2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 27 Mar 2020 08:42

chetak wrote:beware of social media
look at the identical language of all these tweets

Looks like GoI is on the right track and thus this new "Mysterious case of crying Taxi Drivers" as Arthur Conan Doyle would have said. Just like how it happened during De.Mo, we can expect more sob stories like man dies standing in line to pick up potatoes etc. etc. And ultimately they would all lead to GoI and Modi getting more popular.

Krita · Post by **Krita** » 27 Mar 2020 11:42

The professor of Jamia Milia Uni who had boasted on twitter that he had failed all the Hindu students in his class (Electrical engg).has been suspended pending enquiry. Good riddance!
https://swarajyamag.com/politics/jamia- ... ne-attacks

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 27 Mar 2020 12:08

krishna_krishna wrote:
chetak wrote:This smug votary of the BIF simply cannot hide his schadenfreude.

why is he so very keen on constantly spitting on India when he is holding a US green card

or is it simply that he is also on the same quality weed @RahulGandhi

Its not green card it is Bloomberg using him to propagate a narrative, I saw the link but from an unbiased eyes what he said was correct.

Narrative created is bad.

The reason I say is look at his father one of the most respected intelligence officers of all times , R Govindarajan was the gang of kaoboys of RAW who was the most trusted aide of R N Rao,to this day he has not accepted US citizenship although he could have long time back tells you something.

His father was a great man. So what? One can be quite sure most of the traitor in India or in any other nation were born were born to decent, good and loyal citizens of that nation. Since when a persons parentage become a qualification in judging a persons loyalty to the nation? This fellow was a key economic fellow during many years of UPA and then ended up as head of RBI. If there is a weak infra on anything in banking sector then he had done during his tenure is the question. The fact that the present PM had to start Jan Dhanyojana to get bank accounts open shows how bad the things were before 2014. The same PM was compared to Hitler by this man and acted like a politico while working as RBI head.

A lot people including many senior number of this forum who are no longer Indian Citizens has more love for India than many citizens. So keeping an Indian passport is not something that is a factor. He got position and power due to that passport. He enjoyed best of both nations due to that one passport and one green card.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Mar 2020 12:15

Minister of Information and Broadcasting Prakash Javdekar took to Twitter on Friday and announced that Doordarshan will re-telecast the popular television show Ramayana.

He tweeted, "Happy to announce that on public demand, we are starting retelecast of 'Ramayana' from tomorrow, Saturday March 28 in DD National, One episode in morning 9 am to 10 am, another in the evening 9 pm to 10 pm."

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Mar 2020 12:23

with pappu as PM and pappi as HM

and who exactly are these political leaders from different parties whose experience and competence can help the government cope with the massive COVID2019 challenge.

which guy in India has ever managed a pandemic before, including national level lockdowns

Sanjay Jha@JhaSanjay · 51m

Dear PM @narendramodi

This is a great time to create an “ interim national government “.

Invite a core team of political leaders from different parties whose experience and competence can help the government cope with the massive #COVID2019 challenge.

It’s over to you.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 27 Mar 2020 14:40

Word is that Modi and Shah are in agreement on a national govt. BJP is working hard on it. They have brought in Scindia who may be given a cabinet role. Others are being vetted. Pilot may also be chosen for his competence and experience. LOL.

kit · Post by **kit** » 27 Mar 2020 14:44

schinnas wrote:Word is that Modi and Shah are in agreement on a national govt. BJP is working hard on it. They have brought in Scindia who may be given a cabinet role. Others are being vetted. Pilot may also be chosen for his competence and experience. LOL.

sneaky way to ensure there is no "opposition" left !!

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 27 Mar 2020 15:20

vijayk wrote:
krishna_krishna wrote:
Its not green card it is Bloomberg using him to propagate a narrative, I saw the link but from an unbiased eyes what he said was correct.

Narrative created is bad.

The reason I say is look at his father one of the most respected intelligence officers of all times , R Govindarajan was the gang of kaoboys of RAW who was the most trusted aide of R N Rao,to this day he has not accepted US citizenship although he could have long time back tells you something.
He has been promised the role of MMS by Italian mafia. He is so bitten by that offer his only mission is to attack Modi. Even as RBI governor, he was undermining every message of Modi. Make In India is not essential he said. Now what? If only we as a nation worked on Make In India as a mission, we would not have been in this sorry state.

