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ArjunPandit wrote:what is happening at shaheen bagh these days? election results are over..love affairs have also blossomed there...all drama has happened..is it still happening there ...also are the anti CAA protests still happening in other cities? dont find much in news these days as expected..
chetak wrote:
So, he posted against himself using his own twitter account or is he going to claim later that his account was hacked
Just to clarify, they are two different people. One goes by the screen name Vijay, full name Joseph Vijay Chandrasekhar, and the protagonist of this recent movie Bigil and a bunch of other films. He' been acting for a while now. The other actor is called Vijay Sethupathi and is relatively recent.
Not sure how true is this, or who all are involved, etc., but wanted to clarify that there are two different people with the same name.
this is the second time that joseph vijay is getting caught for IT scams.
last time he was let off after paying a huge penalty after the black component was regularized and tax was recovered over the penalty
why is Vijay Sethupathi poking his nose when it is clear to all in TN that it is joseph vijay who is in the dock
but it is also true that many xtian actors are running huge conversion rackets.
The BIF has found the right vehicle for their conversion agenda.
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काकाश्री @pawarspeaks, Maharashtra police has meekly agreed to handover Elgar case to NIA & now Maha Govt is conducting NPR without much fuss. What's the deal?
Aditya_V wrote:Regarding some of BS posted above. The actor who goes by screename Arya is avery well connected Malayalee peaceful, he will be last person to convert.
Thank you chetakji. Aside from the well known bhaiwood formula , now we have another formula that converts illegal funding to legal funds and controls a powerful medium. In TN I can echo that there are conversion movie gangs that have been perfected. It is either conversion gang or the DMK family that controls all the levers in the movie business.
Released an absorbing biography of VP Menon by @narayani_basu. Sharp contrast between Patel's Menon and Nehru's Menon. Much awaited justice done to a truly historical figure.
Learnt from the book that Nehru did not want Patel in the Cabinet in 1947 and omitted him from the initial Cabinet list. Clearly, a subject for much debate. Noted that the author stood her ground on this revelation.
Bhell .. the last highlighted part bissed the distortion mightly ..
This is a myth, that has been comprehensively demolished by Professor Srinath Raghavan in The Print. Besides, promoting fake news about, and false rivalries between, the builders of modern India is not the job of the Foreign Minister. He should leave this to the BJP’s IT Cell.
This is a RESEARCHED BOOK by my friend & colleague @narayani_basu whose scholarship is beyond reproach. Sad to see you attack her documented primary research based on “opinions”.... classic definition of propaganda
This is a myth, that has been comprehensively demolished by Professor Srinath Raghavan in The Print. Besides, promoting fake news about, and false rivalries between, the builders of modern India is not the job of the Foreign Minister. He should leave this to the BJP’s IT Cell.
This is a RESEARCHED BOOK by my friend & colleague @narayani_basu whose scholarship is beyond reproach. Sad to see you attack her documented primary research based on “opinions”.... classic definition of propaganda
ArjunPandit wrote:what is happening at shaheen bagh these days? election results are over..love affairs have also blossomed there...all drama has happened..is it still happening there ...also are the anti CAA protests still happening in other cities? dont find much in news these days as expected..
Looks empty based on some of the pictures posted here, and also not on news anymore. I think crazy's landslide victory and seeing BJP humiliated has given them a temporary high. I expect them to enact some theatrics during Trump bahadur's visit.
But that said, I don't think BJP should make any apologies for raising Shaheen Bagh to a feverish pitch. As ModiJi himself said, it was an experiment by BIF.
My own views are that BJP did arouse their cadre, but didn't make a difference to the final result as the #s were stacked in favor of crazy. The silent Hindus who voted for crazy did not see through the BIF gameplan and instead were lured by crazy's freebies and appeal. That was unfortunate.
Maybe some over the cuff remarks made in the heat of the moment like Delhi election are India Vs Pak could have been avoided, or Anurag Thakur goading the goli maaro sloganeering could have been a bit restrained. I mean after the crowd chanted 1-2 times, he should have toned down and changed the slogan to something else like shame them instead of goli maaro .
But I feel, its a complete sham of an anal-yses by libarandus that somehow Delhiites were turned off by 'hate speech'. Give a f!king break.
chetak wrote:this is the second time that joseph vijay is getting caught for IT scams.
