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There is no way she or anyone from Congress forgives Arnab. That is not going to happen.
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syam wrote:arnab interrogation is eye-opener type of jolt the so called 'rw' need. bjp with its gandhi giri going to get every supporter killed one day. on other hand, their opponents won't shy away from doing everything to remove any threat.

if congress had gotten similar majority like bjp, they would have made whole sangh parivar disappear by now. it's just matter of time before that happens. bjp and rss are simply unfit to do any politics. i am distancing my self from bjp from now on wards. those who value their lives and future, should think in similar lines. I can see how some folks can hate NaMo. From certain pov, it makes sense. Not going to post any vile or over the top criticism. this whole thing is just no longer my cup of tea.
Have faith and a strong heart. RSS has lost innumerable men, suffered countless deadly assaults, lawsuits, daily insults and yet they carry on doing their duty for the nation. The sangh today is bigger than it ever was before. I remember Modi's interview years ago and he said during the neverending Godhra investigations by Congress' Kangaroo courts, he would get summons to appear before the CBI in Gandhinagar , and sometimes summons were for him to appear before the CBI in Delhi, and each time he would make it a point to be there on time but the CBI officers would make him wait in the lobby for hours just to humiliate him. And when it was time for questioning, the CBI would send a junior ranking officer just out of pettiness and issue a new summons order for a later day again. Modi is the kind who truly believes in "Satyameva Jayate" the truth shall prevail. The congress ecosystem predates independence and goes back to the time when people like Motilal Nehru were darbaaris of the British, a mere 5 year rule wont be able to reverse it but bit by bit you will see the erosion of the ecosystem. Have faith and have patience, the battle is a very long one.
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Ambar wrote:
syam wrote:arnab interrogation is eye-opener type of jolt the so called 'rw' need. bjp with its gandhi giri going to get every supporter killed one day. on other hand, their opponents won't shy away from doing everything to remove any threat.

if congress had gotten similar majority like bjp, they would have made whole sangh parivar disappear by now. it's just matter of time before that happens. bjp and rss are simply unfit to do any politics. i am distancing my self from bjp from now on wards. those who value their lives and future, should think in similar lines. I can see how some folks can hate NaMo. From certain pov, it makes sense. Not going to post any vile or over the top criticism. this whole thing is just no longer my cup of tea.
Have faith and a strong heart. RSS has lost innumerable men, suffered countless deadly assaults, lawsuits, daily insults and yet they carry on doing their duty for the nation. The sangh today is bigger than it ever was before. I remember Modi's interview years ago and he said during the neverending Godhra investigations by
Tell that to the families of countless sangh foot soldiers murdered across the country. Sabarimala, Kannur, Udupi, West Bengal, Madhyapradesh the list goes on.
What is the use of 300+ MPs, ABV achieved far more with far less. Six years have passed and this will go on forever.
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“You cannot run government as a PIL petitioner!”, the Solicitor General added.
Which is why a prohibition is needed. The elected leadership of India is answerable to the people of India, via the mechanism of elections. They are not answerable to unelected judges. These endless directives to the Centre are unthinkable in other countries. Courts do not attempt to micromanage the executive.
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Krita wrote:Tell that to the families of countless sangh foot soldiers murdered across the country. Sabarimala, Kannur, Udupi, West Bengal, Madhyapradesh the list goes on.
What is the use of 300+ MPs, ABV achieved far more with far less. Six years have passed and this will go on forever.
And what's the use of your wailing ? You make it sound like you've a very clear idea. Maybe you do, so you want to tell us. Or you don't, in which case there's not much point in just joining the bandwagon to :((
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Krita wrote:
Ambar wrote:
Have faith and a strong heart. RSS has lost innumerable men, suffered countless deadly assaults, lawsuits, daily insults and yet they carry on doing their duty for the nation. The sangh today is bigger than it ever was before. I remember Modi's interview years ago and he said during the neverending Godhra investigations by
Tell that to the families of countless sangh foot soldiers murdered across the country. Sabarimala, Kannur, Udupi, West Bengal, Madhyapradesh the list goes on.
What is the use of 300+ MPs, ABV achieved far more with far less. Six years have passed and this will go on forever.
I am a Sangh "foot soldier" myself sir, and i can tell you if things are bad now then things are 100x bad when a non-BJP party is in power. What you are seeing in MH today wouldn't have happened under a BJP government. Abolishing articles 370/35A, Ram Janmabhoomi verdict after 150+ years of litigation ( we are dreaming if we think Supreme court would make the same decision on its own if Congress was in power), CAA, Triple talak, Balakot, taking back Karnataka and MP..the list goes on but yet we say Modi and Amit Shah are not doing enough. The ecosystem is a multi-headed hydra carefully nurtured for nearly a century and deeply embedded in administration,bureaucracy, judiciary,law enforcement and even military, some of them dont have fear yet because they look at 90+ years of history and see only 10 of those years were under a different government. If congress supporters threw their hands up in the air the way we do then they wouldnt have won election after election for all these decades. Have faith.
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Manish_Sharma wrote:
sudarshan wrote:
How is the BJP boycott hurting Purie? Just curious.
All juiciness of TV debates go if main party BJP isn't there, only commie-leftist-congis sit there then there's total agreement NO DEBATE. People just don't watch the channel.
Thanks.
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Has he finally come out? A few mins ago, I was on Republic website about 20 mins ago, but nothing on this. Looks like Sonia ecosystem is mentally torturing this guy. I can't imagine what is there to interrogate for 10 hours and counting? What an stranglehold these scum have that even when out of power, they can exercise this kind of influence. Imagine any police question Sreenivasn Jain and his channel for his daily peddling of hate against BJP/ModiJi non stop for past 6 years using cherry picked stats, what would have happened? Imagine, any cop had even touched Rana Ayyub for her fake news? Questioned Coupta for his fake news? Goodness me, Congoons are more powerful than I thought. And a chilling thought. Imagine of after 10 years, Sonia Gandhi and her slaves are back at the helm in Delhi, what would they do to BJP?RSS?
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Ambar wrote: Have faith and a strong heart.
that's suicidal approach, sir. we should have practical heart. I have complete faith in modiji to slap few ed cases, nothing more.
RSS has lost innumerable men, suffered countless deadly assaults, lawsuits, daily insults and yet they carry on doing their duty for the nation. The sangh today is bigger than it ever was before.
I said they are totally unfit for politics. that doesn't mean they are some bad organization. sangh is more like gau matha which knows only to give, doesn't have the mean bone which is like main requirement for politics.
I remember Modi's interview years ago and he said during the neverending Godhra investigations by Congress' Kangaroo courts, he would get summons to appear before the CBI in Gandhinagar , and sometimes summons were for him to appear before the CBI in Delhi, and each time he would make it a point to be there on time but the CBI officers would make him wait in the lobby for hours just to humiliate him. And when it was time for questioning, the CBI would send a junior ranking officer just out of pettiness and issue a new summons order for a later day again. Modi is the kind who truly believes in "Satyameva Jayate" the truth shall prevail.
you are forgetting I am also his supporter. the problem here is not him. the bjp and the whole eco-system. what's wrong with being little self-serving? all it takes is simple phone call from delhi, arnab would have been out by first hour itself. they would have secured his loyalty/alliance at least. for the first time in his life, arnab took hindu issue and he is getting persecuted because of it. how he is going to take the issue again if this sort of rewards are expected? forget about arnab, no one going to take these issue up from now on.
The congress ecosystem predates independence and goes back to the time when people like Motilal Nehru were darbaaris of the British, a mere 5 year rule wont be able to reverse it but bit by bit you will see the erosion of the ecosystem. Have faith and have patience, the battle is a very long one.
nothing waits for us. we don't know what's going to happen by next month. if we don't utilize the chance given now, when will we do it? bjp could have developed some sort of pack instinct if not predatory instincts. sadly, it looks like bunch of leeches feeding on modi-shah.

