2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 19 Apr 2020 17:33

arvin wrote:Mamtha's policy will make it difficult for bengali workers in other states to come back. This will only increase the back lash against her. Center should not intervene politically since elections are next year.
Also Bengal will be among the last to come out of this mess. There would be reluctance to hire bengal labour due to non transparent covid 19 procedures. This will come to bite her.

It would be absolutely anti-national and treasonous behavior for either Mamata or the Center to even think about politics and elections at this point. They (especially the center) must do whatever it takes to contain COVID, even if it means losing the election. If one state does not play ball, the whole country is screwed, and the pain of lockdown was for nothing.

Given the track record of the center regarding Shaheen Bagh etc where their strategy was inertia backed by 'Chankakian' explanations, I am not so confident though that anything will be done to contain the mess. Messaging at this point is critical, and there is precious little of that in terms of narrative exposing Mamata, the little that has trickled out has been from state BJP people and channels like Republic whom frankly nobody even in the RW takes seriously due to the low signal to noise ratio. They should have engaged every state and national media outlet to drum home the message that if WB does not cooperate every state's effect is nullified.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 19 Apr 2020 18:29

Bart S wrote:
Yes, Kota is famous for the coaching places.

I wouldn't necessarily say that they are all upper class (though the twitter-storming is a characteristic of such entitled folks), a lot of them are middle class/lower middle class kids on a budget who would be feeling the pinch and perhaps are not as 'hardened' and conditioned to hardship as migrant labour. But still, they could have made arrangements to provide them relief where they are, provided them counselling etc. And if they had to evacuate them, they should still go to quarantine like the migrant labour, and not allowed to just melt into the crowd.

They were sent to quarantine facilities setup in Prayagraj. Some states like GJ, Kar, KL and TN have done a good job of taking care of migrant workers and other states like MH , DL and RJ have not. UP govt can send buses as logistically possible to neighboring states to bring back its people where they have no hope of survival like Gehlot's RJ or Kejri's DL.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 19 Apr 2020 18:34

Mamta seems to be playing with simple percentage trading based on what happens if x% mortality hits to each group and which group is provided help. Combine that with 1960s deja Vu of exodus to kill of neighboring states.

Meanwhile graphic videos till they stay up. Lynching of Hindu sadhus. Has there been any jamati lynched like this?

https://twitter.com/OpIndia_com/status/ ... 1776247808

https://mobile.twitter.com/bentleyy_/st ... 0788679688

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 19 Apr 2020 18:42

If the victims of this brutal lynching were from "vishesh samudhai" you can bet the opposition parties and mainstream media would have turned the entire world inside out ! The "worlds best CM" Uddhav and his son will probably double the PR budget to bury this news as well. The reason behind the lynching itself is rather murky, its said that 3 sadhus were on their way to GJ to attend a funeral when rumours spread in palgar these were child kidnappers. Its horrific to watch the police just abandon these 3 frail and severely injured men to their fates.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 19 Apr 2020 19:03

Always worth cross checking against the other active threat vector in the tribal areas and if there's any relevance to the lynching.

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/maharasht ... in-palghar

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 19 Apr 2020 19:17

mappunni wrote:
Ambar wrote:Unless the government decides to ban these foreign social media platforms and create Indian alternatives we will continue to suffer. After Indian jihadis like Irene Akbar working together with some Gulf News anti-Hindu journalist to target Indians working in middle east, today a so-called UAE "princess" by name Hend Al Qassimi on twitter(Ladyvelvet_HFQ is the handle) has been posting non-stop anti-India messages and asking her ummah to send her to twitter handles/identities of Indians.
Saar, Please check this twitter timeline. One of the guys who was reporting Indians was outed! He was doing it in the safety of Australia! The guy who outed created a Twitter handle in the guy's real name

https://mobile.twitter.com/AltafSh34154669

And after he was outed his rants on web.archive after he disabled his SM ids

https://web.archive.org/web/20200418144 ... 4270370817

Interesting. Not sure how true it is but saw messages that this Altaf Shaikh goes by Afrazul Mandal on deaf and dumb forum. Unless GoI puts the fear of god in these cretins and their families they will continue this dangerous game. The businessman from UAE Saurabh Upadhyay who tried helping targeted hindus by providing them legal assistance himself had to go underground, and has now even deactivated his company's website along with his social media profiles after "princess" Hend Al Qassimi went after him. For those living and working in the middle east or have friends/family there please be careful and wipe out your identities from social media, the rabid jihadis in India and their Pakistani handlers overseas seem to be working overtime these days .

