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Larry Walker wrote:So what we are heading towards is a scenario where we got to keep the barbarians inside the gates of their ghettos ?? Because coexisting with them would require that we teach violence to our kids and be ready to raise arms any time ?? How can we live in a civilised society where not each one of us needs to be armed and reply with violence ??
How? I suppose, as a human, you adapt yourself to what life brings you and navigate the shoals.
The entire Muslims-Hindu relationship in India is predicated on a very sensible Muslim perception that Hindus are physical cowards, risk-averse, confrontation-fearing, and their so-called theological openness is only making a virtue out of not having a singular driving focus on Allah. I bet even a Muslim child will be able to articulate this with clarity.
All you, as a Hindu, can do is try and adjust the reality about yourself, and do it consistently enough, so that the Muslim will have to either adjust his perception, or reap the consequences of delusion.
Of you can confirm and reinforce the perception, of course.
No law abiding Indian citizen can oppose Hindutva for it was approved by Supreme Court as the very content, value system of Bharat. Meaning of 'Hind' in the slogan Jai Hind raised by National leaders including Pt Nehru was Hindutva and nothing else : Justice KT Thomas.
Larry Walker wrote:So what we are heading towards is a scenario where we got to keep the barbarians inside the gates of their ghettos ?? Because coexisting with them would require that we teach violence to our kids and be ready to raise arms any time ?? How can we live in a civilised society where not each one of us needs to be armed and reply with violence ??
So by your logic Bhagwan Ram was uncivilized as he was armed most of the time.
Have you read about our other heroes? Do you know Dharma requires emphasis on both shaastra and shastra(weapons). As far as using violence is concerned, we are completely justified in using violence to vanquish adharm completely. This was the essence of Gita as told by Bhagwan Krishn to Arjun on the battlefield of Kurukshetra. Wasn't it? The so called "being civilized" in today's world is mostly a modern superposition of western christian values on the followers of Hindu Dharma meant to blunt our edge. Values that are extremely shallow and eventually detrimental to the society which adopts them.
some more pics of our warriors. Look how comfortable they were with weapons.
They all look pretty civilized to me. So it is really upto you what kind of "civilized" you really want to be.
Bjp can very well now say why he was sitting on his file for 2 years.
What was he doing for 2 years. Just because he is on backfoot due to riots he announced this decision.
Also when he accuses he has no rights of Police , how come then he came in way of Delhi police functioning.
Why he didnt ask police force on first day of riots.
Notices Issued To 4000 Muslims In Aligarh Coupled With Warning That Action Will Be Taken Against Them If There Was Any Trouble In UP On Friday 2000 Anti-Social Elements/100 Arms License Holders/200 Ppl With Criminal Background Also Warned
The SIT is probing a “larger conspiracy”. Recoveries like improvised hand grenades tied with rope and “bottle bomb launchers” which resemble a big-size slingshot tied to trees or fences to make it look like swings -- could not have been made overnight!
PBNS Breaking: Police complaints filed against The Wall Street Journal @WSJ with @DelhiPolice & Maharashtra Police for "defaming particular religion & spreading communal tension" with respect to alleged misreporting on #DelhiViolence & murder of IB official Ankit Sharma.[/quote]
@WSJ had quoted Ankit's brother Ankur as having said that Ankit was killed by amob chanting 'Jai Shri Ram'.
#DelhiViolence
In conversation with PBNS, Ankur Sharma, Brother of killed IB official discredited @WSJ report, "I never gave such a statement to Wall Street Journal. This is a ploy to defame my brother and my family. Wall Street Journal is lying."
#DelhiViolence
Notices Issued To 4000 Muslims In Aligarh Coupled With Warning That Action Will Be Taken Against Them If There Was Any Trouble In UP On Friday 2000 Anti-Social Elements/100 Arms License Holders/200 Ppl With Criminal Background Also Warned
If this news is true, this guy has more gonads than most of the rest of the BJP combined. Hope he stays that way. UP needs this sort of firm hand on the wheel. And I hope the public reelect him for what he is doing, as versus being graceless and caste obsessed. UP needs at least a decade of firm, peaceful growth.
The full post above is even worse. He says one of his staff's body was recovered. It had all limbs amputated and the man was burnt. This is what "mobs" did to an innocent worker who was left behind in that factory above.
Anyone who can't see the parallel between what the mobs did above, or in Ankit Sharma's case and what happened to Lt Saurav Kalia and his men, is living in la-la land.
kit wrote:I have a feeling that the primary motivators behind the clashes are not religion based rather anti national element s funded by certain foreign NGOs ( not the types inv in charity works ), misinformation and money seems to have a huge effect, also prodding the fence sitters by pseudo religious killings by trained killers or motivators ( read criminals killing for money, a favourite tactic by politicians to put blame on a certain community) and this could spur in the hat wearers to violence.