Seriously, everytime I see his smug face, I get reminded of he tried to run down Make in India and do FUD. How many months, years were lost in various areas because of his sabotage? In any other country, he would have been declared persona non grata and booted out.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 27 Mar 2020 15:24

krishna_krishna wrote:
chetak wrote:This smug votary of the BIF simply cannot hide his schadenfreude.

why is he so very keen on constantly spitting on India when he is holding a US green card

or is it simply that he is also on the same quality weed @RahulGandhi

Its not green card it is Bloomberg using him to propagate a narrative, I saw the link but from an unbiased eyes what he said was correct.

Narrative created is bad.

The reason I say is look at his father one of the most respected intelligence officers of all times , R Govindarajan was the gang of kaoboys of RAW who was the most trusted aide of R N Rao,to this day he has not accepted US citizenship although he could have long time back tells you something.

Lets not oversell these folks. The parents and the kid were known to the family and neighbours ages ago.

They were just like many other Govt servants with ambitious, intelligent kids who did well abroad.

There were many folks of that generation who literally dripped patriotism 100x of which I know of. Refusing a US citizenship, green card was no big deal. If you hang around with people of that era patriotism was de jure. Different matter that they elected, and worked for a family which literally ruined India! True irony.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 27 Mar 2020 15:43

chetak wrote:and who exactly are these political leaders from different parties whose experience and competence can help the government cope with the massive COVID2019 challenge.

A yellow journal in Malayalam has a journalist exclusively there to support/defend Congress. That chap even suggested that MMS be made the head of this "interim whatever government"

. And if MMS insists that CAA should be scrapped so that the Maharaj would nod his head in acceptance, then that also should be done

. For many of the Congress leaders and their chamchas the faith that Queen Victoria handed over the Indian princely state to Prince Nehru and Princess Indira is still going strong.

kit wrote:sneaky way to ensure there is no "opposition" left !!

Heh..heh. My friend you are forgetting about the true opposition in India (or for that matter any thing which is pro-India). Those are the national parties ; CPI(M) and CPI

. Com. Yechuri now on deputation to 10 Janpath as a personal valet would rise upto the occassion.

Karan M wrote:There were many folks of that generation who literally dripped patriotism 100x of which I know of. Refusing a US citizenship, green card was no big deal.

Add one more aspect to it. When folks like Rajan Sr. was in Govt. of India Service, those days they were treated like kings. Even a petty government official job was considered God's gift. Now think about the higher echelons in the central ministries or the IAS or IPS? Bungalows, cars, a battalion of official and non-official servants; these folks had all luxuries. Only people who then would have thought about going abroad would be perhaps people interested in Science & Medicine and people who did not expect to reach a good position in India.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 27 Mar 2020 16:36

chetak wrote:
Minister of Information and Broadcasting Prakash Javdekar took to Twitter on Friday and announced that Doordarshan will re-telecast the popular television show Ramayana.

He tweeted, "Happy to announce that on public demand, we are starting retelecast of 'Ramayana' from tomorrow, Saturday March 28 in DD National, One episode in morning 9 am to 10 am, another in the evening 9 pm to 10 pm."

I can’t wait for the hate and mockery from BIF.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Mar 2020 16:53

Sachin wrote:
chetak wrote:and who exactly are these political leaders from different parties whose experience and competence can help the government cope with the massive COVID2019 challenge.
A yellow journal in Malayalam has a journalist exclusively there to support/defend Congress. That chap even suggested that MMS be made the head of this "interim whatever government" . And if MMS insists that CAA should be scrapped so that the Maharaj would nod his head in acceptance, then that also should be done . For many of the Congress leaders and their chamchas the faith that Queen Victoria handed over the Indian princely state to Prince Nehru and Princess Indira is still going strong.

kit wrote:sneaky way to ensure there is no "opposition" left !!
Heh..heh. My friend you are forgetting about the true opposition in India (or for that matter any thing which is pro-India). Those are the national parties ; CPI(M) and CPI . Com. Yechuri now on deputation to 10 Janpath as a personal valet would rise upto the occassion.

