VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 03 Feb 2020 12:54

No mithai from Adm.Raks for the Akula. We're still waiting....
Beware of Bharat Rakshaks promising mithai!

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 11 Feb 2020 06:18

Such a beautiful airplane!

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 11 Feb 2020 06:31

More Rafale pics. Image credits in the pics themselves.

RB003 and RB002

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 11 Feb 2020 06:33

Image credits in the pics themselves.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 11 Feb 2020 06:35

Great video and pictures. Kudos - as always - to you Kartik for this.

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 11 Feb 2020 06:36

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 11 Feb 2020 06:37

Rakesh wrote:Great video and pictures. Kudos - as always - to you Kartik for this.

My pleasure Rakesh. Such a treat for the eyes, the Rafale is!

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 11 Feb 2020 06:39

image credits in the pics themselves.

RB007

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 11 Feb 2020 06:40

Beautiful golden Rafale in the fading sunlight. Image credit in the pic itself.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 11 Feb 2020 06:44

That has gotta be the first picture of RB007 that I have seen.

To date (thanks to you Kartik), I have seen RB001, 002, 003 and now 007. Waiting for pictures of BS009 to BS028.

Hopefully will see serial numbers beyond BS028 and RB008

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 12 Feb 2020 00:44

RB004, RB005 and RB006 pics are also posted. Please see the last 2-3 pages.

nash · Post by **nash** » 18 Feb 2020 11:42

X-post from MRCA thread:

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited back on Rafale Radar, talks on for making jets in India

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... aign=cppst

If additional orders are placed for Rafale — Chief of Defence Staff Gen Bipin Rawat hinted recently that 36 more fighter jets could be ordered within four years — a work share model could be worked out to manufacture parts for the fighter jet at HAL facilities.

IMO may be by next year they might ink the deal and then by 2024 they will deliver of next batch of Rafale.

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 21 Feb 2020 04:58

More Rafale pics. Image credits in the pics themselves.

RB001

RB004

RB006

Indranil · Post by **Indranil** » 21 Feb 2020 05:58

@JayS.

The canard position of the Rafale coming it to land is exactly what ADA is going after. You were right.

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 21 Feb 2020 12:22

Indranil wrote:@JayS.

The canard position of the Rafale coming it to land is exactly what ADA is going after. You were right.

I can't quite remember the reference now.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 25 Feb 2020 06:45

Dassault in talks to buy out Reliance stake in DRAL
http://www.sps-aviation.com/news/?id=86 ... ke-in-DRAL
19 Feb 2020

nash · Post by **nash** » 25 Feb 2020 15:33

Rakesh wrote:Dassault in talks to buy out Reliance stake in DRAL
http://www.sps-aviation.com/news/?id=86 ... ke-in-DRAL
19 Feb 2020

Chota bhai also filed for bankruptcy, this is going as predicted by one twitter handler.

srai · Post by **srai** » 26 Feb 2020 14:45

Rakesh wrote:Dassault in talks to buy out Reliance stake in DRAL
http://www.sps-aviation.com/news/?id=86 ... ke-in-DRAL
19 Feb 2020

True nature of this JV coming to light! Reliance, with 0 aerospace experience, was just used as an entry point into India by the French. At the same time Reliance and its owners lines their pockets.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 26 Feb 2020 14:57

srai wrote:
Rakesh wrote:Dassault in talks to buy out Reliance stake in DRAL
http://www.sps-aviation.com/news/?id=86 ... ke-in-DRAL
19 Feb 2020
True nature of this JV coming to light! Reliance, with 0 aerospace experience, was just used as an entry point into India by the French. At the same time Reliance and its owners lines their pockets.

You are forgetting 1 major point- Relience owned the land from days before 2014- something post land acquisition laws- Dassault would have struggled with. How did he acquire the land in which period nobody wants to go through.

JTull · Post by **JTull** » 28 Feb 2020 04:17

Dassault is trying to shift Reliance stake in the joint venture to GOI/HAL. There is really no realistic chance of it winning the 114 aircraft order without them as partners.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 08 Mar 2020 23:23

https://twitter.com/Amitraaz/status/123 ... 56192?s=20 ---> The first four Rafale fighter jets are arriving in India by the last week of May, following which an aircraft will arrive every 45 days.

First four Rafale jets to arrive by May end: Rajnath Singh
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 528589.cms
07 March 2020

dineshchaturvedi · Post by **dineshchaturvedi** » 09 Mar 2020 02:18

nash wrote:X-post from MRCA thread:

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited back on Rafale Radar, talks on for making jets in India

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... aign=cppst

If additional orders are placed for Rafale — Chief of Defence Staff Gen Bipin Rawat hinted recently that 36 more fighter jets could be ordered within four years — a work share model could be worked out to manufacture parts for the fighter jet at HAL facilities.

IMO may be by next year they might ink the deal and then by 2024 they will deliver of next batch of Rafale.

Will these be F3R standard or new F4 standard?

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 09 Mar 2020 03:21

Too early to determine that. The plan is for F4 to achieve FOC only in 2024. IOC is planned for 2022.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 09 Mar 2020 21:00

Not that there is any money for 57 carrier borne fighters, but the Rafale M is one of the contestants in the naval contest and interoperability is the buzzword between India and US.

Ike and Charles de Gaulle Participate in Cross-Deck Aircraft Launches and Recoveries
https://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=112272
03 March 2020

"The exchange of traps and catapults of a French Rafale on Ike and a U.S. Super Hornet on CDG [Charles de Gaulle] not only displayed the versatility of each country's naval air power, but was a striking visual of comradery in arms of two great powers at sea," said Capt. Trevor Estes, commander Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 3. "The Battle Axe team was honored to execute the first trap by a Rhino aboard the CDG and more importantly, extend even further an already strong allied relationship through inter-operations in the skies over the Mediterranean."

