Fake.chetak wrote:RAHUL @brickmetal 8h
Delhi..
BJP lost by less than:
100 votes: 8 Seats
1,000 votes:19 Seats
2,000 votes: 9 Seats
Add this seat won 8
It comes to 44 seat
Think what people do when they don't vote .
or
What u get when voting percentage is low
If AAP, Congi or jDu all become soft hindutva for votes, it’s actually much better.pankajs wrote:Ekdum Latust contortion ...
https://twitter.com/chetan_bhagat/statu ... 5977047040So now "soft Hondutva" is "non-toxic Hindutva" and that "Hindutva" will be mainstreamed and no longer an object of hate and ridicule! So Hindutva will now become cool as in see.cool.lar. Wah Moti jeee wah.Chetan Bhagat @chetan_bhagat
Hindutva got split today.
There's toxic Hindutva {BJP variety}
There's non-toxic Hindutva {AAP variety}
Both have their takers.
#MudiHaiToMumkinHai
Deep Halder @deepscribble
For long, RSS has been trying to cultivate a culture where politicians, irrespective of parties, don’t feel shy wearing their Hindu identities in public and also cheer along the lines of ‘Bharat Mata ki jai’ and ‘Vande Mataram’. AAP did just that.
https://www.indiatoday.in/news-analysis ... 2020-02-12
Agree. Hindus cannot rest until muslim population stops to expand and muslims give up the idea of conquering India through birth (and christians through proselytization).Rahul M wrote:^^^
And the Shaheen Bagh folk were waving tricolour and doing Havana, was that a victory for RSS too?
Kejriwal's Hanuman Ji is just a more sophisticated version of pappu's temple run. A party with elements like Gopal Rai, atishi Marlena, amanatullah et al is no shade of hindu or hindutva.
Shouldn't fall for this eyewash.
This was a setback no doubt, we shouldn't seek empty solace where there's none. Many more battles to come yet.
I tend to agree that there is a strong upside to AK’s Hanuman bhakti display.pankajs wrote:^^
Tauheen bagh was drama and AAP's victory dedication to Hanumanji too is drama but there is a difference.
1. AAP's most prominent Hindu leaders open display of religiosity makes open display of Hindu religiosity acceptable/cool amongst the urban yuppies. Even if AAP's religiosity is fake, the followers will lap up the latest goat droppings of the great messiah and thus further the RSS project. Hindutva will reach a segment of Indian via Kujli that couldn't be reached via Modi.
2. AAP's non-Hindu & Sickular base will be aghast and will switch if a reasonable alternative comes up. That works for the BJP. See how Tharoor was treated recently.
https://theprint.in/opinion/am-i-a-clos ... or/363195/
Am I a closet Sanghi for mourning demise of an RSS man? Something’s terribly wrong: Tharoor
3. The next stage is competitive bhakti where different leaders compete for the Hindu vote and start pandering to them were it matters. That too will be RSS victory.
Some self styled heavy weights here dare not raise a little finger against you, but when I made the same observations, I was accused of 'insecurity' and spreading FUD (whatever that meansRahul M wrote:^^^
And the Shaheen Bagh folk were waving tricolour and doing Havana, was that a victory for RSS too?
Kejriwal's Hanuman Ji is just a more sophisticated version of pappu's temple run. A party with elements like Gopal Rai, atishi Marlena, amanatullah et al is no shade of hindu or hindutva.
Shouldn't fall for this eyewash.
This was a setback no doubt, we shouldn't seek empty solace where there's none. Many more battles to come yet.
)..My bad, saar.Tanaji wrote:Chetakji this is fakechetak wrote:
Is Delhi 2020 loss as "colossal" as the 2015's? Then we have nothing to worry!CRamS wrote:Some self styled heavy weights here dare not raise a little finger against you, but when I made the same observations, I was accused of 'insecurity' and spreading FUD (whatever that meansRahul M wrote:^^^
And the Shaheen Bagh folk were waving tricolour and doing Havana, was that a victory for RSS too?
