Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

saip · Post by **saip** » 13 Feb 2020 08:32

A very steep jump today because they changed how they count the infected. That resulted in one day increase of 14 K to over 60k and also deaths of 242
Death toll jumps by 242 in Hubei, where 14,840 new infections were recorded on Wednesday - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/asia/pri ... index.html
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 13 Feb 2020 09:01

chola wrote:Interesting video of the Costco in Shanghai. Looks pretty packed (maybe even chinis feel better that Costco won't stock civet cats and bats.)

Though kind of unnerving with everyone in masks. More unnerving is there are people without them. I see that and I'm heading in the other direction.

maybe they expect an extended lock down and are stocking up?

here is a cnbc interview from Beijing. looks like things on ground are tightening up with more controls. security guards have now wearing hazmat suits instead of masks.

watch from 7:24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEFyTOrEC4

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 13 Feb 2020 09:07

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coro ... index.html
New coronavirus case confirmed in southern California
From CNN's Sarah Moon
A new case of the coronavirus has been confirmed in Southern California’s Marine Corps Air Station Miramar in San Diego County, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention press officer Ana Toro told CNN.
....
Death toll jumps by 242 in Hubei province while the global death toll from coronavirus rises to 1,357
From CNN’s Steven Jiang in Beijing
The Hubei health authority reported that 242 more people died from the coronavirus in Hubei province on Wednesday, raising the death toll in the epicenter since the beginning of the outbreak to 1,310.
This brings the total number of deaths in mainland China to at least 1,355. The global death toll is at least 1,357, with one death in Hong Kong and another in the Philippines.
Hubei authorities confirmed an additional 14,840 cases of the virus in Hubei on Wednesday, which brings the total number of cases in the epicenter of the outbreak to 48,206. The 14,840 figure includes both test confirmed cases and clinically diagnosed cases.
The government explained they are now adding "clinically diagnosed cases" in the tally of cases to make it easier for these patients to receive treatment early.
.....
Gautam

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 13 Feb 2020 09:17

the latest video from downtown shanghai. we see very few people and most of them are in supermarkets buying groceries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh9_WMkLB_k

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 13 Feb 2020 09:39

Amber G. wrote:
...sequence matches one found in bats (is this enough to say the COVID-19 virus came from bats?).
You may already know this.. (may be some expert here put in more details).. but it is fair to say that virtually *all* such corona virus (SARS, MERS etc) originated from Bats.. IOW Bats are full of those viruses. For SARS it "jumped" from bats to civets to human.. for MERS from bats to camels and for COVID, it (or at least some think) it jumped from bats to pangolins ...

I thought that poultry (chicken and ducks) and pigs were involved in the spread of the virus some how. These animals are reared very near to humans in China, enabling the virus to jump species. I remember a large number of animals were culled in China some years ago. Those days no one spoke about eating bat soup on the sly!
Gautam

chola · Post by **chola** » 13 Feb 2020 09:44

Atmavik wrote: maybe they expect an extended lock down and are stocking up?

here is a cnbc interview from Beijing. looks like things on ground are tightening up with more controls. security guards have now wearing hazmat suits instead of masks.

watch from 7:24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEFyTOrEC4

I think there would have been panic buying in Cheen for weeks now. The second they heard quarantine, it would have been the expected reaction.

Atmavik wrote:the latest video from downtown shanghai. we see very few people and most of them are in supermarkets buying groceries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh9_WMkLB_k

Completely empty metro is eerie. That tells me that outside the grocery stores no economic activity is being generated. The world's largest economy (by consumption totals) has been knocked back to subsistence level.

tandav · Post by **tandav** » 13 Feb 2020 10:46

All I could think of is how I would have loved to live here instead of Mumbai or any other Indian city (nCov notwithstanding). There is a certain planning, beauty, aesthetics and ergonomics that the Chinese have created that we have to emulate

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 13 Feb 2020 10:53

Too bad they are only giving infection incidents in the west. Breakdown by age, ethnicity and most of all disease severity would be welcome.