also arnab is like final nail in the coffin for me. we had some good youtube channels. they all got hounded by congis. no support from bjp. we know many twitter handles which got persecuted offline too. no support from bjp. it's like some one braves to speak about hindu cause and congis nuke them. bjp watches all of it from sidelines.
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LOL , permit me some gentle leg pulling - people would point all this issue with BJP/RSS's chalta hain attitude before and you'd attack them for their point of view. And now you realize the gravity of the issue. "Welcome to the dark side" as GD would say! Fingers crossed that there's a change in the policy!
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Then why did you endorse it?

The rules of service are very clear, and the Ministry has already deemed this as 'misconduct' (though you may disagree with the Ministry).

Accepting this behavior now will only encourage more in the future.

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The paper FORCE by 50 young IRS officers suggesting policy measures had been forwarded by IRSA to CBDT for consideration. It does not purport to represent the official views of the entire IRS, or the IT Dept.
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The way the Govt went about the entire LTCG, DDT issue, the incredibly tone blind comments by Hasmukh Adia and then the manner in which Madam FM kept informing us the Govt only works for the "poor", the socialist dogma is too heavily steeped both in them and the babucracy. There is still time to change, time to fix things. Let not the chase for optics become the drivers for policy.
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We need to understand how scums of India (PRESSTITUTES), Islamic terrorists and their front line on the ground, international terrorist eco-system work well together. Very well supported by worldwide terror infrastructure primarily supported by George Soros, Saudis and now Chinese.

