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https://swarajyamag.com/economy/how-ind ... ssue-at-un
How India Is Responding To Malaysia’s Reckless, Pro-Pakistan Remarks On The Kashmir Issue At UN
by M R Subramani

Oct 16, 2019
India buys more palm oil from Malaysia than China and Pakistan put together.
Malaysia’s reckless, pro-Pakistan statement on Kashmir is costing the country dear.
On 4 October this year, the Ministry of External Affairs came out with a strong statement against Malaysia and Turkey for their comments against India at the United Nations General Assembly on the Kashmir issue.
The ministry spokesman Raveesh Kumar was reacting to both countries criticising New Delhi over the abrogation of Article 370 in Jammu and Kashmir, ending the special status to the border state. Kumar had two messages for both the nations. One, they should obtain a clear understanding of the situation. Two, the Malaysian government should bear in mind its friendly relations with India and desist from making such statements.
Probably, the Food Ministry has followed it up by proposing to raise the integrated goods and services taxes (IGST) to 12 per cent on imports of refined palm oil. The External Affairs Ministry’s statement has hit the Malaysian palm oil market badly as crude palm prices have dropped to the lowest since 3 October to $518 a tonne.
In particular, India’s statement reminding Malaysia of the friendly ties between both countries has affected the palm oil market badly.
Some palm oil importers and refiners in India have taken this as a signal that the Narendra Modi government could further retaliate with trade measures, probably leading to a mini-trade war. These importers and refiners have decided to stop signing any new purchase contract with Malaysian sellers from 1 November. According to Solvent Extractors Association of India, importers had cut down purchases from Kuala Lumpur in September itself when Malaysia criticised India on the Kashmir issue. Crude palm oil prices had ruled at $551 a tonne then.
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https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/economic ... m-oil-amid
Disgruntled India weighs options on ties and palm oil amid #BoycottMalaysia campaign
The diplomatic fallout from Malaysia’s criticism over Kashmir is spreading to the economy as Indian businesses shun their palm oil suppliers in favour of Indonesian alternatives
With nationalists waging a social media campaign to boycott Malaysian imports, expectations are high that New Delhi will impose curbs or taxes

Vasudevan Sridharan, Tashny Sukumaran
18 Oct, 2019
Traders in India are avoiding Malaysian palm oil imports in favour of purchases from Indonesia amid growing fears that New Delhi is weighing retaliation against the Southeast Asian nation for its criticism over Kashmir and sheltering of wanted Islamic preacher Zakir Naik.
At least three importers said the uncertainty in bilateral relations had forced them to consider alternatives, while a government source who handles India’s trade ties with Southeast Asia struck a note of caution despite saying there was no official word on import curbs yet.
“Anything can happen. Maybe some restrictions will be imposed,” said the source, who did not want to be named as he was not authorised to speak on the matter.
B.V. Mehta, executive director of lobbying group the Solvent Extractors’ Association of India, which represents more than 875 businesses with a combined oil processing capacity of 30 million tonnes, said the Indian government was deeply upset with what officials saw as hostile comments from the Malaysians and would take action in response, “but what type of action is still not clear”.
“Just to safeguard business interests, most refiners and importers have moved from [buying from] Malaysia to Indonesia. After all, the price of palm oil from Indonesia is the same,” he said.
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"How to shoot yourself in the foot and then put that foot in your mouth" by Muhammad Mahathir
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https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Kashmi ... -oil-trade
Indian anger at Malaysia's Kashmir stance threatens palm oil trade
Mahathir's 'unprovoked' and 'unacceptable' remarks prompt talk of boycott