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 19 Apr 2020 20:10

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/3-kille ... ng-2214013

Mumbai: Barely 125 kilometres from Mumbai, a small village in Maharashtra's Palghar district has reported a horrific case of mob killing; three people, including a 70-year-old man, were attacked and killed on Thursday night after rumours they were kidnapping children to harvest organs, including kidneys.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 19 Apr 2020 20:25

^ Don't know if it's the same case, but there is a video doing the rounds on twitter where a policeman actually pushes a person (said to be a sadhu) hiding behind his vehicle to the mob.. and then the mob lynches the man and another person.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 19 Apr 2020 20:40

Many issues to look into with this lynching.
1) who weaponized the mob mentality prevalent in this region?
2) is there really organ harvesting going on in this tribal areas?
3) Police not putting on effort to save them.
4) sadhus were killed in tribal areas where there's lot of push for conversion from Surat to Mumbai.

BJP is demanding probe.

Swati Goel Sharma
@swati_gs
Read this statement by an asst police inspector quoted by HT in a report two days ago.
“The mob was strong and we tried to save the passengers but it also targeted us...”

Does the video corroborate anything he is saying? Doesn’t seem so #palgharlynching
https://twitter.com/swati_gs/status/1251870011750137856

Police clearly allowed them to be killed like it was a pre-planned sanctioned killing. They just figured that no video would leak out or something. Demeanor of policemen clearly indicates not worried about anything. Also to note that none were worried about the virus or anything. No facial coverings except for few policemen.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Apr 2020 21:04

https://twitter.com/TokayevKZ/status/12 ... 9233214470

Qasym-Jomart Toqayev @TokayevKZ

Sincerely thank the Government of India and personally Prime Minister @NarendraModi for the donation of medical supplies to Kazakhstan to contain the coronavirus. This high mark of friendship & solidarity is made even at a time when India banned export of drugs abroad.
@MEAIndia

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1251578914696282113

Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

#COVID crisis: India sends 5.5 million tablets of hydroxychloroquine to UAE

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 19 Apr 2020 21:12

Ambar wrote:For those living and working in the middle east or have friends/family there please be careful and wipe out your identities from social media, the rabid jihadis in India and their Pakistani handlers overseas seem to be working overtime these days

Click here for a news report in Malayalam which has tweets of a few Arabs. The threat is very obvious in these tweets. It also gives me a feeling that these moves within UAE could also be after knowing and understanding the BJP's influence increasing among the Indian population. Perhaps the Arabs had a feeling that they can a very high influence over India (may be after seeing how many folks from India grovel in front of them), but now they also realise that they were wrong. The statement from princess may be with tacit approval from the ruling family.

People working in the middle east have to be careful, and perhaps do some taquiya when in the Arab lands and help pro-Hindu organisations back in India.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 19 Apr 2020 21:34

Sachin, its quite possible. We saw many expatriate Indians in Gulf countries also light diyas when Modi asked everyone to light a lamp in solidarity to fight the pandemic. The awakening of new India wouldn't have gone unnoticed in the middle-east and its rulers and hence the eagerness to go after Hindus living/working there to crush their spirits. I sure hope the fall in oil prices will accelerate the ever weakening influence of middle eastern wahabis over muslims elsewhere.