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 13 Feb 2020 15:51

Case Fatality Rate (CFR): rep portion of cases who eventually die due to diseases. this is based on paperand also as suggested above.
CFR = death/(death+recovered)
as on 13/feb/2020 following are the figures

Worldwide CFR = 1369/(1369+6017) = 18.53%
mainland China CFR = 1367/(1367+5944)=18.69%
Hubei alone CFR = 1310/(1310+3441) = 27.57%
rest of Hubei (China) CFR = (1367-1310)/((1367-1310)+(5944-3441)) = 2.22%
rest of world CFR = 2/(2+73) = 2.66%

so CFR is higly skewed towards bigger number due to Hubei data.
Fatality might may be due to lack of medical care and not mainly due to COVID19

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 13 Feb 2020 18:06

Two western sources:

China accused of under-reporting coronavirus outbreak

Luo Jun, a 45-year-old woman from Wuhan, said she had been suffering from severe viral pneumonia since Saturday. With private cars banned from the roads, she struggled to walk the 5km to a hospital that would treat her. Once she was there, she underwent a scan that confirmed her symptoms.

This one caught my eye. Raises a few questions:
- The roads are empty because of this ban. Which means public transport also is banned?
- After building up all that fine infra, this really sick woman had to walk a long distance during a crisis situation. Is it because civil society does not have the confidence to self-organize and step up to help as in say, India? Or is it because they are too used to govt doing everything and dont want to get into trouble by challenging what the perceive as govt domains?

China Tries Dramatic Reset of Virus Fight to Ease Mounting Anger

The moves came within hours of each other Thursday. First, health authorities revealed that cases in Hubei province, where the disease first emerged, had surged by 45% to almost 50,000 after they included a new group of patients. That raised the global tally to almost 60,000 , dashing hopes that the epidemic might be easing.

Then, authorities announced the replacement of the two most senior Communist Party officials in Hubei and its hard-hit capital, Wuhan. Shanghai Mayor Ying Yong -- a former top judge who once served under President Xi Jinping -- was named to replace embattled provincial boss, Jiang Chaoliang.

Is it that those two concealed the grave situation well or did not well?

Arun.prabhu · Post by **Arun.prabhu** » 13 Feb 2020 19:34

It's now 218 infected out of 713 tested on the Diamond Princess.

https://apnews.com/ff4f6baa1b49f96dc15c236b5b467369

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 13 Feb 2020 19:46

hnair wrote:Two western sources:
- After building up all that fine infra, this really sick woman had to walk a long distance during a crisis situation. Is it because civil society does not have the confidence to self-organize and step up to help as in say, India? Or is it because they are too used to govt doing everything and dont want to get into trouble by challenging what the perceive as govt domains?

Is it that those two concealed the grave situation well or did not well?

Its surprising that she had to get to a hospital on her own. I would have assumed that she'd be asked to stay indoors and medical personnel would get to her to test and then (if she has symptoms) move to hospital in an ambulance. If that's not happened even when they are tackling it on a war footing, it suggests that the system is overwhelmed.

Whether or not the 2 sacked officials handled it well or badly is irrelevant. Scapegoats were needed to protect Eleven and they were it.

kit · Post by **kit** » 13 Feb 2020 20:46

hnair wrote:Two western sources:

China accused of under-reporting coronavirus outbreak

Luo Jun, a 45-year-old woman from Wuhan, said she had been suffering from severe viral pneumonia since Saturday. With private cars banned from the roads, she struggled to walk the 5km to a hospital that would treat her. Once she was there, she underwent a scan that confirmed her symptoms.
This one caught my eye. Raises a few questions:
- The roads are empty because of this ban. Which means public transport also is banned?
- After building up all that fine infra, this really sick woman had to walk a long distance during a crisis situation. Is it because civil society does not have the confidence to self-organize and step up to help as in say, India? Or is it because they are too used to govt doing everything and dont want to get into trouble by challenging what the perceive as govt domains?

China Tries Dramatic Reset of Virus Fight to Ease Mounting Anger

The moves came within hours of each other Thursday. First, health authorities revealed that cases in Hubei province, where the disease first emerged, had surged by 45% to almost 50,000 after they included a new group of patients. That raised the global tally to almost 60,000 , dashing hopes that the epidemic might be easing.