KIRAN SHARMA, Nikkei staff writer, OCTOBER 26, 2019
NEW DELHI -- India has blasted Malaysia and Turkey for openly supporting its archrival Pakistan on the issue of Kashmir, a Muslim-majority region whose special status was scrapped in August by the government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
Amid reports that New Delhi is contemplating trade curbs against the two countries, an influential trade group in India asked its members recently to refrain from importing Malaysian palm oil, in their own interest and as a mark of solidarity with the government.
"The recent developments pertaining to strained relations between our nation and Malaysia have put a lot of responsibility on our industry in view of [the] huge imports of palm oil from that country," said Atul Chaturvedi, president of the Solvent Extractors' Association of India, in an advisory to members.
"Our government has not taken kindly to the unprovoked pronouncements by the Malaysian prime minister, and [it] is contemplating some retaliatory action. It would be [fitting], as a responsible Indian vegetable oil industry, [to] avoid purchasing palm oil from Malaysia till such time as clarity on the way forward emerges from the Indian government," Chaturvedi said.
The association, with 875 members, can process up to 30 million tons of oil seed annually. India is the world's largest buyer of vegetable oils, importing about 9.5 million tons of palm oil per year: 6.5 million tons from Indonesia and 3 million tons from Malaysia.
Elaborating on the advisory, the association's executive director, B.V. Mehta, told the Nikkei Asian Review that it was issued because the trade group feared India may take retaliatory action in the wake of the current tensions with Malaysia that could affect the import of palm oil from the Southeast Asian country.
"We told [our members] to be careful," he said. "If they are buying palm oil from Malaysia, there could be some trouble at a later date [if] the government of India changes its policy." Raveesh Kumar, a spokesman for India's Foreign Ministry, told a media briefing on Thursday that he was not aware of any government decision on retaliation. "In any case," Kumar said, "I think it is important to understand that the decision to import any commodity or otherwise is the prerogative of the importing company. But at the same time, they are not impervious to the state of affairs between any two countries."
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Leaked phone call between former Malaysian PM Najib Razak pleading with Abu Dhabi’s crown prince Mohammed bin Zayed to help him and his stepson escape prosecution in a multi-billion dollar scandal.

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In a first India is restricting semiconductor imports from Malaysia and setting standards and regulations for imports, interesting, this could actually be a template for future restrictions on Chinese imports
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kit wrote:In a first India is restricting semiconductor imports from Malaysia and setting standards and regulations for imports, interesting, this could actually be a template for future restrictions on Chinese imports
There goes another billion out of Malaysian pocket. Soon indisciplined Mahatir gonna lose 1% if Gdp.
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kit wrote:In a first India is restricting semiconductor imports from Malaysia and setting standards and regulations for imports, interesting, this could actually be a template for future restrictions on Chinese imports
Any links?
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mappunni wrote:
kit wrote:In a first India is restricting semiconductor imports from Malaysia and setting standards and regulations for imports, interesting, this could actually be a template for future restrictions on Chinese imports
Any links?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 270373.cms
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Interestingly Mahathir has gone on record saying he wont speak against China and also its hegemonistic behaviour in South China sea.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/17605 ... ting-china

Malaysia does not want to take a confrontational stance toward China over the disputed South China Sea or alleged mistreatment of minority Uighur Muslims, Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said in an interview published on Saturday.

Malaysia is too small to face up to the Asian powerhouse, even though Chinese ships surveying its waters for oil and gas in South China Sea do so without permission, he told an online news service during his visit to New York where he addressed the UN General Assembly.

“We watch what they are doing, we report what they are doing, but we do not chase them away or try to be aggressive,” Mahathir told BenarNews, an online news service affiliated with Radio Free Asia that reports in five languages.

“The Malay states have existed near China for the past 2,000 years. We have survived because we know how to conduct ourselves. We don’t go around trying to be aggressive when we don’t have the capacity, so we use other means.”

He said that in the past Malaysia used to send to China “gold and silver flowers every year as a symbol of our being practically, well, subservient to them”.

Mahathir also said China’s might was the reason Muslim-majority Malaysia did not speak out much against Beijing’s alleged repression of Uighur Muslims.

