage from Bible where daughters sleep with their dad.

HIndus are getting bolder.

This is another lesson for those who say what is BJP doing for HIndus. They need not do anything. Just their being in the govt alone will give Hindus courage to do what ever is needed to fight chrislamo fascism.
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Primus wrote:
Sachin wrote: ToILet had a report on the financiers ‘Direct link between anti-CAA stir in UP and PFI; Rs 120 cr funds deposited to 73 bank accounts for agitation'India. Looks like GoI and states which has a pro-GoI government has been actively monitoring the protest and its ring leaders have all been identified. As you said a long rope is being given for them to hang'. The GoI seems to be allowing the Jehadis and their "secular" puppets to run bersek in a very controlled environment, at the end of it their own true colours gets exposed.
The expose` by Times Now and Sudhir Chaudhary of Zee also states all this. If you look at the website of Rehab India Foundation, all its 'partners' are Jihadi organizations like IIMAN, Empower and HEAL, pretending to be for the upliftment of the poor and the minorities - but we know which minorities they mean. The entire board and organization of Empower consists of peacefools. Most of the Rehab India folks are the same with one or two useful idiot Hindus thrown in.

Watching some of the debates and reading stuff online, it is becoming increasingly obvious that this is the 'home-stretch', the BIF have thrown down the gauntlet and the peacefools are the spearhead. Gone is any pretense that this is about the constitution or sanctity of the law or safeguard of minorities. It is out and out Jihad against the elected government of India. The Congress has thrown its lot in with the Muslims knowing full well that they no longer can hope for any sympathy or support from the Hindus and caste factions they had cultivated. Strangely, the caste-based parties and their leadership appears to be silent on this whole CAA issue and certainly seem to be watching from the sidelines. Perhaps they realize their own cadres will not support them beyond a certain point if another partition-like wave of islamic violence sweeps through UP and Bihar. This may well happen.

In this context, I am increasingly worried about the safety of our leadership, especially Yogi, AS and the Big Man himself.
I read the information such as was available from the ED dossier. It talks about payments to the lawyers which they can laugh it off, "PFI? My foot! It was just fees received from Advocate on Record (AoR) who may have filed the original petition before the Supreme Court. So even the AoR can claim another layer of lawyers before they took up the case. So focusing on the legal side isn't going to take them anywhere. Then the donations to the affiliated trusts will again fetch them nothing. But the answer to the question that ED leak doesn't reveal is this. What happened to the remaining 117 odd crore that the Syndicate Bank account is supposed to have received? They surely spent it on something. What was it spent on? Unless there is some information on this, the ED has no case.
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madhu wrote:Even in shaheen bagh, they tried to call some Kashmiri pandits( though they were still left still they tried a narrative) they have taged along chandrashaker azad to woo SC/ST.. So i feel they are doing all to state/fool hindus. I am sure many hindus will fall for such crap.
The bolded part is the only the aspect which GoI and pro-Hindu organisations needs to be wary off. The common man out there have clearly identified gimmicks like hoisting national flag in mosques or saying the pledge in church etc are just acts to "prove secularism". And when they did these things, it actually proved that till CAA these folks were NOT interested in doing the same. But yes, there is a game plan to come up with a Muslims & Dalits narrative, and this needs to be countered. From what I see, there is a visible panic among the Muslim community leadership (!?) that their clout in "secular" governments is now becoming history. Rather than feeling marginalised, it is their worry that their old Mughal-E-Azam days are now going away.
Rsatchi wrote:ust wondering if all this protest/funding the protest is to prevent the Lok Sabha passing UCC or BJP dare not list the UCC
Looks like on CAA they have given up, and just hoping that the Supreme Court may ask for changes in the Act. But the main cause of worry is NPR & NRC which would actually bring out the head count, religion & caste wise. So when minority communities turn out to be 20% or 30% of the population the next question would be are they really the minorities. This organised rioting and protest is basically to stop GoI from taking any further steps to get the head count of the population. UCC is also a worry for the "seculars" but looks like the head counting is the immediate danger :D.
chetak wrote:Link for those wishing to read the six resolutions on India being taken up this week by the EU Parliament.
EU executive wing distances itself from draft resolutions moved against India's CAA in European Parliament. This report is from Deccan Herald a very "secular" news paper in KA. So even they have doubts on how much effect these silly moves at EU will have. The EU 'threat' is just a gimmick from Indian media to try convince people that every 'democratic modern' (!?) nation is against India on CAA. Only gullible English speaking middle class would fall in this trap.