Kejriwal's Hanuman Ji is just a more sophisticated version of pappu's temple run. A party with elements like Gopal Rai, atishi Marlena, amanatullah et al is no shade of hindu or hindutva.
Shouldn't fall for this eyewash.
This was a setback no doubt, we shouldn't seek empty solace where there's none. Many more battles to come yet.
But I could not agree more. Crazy's fake Hinduthva was just chameleon like. He knew BJP was gaining steam and so came up with that Hanuman Chalisa drama. But in any case, I don't know how much that actually helped him. I think Delhi populace had made their decision to go for him. And not to give him way too much credit, but I am told by some Delhi friends that he has provided some good governance, and tackled corruption. So if true, kudos to him.
BJP's late push was to warn Delhites that AAPturds are full of BIFs in Indian mufti and highlighted the Shaheen Bagh scam with Indian flags, national anthem etc.
Adding to what you said, TSP will also endorse and sing paens on Indian secularism, provided India allows Kashmir Muslims to secede and join TSP
Delhi loss was a colossal setback to BJP IMO. Amit Shah and Co need to go back to the drawing board and stem the slide. Of course an improved economy is first step.
After thanking Hanuman ji for his victory, Kujli is staying away form all opposition leaders! He want's a distance between himself and leaders like Raful, Mumtaz, Stalin and Yuchery. Good for him.News18 @CNNnews18
#JustIn -- No state leader or chief ministers of other political parties will be invited for Arvind Kejriwal’s swearing-in ceremony. Only local Delhiites and AAP would be part of the ceremony on February 16, 2020: Sources
#AAPKiDilli
AK was left to hang dry during GE in may. Not a single one of them stood by him (except maybe Mamta) and he knows that most of the above gentlemen are already burnt. Remember hue and cry over his pic with a hugging Lalu.pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/CNNnews18/status/12 ... 0472864775After thanking Hanuman ji for his victory, Kujli is staying away form all opposition leaders! He want's a distance between himself and leaders like Raful, Mumtaz, Stalin and Yuchery. Good for him.News18 @CNNnews18
#JustIn -- No state leader or chief ministers of other political parties will be invited for Arvind Kejriwal’s swearing-in ceremony. Only local Delhiites and AAP would be part of the ceremony on February 16, 2020: Sources
#AAPKiDilli
Loss in Delhi was as big a loss as losing BMC elections. It may have its MSM value but in real terms, it means almost nothing except for the RS members. There are bigger battles to be fought in Bihar, TN, WB and Punjab.pankajs wrote:Is Delhi 2020 loss as "colossal" as the 2015's? Then we have nothing to worry!CRamS wrote:…
Delhi loss was a colossal setback to BJP IMO. Amit Shah and Co need to go back to the drawing board and stem the slide. Of course an improved economy is first step.
Repeating "sky is falling" and throwing in words like "colossal", etc into the mix does not make the sky fall. It is too much to expect people spreading FUD to relent. I don't expect people who get their gyan from rNDTV to do any better. Theek hai.
jehadi begum merely is hedging against the BJP cadres preventing her entry into dilli like her cadres have prevented the entry of BJP leaders into bengal.Vikas wrote:AK was left to hang dry during GE in may. Not a single one of them stood by him (except maybe Mamta) and he knows that most of the above gentlemen are already burnt. Remember hue and cry over his pic with a hugging Lalu.pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/CNNnews18/status/12 ... 0472864775
After thanking Hanuman ji for his victory, Kujli is staying away form all opposition leaders! He want's a distance between himself and leaders like Raful, Mumtaz, Stalin and Yuchery. Good for him.
What good is Papu or Mumtaz or Stalin to him, Yechury is almost history. He has MSM, Non-BJP leadership & locals cheering for him.