Then, authorities announced the replacement of the two most senior Communist Party officials in Hubei and its hard-hit capital, Wuhan. Shanghai Mayor Ying Yong -- a former top judge who once served under President Xi Jinping -- was named to replace embattled provincial boss, Jiang Chaoliang.
Is it that those two concealed the grave situation well or did not well?

most likely the former , convenient scape goats, they were doing only their "job" anyway.. a very familiar situation to anyone in corporate america

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 13 Feb 2020 20:56

APji, the cruise ship probably has > 5000 people. So the correct way to interpret the statistics is 218 nCVO/5000. 4%. Zero fatalities so far (2weeks+ after leaving China?), if u believe that the one dead crewmember died of "unrelated causes". Why didn't they say WHAT caused a healthy sailor/attendant to die?
Still worrying of course.
Now this from ABC news: Another 15000 "new" cases.
Is it the expected case of the real magnitude leaking out in small drips, or is there a massive new infection? I think the former.

IOW, "the market" has already "priced in" that many more cases will be reported. Not unusual in major disasters such as earthquakes or tsunamis.
Maybe a huge death toll will eventually be revealed when people go to all those abandoned/barred homes and see people who starved to death if the pneumonia didn't kill them.

The part about banning public transport - and not evacuating people - is well... non-shocking considering that this is the other side of cheen's smiling made-up faces and glitz. Then again think of the public services/ military people who would be asked to go do the evacuation, day in, day out in the face of death.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 13 Feb 2020 21:04

Cheen are nothing if not fast-acting with innovation. At least in the Smiling MadeUp Faces (SMUF) parts. Look at those fancy Disnifecting Stations. Presumably using 140 proof vodka?

Must be a HUGE market for that worldwide.

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 13 Feb 2020 21:16

UlanBatori wrote: The part about banning public transport - and not evacuating people - is well... non-shocking considering that this is the other side of cheen's smiling made-up faces and glitz. Then again think of the public services/ military people who would be asked to go do the evacuation, day in, day out in the face of death.

By now Army should have been called for. Why is it that army has not takenover the healthcare? Already civic healthcare have been stretched too much now. I doubt atleast in wuhan health care or even people can take in any more.

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 13 Feb 2020 21:33

madhu wrote:
UlanBatori wrote: The part about banning public transport - and not evacuating people - is well... non-shocking considering that this is the other side of cheen's smiling made-up faces and glitz. Then again think of the public services/ military people who would be asked to go do the evacuation, day in, day out in the face of death.
By now Army should have been called for. Why is it that army has not takenover the healthcare? Already civic healthcare have been stretched too much now. I doubt atleast in wuhan health care or even people can take in any more.

Unlike India, where the quality of healthcare the armed forces can provide is significantly higher than the civil authority (a 100 bed army hospital is better than a 100 bed municipal hospital), in China civil hospitals would presumably be better equipped and my not need army assistance. Also, unlikely the PLA has the ability to deal with infectious viruses on a large scale. The PLA might be involved in disposing bodies and enforcing quarantines though.

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 13 Feb 2020 22:17

Some interesting charts

Source:
https://t.co/yxLnPmdtC6?amp=1

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc ... 5/fulltext

Tweeted by https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 13 Feb 2020 22:36

Everyone - health authorities managing the outbreak, many doctors I know in academic field and scientists/mathematicians - is trying to understand the critical factors that portends - aspects which matters and help.

We all know coronavirus has killed more 1300, 60,000+ people are sick - huge portions of central China came to a standstill and rattled millions around - even caused to open a brf thread. Data in the initial stages have been murky but everyday we know more. And I think in last few days we have enough data to understand a few things..

Some background - I am *not* an expert in this field. I can read papers and have friends/students/colleagues in the field. I do understand mathematical tools.

Here are a few things which have not gotten too much analysis in popular news media, although *I think* are *very* likely to be correct and important. Some experts agree with this. (Does not mean it is will be 100% correct - we will see pretty soon)

- In most cases the outbreak has been mild:.

Virus’s destructiveness has hidden one encouraging aspect of this outbreak - So far, about 80+ percent of the cases (including all 14 in the United States ) have been mild, (symptoms that require little or no medical intervention.) and IMO this proportion is undercount.