Many would have also read about the recent troubles for NMC Health Group in UAE and for its founder BR Shetty. While there is little doubt that NMC in its quest and eagerness to grow rapidly hid debt and cooked its books, i found it incredible that so many Indian muslims living in Gulf countries cheering NMC's collapse and gunning for its founders. They seem to forget that it is people like BR Shetty who contributed immensely into making many of the gulf countries into modern states and paved the path for millions of other foreigners to come in and earn wealth. Also, despite NMC being the sole reason for Abu Dhabi becoming middle east's "health city" and BR Shetty and his wife's almost 50 year history and contribution to UAE, the Abu Dhabi commercial bank was quick to approach courts asking it to stop BR Shetty and his immediate family members from leaving UAE. While those who commit fraud must pay the price, whats important is to learn that in middle eastern countries no matter how rich you are you will still be treated as a 2nd class citizen unless you are an arab muslim or European/American white.

habal · Post by **habal** » 19 Apr 2020 22:00

Firstly India must stop sending so many Indians to these arab countries in this day & age and those who go must be supported to the hilt by the might of the Indian govt. We need to move up the value chain and wean Indians off the coolie type jobs that used to be available aplenty.

Meanwhile somethings are happening below the surface which needs to be studied.

India is losing its economic oomph which makes the arabs act all cocky. Arabs are basically desert dwellers and thus they are opportunists and will head towards whichever way leads to power/powerful men. They are sensing this as opportunity to grab Indian owned properties in Gulf and cut Indias massive presence in uae, saudi & kuwait. Ofcourse some hindu NRIs are providing them with an excuse by sharing social media platforms with people who are antagonistic to Indian interests and have shady ownership.

BR Shetty btw has fled to India in March itself.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 19 Apr 2020 22:17

sanjaykumar wrote:Arif Aajakia is a decent man. But we are dealing with a mindset that claims 'Muhammad Rafi was a great Muslim singer' (sic).

Perhaps some of the people he refers to can go to their great Muslim country, or Saba Naqvi can go to the Shia paradise of Iran and lick the graves there to be more at home in her culture (I am not making this up).

Is Saba Naqvi the daughter of Saeed Naqvi?

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 19 Apr 2020 22:17

https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/nation ... 06100.html

In Palghar district, the CPI(M) won six ZP seats and 12 PS seats, making it a total of 18 seats. This is three seats more than the seats won by the Marxists in the last election in 2015.

Sanju · Post by **Sanju** » 19 Apr 2020 22:38

KLNMurthy wrote:<snip..>
Is Saba Naqvi the daughter of Saeed Naqvi?

Yes

Saba Naqvi on Twitter

Saba Naqvi
@_sabanaqvi
Brilliant piece by Saeed Naqvi who really does know the minefields and oilfields of Mid East well. (Disclosure: my father) https://naqvijournal.blogspot.com/2019/ ... e.html?m=1
1:28 AM · Sep 28, 2019·Twitter for Android

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Apr 2020 22:46

KLNMurthy wrote:
sanjaykumar wrote:Arif Aajakia is a decent man. But we are dealing with a mindset that claims 'Muhammad Rafi was a great Muslim singer' (sic).

Perhaps some of the people he refers to can go to their great Muslim country, or Saba Naqvi can go to the Shia paradise of Iran and lick the graves there to be more at home in her culture (I am not making this up).
Is Saba Naqvi the daughter of Saeed Naqvi?

she is.

her sister farah is the more dangerous one.

farah maintains a low profile, was a member of the mafia family's NAC and is embedded deep in the bowels of the BIF network.

Avtar Singh · Post by **Avtar Singh** » 19 Apr 2020 22:52

I first went to Dubai Airport in late 1980s.. it was a desert area with a runway and only three jetty stands
made of what appeared to be compacted sand.

Then returned in the 1990s and I was always very grateful for my "white shield" as I would refer to it.
My compatriots made me feel a lot safer.

Invariably on reaching the hotel (AUH) I would be accosted by the SDRE type bell/luggage handlers and
they would unload at how terrible their treatment was at the hands of the locals.
I remember one guy telling me of some chap being hit by a local driver, when the police turned up...
he was given the beating!

On transiting through Dubai airport last August I think things have changed but obviously nowhere
near enough and probably never will.