Spot on. Most people are focusing on the pawns and puppets rather than the puppeteers.
Sorry but now I disagree. There is an evil which has grown to massive proportions and it needs to be addressed. The pawns and puppets by themselves are immensely powerful and too dangerous on their own, even without direction.
all hot gas. Evidences emerging indicate huge damage to property & lives of Hindus many of whom are missing, unreported. For example, girl's blood stained undergarments recovered from Tahir Hussain house point to rape and more. But no complainant coming forward.
To my fellow brothers following the path of dharma, the worst is yet to come. So harden your hearts and steel your spine. Don't get disheartened by every or any incident. Make no mistake this is going to be a long and brutal war. Those with better staying power and intense will to win will prevail in the end. Keep your focus on the end game.
Tearful manager/owner Pankaj Sharma whose school was burnt down says Muslim women came in afternoon & took away their kids saying "बलवा होने वाला है" । Moments after they took their kids away, mob came & did the needful. Ninja technique of self defense
darshhan wrote:To my fellow brothers following the path of dharma, the worst is yet to come. So harden your hearts and steel your spine. Don't get disheartened by every or any incident. Make no mistake this is going to be a long and brutal war. Those with better staying power and intense will to win will prevail in the end. Keep your focus on the end game.
The end game is not clear to me.. is it still “sabka saath sabka vikas” ? If we don’t learn from events like these, we stand to lose far more in long run..
West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee in Bhubaneshwar: What happened in Delhi is very upsetting. It should not have happened. Police personnel and an IB officer lost their lives along with several people. The victims' families should be given help and peace should return.
ANI @ANI
West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee on opposition's demand of Home Minister Amit Shah's resignation in the wake of violence in Northeast Delhi: Right now, the problem should be solved, political discussions can take place later.
Tearful manager/owner Pankaj Sharma whose school was burnt down says Muslim women came in afternoon & took away their kids saying "बलवा होने वाला है" । Moments after they took their kids away, mob came & did the needful. Ninja technique of self defense
Islamists marked their shops with "NO CAA, NO NRC" graffiti in advance. These shops were not targeted by arsonists while next adjoining shops of Hindus were put to fire. This ground report is by Capital TV, hence @RanaAyyub is busy defaming it preemptively.
Tearful manager/owner Pankaj Sharma whose school was burnt down says Muslim women came in afternoon & took away their kids saying "बलवा होने वाला है" । Moments after they took their kids away, mob came & did the needful. Ninja technique of self defense
They spared the school of a peaceful that was next door to the pankaj sharma's school. This riot was a pre planned with an intent to not just kill Hindus but to destroy hindus economically also.
Am sorry, this may sound harsh, but who overwhelmingly voted and empowered peacefuls by supporting AAP & the "secular ecosystem" driven by greed for FREE electricity, FREE water, short term trinkets ? AAP won overwhelmingly the H vote due to their subsidy politics while M vote was won by Polarization.
Also calls to empower/train entire Hindu community militarily are not appropriate.. A better way would be to confine this training to those who choose to live among the wolves in M dominated areas.. there is a reason why only a section of society was called Kshatriyas, as that kind of violence does damage a person's ability to perceive sensitive aspects of life.. one of the greatest strengths of Hindu Dharma has been its spiritual traditions and their ability to bring inner peace.
I think Hindus should think more carefully and learn something from IB officer Ankit Sharma's murder.. it happened at an AAP corporator's house.. why there, why not any another place that would not leave any trace ? looks like the killers didn't even bother wearing masks which led them to be identified. The reason why they chose to kill him there and so brazenly is because they are confident that regardless of what they do - even perform a SALO-like torture routine on any Kaffir or Kaffir-child they want, there is a Kejruddin in power who always got their back.. if not Kejruddin, there is a battery of luminaries - Rahul, Sonia, Commies, Media, legal framework/support provided by the leftist cabal & radical activist judges. Modi or no Modi, it becomes obvious that they have a free reign in the country with no accountability for even the worst of criminal actions of their kind.
Also disagree with some folks on Twitter claiming that there is an ISIS role in these riots.. The seeds of these cruel murders of Hindus in Delhi were sown by the actions of Indian "secular" politicians who tacitly encourage the most barbaric of crimes perpetrated against Hindus by providing monetary support to the perpetrators of those crimes.. for eg: Kejriwal giving a govt job to the Juvenile rapist of Nirbahaya who actually inserted the metal rod in her private parts and yanked out her intestines as he was a peaceful, Secular establishment fighting tooth and nail for "human rights" of terrorists, giving compensation to anti-CAA rioters, JNU/Jamia radicals.. When there is a segment of society that continues to absolve monstrous crimes, why be surprised when they just spill out of their containment zone and infest broader segments of society ? And to top it off, those who do such actions are continually rewarded by the gullible public with political power repeatedly..