Guha continues to server the Nehru-Gandi parivaar and whitewash their crimes while evidence continues to pile up to the contrary and more people speak and write about it. We are in a new era where the heroes of the past don't get automatic free pass.Ramachandra Guha @Ram_Guha
On 1st August 1947, Nehru told Patel, "you are the strongest pillar of the Cabinet". Patel replied: "You will have unquestioned loyalty and devotion from me in the cause for which no man in India has sacrificed as much as you have done".
https://twitter.com/DrSJaishankar/statu ... 8[quote]Dr. S. Jaishankar @DrSJaishankarAvatans Kumar @avatans
"When Sardar died in Bombay, Jawaharlal issued a direction to the ministers and the secretaries not to go to Bombay to attend the funeral... Jawaharlal also requested Dr. Rajendra Prasad not to go to Bombay.” ~ KM Munshi
Indian Constitutional Documents Pilgrimage to Freedom
The way things are going, I wont be surprised if Jehadidi visits Kalighat and RK mission centers before elections in a saffron sari and Puja ki Thali.chetak wrote:jehadi begum merely is hedging against the BJP cadres preventing her entry into dilli like her cadres have prevented the entry of BJP leaders into bengal.Vikas wrote: ………..
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Same old question ? Who is the face of this hope and opportunity ?Yagnasri wrote:But the Jihadidi has too many Jihadi fellows doing Jihad on Hindus on daily basis in WB even now. The ground level evil can not be whitewashed and unlike Delhi WB BJP and workers are fighting back and even sacrificing their life in many cases. The voters in WB are far more suppressed and suffering then any voter of Delhi. All they need a hope and opportunity. The got rid of communists and now they will get rid of the Jihadidi.
AAP's victory is perhaps the beginning of Hindu appeasement politics in India.
Till now, many different political parties, including the Congress, indulged in Muslim appeasement. This is one experiment, successfully carried out by the AAP, in indulging in Hindu appeasement.
In Uttar Pradesh, the BJP won 300 plus seats despite the fact that UP has almost 18 per cent of Muslims. They did not give a single ticket to Muslim candidates. Modi and the BJP successfully made Muslim voters irrelevant.
Now the issue is the politics which can be pursued by other political parties -- if they still subscribe to secular politics -- it is division of Hindu votes.
If they can divide Hindu votes as it happened in Delhi and add a further 10 per cent Muslim votes, then they will surely win.
Secular polity was the winner in Delhi despite the BJP getting close to 40 per cent of the votes. The Muslim electorate will not be irrelevant despite Modi's effort in that sense.
In Delhi there is 80 per cent Hindu population. The Muslim population is 14 per cent while the Sikhs make up 2 to 3 per cent of the population.
Now, the BJP got 38 per cent of the Hindu votes in Delhi and the rest of Hindu voters, that is 42 per cent, voted for the AAP.
AAP won because of the 14 per cent of Muslim voters. This way they got 53.5 per cent vote share.
If the Muslims vote tactically for the Opposition, then they can defeat the BJP and make their relevance better
Spot on Vikas about what resonates with poor and lower middle class. I was talking to a left leader around here and was saying if the current govt did not show their mardangi with Sabarimala issue, they would have gotten easily re-elected. Because I heard a speech by a bishop who runs educational instutions here that their bottom-line is getting hit because a lot of the bigger government schools have better facilities nowadays. Same thing I heard from IMA speeches too, about hospitals. The Trivandum medical college has 4,000 beds and treats 7 mill OP cases a year. It as been made quite sparkly, despite the crowds and that reflects. These 7 million patients have families of voters too, who observe all these and if they are neutral voters, it matters.Vikas wrote:
Nair Ji, By all local accounts, Govt schools and Clinics in Delhi were doing far better than what they were 8-10 years ago.
There maybe a picture or a random story there about to mock them but overall, there are very few success stories of Indian state delivering basic services to the common man without corruption (i.e. Before advent of Modi ji).
What resonates most with poor and lower middle class is Health, electricity, water, schooling and roof over the head and
it did with Kejriwal. Landslides twice in a politically enlightened population is no small feat of fake or scam. He also has no captive vote bank like BJP has or Congoons had.