But being an optimist on India gdp... a high gdp per capita will eventually scream so loud even the most
horrid of people will have to listen.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 19 Apr 2020 22:56

Weird mix this Palghar. Looks like both the sitting MP and MLA are from Shiv Sena. It has a mix of adivasi hindus, fishermen community, konkan muslims, and christians. It also appears to be a hotbed of christian conversion mafia and naxals. One thing is for sure, the perpetrators are likely from RoL or RoP and hence the total radio silence from Maharashtra government and its PR machinery. In one of the videos if you listen carefully you can hear someone shout "maar Shoaib maar or baag Shoaib" , the shoaib part is very clear. While the police who pushed these severely injured men into the hands of a murderous mob needs to be imprisoned and dismissed , its incredible that in this day and age majority of our police lack pistols, radio sets and other deterrents.

On a related note, Raj Thackerey must be the dumbest politician in India. With ever increasing anger against Shiv Sena and father/son Thackerey duo, Raj has a golden opportunity to speak up, and build his party based on core principles of Balasaheb's original Shiv Sena but he seems interested only in making low level real estate deals in Mumbai and Pune.

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 19 Apr 2020 23:12

habal wrote:Firstly India must stop sending so many Indians to these arab countries in this day & age and those who go must be supported to the hilt by the might of the Indian govt.

I agree about that in general. But it has to be done in a calculated way that we gain and the Arabs lose.

For this to happen, there has to be more careful analysis of demographics and economic activity of Indians in the middle east (say UAE).

Using Wikipedia, we can glean the following info:

Total population of UAE is roughly 10 mn, of which 27% (2.7 mn) are Indians.

In terms of religion, Hinduism is only 7% of UAE.

Assuming practically all the Hindus are Indian and the rest are greens, it means 2 m Indian greens and 0.7 m Indian Hindus in the UAE.

Now, what is missing is the economic contribution of these two groups, e.g.
- income
- remittance
- type of jobs (including which sectors) and skill level
- impact on UAE economy

Are there statistics and reports available publicly? Without this information, we on BRF can only talk in generalities about how to make the Arabs hurt using our workforce and manpower as a policy tool. Once you have the above kind of information, there are many levers that can be engaged.

One general way to counter this would be to have at the same time:

- A law regarding "rights of overseas Indians and domestic workforce loss"

- A law requiring outbound work visas for Indian citizens, with quotas for different types of jobs that are balanced by internal labor demand

The official intent of these laws would be "if we are going to lose workforce, we want to make sure that workforce has proper rights in the foreign country of residence and we have enough skilled workers to supply local demand". Provisions could be, for example:

- If the outbound worker cannot acquire permanent residence (with certain benchmark level of rights) or citizenship in the foreign country within a certain amount of time, they must return when the outbound visa expires, or be subject to law enforcement actions, property attachment, cancellation of passport, lose right to remit funds, etc.

mappunni · Post by **mappunni** » 19 Apr 2020 23:35

Ambar wrote: what's important is to learn that in middle eastern countries no matter how rich you are you will still be treated as a 2nd class citizen unless you are an Arab Muslim or European/American white.

Ambar Saar, Golden words. Most of ME airlines that fly to the US depends on the Indian crowd to fillup their planes. A little voting with the wallet and flying thru Oirope or through SE Asia will bring some sense to them. I have long stopped flying thru ME when I visit India.

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 19 Apr 2020 23:46

You guys are overthinking this too much, and grouping together all 'arabs' due to a few jehadis on social media. At the govt level, if anything the strategic ties between India and UAE etc are growing stronger, I think most of this can be managed quite easily with some quiet discussions at the govt level. Paper tigers on social media are not that relavent.

Having said that, extremely stupid of people to use publicly identifiable handles to have heated religious or political discussions on social media, especially while working in countries that have no FOE for even their own people.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Apr 2020 00:18

India's lockdown in a nutshell.

People who should be out saving the economy are in lockdown.

People who should be in lockdown are out destroying our healthcare system.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 20 Apr 2020 00:59

mappunni wrote:
Ambar wrote: what's important is to learn that in middle eastern countries no matter how rich you are you will still be treated as a 2nd class citizen unless you are an Arab Muslim or European/American white.
Ambar Saar, Golden words. Most of ME airlines that fly to the US depends on the Indian crowd to fillup their planes. A little voting with the wallet and flying thru Oirope or through SE Asia will bring some sense to them. I have long stopped flying thru ME when I visit India.