(At a presentation on the disease recently officials from CDC noted this fact - none of the 14 US patients required "extensive care".. and all are improving.. similar reports from other cases outside China - US officials set a very low threshold for testing and per one official "If we were not looking so hard we might not have found them")
(Of course, many are considering the possibility that US patients sample - very healthy, rich, those who travel, young etc, may be the reason. 11 of US patients travelled to Wuhan, 2 were spouses who got in US) (Added later: Now there are 15 cases in USA)

But (I think - and those who study viruses seem to agree) - The data on China hides *large* amount of mild cases - only recently large numbers were added but previously only serious cases were counted..(most surveillance were about those who were in hospitals)..When standard statistical tool are applied I think so many mild cases is a real hallmark of this disease and makes it so different from, say SARS.
(Some numbers I have seen puts this, closer to common cold than SARS)
(Recently - WHO's expert Ryan said something like that in a news briefing in Wuhan about virus's aggressiveness)

I think many who study viruses are kind of optimistic. We will see soon enough.

- For the elderly and those with underlying heart disease, diabetes or other conditions, the disease can be quite severe. In six weeks some of the characteristics are becoming clear. most of the victims are in this group - often after pneumonia or other respiratory problems that lead to organ failure.

- Healthy, younger adults seem to do better, and there have been few fatalities among children.
- In coronaviruses that there is a spectrum of illness: (Some people's immune system is responding better than others)
- Smoking (and air pollution may be a factor: for vast majority of deaths in China.

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Outbreaks like this one tend to have a large number of severe cases, as the sickest people flock to hospitals and come to doctors’ attention. And in Wuhan, where the health-care system is overwhelmed, people cannot find a hospital to test them for the virus, let alone to treat their symptoms. So patients with milder versions may be at home, uncounted, waiting out the epidemic.
(In the latest report from WHO I saw - 45,171 confirmed cases in 25 countries including China, with just 441 of the cases outside China. The WHO classified 8,204 of the Chinese cases as severe, meaning virtually all the rest are mild.)

(Outside China, US data is pretty good. In Singapore 15 out of 50 have been fully recovered and sent home - all except 8 in the hospital are stable or improving etc)

Editend later: Thanks Madhu for the charts - will look at it...
PS - Now there are 15 cases in USA
And the best practical advice to all:

Get sleep, and increase immunity!

sooraj · Post by **sooraj** » 13 Feb 2020 22:48

Evacuate us, India and Pak students appeal their govts after China opens hospitals in campuses

Vietnam quarantines area with 10,000 residents over coronavirus

India has almost 16,000 under surveillance

Hubei's virus-hit county to add another hospital for COVID-19 patients

Xishui, one of the hardest-hit counties in central China's Hubei Province amid the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak, has planned to rebuild a hospital in seven days.

According to the health commission of Huanggang, which administers Xishui, the city reported 2,662 confirmed cases COVID-19 as of Tuesday, including about 300 in Xishui.

The county's virus control and prevention headquarters said it will rebuild the new maternity and childcare hospital, which is under construction, into a temporary designated hospital for COVID-19 patients. An estimated 200 hospital beds will be put into operation within one week.

The rebuilding has begun since Tuesday, with numerous excavators and forklifts as well as nearly 100 workers working around the clock.

Coronavirus: China sends 4,000 more medical military personnel to Wuhan to battle epidemic

White House does not have ‘high confidence’ in China’s coronavirus information, official says

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 13 Feb 2020 22:49

Amber G. wrote:
Virus’s destructiveness has hidden one encouraging aspect of this outbreak - So far, about 80+ percent of the cases (including all 14 in the United States ) have been mild, (symptoms that require little or no medical intervention.) and IMO this proportion is undercount.

This is what is puzzeling me from the begining. Why this kind of war footing? I think it could have been handled in a better way.
2% CFR is nothing for the kind of hype that has been built around.

chola · Post by **chola** » 13 Feb 2020 23:03

tandav wrote:All I could think of is how I would have loved to live here instead of Mumbai or any other Indian city (nCov notwithstanding). There is a certain planning, beauty, aesthetics and ergonomics that the Chinese have created that we have to emulate

It is a Far Eastern thing. The cities of Japan, Korea and Taiwan are similar -- only the scale is different in Cheen because their government can run roughshod over rights in acquiring land.