Karan M wrote:There were many folks of that generation who literally dripped patriotism 100x of which I know of. Refusing a US citizenship, green card was no big deal.
Add one more aspect to it. When folks like Rajan Sr. was in Govt. of India Service, those days they were treated like kings. Even a petty government official job was considered God's gift. Now think about the higher echelons in the central ministries or the IAS or IPS? Bungalows, cars, a battalion of official and non-official servants; these folks had all luxuries. Only people who then would have thought about going abroad would be perhaps people interested in Science & Medicine and people who did not expect to reach a good position in India.

intelligence folks had unaccounted and limitless access to funds in the course of their duties and many used the opportunity to the hilt and obviously no receipts need be provided. There were no saints in the IB or R&AW then and nor are there any now

I once worked with the son of just such a middle rung underling and this joker sported one of the first few mobile phones when the call rates were in the twenty rs zone for both call and receive.

no need to guess where that cell phone came from or even who footed the bills

many a family member in those days were educated abroad and paid money as "sources" so that their daily guzara and all other expenses were neatly taken care of in return for some news paper clippings purported to be "intelligence"

these guys were usually the prime candidates for immigrant visas to countries of their choice

arshyam · Post by **arshyam** » 27 Mar 2020 16:58

Sachin wrote:Those are the national parties ; CPI(M) and CPI .

Saar, these are now "notional" parties

Avtar Singh · Post by **Avtar Singh** » 27 Mar 2020 17:35

this Ragghy Ramjam is a shill for the nonsense out of chicago school,
that stupid man Larry Summers et al

whatever these people suggest, best to do the complete opposite

they can only offer debt penury to India and Indians before they
have even got off their knees

objective is for an East India Mk2 run by wall street and american corpses(corporates)
India should keep Ragghy Ramjam at arms length... how the hell did he get into RBI, god only knows

economies are built on savings and capital

not the stuff these people have done to their own citizens...physical/debt slaves to the wall street crowd

as 401ks get smashed again, those that thought they were going to retire.....
will end up slaving around wal mart aisles with their zimmers until they can be poured into a grave

I am sure Larry Summers actually thinks debt is money....
Raggy Ramjam is a disgusting creature.. the worst of self loathers

where are all of americas reserves to weather this crisis?
take a look at what boeing and ge have become...
why cant the greatest health care system mass produce PPE equipment
INDIAS HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS ALREADY BETTER!!!!!
hopefully confirmation will come in due course

someday americans themselves will hate Larry Summers Raggy Ramjam....ebony and ivory consters

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 27 Mar 2020 18:09

arshyam wrote:
Sachin wrote:Those are the national parties ; CPI(M) and CPI .
Saar, these are now "notional" parties

Or 'TABULA RASA'

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Mar 2020 19:05

Abhijit Iyer-Mitra@Iyervval·1h
Via @ians_india, @AartiTikoo & @Natsecjeff

ISIS terrorists Abu Khalid al-Hindi who massacred 25 Sikhs in a terror attack on a Gurudwara in Kabul.

His real name was Mohammad Sajid, a shopkeeper from Kerala who had fled along with 14 other youth to join ISIS 4 years ago.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Mar 2020 23:03

who did this asshat bribe to get selected to the IAS

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Mar 2020 23:09

pappu, मॉमा से बातचीत बंद है क्या? Did she not tell you what she wrote to the PM

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 28 Mar 2020 00:31

Can We Forgive China? by Brahma Chellaney

THE INCALCULABLE HUMAN and economic toll exacted by the spread of the novel coronavirus from China promises to shake up global geopolitics, including China’s position in the world. With the 21-day India lockdown—the largest national shutdown in history—nearly half of the global population is now under some form of lockdown, thanks to China’s disastrous, initial missteps that allowed the deadly virus to spread far and wide.

After the global crisis is over, the West’s relationship with China is unlikely to go back to normal. Efforts are expected to begin to loosen China’s grip on global supply chains. Moves are already afoot in the US Congress to bring manufacture of essential medicines back to the US, which currently relies on China for 97 per cent of all its antibiotics.

A study based on sophisticated modelling has indicated that if Chinese authorities had acted three weeks earlier than they did, the number of Covid-19 cases in China could have been reduced by 95 per cent and the global spread of the disease limited. The virus spread farther and wider because the Communist Party of China (CPC) cared more about its reputation than the Chinese people’s suffering or the transnational impacts.

Make no mistake: China faces lasting damage to its image. The CPC not only engineered the pandemic, however inadvertently, but also has sought to save face by unleashing a sustained disinformation campaign aimed at creating doubts over the new disease’s origin in China. Chinese diplomats, for example, have unabashedly sought to blame the US for the virus. But such outlandish propaganda has few takers.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Mar 2020 01:13

social distancing, anyone

just see how Indians are practicing it

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 28 Mar 2020 01:19

If things don't go badly, it would be a great opportunity to get a 'slice of the pie'
That would be just the thing to get the Economy to take off
Would DT and rest of the west trust India and relocate to India given the Cheen experience ( yes we are not a single party dictatorial 'Shamocracy', regardless of what the liberandus want to project us as in the west)
Given NaMo's elderly statesman like call in the G20 virtual meet, I am very Optimistic about our success in getting a slice of action.
And added to this if we could contain the China-virus with minimal deaths, this would add to the weight that in future India could be trusted to take care of any future epidemics!!!