I have decided not to visit or fly through any countries that are islamic and most countries that are communist or not democratic. You never know why you might be implicated in something at the whim of some authority and made to disappear or have no recourse to a lawyer or a way to contact for help. And of course, I am not going to contribute to jihad. We all should avoid travelling with the jihadi airlines or even transiting through their airports.

VKumar · Post by **VKumar** » 20 Apr 2020 01:12

Good decision. I have heard of a Company that has refused major business deals from Islamic nations and China. In the last 20 years they have let go of several opportunities. People like these are around.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 20 Apr 2020 01:15

22 Bangladeshis Arrested For Illegally Living In Maharashtra's Palghar
"These people didn't have any valid documents in their possession," an official said.
All India Press Trust of India
Updated : February 12, 2020 08:32 pm IST

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/22-bang ... ct-2179197

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Apr 2020 01:28

https://twitter.com/BinodPrAdhikari/sta ... 8145159169

बिनोद प्रसाद अधिकारी @BinodPrAdhikari

"The consignment with medical assistance for Nepal to fight against COVID-19 pandemic will arrive capital Kathmandu on Tuesday via special flight. It will also include Two Lakh capsules of Hydroxychloroquine amongst other medical essentials.” Source informed
@ANI

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 20 Apr 2020 02:06

VKumar wrote:Good decision. I have heard of a Company that has refused major business deals from Islamic nations and China. In the last 20 years they have let go of several opportunities. People like these are around.

Wow, that is very impressive and admirable, though I personally don't agree with it. I figure India has to be practical and ethical. Reducing it should be the goal. But there should be no ties with Pakistan, of any kind.

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 20 Apr 2020 04:54

Bart S wrote:You guys are overthinking this too much, and grouping together all 'arabs' due to a few jehadis on social media. At the govt level, if anything the strategic ties between India and UAE etc are growing stronger, I think most of this can be managed quite easily with some quiet discussions at the govt level. Paper tigers on social media are not that relavent.

It would be a mistake to think this is only about the current incidents. It is a much broader issue which should also be applied to other countries in the region. "Strategies ties growing stronger" is a very broad term. Modi has certainly grown the "strategic ties" with UAE but has given very little away from our side. In short, if UAE stops all economic partnership with India, it won't hurt us much...but if the 3 mn Indians disappear from UAE, it will be disastrous for them. The current situation doesn't properly leverage the key importance of Indian workforce.

The new deal should be very straightforward: if you want some of our workforce, either give them permanent residence with much higher rights than now, and a path to citizenship (since none of these countries have elected governments). Otherwise, we take them back in a few years. You can't get away with us running your country for you without paying a much higher price than you are now.

Obviously, any such new policies should be set up to apply to all countries. But it should be used to target the countries which need attention. E.g., Indians who go to the US either get a path to PR/citizenship or return after some years when their contracts/visas expire. Not much attention needed there.

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 20 Apr 2020 04:56

hanumadu wrote:
mappunni wrote:
Ambar Saar, Golden words. Most of ME airlines that fly to the US depends on the Indian crowd to fillup their planes. A little voting with the wallet and flying thru Oirope or through SE Asia will bring some sense to them. I have long stopped flying thru ME when I visit India.
I have decided not to visit or fly through any countries that are islamic and most countries that are communist or not democratic. You never know why you might be implicated in something at the whim of some authority and made to disappear or have no recourse to a lawyer or a way to contact for help. And of course, I am not going to contribute to jihad. We all should avoid travelling with the jihadi airlines or even transiting through their airports.

I have being doing all the above for years. I am glad I am not alone here.