We could have started emulating Japan a long time ago when they took off in the 1950s and '60s and Taiwan and SoKo in the 1970s. But only when Cheen took off did we really start thinking we should make Mumbai match Shanghai.

chola · Post by **chola** » 13 Feb 2020 23:18

madhu wrote:
Amber G. wrote:
Virus’s destructiveness has hidden one encouraging aspect of this outbreak - So far, about 80+ percent of the cases (including all 14 in the United States ) have been mild, (symptoms that require little or no medical intervention.) and IMO this proportion is undercount.
This is what is puzzeling me from the begining. Why this kind of war footing? I think it could have been handled in a better way.
2% CFR is nothing for the kind of hype that has been built around.

Tiannenmen Square could have been handled a better way too. But they overreacted and massacred college students which led to an embargo that lasted years and stifled their economy until the WTO entry.

The same thing is happening again with the same or worse shock to their economy. Authoritarian government can overreact with little hindrance.

That said, I am glad Cheen is a commie authoritarian state in this case. A democratic Cheen wouldn't have been able quarantine the nation. Mild or not, this thing would have spread much further.

The CPC did us all a favor by containing the disease mainly to Cheen itself.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 14 Feb 2020 00:04

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/worl ... virus.html
Coronavirus Live Updates: China Expands Mass Roundup
A mass roundup of sick or possibly infected people is expanding beyond Wuhan, the city at the center of the coronavirus outbreak, to include other cities in Hubei Province.
A mass roundup in central China is expanded.
Top officials in Beijing on Thursday expanded their mass roundup of sick or possibly infected people beyond Wuhan, the city at the center of the coronavirus outbreak, to include other cities in Hubei Province that have been hit hard by the crisis, according to the state-run CCTV broadcaster.
The orders to begin mass quarantines in Wuhan came down from the government last week to “round up everyone who should be rounded up,” part of a “wartime” campaign to contain the fast-spreading coronavirus outbreak.
Confirmed patients with mild symptoms were put in large quarantine spaces. Suspected cases went to converted hotels and schools to be isolated. Close contacts of confirmed cases and patients with a fever who could have been infected were also put in separate facilities.
But the state-led effort has been plagued by experiences of chaos and disorganization, deepening anxiety and frustration in a city already on edge from a prolonged lockdown.
....
Gautam

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2020 00:58

sooraj wrote:Evacuate us, India and Pak students appeal their govts after China opens hospitals in campuses

I thought desi ishtudantz are all evacuated long since? What r these doing there still? Disguised as Pakis?

LakshmanPST · Post by **LakshmanPST** » 14 Feb 2020 01:01

^^^I heard in some Telugu news channel that few of the Indians wanted to stay back & continue studies due to their financial situation... They were given necessary money, food supplies and other stuff...

chola · Post by **chola** » 14 Feb 2020 01:04

UlanBatori wrote:
sooraj wrote:Evacuate us, India and Pak students appeal their govts after China opens hospitals in campuses
I thought desi ishtudantz are all evacuated long since? What r these doing there still? Disguised as Pakis?

LoL. We should make them put on a bindi before allowing them on the plane. The zealots will not be able to abide.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2020 01:05

One learns something new every din..NOW v r talking Black Swan!

the country’s Far Eastern border with China has been closed. A high percentage of the world’s sex toys are produced there.
According to Lapin, supplies have so far stood firm as his company doesn’t import many products directly from China. “Most are from America, Europe, and Russia,” he explained. However, the businessman added that many American and European companies produce their goods in China – and this could lead to a scarcity of naughty merchandise. “Over time the situation may become threatening. If coronavirus causes the borders to be closed for a year, then the goods produced in China, including for Europe and the USA, will simply not be there,” he worries.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 14 Feb 2020 01:29

CDC confirms 15th US case
(..The patient arrived in the U.S. on Feb. 7 on a State Department-chartered flight from Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak in China. The passengers remain quarantined at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland.... is currently isolated and receiving medical care at a designated hospital nearby...)