Mean while....
Why women outnumber men in anti-CAA protests. Deccan Herald continues to beat a dead horse. Most likely men folks from the protestors have decided to carry on with their business, and asked the women folk to join the protests. At least in Bengaluru city, there is not even an iota of difference these protests make. People have other things to do.

Applicants may have to show proof for citizenship under Citizenship Amendment Act. The tone of the title kind of says that even with CAA it would be tough to claim citizenship. This is when GoI has still not finalised the CAA related Rules.
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Sachin wrote: But the main cause of worry is NPR & NRC which would actually bring out the head count, religion & caste wise. So when minority communities turn out to be 20% or 30% of the population the next question would be are they really the minorities.
Even if minority is about 30%, still i think they are still considered minority till they cross the threshold of 50% as per Indian law. Read somewhere.
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x posted from the EU thread

EU distances itself from its lawmakers’ anti-CAA move: Not our official position


EU distances itself from its lawmakers’ anti-CAA move: Not our official position

This distancing of the EU and France from the European Parliament, sources said, comes at a time when New Delhi has diplomatically “engaged” Brussels and European parliamentarians.



Shubhajit Roy
New Delhi
January 28, 2020


With five key political groupings in the European Parliament — these range from centre-right to far-left — moving resolutions slamming India’s Citizenship (Amendment) Act, the European Union Monday said the opinions expressed by the European Parliament and its members “do not represent the official position of the European Union”.

French diplomatic sources underlined that France, a founding member of the European Union, considers the new citizenship law an “internal political matter of India” and that European Parliament is an institution “independent of member states” and the European Commission.

This distancing of the EU and France from the European Parliament, sources said, comes at a time when New Delhi has diplomatically “engaged” Brussels and European parliamentarians.



Sources said Lok Sabha Speaker Om Birla has shot off a “strong protest letter” to the chairperson of the European Parliament, objecting to a potential situation of European Parliament taking up resolutions against the CAA approved by the Indian Parliament.

In an email response to The Indian Express Monday, EU Spokesperson for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Virginie Battu-Henriksson said: “The European Parliament is currently planning to hold a debate on legislation adopted by the Government of India last December establishing a fast track procedure for irregular migrants belonging to certain religious groups originating from neighbouring countries. The Supreme Court of India is currently assessing the constitutionality of this law. As per its regular procedures, the European Parliament published the draft Resolutions. It is important to recall that these texts are only drafts tabled by various political groups in the European Parliament.”

“Let me also remind you that the opinions expressed by the European Parliament and its Members do not represent the official position of the European Union. The EU will host its 15th Summit with India on the 13th March 2020 in Brussels, with a view to strengthen its Strategic Partnership with India. India is a key partner for the EU to address global challenges and to jointly promote the rules based multilateral order,” she said.

The Indian Express has learnt that Indian Ambassador to Belgium, Gaitri Issar Kumar, who liaises with the EU and the European Parliament, and her team have reached out to European lawmakers.

Sources said Speaker Om Birla’s protest letter to the chairperson of European Parliament has cited the mutual understanding among member states of the Inter-Parliamentary Union that considers the legislatures of respective nation states as sovereign, and does not interfere in their business and processes.

In this context, Birla is said to have stressed that it will be inappropriate for the European Parliament to pass a judgment on a legislation approved by both Houses of Parliament after due deliberations. In fact, the Speaker has cautioned against the precedent that European Parliament may set by allowing resolutions moved against the CAA.

Sources said the Speaker has used his communication to underline the CAA provisions, and that the law does not seek to revoke the citizenship of any citizen to make them stateless. He is learnt to have said that it offers citizenship to persecuted religious minorities from certain neighbouring countries.

Reacting to the resolutions, official sources in Delhi said that the CAA is a matter “entirely internal” to India. “We hope the sponsors and supporters of the draft will engage with us to get a full and accurate assessment of the facts before they proceed further. As fellow democracies, the EU Parliament should not take actions that call into question the rights and authority of democratically elected legislatures in other regions of the world,” the sources said, maintaining that the CAA is an entirely internal matter of India.
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https://twitter.com/ManjeetKrip/status/ ... 8071699456
Manjeet Kripalani @ManjeetKrip

Steve Cook @CFR_org on "outrage culture -and its cousin- virtue signalling" which has created a "near-constant state of indignation that has gripped society, fueling polarization & even fear in recent years" Its ruining everything, globally, not just the US.
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look at the glee with which this presstitute creep is reporting her fervent hopes for the fall of the BJP govt.