“You don’t just try and do something which would fail anyway, so it is better to find some other less violent ways not to antagonise China too much, because China is beneficial for us,” he said.


So the bugger seems to think he can talk and do whatever he wants against India.


Might rules and is respected.


Interestingly Mahathirs great grandparents come from South India and has some connections even now in Kerala and TN
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kit wrote:Interestingly Mahathirs great grandparents come from South India and has some connections even now in Kerala and TN
Actually, his Grandfather was from Kerala (Mopilah) who went to Malaysia and married a Malay and became one. The Tamil Muslims, when go to Malaysia adopt the Malaysian language and customs. They are called Mamak by the locals.

Remember my father telling about Malaysia in the 70s and even 80s where few and far women wore the hijab. Now due to the Islamist pandering by Mahathir to gain the Malay votes is slowly but surely turning Malaysia into an Islamist hellhole.

The Malays govern on the basis of Ketuanan Melayu or Malay supremacy. Look at where Malaysia is, compared to Singapore.
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‘We’re too small to take action’: Malaysian PM Mahathir after India’s palm oil boycott

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... sZwNJ.html
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Rony wrote:‘We’re too small to take action’: Malaysian PM Mahathir after India’s palm oil boycott

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... sZwNJ.html

This is just the beginning.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1534442/india ... -oil-trade
India's curbs on Malaysian palm imports stir up edible oil trade
Reuters | Dawn, February 14.

India's halt on Malaysian palm oil imports has disrupted global edible oil trade flows, with Indonesia diverting supplies to feed India, Malaysia rushing to tap markets left behind by Jakarta, and India substituting palm with other oils.
India, the top global palm oil buyer, imposed restrictions on imports of refined palm oil last month, a move sources said was retaliation against Malaysia's criticism of New Delhi's actions in occupied Kashmir and a controversial citizenship law. Traders had also held off buying crude palm oil from Malaysia.
Malaysia's latest palm export data revealed the impact of India's restrictions, with shipments to India in January falling 85 per cent from a year earlier to 46,876 tonnes, the lowest since 2011.
India accounted for nearly a quarter of Malaysia's total palm oil exports last year and has been the biggest buyer of Malaysian palm oil for five years.
To compensate, Malaysia dialled up shipments to other destinations, with exports to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Ghana — markets that have traditionally bought heavily from Indonesia — all increasing in January by more than 100pc from the same month in 2019.
"A rebalancing is happening in the palm oil market," said a Mumbai-based dealer with a global trading firm.
"European and price-sensitive Asian buyers are switching to Malaysia from Indonesia due to lower prices."
Indonesian prices have climbed to a rare premium to Malaysian levels this year, on expectations of higher Indian purchases.
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More bad news for Senile Fart of Malaysia :(( :(( :((

Exclusive: Machine lubricants leave bad taste for palm oil producers, buyers

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN20C1KP
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Mahathir is history now.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/asia/mal ... index.html
Malaysia's Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad resigns
By Helen Regan and Ushar Daniele, CNN, February 24, 2020