Also, the Paki angle - looks like they wanted & organized this Pulwama redux.. the first one was aimed to emasculate Modi and his 56" right before LS polls, clearly backfired due to the strong retribution at Balakot.. this one seems to be planned to emasculate Shah post his recent successes during a high profile visit, dent his strong-man image and as an imminent Modi-successor.. the fact that NSA Doval had to step in to control situation, also makes Shah look bad. He needs to counter with a Balakot redux and be seen as directing this from the front, like Modi did post-Pulwama.
Rishi_Tri wrote:Hindus suffered but retaliation was massive. And the pigs squeeled.
Areas of North East Delhi are infested by illegal Bangladeshi Muslims. Some have assumed Hindu names but ask one or two questions and you find out.
As to being prepared - should anyone be surprised? Wasn't Godhra pre-planned? Very specific bogie of very specific train at a very specific location.
A few dead peacefuls in police firing after they literally wiped out Hindu communities is not exactly retribution or even heartening to hear. As long as the Radical Islam ecosystem is alive and thriving, there is no point in being happy & content with these short term street battle victories...
Rishi_Tri wrote: retaliation was massive. And the pigs squeeled.
any link ref etc ? anyway......all evidence points otherwise
https://twitter.com/rose_k01/status/123 ... 43840?s=21
20,000 fully armed mob burnt & looted shops of Hindus , what is surprising it was led by children. And war cry used was Azaadi! Where have we heard this? 1000s of blue helmet all of sudden....is it difficult to find which shop sold such a large no. of helmets
Bring central govt rule in Delhi. It is time to convert delhi back to UT. I never understood why full statehood is needed for NCR. I might be wrong, but is there precedence for this anywhere else in the world? Washington D.C is not a state!
OmkarC wrote:Am sorry, this may sound harsh, but who overwhelmingly voted and empowered peacefuls by supporting AAP & the "secular ecosystem" driven by greed for FREE electricity, FREE water, short term trinkets ? AAP won overwhelmingly the H vote due to their subsidy politics while M vote was won by Polarization.
Edited your quote only to highlight the specific point:
Slicing AAP voteshare: Assuming 20% (perhaps 25%) points was Muslim, about 5% points was Sikh, 2-3% points others such as Christian, you end up with 20% points of Hindu vote.
Majority Hindus voted for BJP. It was always the question of 5-6% absolute Hindu vote that went AAP way. If not, the results would have been very different. BJP voteshare increased from 32% in 2015 to 38.5%. But yes, clearly not enough.
Amanatullah Khan’s massive victory itself is another cause for concern. This is the same man who was spotted leading violent riots against the Citizenship Amendment Act at the national capital. He was also seen with Sharjeel Imam as the latter made provocative statements right while standing right beside him.
Thus, his massive victory will only embolden the more toxic elements within the Muslim community and also provides an incentive for engaging in more polarizing rhetoric in order to prevent a split in the Muslim vote.
Thus, while the results in themselves are unlikely to impact the national narrative as such, Hindus will have to bear the consequences of the fallout of the success of Muslim consolidation in Delhi.
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If the current scenario holds, then more states might be ruled by non-bjp coalition with BJP having central govt and NDA having enough Rajya Sabha Majority seats for the forseeable future.
Lots of uber-secularite Hindus in the wider world are drinking the equal-equal kool-aid and going along with the "blame Kapil Mishra hate speech for the riots" narrative. Many of these are otherwise well-meaning people, except that they don't realize being inside The Matrix of the leftist ecosystem. This article below is good one with references that show how the stage was set in the run up to these riots, and there was hardly anything spontaneous about them. The twitter thread @pankajs had posted earlier has similar refs, with videos embedded. Some are indeed damaging.
One of the most telling aspects evident in this pervasive anti-CAA scam, that his since morphed into all kinds of p!ssful pet grievances against India is this. And #1 BIF scum Saba Naqvi was boasting about this on her twitter line:
What should have highlighted the gross human rights violation and religious intolerance of TSP and other Islamic countries against non-Islamic religious followers in their midst, has instead been warped around to India's so called 'pogrom' against Muslims post Delhi riots.
How dare SDRE Hindus talk of persecution of other religions, in this case Islam, against Hindus, seems to be the prime mover of this monstrous distortion.
If there ever were a Goebbels alive today, he would be laughing his ass off at how successfully x > y is now being spun as y > x.
And the main villains in this gory massacre of truth are make no mistake about it, Hindus themselves. I mean the colonized, deracinated libarandus. After 6 years of BJP in power, the BIF appear as strong as ever.
Somehow I also wonder if the rich well-off libarandus in Delhi and elsewhere who often boast of being 'culturally Muslim' owing to India's syncretic culture would have raised such a ruckus had say CAA excluded TSP from the list. These BIF scum bags share a lot of camaraderie with TSP TFTA RAPE. (Its more the TFTA attributes than the 'syncretic' part that energizes this colonized scum).
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