“largest stateless was crisis in the world” Indeed. :mrgreen:


aunty: There is no bracing anywhere except in your evil mind. The Indian parliament under a constitutional framework has enacted laws. EU has NO locus standi. No matter how much the opposition by foreign parties is welcomed by @NDTV and it's sold out propagandists, the people of India don't care.


Nidhi Razdan Verified account @Nidhi

India bracing itself for massive pushback against the CAA and J&K in EU Parliament this week. As many as 6 resolutions critical of India have been tabled by 625 out of 751 MEPs. The resolutions say the CAA and NRC could cause the “largest stateless was crisis in the world” 1/n
Nidhi Razdan Verified account @Nidhi Jan 26

One resolution is also strongly critical of the private visit to J&K by a group of MEPs last October, says “they failed to denounce human rights violations in the area; and denounces the use of this trip to legitimise Prime Minister Modi’s nationalist agenda” 2/n
Nidhi Razdan Verified account @Nidhi Jan 26

Prime Minister Modi is expected to travel to Brussels for the India EU Summit in March. One resolution has called for a discussion on these issues when he’s there.

and the most appropriate response to her deranged tweets :mrgreen:



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Some time ago, Pakistan's Army had put out an advertisement. It was an ad for cleaning workers. It said that only non-Muslims could apply for the post. That means it was for these Dalits and other minorities: PM Narendra Modi
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How will India retaliate if they are let off the FATF ?
There is some Pashtun afghan Baloch solidarity with the arrest of manor Pashteen.
American personnel died in afgnaistan after their aircraft was brought down.

Things are moving It may be time for the govt to pay attention to the neighborhood
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https://twitter.com/Ethirajans/status/1 ... 0343995392
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SC refuses #NEET exemption for Vellore CMC and rules out staying the exam, in a plea challenging the exam and seeking exemption.
Will stop a lot of under the table. The candidate has to be selected off the NEET ranking.
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It stops person from only one faith getting admitted, now it is based on merit
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fanne wrote:It stops person from only one faith getting admitted, now it is based on merit
they will find a way around this too. :mrgreen:
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vera_k wrote:
sudeepj wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 669544.cms

The Govt. may have underestimated the kind of hold the likes of Bezos have over the Washington elite. That a garbage OpEd from a nameless foreign author is able to find front page placement in an Indian newspaper is a matter of deep concern. Just because Bezos was snubbed and his firm is being probed for anti-competitive practices - the fact of which is obvious to almost anyone with two neurons to fire - the most popular govt. in 30 years of the largest democracy in the world is being defamed like this!
This is criticism of Jeff. Ever since he wrote his book The Everything Store, the author is looked upon as someone having deep insight into Amazon.
More than a criticism of Jeff, its a criticism of Modi in how it places Modi next to MBS, something that I find deeply disturbing. The exaltation of the global capitalist - the Bezos, the Soros - even above sovereign power is something thats an anachronism. Eventually, some hothead leader is going to have one or more of these people assassinated. You can only harm sovereign interests so far before a power retaliates.. Interesting times.

My vote is for the Indian parliamentary committees to hold hearings like the US Congress does, and sanction individual tycoons. Hungary has shown the way regarding this.

The money sloshing around in the world system will still come but without the baggage.
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sudeepj wrote:
vera_k wrote:
This is criticism of Jeff. Ever since he wrote his book The Everything Store, the author is looked upon as someone having deep insight into Amazon.
More than a criticism of Jeff, its a criticism of Modi in how it places Modi next to MBS, something that I find deeply disturbing. The exaltation of the global capitalist - the Bezos, the Soros - even above sovereign power is something thats an anachronism. Eventually, some hothead leader is going to have one or more of these people assassinated. You can only harm sovereign interests so far before a power retaliates.. Interesting times.

My vote is for the Indian parliamentary committees to hold hearings like the US Congress does, and sanction individual tycoons. Hungary has shown the way regarding this.