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad submitted his resignation to the country's king on Monday, his office announced, a shock move that could plunge the country into political crisis.
The surprise announcement comes amid speculation that 94-year-old Mahathir was attempting to form a new ruling coalition that would exclude his promised successor Anwar Ibrahim. It is not clear who will be the next Prime Minister or whether general elections will be held. Mahathir's party, the Malaysian United Indigenous Party (Bersatu) announced Monday it would be dropping out of the ruling coalition Pakatan Harapan in support of the prime minister.
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Venkarl wrote:Mahathir is history now.
No Saar, too early to write of the wily fox who outwitted Anwar Ibrahim now thrice to the PM post!
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Venkarl wrote:Mahathir is history now.
No, he is just scheming to renege on a deal in which he was supposed to hand over power, in an attempt to keep it via a new coalition.
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Bart S wrote:
Venkarl wrote:Mahathir is history now.
No, he is just scheming to renege on a deal in which he was supposed to hand over power, in an attempt to keep it via a new coalition.
Exactly!! He is making a come back with new coalition! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Mahatir will do anything for power.
According to reports, the proposed new government includes Mahathir's party, the United Malays National Organisation - the party of scandal-tainted ex-leader Najib Razak, which was ousted at the 2018 polls - and a hardline Islamist group.
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Vips wrote:Mahatir will do anything for power.
According to reports, the proposed new government includes Mahathir's party, the United Malays National Organisation - the party of scandal-tainted ex-leader Najib Razak, which was ousted at the 2018 polls - and a hardline Islamist group.
Senile Fart turned once liberal Malays in hardcore Islamist for just to cling on to power. He capitalized on the Asian Tiger status in the 80s and 90s but Soros had the last laugh with the currency crisis. His family and his cronies have swindled billions.
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/26/ma ... -politics/
Malaysia’s Geriatric Palace Intrigues Are Causing Political Turmoil
94-year-old Mahathir Mohamad has betrayed his 72-year-old successor Anwar Ibrahim. Again.
BY KRITHIKA VARAGUR | FEBRUARY 26, 2020.

Anwar Ibrahim may be the most outmaneuvered man in Malaysia. The trials of his political life have been Job-like, from multiple sodomy accusations to police assaults to nearly a decade spent in jail. In 2018 he seemed, momentarily, to have been rewarded for his forbearance, when his party coalition with former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad won a surprise election victory, overturning the National Front that had ruled Malaysia since its independence from Britain in 1957. Anwar “won” from jail, through a baroque setup by which he was supposed to eventually succeed the then 92-year-old Mahathir after two years, in a transition whose specifics were never explained. But he would eventually get his day in the sun … right? Wrong. After a series of hushed, closed-door meetings, backdoor plots, and obtuse power plays over the past five days, the Malaysian government is now in chaos, and it seems like Anwar may let power slip through his fingers again. Mahathir resigned as prime minister at 1 p.m. on Monday, as well as from his leadership of the Bersatu political party. Meanwhile, Bersatu, which accounts for 26 seats in the lower house of Parliament, announced that it was exiting the Alliance of Hope (Pakatan Harapan) coalition that won in 2018, depriving it of its parliamentary majority and essentially dissolving the government. The same day, 11 members of Anwar’s party resigned. The clock is ticking for a new ruling coalition to emerge soon. The suddenness and rapid succession of these events have the dramatic flair of late-season scripted television.
“This is a very typical Malaysian way of doing politics,” said James Chin, a political scientist at the University of Tasmania. “They are trying to create a herd mentality so people can start rushing to the presumed forerunner.” Anwar’s People’s Justice Party was the largest component of the Alliance of Hope, having won 47 seats in the 2018 general election. A new coalition needs 112 members of Parliament to form a government, said Chin, but “to prove stability they will need at least 130 people.” On top of that, Malaysia is a constitutional monarchy, and the king must greenlight a new government. The current king, Sultan Abdullah Sultan Ahmad Shah, interviewed every single member of Parliament on Tuesday and Wednesday in order to establish which faction has the majority support, according to the Associated Press. The king also appointed Mahathir as interim prime minister.
On Wednesday, Mahathir delivered a national address and apologized for the recent “political turmoil,” which seemed, at surface level, like an effort to distance himself from the week’s machinations. “If it is possible I will try to establish a government that does not favor any party. Only the interests of the nation will take precedence,” he told the country. “He is speaking in code,” said Chin. “He is saying: Everyone can come together, but I get to pick and choose who gets to come in. And he is addressing the other MPs as individuals, not as parties. He remains the kingmaker.”
The choice before members of Parliament is essentially whether to back Anwar or Mahathir now, and one of them has been prime minister for a cumulative 24 years, whereas the other has been spectacularly foiled at multiple junctures during that time frame. “The choice,” said Chin, “is not exactly difficult.”
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^^ Such a familiar desi feel reading this article
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Malaysia's Mahathir says he has support to return as PM.