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 14 Feb 2020 01:49

Anyone involved with fraud detection based on number pattern can tell that Chinese are doing Madrassa Maths on the coronavirus numbers. Yesterday, they decided to actually count the symptomatic patients and increased the number by 15000 instead of the regular 2-3k. However to maintain the 2.1% fatality rate, they bumped up the dead by 152 instead of regular 100+. This again brought the fatality rate to 2.1% ( 3470/60444).

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2020 02:43

Probably means that the disease has plateau-ed and maybe falling off. Stock market has positively jumped. "Deaths" will continue to be reported for another 6 months at 2.1%. Otherwise the percentage would have increased. The country that invented all those scams (like "this is the IRS calling" to "your car's warranty has expired..") surely has a plan behind this constant 2.1% policy?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2020 02:51

1st Japanese death: 80-year old woman, not related to cruise ship. Meanwhile another cruise ship arrives in Kampuchea.

Meanwhile, a cruise ship which spent two weeks at sea after being turned away by five countries over fears that someone aboard might have the coronavirus finally arrived at a port in Cambodia on Thursday.

The MS Westerdam, carrying 1,455 passengers and 802 crew, docked in Sihanoukville in the evening after anchoring offshore early in the morning to allow Cambodian officials to board the vessel and collect samples from passengers with any signs of ill health or flu-like symptoms. Fluid samples from 20 people were sent by helicopter to Phnom Penh, Cambodia’s capital, for virus tests, Reuters reported.

The ship’s captain, Vincent Smit, initially told passengers in a letter that some could leave Cambodia as early as Friday.

Isn't there some Law Of The Sea that requires nations to provide aid?

chola · Post by **chola** » 14 Feb 2020 03:03

Very interesting video on the chini wet markets!

It was filmed just before panic so you get to see the thing operating normally.

"Worst time of year for this virus. People taking live chicken home with them ..."

"We had three live chicken in our bathroom ... before sacrificing one to the Lunar New Year gods ..."

Actually, the wet markets look cleaner than those in Desh but we don't have the exotic critters.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2020 04:07

The stocks that are going to get hit are those that live on chinese tourism

Most nations will simply not allow tourists from cheen for the next few months. Plus the Conference/Sympsium Industry in cheen.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2020 04:41

Some good reporting from Al Jazeera

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 14 Feb 2020 07:15

chola wrote:Actually, the wet markets look cleaner than those in Desh but we don't have the exotic critters.

Agree. I remember the meat/ fish markets in Kolkata being much dirtier, with flies all around.

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 14 Feb 2020 09:13

If one assumes that the peak of the infections was around Jan 23rd i.e. the day of Wuhan lockdown, then the week of Feb 6 would be the week with the most deaths. THose who would survive would have gotten better by the end of week 2=Feb 6. Maybe we will see the death toll come down later this week, atleast from Wuhan (Hubei province might be a different story). But when the death rate is perfectly stable at 2.1%, who needs predictive tools and modeling.

Arun.prabhu · Post by **Arun.prabhu** » 14 Feb 2020 09:44

Signals on how the virus has affected Chinese daily life and economic output:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china ... ats-really

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/chi ... e-scenario

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2020 09:45

So the cheen will keep the rate constant, and will not report "problem solved" until the disease has practically disappeared. At which point no one can sustain the charge of "coverup". Neat damage-control strategy from experts!

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2020 09:50

China is the ultimate Corporation Nation. Immense human suffering will simply be swept under the wet-market floor. The New Dawn will be all that matters. A couple of weeks, or a month, from now, the sidewalks and walls will appear washed with 140-proof vodka, and gleaming infrastructure with smart painted-smiling-faced workers happily marching to the workplace. The horrors if remembered, will be safely locked behind the Painted Smiling Face. Only tomorrow matters. To quote (misattributed to Kalidasa):

Yesterday is but a dream..
tomorrow a vision of hope.
Look to this day, for it is Life,
and if you look back,
you will see the Gobi LeEducation Centel!

And this is what the stock market cares about.

The heroic medical people, many of whom will have died sacrificing themselves to save others. The ambulance staff, the military people. The airport and train station staff who kept things running, the food service and sanitation people, those charged with disposing of the bodies.....
Perhaps some will be remembered, the survivors rewarded. But China never wasted time and resources on that, did they?