Inflation which matters the most is tied to central govt and unprecedented rise in Onion and tomato prices recently did not add to BJP story.
As Shree Naveen Patnaik shows again and again, it is easily possible for a mediocre govt to come back, if you dont get into issues that causes disruption in minds of a vast percentage of public for more than 6 weeks. That was AAP's gameplan in the final stages of their rule and election campaign. They did not take any baits.Landslides twice in a politically enlightened population is no small feat of fake or scam.
this is merely a taqiya feint.OmkarC wrote:Worth mentioning this in the general forum instead due to the nature of the news, but the guy who threatened to finish off all Hindus in 15 minutes if there was no police in the country and who has a history of mocking Hindu gods, is now asking for funds to renovate the ancient Mahakali Hindu Temple in Hyderabad to prove his secular creds..
Akbaruddin also requested the CM to sanction Rs three crore for repairs, renovation of the Afzalgunj Masjid. Muslims offering prayers there are facing inconvenience, he said.
While asking for the expansion and development of the temple at a cost of Rs 10 Crore, the MLA pointed to the locals who may lose properties with such extension. “Compensate them by providing 800 square yards of land at Fareed Market, under the GHMC (Hyderabad’s civic body). Consider widening and development of the temple as a top priority work. This will be useful to the devotees,” Akbaruddin requested the CM.
[/quote]Continued ..pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/Ram_Guha/status/1227546347559014400Guha continues to server the Nehru-Gandi parivaar and whitewash their crimes while evidence continues to pile up to the contrary and more people speak and write about it. We are in a new era where the heroes of the past don't get automatic free pass.Ramachandra Guha @Ram_Guha
On 1st August 1947, Nehru told Patel, "you are the strongest pillar of the Cabinet". Patel replied: "You will have unquestioned loyalty and devotion from me in the cause for which no man in India has sacrificed as much as you have done".
https://twitter.com/avatans/status/1227576914568712193https://twitter.com/DrSJaishankar/statu ... 8[quote]Dr. S. Jaishankar @DrSJaishankarAvatans Kumar @avatans
"When Sardar died in Bombay, Jawaharlal issued a direction to the ministers and the secretaries not to go to Bombay to attend the funeral... Jawaharlal also requested Dr. Rajendra Prasad not to go to Bombay.” ~ KM Munshi
Indian Constitutional Documents Pilgrimage to Freedom
Exercise of writing history for politics in the past needs honest treatment. "When Sardar died, a deliberate campaign was begun to efface his memory. I know this, because I have seen it, and at times, I fell victim to it myself. " So says VP Menon.
https://twitter.com/DrSJaishankar/statu ... 0192348160Dr. S. Jaishankar @DrSJaishankar
Released an absorbing biography of VP Menon by @narayani_basu. Sharp contrast between Patel's Menon and Nehru's Menon. Much awaited justice done to a truly historical figure.
Dr. S. Jaishankar @DrSJaishankar
Learnt from the book that Nehru did not want Patel in the Cabinet in 1947 and omitted him from the initial Cabinet list. Clearly, a subject for much debate. Noted that the author stood her ground on this revelation.
Congress lower level leadership has successfully interiorized taqqiya and ass licking. Whine and bray as if they would have won Delhi if not for x,y,z factors. They have infighting before, during and after the elections. So whats new ?Sachin wrote:Am I getting this wrong, or is Deccan Herald the only news outlet still going on like a broken record on Anti-CAA protest?
Infighting erupts in Congress after Delhi poll loss. Mean while the two "national" parties CPI and CPI(M) has now said that leave alone imperialists, colonlialists, and communal fascists their biggest "class enemy" seems to be NOTA. NOTA scored more votes in Delhi elections than the duo.
dikgaj
@dikgaj
OK. everyone is teaching lessons to BJP over Delhi. But Delhi voting will only harden voting elsewhere and increase support for BJP. If ppl say "freebies" won election, then freebies can't be self-sustaining for long without gifts from outside the system. Turn those taps off.
the stance (CAA) on which pro-jihadi axis in India is equating the Delhi elections with and gloating on, is a relatively minor policy step with far reaching political signaling that is a mini "Dandi"-march moment - forcing all to choose sides. It seems trivial now.