The money sloshing around in the world system will still come but without the baggage.
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Comedian Kunal Kamra heckling Arnab Goswami in an indigo airlines flight

kamra has been suspended for six months from flying indigo

Hardeep Singh Puri, the Aviation minister is telling other airlines to suspend kamra for six months as well

Good show





Hardeep Singh Puri Verified account @HardeepSPuri

MoreHardeep Singh Puri Retweeted IndiGo
Offensive behaviour designed to provoke & create disturbance inside an aircraft is absolutely unacceptable & endangers safety of air travellers.

We are left with no option but to advise other airlines to impose similar restrictions on the person concerned.
IndiGo Verified account @IndiGo6E

@MoCA_GoI @HardeepSPuri In light of the recent incident on board 6E 5317 from Mumbai to Lucknow, we wish to inform that we are suspending Mr. Kunal Kamra from flying with IndiGo for a period of six months, as his conduct onboard was unacceptable behaviour. 1/2

7:19 am - 28 Jan 2020



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JesYAfYUGsA




Comedian Kunal Kamra heckling Arnab Goswami in aeroplane



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SudeepJ, How to handle transnational corporation is a cause for concern in the Future of World order.
There is a Harvard big summit topic.
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One of the bhima koregoan accused ...
I think these guys are openly colloborating
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kamra has been suspended for six months from flying indigo
Hardeep Singh Puri, the Aviation minister is telling other airlines to suspend kamra for six months as well
Excellent public jhapad. That idiot is no "comedian". He is totally out of control. I have to hand it to Goswami: TOTALLY ignoring him, which of course sent him ballistic and got the foul-mouthed jerk banned. :rotfl: There's the comedy.

The way these oiseules say the word "Nationalist"... the pilot should have dropped him over Raoul Gandy's pakistan. Now he will have more time on trains/buses to rant.
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Air India has banned him too. Other airlines may follow suite.
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Some of my "liberal" friends on FB are going ballistic on this and saying how this shows we are now ruled by a Fuhrer etc.

As per them, Arnab ignoring the guy was running with his tail tucked instead of replying back and the "comedian" was right to question and heckle him.

Truly parallel universe some of the folks live in ( wonder what their reactions would have been if roles were reversed)
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Surely, thats the worry and issue. Many people dont care about facts or logical reasoning. With this Arnab incident and the overall shaheen bagh protest, it should have brought clarity and united the country against extremists. Yet, it has divided and many are at point of no return.

In this battle between being scared and being hostile, many foolishly conclude, with former being the cause and latter being the effect, and thus extremists actions are getting justified...
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greatde wrote:Many people dont care about facts or logical reasoning.
This cuts both ways; there could be people who are very pro-CAA and pro-NRC who don't care about facts and only care about the safety & welfare of the country.
With this Arnab incident and the overall shaheen bagh protest, it should have brought clarity and united the country against extremists. Yet, it has divided and many are at point of no return.
We are also ignorning a very huge %-age of the population who are silent. These rabble rousers in TV, or people hyperactive on social media etc does not mean that every one behave the same way. There are many people who are pro-CAA and pro-NRC but either unable to communicate their points or plainly not bothered to express the same. India is a very diverse country and we were never short in supply of traitors :).
In this battle between being scared and being hostile, many foolishly conclude, with former being the cause and latter being the effect, and thus extremists actions are getting justified.
I don't think so. It is only the Dhimmis who say that GoI brought in CAA and removed Art 370 etc, which caused rioting & mayhem from the Muslim side. This thought only echoes in the main stream media. And they are just miniscule of the Indian society. Please watch how the events are unfolding. GoI was firm on Art. 370 revocation and CAA roll out. It was the Muslim organisations which resorted to mild protests which got ignored and then they tried more violent protests. These organisations and the main stream media have been trying to up the ante again and again, but GoI is just not budging. And now what is actually happening is that the protests have moved into open calls for sedition and religious riots. These are also being heard by the silent majority in India, who too would know which side they should stand to. This kind of dramas inside air planes (and its high decibel reporting) is only showing the desperations in the "secular dhimmi elite" circles.
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Sachin wrote: And now what is actually happening is that the protests have moved into open calls for sedition and religious riots. These are also being heard by the silent majority in India, who too would know which side they should stand to. This kind of dramas inside air planes (and its high decibel reporting) is only showing the desperations in the "secular dhimmi elite" circles.
What is this silent majority? Earlier, Congress and its allies talked about it during the Modi Modi wave/frenzi. And now it seems BJP and supporters turn to use it. Unless BJP wins elections, all of this is speculation...
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^^ huh one more.
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greatde wrote:What is this silent majority? Earlier, Congress and its allies talked about it during the Modi Modi wave/frenzi. And now it seems BJP and supporters turn to use it. Unless BJP wins elections, all of this is speculation...
Which elections? Lok Sabha elections happened nearly 8 months back. And when every major media house, political analysts was bleating about sure defeat of Modi & the BJP. But it was the very same silent majority who actually did not make much fanfare but gave Modi & BJP 300+ seats (higher than earlier). And it is this very same silent majority who I was talking about. There are lots of people who are already Modi & BJP sympathisers, but who may not be vocal about it :). The way CAA is polarising the society, and the way Islamists have now become more brazen on their future plans for India, the fence sitters would soon make a choice.
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Does anyone here think that non Muslim voter will be ok with Muslims doing all this Islamic sloganeering on the streets and doing riots openly in the name of Islam? Even those who may think before vote to BJP will vote to BJP without thinking. This entire episode only ended up giving more voter base to BJP.
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Yagnasri wrote:Does anyone here think that non Muslim voter will be ok with Muslims doing all this Islamic sloganeering on the streets and doing riots openly in the name of Islam? Even those who may think before vote to BJP will vote to BJP without thinking. This entire episode only ended up giving more voter base to BJP.