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why is Vijay Sethupathi poking his nose when it is clear to all in TN that it is joseph vijay who is in the dock
So looks like Joseph Vijay and his pals are into money laundering big time. And when they get caught they play the minority victim card. This was the same trick Sharukh Khan tried when he said "intolerance" is rising in India (when IT Dept sent him a notice). The other characters like Vijay Sethupathi etc may be joining the chorus mainly to look relevant in the industry and also to please the head-honchos. The movie industry has its own dadas and king makers and kissing their a$$ (literally and figuratively) is a minimum requirement if some one wants to get movies to act. So if a dada or king maker faces the heat the underlings all gang up and start their dramas to impress the dada/king pin and also to trick more gullible 'fans'. The movie industry actually is at the same moral level of pimping and other vice.
maybe this guy is converting people to pissfuls
Peacefools generally believe in 'poaching' & 'converting' kafir women . Converting men is not generally their primary focus area. The convert any thing which moves is more of the strategy from the religion of love groups.
Dear Ramesh je you are right about what you mention . But you still miss the point , initially Nehru omitted Patel's name. Later he added his name on Mountbatten's persuasion. Read the book " Witness to an Era by Frank Moraes" detail via @BebaakBanarasii
It's shameful that Congress has shown it's true colors. It just insulted Veer Savarkar by calling him a rapist in it's mouthpiece Shidori! CONgress insults Savarkar
Did some quick calculations on Delhi polls. BJP+ got 40% votes. 87% of Delhi are Hindu + Sikhs. So 46% of Hindu+Sikh voted for BJP. BJP campaigned 4 only 2 weeks, had just 1 local issue (Shahinbagh), rest national issues, no local leadership, incumbent was popular & populist.
The vote share that BJP got among Hindus & Sikhs is therefore phenomenal. They need only 10% more Hindus & Sikhs to vote for them. That’s the function of local leadership. A good leader always adds 10%. Modi adds 10% to every poll that’s for him.
So, Shah didn’t fail in the campaign. He failed in the work in last 5 years - the work of getting good local leader, helping to cut out the infighting, standing with him or her. BJP in Delhi has good options, at least 2 among the MPs.
That 46% Hindus&Sikhs voted for BJP despite 2 weeks campaign, no local leader, no local issue except Shahinbagh, popularity & populism of incumbent shows Hindus&Sikhs emotionally vested in BJP, which has been strengthened by laws passed in 2019.
To take the last lap of 10% more, for state polls, BJP needs a strong state level mass leader. There are options in Delhi BJP. If central BJP avails of them, BJP would win next time. If they don’t, BJP would lose.Without anti incumbency 1 can’t win a state poll w/o a state leader
sudeepj wrote:In the 2019 Loksabha elections, BJP won all seven seats, polling 58% of the votes. AAP polled 18% and Congress polled 22%.
For AAP to win, all of the Congress vote bank will need to transfer seamlessly to AAP and AAP will also need to swing a substantial percentage of voters who voted for BJP in the LokSabha elections.
I dont think this is about to happen.
people vote differently for Parliament and Assembly.
Quite right in hind sight! If the BJP had a strong CM candidate instead of Manoj Tiwary, there could have been a contest. They did increase their vote percentage but not by enough.
Isn't Manoj Tiwari the guy who came on TV and gloated ki dekhna, you will see us winning when results come out.
Such dumbassery should be avoided.
I hope BJP has a CM face in every election so people know whom they are getting. And done democratically rather than an appointee from the top.
His interview on Aaj Tak was shocking. Couldn’t form a single logical sentence on how he would improve Delhi. Eg. mentioned price rise will be solved. Interviewer asked him how exactly and said something like “modi ji ke aane se khud solve ho jayega”. Arey bhai, candidate tum ho ki Modi ji. It was another example of mediocrity hiding behind Modi’s name.
This is a myth, that has been comprehensively demolished by Professor Srinath Raghavan in The Print. Besides, promoting fake news about, and false rivalries between, the builders of modern India is not the job of the Foreign Minister. He should leave this to the BJP’s IT Cell.
This is a RESEARCHED BOOK by my friend & colleague @narayani_basu whose scholarship is beyond reproach. Sad to see you attack her documented primary research based on “opinions”.... classic definition of propaganda
Nikhil T wrote:
I don’t claim to be a history expert, but this letter from JLN seems to be contrary to what Jaishankar claimed.
