Yes, the Turkish F-16’s probably did shoot down those 2 SU-24’s w/AIM-120’s from their side of the border. Who cares?UlanBatori wrote:kananji, with all doo respect... I don't know if you realize that you come across as a blithering {einsteinullah} when you post such a word, with absolutely not a single useful point of evidence or iota of clear thinking. I asked gently the last time you did that, whether you had any evidence, and you disappeared Paki-like (I mean Paks on Internet fora when challenged).Y. Kanan wrote: Nonsense. {snip expert opinion}
Just a thought...it is of course a free forum and your posts are most entertaining. Namaskaram.
{Turkish F-16s..} No doubt an F-16 could shoot down a bomb-laden old Su-24, but do you have evidence that F-16s actually entered Syrian airspace - or did they fire from over Turkish airspace using BVR missiles like the Israelis have been doing? Source please?
Before you get defensive and your own critical thinking abilities shut down, let me point out this latest combat hasn’t shed any light on the effectiveness of the PAF vs our own forces. Anyone can shoot down a bomber with no defensive weapons and no air cover. That’s not the point.
This is more revealing about the superiority of targeting systems, sensors, accuracy of weapons delivery, etc. Russian systems continue to lag badly in this regard. As for evidence, it’s everywhere. No conspiracy here; Turkey is picking off Syrian troops and equipment at will and Russia is afraid to try and stop them. If Turkey did not enjoy local military superiority do you think they would humiliate Putin in front of the whole world? Don’t be so lazy - look at the various news sources and come to your own conclusion. Am I making all this up? You decide. Besides, any “evidence” that I present will be discredited by you immediately. I support the Russians 100% in Syria, but I state reality as it is, not as I wish it to be.