The strategy of current BJP from a distant observations is quite clear.

Let it's enemies exhaust themselves over trivial issues which in turn polarise it's core.

While it focuses on core issues for the future of the nation.

It's always acting and setting the agenda. It has the initiative with its enemies reacting to it.

Just watch how it has totally isolated the anti CAA agitation with no main stream political party overtly supporting CAA agitation.

Hell, even kejriwal has publically started asking why this agitation has not been cleared in Delhi.

Could anyone have imagined that?
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What is with Prashant Kishore and his childish shenanigans with Nitish ?
I fail to understand what is he angling for. With a small party like JDU and no personal base, What exactly is he going to achieve by this tweet drama unless there is a background story that we aren't aware of.
NK can kick him out tomorrow and no one will even squeak against it.
Congoons any ways has used him in UP and failed spectacularly. So why try to act bigger than your shoes.
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I happen to listen to Sh. Mohandas Pai recently. The man is a superb orator and audience was eating out of his hand. Although he was speaking about Technology and India, But he did slip in his remarks on CAA, Barkha, SS chronicles and crony capitalism of the past. Nothing flashy in his talk or dressing, wry sense of humor & solid knowledge, He got a standing ovation in the end.
I was mightily impressed.
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Pratyush wrote:
Yagnasri wrote:Does anyone here think that non Muslim voter will be ok with Muslims doing all this Islamic sloganeering on the streets and doing riots openly in the name of Islam? Even those who may think before vote to BJP will vote to BJP without thinking. This entire episode only ended up giving more voter base to BJP.

The strategy of current BJP from a distant observations is quite clear.

Let it's enemies exhaust themselves over trivial issues which in turn polarise it's core.

While it focuses on core issues for the future of the nation.

It's always acting and setting the agenda. It has the initiative with its enemies reacting to it.

Just watch how it has totally isolated the anti CAA agitation with no main stream political party overtly supporting CAA agitation.

Hell, even kejriwal has publically started asking why this agitation has not been cleared in Delhi.

Could anyone have imagined that?
khujliwal is quite peeved that his strategy of causing a public and on live tv confrontation between the shaheen bagh gaddars and the Modi -Shah govt has not fructified.

By not reacting in the way khujliwal wanted, the Modi -Shah govt has ensured that polarization in the direction not wanted by khujliwal is taking place.
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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Vikas wrote:What is with Prashant Kishore and his childish shenanigans with Nitish ?
I fail to understand what is he angling for. With a small party like JDU and no personal base, What exactly is he going to achieve by this tweet drama unless there is a background story that we aren't aware of.
NK can kick him out tomorrow and no one will even squeak against it.
Congoons any ways has used him in UP and failed spectacularly. So why try to act bigger than your shoes.
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I happen to listen to Sh. Mohandas Pai recently. The man is a superb orator and audience was eating out of his hand. Although he was speaking about Technology and India, But he did slip in his remarks on CAA, Barkha, SS chronicles and crony capitalism of the past. Nothing flashy in his talk or dressing, wry sense of humor & solid knowledge, He got a standing ovation in the end.
I was mightily impressed.
There seems to be very much more to the Prashant Kishore story than is being played out in the public domain now.