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 20 Apr 2020 06:34

Maharashtra always has the distinction of being in the forefront of assault against demonstrators in dharmic causes. In October 1966 even before the mass agitation in Delhi Nov 6-7 1966 to ban cow slaughter, which lead to many deaths in police firing, there was a demonstration against cow slaughter in Washim MH. Police fired at the demonstrators killing 11.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 20 Apr 2020 06:57

There is apparently a petition in the Supreme Court seeking a directive to the Union Government to deploy the army to enforce lockdown. I think India is the only country in the world where such nonsense is entertained by courts. What next? A court order to invade Pakistan? High time the Indian constitution is amended to nullify such intererence in government. Unelected judges have no business micromanaging the Executive or doing the job of the Legislature. Commanding use of the military would be an absurd attempt to usurp Executive power.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 20 Apr 2020 07:16

While what happened to those 2 Sadhus is tragic and unadulterated evil, but there are home truths that we must acknowledge.

First, as many have noted, not too much outrage among the BIF libarandus, the oppositions scum like the Mahua Moitras (who plagiarized some speech to cast ModiJI as a 'fascist'), the Garga Chatterjis, the Saba Naqvis, the Yogendra Yadavs, the Burka Bibis etc. Nothing surprising there. We just saw that evil b!tch Adothi go repeat the "Muslims are being lynched", "genocide of Muslims in India"hateful lies on some white channel. And in fact, even in this instance, had the victims been 2 maulvis, oh my goodness, this news would have been on front pages of the NYT and WP. Nothing surprising here.

But as I can testify, I have with my own eyes seen such horrific violence growing up in Benguluru, and I have also seen it in AP, my home state during my visits there. That is why my blood boiled when the above referenced libarandus built a narrative of "Muslims are being lynched" under ModiJi after every hate crime when lynching is only all too common in India.

I recall Rakesh SinhaJi trying to beg, plead, and emphasize this point to the likes of fraudster Sreenivasan Jain and Bimbo Omar Abdullah's keep, namely, this is a horrific malaise our society suffers from, and you are not solving any problem by apportioning blame on ModiJi and BJP. And this bloody Sreenivas Jain chutiya would pull some bogus stats from his rectum to silence Rakesh Sinha.

Sadly, libarandus have succeeded in creating this "Muslims are being lynched" narrative while the reality is something else that needs to confronted head on by every nationalist. I know the temptation is to do tu tu mein mein with BIF libarandus, but thats not going to help.

disha · Post by **disha** » 20 Apr 2020 07:42

chetak wrote:farah maintains a low profile, was a member of the mafia family's NAC and is embedded deep in the bowels of the BIF network.

Farah got unearthed. At this point, the 'generals', 'colonels' and 'majors' from the BIF camps are unleashed.

Folks be prepared to take even more hits. This battle was truly started in 2019 itself and the clarion call was made in Texas and underlined again in Ahmedabad. The war is truly well upon us. So be prepared to take some hits and not fall into Kejruisque 'Modi do something' whine!

Please time this:

1. Nobel laureate stating that ChinaVirus is made in lab https://swarajyamag.com/insta/professor ... -wuhan-lab

And the fast and furious gas lighting by others

Montagnier’s claims however was dismissed by another.French virologist Étienne SimonLorièr. AFP quoted Montagnier as sating that “these are very small elements that are found in other viruses of the same family”.

One can agree that Monsieur Montagnier knows his virology good enough and would not have made a stray comment.

2. Pappu going live with advice.

3. Arundhati Roy going live. Whenever the 'atlanticists' in BIF want to make a point, Arundhati is trotted out. It does not matter if Rafael is an aircraft carrier or not.

4. Thooblighis and Thookers going ape-shit. The deep network of Thooblighis and Thookers stand exposed.

5. Twitter handles getting dox'ed left-right-and-central.

The war just went brutal. It may get even worse.

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 20 Apr 2020 07:47

darshan wrote:Mamta seems to be playing with simple percentage trading based on what happens if x% mortality hits to each group and which group is provided help. Combine that with 1960s deja Vu of exodus to kill of neighboring states.

Meanwhile graphic videos till they stay up. Lynching of Hindu sadhus. Has there been any jamati lynched like this?

https://twitter.com/OpIndia_com/status/ ... 1776247808

https://mobile.twitter.com/bentleyy_/st ... 0788679688

Can't believe this fzckery! I have a nasty feeling that we're going to need that largest army in the world to maintain law and order in the country. At least in certain places like WB. And probly the usual places where certain communities have larger populations...