"The dual-carrier operation represents a high-end interoperability showcase for our two navies," said Rear Adm. Marc Aussedat, commander, Task Force 473. "It is a concrete way to enhance our know-how to operate together, amongst which a swift ability to plug, to share tactical information, to catch and catapult aircraft indifferently on either aircraft carrier and to couple our fighting spirits in a complex maritime environment for a wide range of actions alongside."

“Operating with Charles de Gaulle in the Mediterranean is a fantastic representation of the inter-connectedness between France and the United States,” said Capt. Kyle Higgins, Ike’s commanding officer. “It was truly an honor working together to facilitate the launching and recovering of our nation’s aircraft on our respective carriers, showcasing the similarities between our two sea-faring nations.”

ranjan.rao · Post by **ranjan.rao** » 10 Mar 2020 17:41

it could be the other way round admiral ...that khan is keen to show shornet/rhino can work where rafale M could.... at a cheaper rates...i think khan wants to go for killing this time around...
for us we should focus on our daal bati choorma of NLCA and TEBDBF (abracadabra...) ..we are not taking our fighters to taiwan ..best to wait and build our own...for papis Mig 29, NLCA and Su 30 based combination (refueller over arabian sea) should be more enough to deter any threat and conduct any operations...if we have money to spare, that should go to versions of kaveri or on UAV/UCAV programs rather than buying hermes bags..when our simple jhola could do

gpurewal · Post by **gpurewal** » 10 Mar 2020 22:48

I was watching a doc on the 2018 CDG midlife refit, and they talked about the carrier becoming a 100% Rafale operation. One thing that stuck out to me was that the Rafale-M does not have folding wings, thereby taking up more hanger space. I think this will have an impact on the decision for the future naval jets. Any thoughts on this?

V_Raman · Post by **V_Raman** » 14 Mar 2020 10:14

This is a dumb question - is Rafale a 2-pilot aircraft or single pilot?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 14 Mar 2020 13:04

Some are 2 Pilot to act as Typre trainers while the Rest are single Pilot,

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 15 Mar 2020 02:43

V_Raman wrote:This is a dumb question - is Rafale a 2-pilot aircraft or single pilot?

Please watch this video from 1:11 onwards. It will answer your question...

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 15 Mar 2020 02:45

Rafale C - Single Seat Variant

Rafale B - Twin Seater Variant

Khalsa · Post by **Khalsa** » 16 Mar 2020 09:48

Rakesh wrote:
V_Raman wrote:This is a dumb question - is Rafale a 2-pilot aircraft or single pilot?
Please watch this video from 1:11 onwards. It will answer your question...

Oh my God
You cannot win with this. How can you?
What dumbness !!!

V_Raman · Post by **V_Raman** » 17 Mar 2020 05:45

Rakesh wrote:
V_Raman wrote:This is a dumb question - is Rafale a 2-pilot aircraft or single pilot?
Please watch this video from 1:11 onwards. It will answer your question...

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 17 Mar 2020 17:40

The actual scary thing is that they are deliberately playing to their captive audiences and each one of that audience has the same vote as an aeronautical engineer.

kit · Post by **kit** » 17 Mar 2020 22:20

Rakesh wrote:
V_Raman wrote:This is a dumb question - is Rafale a 2-pilot aircraft or single pilot?
Please watch this video from 1:11 onwards. It will answer your question...

who is that dumba$$ ? is he on twitter

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 17 Mar 2020 22:25

kit wrote:
Rakesh wrote: Please watch this video from 1:11 onwards. It will answer your question...
who is that dumba$$ ? is he on twitter

Akhilesh yadav iirc. To think that his dad was India's defence minister during the UPI term

kit · Post by **kit** » 17 Mar 2020 22:31

Cain Marko wrote:
kit wrote: who is that dumba$$ ? is he on twitter
Akhilesh yadav iirc. To think that his dad was India's defence minister during the UPI term

"He was schooled at the Military School in Dholpur, Rajasthan, then obtained his Bachelor's and master's degrees in Civil Environmental Engineering at JSS Science and Technology University. He also has a master's degree in environmental engineering from the University of Sydney, Australia"..wiki

the a$$h@le knows what he is doing

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 17 Mar 2020 23:30

Correct.

And there was a very interesting article, posted in these forums, about how his dad didn't allow the coalition government of the day to scuttle the deal (and get it renegotiated) of the Su 30 MKIs by trying to bring in the bogey of corruption. And how ABV, George Fernandes etc were instrumental in back channel talks with him during that time.

LakshmanPST · Post by **LakshmanPST** » 18 Mar 2020 06:42

A doubt...
Will the latest CoronaVirus pandemic that took over Europe, including France, effect the delivery schedule of the Rafale...?

shaun · Post by **shaun** » 18 Mar 2020 08:40

Manish_P wrote:Correct.

And there was a very interesting article, posted in these forums, about how his dad didn't allow the coalition government of the day to scuttle the deal (and get it renegotiated) of the Su 30 MKIs by trying to bring in the bogey of corruption. And how ABV, George Fernandes etc were instrumental in back channel talks with him during that time.

His dad is saner , went to APJ during newclear deal for advice and supported MMS

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 18 Mar 2020 09:42

Photo of the first single seat Rafale is out!!

Serials numbers of single seaters start with BS...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9282tilg7D ... 3bcziera5b