Paki lover thought he can do what he wants and lord over Malaysia but ....

Malaysia's king appoints Muhyiddin Yassin as prime minister.
Malaysia's king named former interior minister Muhyiddin Yassin as the new prime minister on Saturday in a shock decision that sidelined old rivals Mahathir Mohamad and Anwar Ibrahim after a week of political turmoil.
Mahatir now asking Imran's shuttle(cock) wife to talk to the jinns on the wall and make him the prime minister :rotfl:
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Speaker rejects Mahathir's call as Malaysia's turmoil grows.
The speaker of Malaysia's House rejected interim leader Mahathir Mohamad's call for a vote next week to chose a new premier, deepening the country's political turmoil after the ruling alliance collapsed this week.

Mahathir said on Thursday that King Sultan Abdullah Sultan Ahmad Shah failed to find a candidate with majority support and will leave it to the lower house to vote. If there is an impasse, Mahathir said snap elections will be called.

But House speaker Mohamad Ariff Mohamad Yusof said a vote could only follow an official decree by the king and Mahathir's call for Parliament to meet didn't follow proper procedure. As such, there will be no special sitting of the lower house on Monday, Mohamad Ariff said in a statement.

His stand echoes that of the former ruling alliance, now led by Mahathir's rival Anwar Ibrahim, and other political parties that only the king has the power to appoint the prime minister under the constitution. They also said Mahathir had jumped the gun ahead of an official announcement from the palace and the Conference of Rulers meeting. :lol:
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mappunni wrote:
Venkarl wrote:Mahathir is history now.
No Saar, too early to write of the wily fox who outwitted Anwar Ibrahim now thrice to the PM post!

Feb 29, 2020


Malaysia’s king names Muhyiddin Yassin as prime minister; ex-interior minister gets top post after week of political turmoil


malayasia is probably hoping to get back into India's good graces by sidelining both mahathir and anwar

anwar is the bugger and mahatir is buggered.

That's malayasian politics for you.
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Subhanalla! Jazakulla! Shall we call it -- Palm Oil Regime Change? The virus thing is making things worse for palm oil exporters. Desi bania can now import from Malays for cheap.

Palm oil heads for worst week in 11 years on demand destruction

Slimy Mahathir won't let go easily
Malaysia's Mahathir seeks urgent parliament session on PM
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... a-comeback
Fresh Out of Power, 94-Year-Old Mahathir Plots Malaysia Comeback
By Philip Heijmans, February 29, 2020.

Mahathir Mohamad may be at least temporarily out of power, but the 94-year-old leader isn’t going down without a fight.
Mahathir’s abrupt resignation last Monday kicked off a week of horse-trading that saw his fortunes rise and fall by the hour. On Saturday morning, he said he had the numbers to form a government, but by late afternoon the king appointed Muhyiddin Yassin– until recently Mahathir’s right-hand man – as prime minister.
Late Saturday night, Mahathir said he has secured the backing of 114 lawmakers -- enough for a majority in Malaysia’s 222-member parliament -- and will send a letter to tell the king. It remained unclear if the king would reconsider his decision. “I hope the King will accept the letter and my explanation,” Mahathir said in a statement. No matter how things shake out, it’s a safe bet Mahathir isn’t going anywhere. While he’s ruled Malaysia for nearly a quarter century over two stints, he was perhaps just as active politically when he was retired as he was inside the prime minister’s office -- including helping take down former Prime Minister Najib Razak in 2018.
“The game is not over yet,” said James Chin, a Malaysian academic and a political analyst who heads the Asia Institute at the University of Tasmania. “It’s too early to write him off. Mahathir being Mahathir, I doubt he would leave Muhyiddin and Najib with the last laugh.” Born in 1925 when the Malay Pensinsula was still ruled by Britain, Mahathir studied medicine and became a physician. He became politically active after Japan occupied what is now Malaysia during World War II, and became prime minister for the first time in 1981 at the age of 56 -- helming the long-ruling coalition anchored by the United Malays National Organisation, or UMNO. During his first 22 years in office, Mahathir worked hard to put Malaysia on the world map. He had an affinity for ambitious projects such as the world’s tallest office building, one of the world’s largest dams, and Southeast Asia’s largest airport.
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How the F*** does one have this enery to cling onto power at 94?