But its political consequences, through all the vicious smiles of the hyenas arrayed against us, are so far reaching that neither its supporters nor opponents realize now. The enemy is celebrating now, yes, but they will cry in the long run.
not all defeats in battles are the same. some seed revenge and retribution of far greater order than the winners of the battle ever imagined. it shd only drive the nail in harder towards greater determination to drive the enemy out. completely. in every possible sense.
Delhi: It’s richest assembly ever; average assets at Rs 14.3 crore
I respectfully disagree and I think it is a dangerous deduction from the electoral results. Just like BJP discovered the power of great oratory, Leadership connect, development plank and Hindutva amplified by SM in 2014, BIF too has discovered a potent formula wherein all Islamists vote for a single party instead of many , add to it around 40% to 50% of the Hindu votes, You have a powerful horse who will most likely will pass the post first. This gaming the system becomes more powerful when you realise that street belief says that more Muslims participate in electoral process compared to Hindus. So Muslims are only a step away from getting a Hindu candidate of their choice elected in most of the cases.Manish_Sharma wrote:Brihaspati ji on Delhi elections results:
Twitter:
dikgaj
@dikgaj
OK. everyone is teaching lessons to BJP over Delhi. But Delhi voting will only harden voting elsewhere and increase support for BJP. If ppl say "freebies" won election, then freebies can't be self-sustaining for long without gifts from outside the system. Turn those taps off.
the stance (CAA) on which pro-jihadi axis in India is equating the Delhi elections with and gloating on, is a relatively minor policy step with far reaching political signaling that is a mini "Dandi"-march moment - forcing all to choose sides. It seems trivial now.
But its political consequences, through all the vicious smiles of the hyenas arrayed against us, are so far reaching that neither its supporters nor opponents realize now. The enemy is celebrating now, yes, but they will cry in the long run.
not all defeats in battles are the same. some seed revenge and retribution of far greater order than the winners of the battle ever imagined. it shd only drive the nail in harder towards greater determination to drive the enemy out. completely. in every possible sense.
VijaySethupathi @VijaySethuOffl · Feb 12
Lest others misunderstand the above post - @VijaySethuOffl is Actor Vijay Sethupathi's real twitter account. He has actually posted this image & asked the people creating such stories to stop spreading such rumours !.chetak wrote:VijaySethupathi @VijaySethuOffl · Feb 12
Removed the images
So, he posted against himself using his own twitter account or is he going to claim later that his account was hackedSaraLax wrote:Lest others misunderstand the above post - @VijaySethuOffl is Actor Vijay Sethupathi's real twitter account. He has actually posted this image & asked the people creating such stories to stop spreading such rumours !.chetak wrote:
Troubles Mount For Actor Joseph Vijay As Income Tax Dept Summons Him Over Tax Evasion Charges https://swarajyamag.com/insta/troubles- ... on-charges via @swarajyamag
Just to clarify, they are two different people. One goes by the screen name Vijay, full name Joseph Vijay Chandrasekhar, and the protagonist of this recent movie Bigil and a bunch of other films. He' been acting for a while now. The other actor is called Vijay Sethupathi and is relatively recent.chetak wrote:So, he posted against himself using his own twitter account or is he going to claim later that his account was hackedSaraLax wrote:
Lest others misunderstand the above post - @VijaySethuOffl is Actor Vijay Sethupathi's real twitter account. He has actually posted this image & asked the people creating such stories to stop spreading such rumours !.
Troubles Mount For Actor Joseph Vijay As Income Tax Dept Summons Him Over Tax Evasion Charges https://swarajyamag.com/insta/troubles- ... on-charges via @swarajyamag