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 20 Apr 2020 08:42

darshan wrote:Mamta seems to be playing with simple percentage trading based on what happens if x% mortality hits to each group and which group is provided help. Combine that with 1960s deja Vu of exodus to kill of neighboring states.

Meanwhile graphic videos till they stay up. Lynching of Hindu sadhus. Has there been any jamati lynched like this?

https://twitter.com/OpIndia_com/status/ ... 1776247808

https://mobile.twitter.com/bentleyy_/st ... 0788679688

Looks like police looked the other way and were complicit in letting the crowd lynch the sadhus.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 20 Apr 2020 08:43

Cain Marko wrote:

Can't believe this fzckery! I have a nasty feeling that we're going to need that largest army in the world to maintain law and order in the country. At least in certain places like WB. And probly the usual places where certain communities have larger populations...

No one wants a police state. These people need to be disenfranchised ASAP.

shaun · Post by **shaun** » 20 Apr 2020 08:45

,Total testing is 4 Lacs in India and Bengal have done only 5K tests so far. With such a low sample , they have started complaining about alleged defective kits supplied . Problem is NICED have flagged a week back ,about the low number of tests recently, to which The WB CS have alleged that the institute can only test 100 samples per day !! Which seems to be untrue, NICED being a regional virology center. It is understanable that NICED now will be targeted , first for low number of tests and now for faulty kits . wbdhfw have tweeted , "There was no problem earlier when the testing kits were being received directly from National Institute of Virology, Pune. Recently, the supplies to Government Labs in West Bengal have been routed through ICMR-NICED, Kolkata" . But what we know , all the testing kits be it from VIR Pune , are supplied to WB, is routed through NICED . There seems to be a campaign to malign NICED . Is there any precedent now in India of faulty testing kits .

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronav ... mr-2214619

More over Odisha have same level of infrastructure if not low but with a less population base compare to WB but they have done approx 10k sample tests . There are some unauthenticated report circulating in WhatsApp from Doctors in Kolkata that estimated asymptomatic cases are in thousands .

updates
“Earlier when kits were required in smaller quantities they were imported, standardised and then distributed by NIV, Pune. But when the demand started rising ICMR imported the kits and sent them directly to the 16 regional hubs, including NICED, in Kolkata. The kits were then distributed to state run medical colleges where they were required to be standardised. This standardisation is not being done because of lack of time and technical knowledge,” said Shanta Dutta, NICED director.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 20 Apr 2020 10:48

KL Dubey wrote:
Bart S wrote:You guys are overthinking this too much, and grouping together all 'arabs' due to a few jehadis on social media. At the govt level, if anything the strategic ties between India and UAE etc are growing stronger, I think most of this can be managed quite easily with some quiet discussions at the govt level. Paper tigers on social media are not that relavent.
In short, if UAE stops all economic partnership with India, it won't hurt us much...but if the 3 mn Indians disappear from UAE, it will be disastrous for them. The current situation doesn't properly leverage the key importance of Indian workforce.

The new deal should be very straightforward: if you want some of our workforce, either give them permanent residence with much higher rights than now, and a path to citizenship (since none of these countries have elected governments). Otherwise, we take them back in a few years. You can't get away with us running your country for you without paying a much higher price than you are now.

They will simply import Filipinos, BDs and others. Indians have slightly better education than these and are very slightly more technical but most are just high school graduates and at best semi-skilled. Don't even think about getting these 3 million back they are unemployable in India. Right now we need UAE more than they need us, lets be practical.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 20 Apr 2020 10:51

Having said that, extremely stupid of people to use publicly identifiable handles to have heated religious or political discussions on social media, especially while working in countries that have no FOE for even their own people

Like in India?! It is always better to not indulge in tu tu meain meain with those out to spit on others and not have public info for anything. In other words, the behaviour is always like that and it would be better not to indulge. That guy in UAE had to leave for just support. As someone said earlier about Kashmiri pandits, better to be paranoid and cautious than repent later.