It will all come out soon as such things invariably do.

nitishwa thought that he had a "keep" in Prashant Kishore but the guy turned out to be a political whore, hiring out his services to the highest bidder while basking in the perks and privileges of a national vice president or whatever of the JDU.

Prashant Kishore has desperately been angling for a RS seat for the longest time now and has reportedly approached many political parties in his quest.

This is one sly cookie who knows how to line his own nest.

This drama is looking more like a bedroom farce now where the sugar daddy unexpectedly comes home only to find his expensive mistress bonking the neighbor's gardener.
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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Yagnasri wrote:Does anyone here think that non Muslim voter will be ok with Muslims doing all this Islamic sloganeering on the streets and doing riots openly in the name of Islam? Even those who may think before vote to BJP will vote to BJP without thinking. This entire episode only ended up giving more voter base to BJP.
Outside SM, most of the folks would not have given a $hit but this thuggery and violent threats has got everyones attention.
One can sing as many Jan-Gan-Man and unfurl Tirangaa but everyone outside commie studios understands that this is for PRship. The fault lines and lack of trust has expanded by miles.
BJP may not win Delhi but there is a consolidation against those trying to scare us into servitude.
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Sachin wrote:
greatde wrote:What is this silent majority? Earlier, Congress and its allies talked about it during the Modi Modi wave/frenzi. And now it seems BJP and supporters turn to use it. Unless BJP wins elections, all of this is speculation...
Which elections? Lok Sabha elections happened nearly 8 months back. And when every major media house, political analysts was bleating about sure defeat of Modi & the BJP. But it was the very same silent majority who actually did not make much fanfare but gave Modi & BJP 300+ seats (higher than earlier). And it is this very same silent majority who I was talking about. There are lots of people who are already Modi & BJP sympathisers, but who may not be vocal about it :). The way CAA is polarising the society, and the way Islamists have now become more brazen on their future plans for India, the fence sitters would soon make a choice.
Well 2014 voters were very fedup with the last regime and its act of omissions and commissions and it massive corruption. And Modi promised to deliver as he had in Gujarat. This was the backdrop for 2014 "wave" elections.

In 2019, there is NO wave they said and it is true there was no wave ... there should have been Anti-incumbency AND when BJP did not deliver on any of it core agenda! AND with a slowing economy! AND yet Modi/BJP increased its national vote share by 6%! and its MPs.

If this is not magic what else is magic?!!! So what happened? Well, it seems the fence-sitters have bought into BJPs civilizational message and its pro-poor policies transformed the marginal BJP voter became its core voters.

The Islamist sloganeering/rampage on the street is pushing more marginal BJP voters to become BJP core supporters. They are silent because of what they have been taught and cost associated with being vocal BJP supporters. Every single event expands the BJP base.
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Grant of LTV to male Muslim Community members from Kerala
Following class of persons have been exempted from the provisions of rule 3 of the Passport
(Entry into India) Rules, 1950 by Notification S.O. No.1115 (E) dated 15.5.2010 issued by the
Central Government:-
“Male Muslim community member being originally Indian citizen went to Pakistan after partition
leaving behind family in India and returned back to India and settled in the State of Kerala on a
valid passport issued by the Government of Pakistan which has either been expired or lost and –
(i) such person has gone to Pakistan between the period of 15th August 1947 and 31st December
1965; (ii) such person should not have married while in Pakistan; (iii) such person should not have acquired any immovable property in Pakistan; (iv) such person, while going to Pakistan,
should have left behind family members who are Indian citizens; (v) such person should have no
intention whatsoever of returning to Pakistan; (vi) such person should have any adverse report
from the police and security agencies.
State Governments / UT Administrations may consider cases for extension of the LTV of such
persons covered under the Notification S.O. no. 1115(E) dated 15.5.2010 under their delegated
powers without insisting on validity of passports.
WTF is this? just can believe
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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Unfortunately in spite of all the sloganeering by Islamists against India & Hindus, quite a few of my Delhi friends are firmly with Kejriwal (they were always against BJP anyway), this is a psec crowd, not muslim, believes in anything against BJP & Hindu extremist theory! AK might get away but not easy.
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