BSR Murthy · Post by **BSR Murthy** » 28 Mar 2020 06:08

There seems to be an endless supply of sold out traitors from India who write crap about India abroad. This Vidya Krishnan lady writing on India's Coronavirus response in the Atlantic starts out with CAA and "pogrom" against Muzlims. Absolutely trashy one sided criticism filled with half-truths and lies. The article carries a picture of the tricolor with Coronavirus in place of Dharmachakra!

The Callousness of India’s COVID-19 Response

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 28 Mar 2020 06:54

BSR Murthy wrote:There seems to be an endless supply of sold out traitors from India who write crap about India abroad. This Vidya Krishnan lady writing on India's Coronavirus response in the Atlantic starts out with CAA and "pogrom" against Muzlims. Absolutely trashy one sided criticism filled with half-truths and lies. The article carries a picture of the tricolor with Coronavirus in place of Dharmachakra!
The Callousness of India’s COVID-19 Response

That is way over the top - including the blatant disrespect to our Flag. This moron is also proudly bandying it on her twitter account. The goremint should be made aware of this type of fearmongering.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 28 Mar 2020 06:57

^^^Cancel their passports. If they are foreign nationals, then cancel their visas and target their family members to ensure they never set foot in India again.

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 28 Mar 2020 07:02

"Cancel their passports. If they are foreign nationals, then cancel their visas and target their family members to ensure they never set foot in India again."

Definitely. This is absolutely unacceptable, it goes way beyond criticism. It is demagoguery and mendacity.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 28 Mar 2020 07:05

BSR Murthy wrote:There seems to be an endless supply of sold out traitors from India who write crap about India abroad. This Vidya Krishnan lady writing on India's Coronavirus response in the Atlantic starts out with CAA and "pogrom" against Muzlims. Absolutely trashy one sided criticism filled with half-truths and lies. The article carries a picture of the tricolor with Coronavirus in place of Dharmachakra!
The Callousness of India’s COVID-19 Response

Vidya Krishnan is one of the worst of worst brain washed mental case. Some of the articles that she has written can put ISI to shame. Time for GoI to tame such nonsense creators.

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 28 Mar 2020 07:29

In the US, are there any mainstream newspapers that are supportive or sympathetic to India, and who do acknowledge any good work or effort of the Indian government( including on the Covid-19) or the armed forces et al and/or take a more balanced view of communal violence? In Canada, I know of one, the Toronto Sun, the uplifting articles about India are largely the work of one individual, Tarek Fatah( originally from Pakistan!). Cannot speak for any papers in other large cities.

BSR Murthy · Post by **BSR Murthy** » 28 Mar 2020 07:44

Varoon Shekhar wrote:In the US, are there any mainstream newspapers that are supportive or sympathetic to India, and who do acknowledge any good work or effort of the Indian government( including on the Covid-19) or the armed forces et al and/or take a more balanced view of communal violence? In Canada, I know of one, the Toronto Sun, the uplifting articles about India are largely the work of one individual, Tarek Fatah( originally from Pakistan!). Cannot speak for any papers in other large cities.

I am afraid not. Even rags like India abroad that purportedly serve the Indian community in the US have an anti India and anti Hindu bent.

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 28 Mar 2020 08:27

Whoa admins, how did the Wuhan and the Strategic and Political subjects get intertwined?

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 28 Mar 2020 08:34

Varoon Shekhar wrote:In the US, are there any mainstream newspapers that are supportive or sympathetic to India, and who do acknowledge any good work or effort of the Indian government( including on the Covid-19) or the armed forces et al and/or take a more balanced view of communal violence?

Simple answer is No, unfortunately

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 28 Mar 2020 08:46

Varoon Shekhar wrote:Whoa admins, how did the Wuhan and the Strategic and Political subjects get intertwined?

Well it had to happen wonlee. I had suggested that a separate thread purely for COVID related discussions be created but mods shot it down with mijjile.