Seems to be outdoing gold standard desi politicos and making them look like novices
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chetak wrote:
mappunni wrote:
No Saar, too early to write of the wily fox who outwitted Anwar Ibrahim now thrice to the PM post!

Feb 29, 2020


Malaysia’s king names Muhyiddin Yassin as prime minister; ex-interior minister gets top post after week of political turmoil


malayasia is probably hoping to get back into India's good graces by sidelining both mahathir and anwar

anwar is the bugger and mahatir is buggered.

That's malayasian politics for you.
The only party getting buggered is Malaysia.

Also, the new coalition relies on an extremist Islamist party to make up the numbers, so don't count on the change being favorable to India at all. Actually I would take Mahathir over these folks, at least he announces his intentions quite openly (due to his being an arrogant loudmouth oaf who can't help it), thereby waking up GOI and baboons from their slumber. These folks are probably a lot more sly and will continue backing Pakistan while making conciliatory noises in public.
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In a way the reliance on hardline Islamic forces is bound to alienate a substantial (40% of the total) non islamic non malay population. This will screw up the economic growth. Ultimately not good for this paki lover nation and hence good for us.
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https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/st ... 2020-04-11
Fact Check: Image of Bangladeshi immigrants in Malaysia viral as plight of 'Hindus' in India
An image of scores of people sleeping, crammed on the floor, has gone viral on Facebook with the claim that these are not "Tablighis" but "poor Hindus" who are stranded in India due to the coronavirus lockdown, and both the Modi government and media are indifferent towards their plight.
Chayan Kundu, New Delhi, April 11, 2020

An image of scores of people sleeping, crammed on the floor, has gone viral on Facebook with the claim that these are not "Tablighis" but "poor Hindus" who are stranded in India due to the coronavirus lockdown, and both the Modi government and media are indifferent towards their plight.
The text superimposed on the image reads, "These Helpless People are not Tablighis, They are Poor Hindus Who are Stranded due to Lockdown .Has any TV Chanel discussed This." The Facebook post was shared along with the caption, "Our Media is busy in taking dictation from Modi!"
India Today Anti Fake News War Room (AFWA) has found the claim to be misleading. The image is more than four months old. This is an immigration centre in Malaysia, where illegal immigrants, mostly from Bangladesh, were waiting to return home.
The April 10 Facebook post was shared over 3,600 times till the filing of this story. The archived version can be seen here. Using reverse image search, we found that a couple of Bengali news websites dedicated to non-resident Bangladeshis had published this image along with a related story last year.
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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/ ... heir-visas
17 M’sians held in India for allegedly misusing their visas
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Friday, 17 Apr 2020