Does it though? This seems to be the formal letter of invitation, as we know from history SVP was a minister in that cabinet,so nothing surprising there.
The point of contention is that his name was not in Nehru's initial list of ministers. This letter does nothing to disprove that.
Further, Nehru's callous treatment of Patel's daughter and strong opposition to his nationalist policies (both of which are a matter of historical record) are entirely consistent with him not wanting Patel in his cabinet.
Jawahar was the first Manchurian candidate (though I doubt Jawahar was indoctrinated to support British, he did that willingly).
Let me share what I have heard of the Nehru family (and I will not go into CT that they were muslims etc)-
Nehru's traditional house in Delhi was burned during 1857 mutiny, it was suspected by the mutineers that he was with the British (you can also find evidence of just the contrary). But hold that thought and go with that the Nehrus (that would be JLN grand father and great grandfather) were in good books of the Britishers.
They shifted to Agra, and Motilal's brother there became a very successful lawyer (I leave it to the judgement of the reader to think that to be a successful lawyer in British court, do you have to be competent and upright or it could be that if you were loyal to them, we have examples for both). Motilal followed his brother's footstep and became a bigger successful lawyer, earned very big. So much that JLN's cloth went to Switzerland for dry cleaning (as India had no such facility). MLN was Congress head for two terms and was part of many agreements where he would support Britishers right to rule India only if they gave this or that liberty (dominion status etc. or commissioning of Indian officers, British anyways did not have so many men to officiate IA and live in India). He was very much opposed to all leaders that wanted outright independence and (this is per official JLN/IG/Romila Thapar approved history) would every now and then sabotage outright independence by joining this or that British led initiative (in name of Ahimsa, or practicality..). MLN had many many british friends and neighbors in Allahabad. Many of these tutored young JLN. JLN in his childhood had more friends that were much more fairer than him ,than who were not fairer (and he was quite fair by Indian standard)
His son, one Jawahar Lal Nehru found a very easy life, being son of one of the richest person, a very successful lawyer and politically well established individual. It is alleged that though JLN was himself a lawyer, he never fought any case (he had enough money, so fighting a case for a living was not an issue).
Due to JLN great talent (that had nothing to do with his father's wealth, or his father being congress head twice, or his friendship with Britishers (or as alleged their agent), he soon found himself heading congress (just like talent of Shri Sonia Maino Gandhi and shri Rahul Gandhi have seen them heading congress). By that time, it looks like India would gain independence (WW1 had sapped Britain power, while later WW2 would completely destroy it), somehow JLN was always found to be at the right place, right time. Sometime leading resolution for independence only later to be compromised to self rule or this or that.
He was very keen to give away 1/3rd of India (with a heavy heart of course, if you were weighing it at that time), the right states (Chittagong - so that NE did not have sea access), J&K so that India would not touch USSR or not intervene in Hyderabad so that it can remain independent and encourage other 500 princely states to remain so or later demand so.
Like his history one can claim that he wanted JK with India, and when India was winning it mysteriously took it to UN (just like he and his dad would advocate full independence and then readily agree to a compromise).
Since JLN's childhood, he had more British friends, companion and acquaintances than he had Indians one. He had read more British literature and knew English better than he knew Indian Literature or any other Indian language. His understanding and appreciation of religion also followed the same pattern, more appreciation of alien faith and ridicule of the native. (The instance of him slapping some very renowned ascetic are quite famous). Yet by some miracle, as per congress pasand history and historian, he was the greatest Indian to have lived, who won us independence and produced daughter, grand kids, great grand kids , and grander after that who are still serving this country!!
ArjunPandit wrote:what is happening at shaheen bagh these days? election results are over..love affairs have also blossomed there...all drama has happened..is it still happening there ...also are the anti CAA protests still happening in other cities? dont find much in news these days as expected..
Looks empty based on some of the pictures posted here, and also not on news anymore. I think crazy's landslide victory and seeing BJP humiliated has given them a temporary high.
Give a f!king break.
What is with the language and self-flagging Bro ?
Since when did losing a election equaled huiliation.
CRamS wrote:
Looks empty based on some of the pictures posted here, and also not on news anymore. I think crazy's landslide victory and seeing BJP humiliated has given them a temporary high.
Give a f!king break.