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 28 Mar 2020 08:49

BSR Murthy wrote:There seems to be an endless supply of sold out traitors from India who write crap about India abroad. This Vidya Krishnan lady writing on India's Coronavirus response in the Atlantic starts out with CAA and "pogrom" against Muzlims. Absolutely trashy one sided criticism filled with half-truths and lies. The article carries a picture of the tricolor with Coronavirus in place of Dharmachakra!
The Callousness of India’s COVID-19 Response

I had just decided yesterday to never read that trash rag called the Atlantic after a horribly biased article about how COVID was being managed in the US. I can't imagine the tripe written about India and don't want to know so I'll just skip this one..

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 28 Mar 2020 10:09

vimal wrote:
BSR Murthy wrote:There seems to be an endless supply of sold out traitors from India who write crap about India abroad. This Vidya Krishnan lady writing on India's Coronavirus response in the Atlantic starts out with CAA and "pogrom" against Muzlims. Absolutely trashy one sided criticism filled with half-truths and lies. The article carries a picture of the tricolor with Coronavirus in place of Dharmachakra!
The Callousness of India’s COVID-19 Response
Vidya Krishnan is one of the worst of worst brain washed mental case. Some of the articles that she has written can put ISI to shame. Time for GoI to tame such nonsense creators.

I have just written a detailed rebuttal in the form of a letter to the editor. Hope it is published. Please do the same.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 28 Mar 2020 10:14

The woman behind India's first testing kit

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52064427

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 28 Mar 2020 10:39

The Modi Govt does not care for handling a negative image due to propagandists like Krishnan. Vidya Krishnan has long been a flagrant FUD spreader. That she and that rag Caravan are still accredited is itself a shame.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 28 Mar 2020 14:38

https://www.facebook.com/16228427447763 ... tn__=EHH-R
This and earlier post by an BRFite confirming Uyghurs capture, makes me wonder: are we becoming the centre of another Radical Wahabhi group. Remember, the Sri Lankan bombers had some links to South Indian Tawahidi group.
Hope Govern is taking note of these and monitoring their activities.
God forbid if some major attack happens either in India or West with confirmed involvement of this Tawahidi group!!!
Pakis will be all over us like rash.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 28 Mar 2020 15:25

Deans wrote: I have just written a detailed rebuttal in the form of a letter to the editor. Hope it is published. Please do the same.

I have written a letter as well slamming the fake news by Vidya Krishnan and asking the Atlantic to keep aside political biases and study and publish the well orchestrated and proactive measures of Modi govt for the benefit of US population. Nobody can deny the data, which is slapping all these shameless urban naxals in their face, robbing them of whatever credibility they have left.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 28 Mar 2020 16:39

With due respect you are wasting your time, these people are paid to write fake news. Anyone knows a A Roy or R Ayyub by the tweets are probably nut cases, but still given the limelight by many media outlets in India and western countries. Anyone listening to these people and giving them media oxygen must have virulent hatred for India. Its like giving a mike to Timothy Mcweigh.

prashanth · Post by **prashanth** » 28 Mar 2020 17:24

This may have been missed. Muzrai dept of Karnataka has been changed to Karnataka Hindu Religious Institutions and Charitable Endowments department, by GOK recently.
https://temples.karnataka.gov.in/info-1/About+Us/en

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 28 Mar 2020 21:43

Rony wrote:In the US, are there any mainstream newspapers that are supportive or sympathetic to India, and who do acknowledge any good work or effort of the Indian government( including on the Covid-19) or the armed forces et al and/or take a more balanced view of communal violence?

I skim through US newspapers, hardly watch an TV news except now i watch a little bit of CNN. With probability 1, I can say there ZERO coverage, and if at all any coverage, its Indian Uncle Tom perverts trying to provide some atrocity literature like that Atlantic rubbish. This crap about them "caring for the poor" or ModiJi's so called "callousness towards the poor" are standard staple colonial diet. Absolutely nothing new, nada, zilch. One has to have zero IQ to think and believe that Indian govt is callous. They aren't but they know the scale of the effort required to fight this virus and all the trade-offs and pros and cons of a particular decision, and its not going to be a pretty sight.

What I find striking is how US media like say CNN contrasts Indian DDM, particularly the Lutyen media. In the case of CNN, all you will see is reams and reams of obsession with every little details that afflicts US from genuine news worthy stories to crap and everything in between, but all focused on US and US alone.

In contrast, DDM Lutyen media acts and thinks so 'globalist' as if India is part of the global elite, rather than focusing on what afflicts India. Except for dorkie, and credit to him for that, everybody else falls way short. But he is too f!king loud, obnoxious, and arrogant to watch him. And those who do focus on India, its a with 2 aims in mind: 1) How bad ModiJi is, and 2) drain inspector reports for the white west like Burka Bibi's dispatches.