PETALING JAYA: Seventeen Malaysians who took part in a recent tabligh gathering in New Delhi have been detained in India for supposedly misusing their visas, says Deputy Foreign Minister Datuk Kamaruddin Jaafar (pic).
The Malaysians were detained under three Indian acts – the National Disaster Management act, the Foreigners Act 1946 and the Indian penal code, he said. “Wisma Putra is identifying the problem and getting the real story behind the issue, in particular from the Indian side.
“We take their welfare seriously and will ensure that they are doing fine, ” Kamaruddin said at a press conference yesterday that was streamed live on Facebook. He hoped that people would not politicise the issue or link it to religion, as this might cause misunderstandings in society and complicate their negotiations with India.
He added that 191 Malaysians who joined the tabligh gathering were being quarantined in hospitals or centres in the country.
He said the Malaysian consulate in New Delhi had given assistance to the Malaysians involved.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-blocks ... 46934.html
US also bans palm oil imports from malaysia now.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-55882489
Myanmar coup: Aung San Suu Kyi detained as military seizes control
Myanmar's military has taken control of the country after detaining de facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi and other politicians in the early hours.
Military TV said a state of emergency had been declared for one year and power transferred.
The coup comes after tensions rose between the civilian government and the military following a disputed election.
Myanmar, also known as Burma, was ruled by the military until democratic reforms began in 2011.
The military said on Monday it was handing power to commander-in-chief Min Aung Hlaing because of "election fraud". Soldiers are on the streets of the capital, Nay Pyi Taw, and the main city, Yangon.
Ms Suu Kyi's party National League for Democracy (NLD) has issued a statement on her behalf saying "I urge people not to accept this, to respond and wholeheartedly to protest against the coup by the military", reports Reuters news agency.
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Myanmar’s Leader, Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, Is Detained Amid Coup
Communications were suspended and flights disrupted as the military took power from an elected government and declared a one-year state of emergency.
By Hannah Beech, Jan. 31, 2021

BANGKOK — Myanmar’s military launched a coup on Monday, detaining the country’s civilian leader, Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, and her top lieutenants in early morning raids and seizing power from a government established only five years ago.
Officials from the National League for Democracy, Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi’s party, confirmed the detentions on Monday morning. Hours later, with politicians and activists alike racing to find out who had been detained, a military television network announced a one-year state of emergency with ultimate authority transferred to the army chief, Senior Gen. Min Aung Hlaing.
Mobile networks and the internet were down in major cities in Myanmar, and some local journalists went into hiding for fear that their reporting could compromise their safety. Domestic flights were suspended, and the main international airport in Yangon, the largest city in Myanmar, had been shuttered, according to residents.
Myanmar had been celebrated as a rare case in which generals willingly handed over some power to civilians, honoring 2015 election results that ushered into office the National League for Democracy.
The stalwarts of that party had spent years in jail for their political opposition to the military. Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi, the political party’s patron saint, spent 15 years under house arrest and won a Nobel Peace Prize in 1991 for her nonviolent resistance to the junta that locked her up.
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^^^
Fallout from this I wonder whether there will be a further pushing out of 'Rohingya's'
Regional impact if there is such an exodus??
CAA and the fallout from the usual suspect i.e., BIF's
Is this a plan from Chin + financiers of BIF's
Pappu will start and the chorus will be taken up by others!!
The trip to ?? Germany or Timbuctoo has anything to do with this???
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Rsatchi wrote:^^^
Fallout from this I wonder whether there will be a further pushing out of 'Rohingya's'
This appears purely a military move to counter an overwhelming victory by a political party with which it doesn't see eye-to-eye. The party which the military supported has simply been routed. The military would now ensure that in the next elections, whenever that takes place, its political party would get an upper hand, a la Musharraf's tactic with the King's Party more than a decade back.

As for Rohingyas, it is the military which has been at the forefront evicting them. But, even the earlier Aung San Suu Kyi's government ensured no voting took place in Rakhine state. I feel that even without pushing, the Rohingyas may see the writing on the wall and choose to migrate by themselves.
Regional impact if there is such an exodus??
Same as before. We have to be more careful.

As for international opprobrium, the Burmese military would care two hoots.