What is with the language and self-flagging Bro ?
Since when did losing a election equaled huiliation.
CRamS is a mole, he takes secret pleasure inserting such sentences in his posts. Example ".....US pissing on India....."
Congress party is continuously insulting our great personalities.
In the recent issue of ‘Shidori’, Maharashtra Congress’ mouthpiece, 2 articles got published on Veer Savarkar ji. In the first they termed him as ‘Mafiveer’(माफीवीर) & in other, ‘a rapist.’
#CONgressInsultsSavarkar
Devendra Fadnavis @Dev_Fadnavis
Both these articles shows the dirty mentality of congress party.
Earlier ShivSena had said this dirt in MadhyaPradesh will not come to Maharashtra.
Does ShivSena agree with articles? We demand an apology from Congress Party,withdraw the book & State Govt should ban book.
Devendra Fadnavis @Dev_Fadnavis
ShivSena should answer how low are they willing to go for the sake of and greed of power?
If State Government is not going to take any action on this book, we will take strong steps to maintain dignity of our National heroes.
#CONgressInsultsSavarkar
Bandit jee, doing what he does best i.e. whitewashing Muslim atrocities on Hindus. Doing what his faith taught him .. playing victimhood card while being the aggressor. Amazing man!
but my familiarity was with it general usage as an exclamation. Perhaps time to retire it given its double meaning?
it means hai allah, period. no if and buts saar.
It is a "no amount of lipstick on a pig sort" of taqiya from dhimmi wiktionary.
that great bharat rathna tendulkar also uses this phrase.
Errr I don’t think so. It comes from “tuzya aaila” which literally translates to your mother as aai is Marathi for mother. The tuzya aaila phrase is a playground phrase to insult the opponent.
It is a "no amount of lipstick on a pig sort" of taqiya from dhimmi wiktionary.
that great bharat rathna tendulkar also uses this phrase.
Errr I don’t think so. It comes from “tuzya aaila” which literally translates to your mother as aai is Marathi for mother. The tuzya aaila phrase is a playground phrase to insult the opponent.
Quite correct. A variant (some say the origin) of the slang is 'Tujhya Aai cha Gho...' or 'Aai cha Gho' - 'Your Mother's Husband' or 'Mother's Husband'
This fellow was top level official of that government. What he was doing if there is no clarity on policy? He was part of the "We keep quite as our answers are well above the understanding of the unwashed and we are a great blessing on this nation of kaffirs" gang that included MMS.
By the way there was no corruption as per Zero loss Kapil. Was he wrong?
Congress leader Jairam Ramesh in Kochi: If you want to do something for global warming, become a vegetarian. Because I think the beef industry has been a huge culprit in global warming. #Kerala
After kujli and Tharoor, another closet sanghi ousted! It didn't take long for folks to realize. As it is stated in the scriptures, realization happens fastest in Kaliyuga. https://twitter.com/FHJakkappanavar/sta ... 0817042433 [Sickular]
F H Jakkappanavar @FHJakkappanavar
Will you please explain how beef industry is a huge culprit in Global warming? What is the difference between you & Manuvadi RSSBJP leaders who always repeat that cow urine is a medicine, cow dung is best food to prevent all diseases etc ?
this is a clear articulation of what Hindutwa is and what it is not and he spells it out in no uncertain terms.
the stupid poodle anchor is playing dumb by saying that there is no proselytization or religious aggression by the abrahamic faiths in the "21st century" and so why is Hindutwa required at all
"What is the need for Hindutva in this day & age of secularism"
Do journalists actually exist in an alternate universe or are they merely paid to do so
watch video
Shefali Vaidya. @ShefVaidya · 6h
This young MP will go far. Articulate, aware, well-read and absolutely clear in this thought.
Take a bow @Tejasvi_Surya
Congress leader Jairam Ramesh in Kochi: If you want to do something for global warming, become a vegetarian. Because I think the beef industry has been a huge culprit in global warming. #Kerala
After kujli and Tharoor, another closet sanghi ousted! It didn't take long for folks to realize. As it is stated in the scriptures, realization happens fastest in Kaliyuga.
Jairam Ramesh: I don't understand what Shaheen Bagh people are protesting about. Are they worried that their citizenship is going to be taken away from them? That's a legitimate fear. Then they should agitate against NPR, NRC. Why are they only agitating against CAA?