If Biden and his human-rights gangs take the pitch high, then the Chinese would begin to support the military junta. It was precisely for that reason that India decided to collaborate with Myanmar earlier as the Chinese influence became too much for Indian comfort and then the US was angry with us, which of course, we shrugged off. Remember the Obama address in the Indian Parliament where he almost castigated us for not toeing the US line on Myanmar?
Is this a plan from Chin
I don't think so though the Chinese wouldn't mind doing business with anyone. As Deng famously said, "How does it matter whether the cat is black or white so long as it catches the mice?"
The trip to ?? Germany or Timbuctoo has anything to do with this???
You are attributing too much to that gentleman.
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Interesting interview of Singaporean ex-diplomat Bilahari Kausikan (born to Indian father and Chinese mother) on Singapore, US-China rivalry, US-Taiwan, China and Xi, Chinese influence operations in Singapore etc

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gRTIcH ... 6cBZZ/view
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Rising India: A Welcome Partner for ASEAN?
In November 2022, in recognition of the 30th anniversary of ASEAN-India relations, ASEAN granted India the status of a comprehensive strategic partner at the ASEAN-India Commemorative Summit in Phnom Penh, Cambodia.

Southeast Asians may be beginning to view India as a welcome partner. This was suggested in the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute’s most recent survey of elite Southeast Asian public opinion, with India emerging as a surprise third choice for a “third party” partner for ASEAN, with the support of 11.3 percent of respondents, behind the European Union (42.9 percent) and Japan (26.6 percent). The survey also showed an increase in levels of trust in India in almost all of the ASEAN countries, with overall trust jumping from 16.6 percent in 2022 to 25.7 percent in 2023, with levels of distrust also dropping in tandem.
Both India and ASEAN are thus seemingly destined for closer relations moving forward. There are multiple areas through which India and Southeast Asia can promote further engagement, the least discussed of which is soft power. Certainly, as compared to other major players in the region such as the U.S. and Japan, India is in a rather unique position in fostering people-to-people links with ASEAN through an emphasis on its historical and civilizational links with the region.

A unique aspect of the India-ASEAN relationship is the long-standing civilizational ties that both parties have enjoyed. Besides China, no other major power within the Indo-Pacific had as much of a cultural impact on Southeast Asia as India. For some 2,000 years, Indian religion, literature, language, architecture, and art influenced Southeast Asian societies, blending in with local practices to create distinct cultures
The wider context for this is centuries of religious connections between India and Southeast Asia, with Hinduism and Buddhism transmitted from the former to the latter, leading to the construction of temples, stupas, and pagodas across the region. Representing a legacy of rich civilizational connections, the restoration of these temples has emerged one of the more public faces of Indian soft power in Southeast Asia.

India’s “temple diplomacy” started as early as 1992, when Indian archaeologists helped restore Angkor Wat and other Angkorian temples in Cambodia. Since then, the Indian government has also supported the restoration of the My Son temples in Vietnam, and Buddhist pagodas in Myanmar including the Ananda Temple in Bagan, the Wat Phou Temple Complex in Laos, and some parts of Preah Vihear temple in Cambodia. For Southeast Asian countries, the support of the Indian government in restoring important aspects of their national identities provides an opportunity for the citizens of both parties to buy into the common values and heritage that they both share.
something for the core base twitterati to highlight perhaps
However, there remain obstacles to fostering deeper relations between India and ASEAN. Among these are New Delhi’s continued aversion to economic openness. India’s exit from the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) mega-trade deal in November 2019 was a significant blow to proponents of regional economic integration. Exclusion from RCEP has locked India out of helping shape the trade architecture of the Asia-Pacific or integrating India into the ASEAN-led multilateral order within the region.
Restoring Ties by Restoring Monuments: Indian Diplomacy in Southeast Asia
dt. 02.21
“Connecting with history,” the spokesperson for the Indian Ministry of External Affairs tweeted in 2017, when Prime Minister Narendra Modi paid a visit to the Ananda Temple in Bagan, Myanmar. The more narrowly-defined context of the visit was that the temple had been restored thanks to the assistance of the Indian government. The wider context, however, is a history of centuries of cultural influence from Indian civilizations in Southeast Asia.
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