The idiots in BJP are clueless trying to impress these scums nationally and internationally. SO the ecosystem basically makes noise everyday in national/international media on how Modi is a dictator/fascists/killing all Muslims they provide gaps for missionaries and islamists to continue their terror and conversion. The end goal of all these scums is to co-ordinate across the board.
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Ambar wrote:
Krita wrote:
Tell that to the families of countless sangh foot soldiers murdered across the country. Sabarimala, Kannur, Udupi, West Bengal, Madhyapradesh the list goes on.
What is the use of 300+ MPs, ABV achieved far more with far less. Six years have passed and this will go on forever.
I am a Sangh "foot soldier" myself sir, and i can tell you if things are bad now then things are 100x bad when a non-BJP party is in power. What you are seeing in MH today wouldn't have happened under a BJP government. Abolishing articles 370/35A, Ram Janmabhoomi verdict after 150+ years of litigation ( we are dreaming if we think Supreme court would make the same decision on its own if Congress was in power), CAA, Triple talak, Balakot, taking back Karnataka and MP..the list goes on but yet we say Modi and Amit Shah are not doing enough. The ecosystem is a multi-headed hydra carefully nurtured for nearly a century and deeply embedded in administration,bureaucracy, judiciary,law enforcement and even military, some of them dont have fear yet because they look at 90+ years of history and see only 10 of those years were under a different government. If congress supporters threw their hands up in the air the way we do then they wouldnt have won election after election for all these decades. Have faith.
BJP have to get rid of deadweights like Pakya, Ravi Shankar and Rupani. Modi needs to give no quarter to the BIF, they were down after the 2014 loss.But, the Prithiviraj syndrome has again dealt a blow to the efforts of destroying the ecosystem.
The true sangh are fearless and time and time again that has been displayed. I personally know the people who had taken a big risk and participated in the Sabarimala protest. One of the guys (an ex army Major) passed away recently due to pneumonia ( he hadn't taken care of his health during the daily protest at sannidhanam).
No union leader helped these guys and some of them still have pending police cases against them (for Namajapam) while the Jamaatis/Shaheen bagh scums/Delhi rioters/Palghar Sadhu killers are still happily continuing with their criminal activities.
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syam wrote:arnab interrogation is eye-opener type of jolt the so called 'rw' need. bjp with its gandhi giri going to get every supporter killed one day. on other hand, their opponents won't shy away from doing everything to remove any threat.

if congress had gotten similar majority like bjp, they would have made whole sangh parivar disappear by now. it's just matter of time before that happens. bjp and rss are simply unfit to do any politics. i am distancing my self from bjp from now on wards. those who value their lives and future, should think in similar lines. I can see how some folks can hate NaMo. From certain pov, it makes sense. Not going to post any vile or over the top criticism. this whole thing is just no longer my cup of tea.
you are quite right , people who are not affiliated to any organization , who voluntarily or involuntarily , doing their bits to counter the false narrative being propagate by BIFs , should be very cautious . from the latest episode of somnath das (https://theprint.in/india/man-behind-vi ... ty/407172/) to the police action on fruit sellers for putting Bhagwa Dhwaj in Jhakhand and Bihar , not a single statement from bjp .
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Krita wrote: No union leader helped these guys and some of them still have pending police cases against them (for Namajapam) while the Jamaatis/Shaheen bagh scums/Delhi rioters/Palghar Sadhu killers are still happily continuing with their criminal activities.
I have found the BJP to be helpful in some cases. If people remember the Modi chant in a Bangalore tech park and multiple techies being arrested, one of them happened to be my colleague. Not only did the BJP legal cell get them out, they also offered them senior post in the IT cell. I think the cases are gone .
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kvraghav wrote:
Krita wrote: No union leader helped these guys and some of them still have pending police cases against them (for Namajapam) while the Jamaatis/Shaheen bagh scums/Delhi rioters/Palghar Sadhu killers are still happily continuing with their criminal activities.
I have found the BJP to be helpful in some cases. If people remember the Modi chant in a Bangalore tech park during Rahul visit and multiple techies being arrested, one of them happened to be my colleague. Not only did the BJP legal cell get them out, they also offered them senior post in the IT cell. I think the cases are gone .
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Krita wrote:
Ambar wrote:
BJP have to get rid of deadweights like Pakya, Ravi Shankar and Rupani. Modi needs to give no quarter to the BIF, they were down after the 2014 loss.But, the Prithiviraj syndrome has again dealt a blow to the efforts of destroying the ecosystem.
The true sangh are fearless and time and time again that has been displayed. I personally know the people who had taken a big risk and participated in the Sabarimala protest. One of the guys (an ex army Major) passed away recently due to pneumonia ( he hadn't taken care of his health during the daily protest at sannidhanam).
No union leader helped these guys and some of them still have pending police cases against them (for Namajapam) while the Jamaatis/Shaheen bagh scums/Delhi rioters/Palghar Sadhu killers are still happily continuing with their criminal activities.
While i agree BJP's second rung leaders are useless, its youth shows a lot of promise and i hope they are honed well. What BJP needs are shrewd politicians like Pramod Mahajan who knew how to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds at the same time. Imagine what Modi, Shah, BJP karyakartas, RSS and VHP pracharaks and karyakartas went though during the UPA days, right now the pro-national party (since there's only one) and various nationalist organizations are like chain of local tea stalls trying to take on the might of McDonalds and defeating them in their own game. We have seen it is possible but we also know we need time, patience, faith and infrastructure. I once again reiterate, Arnab's 12 and a half hour interrogation would never have happened under Devendra Fadnavis, lets also not forget that barring Fadnavis' 5 year term, and a fractured BJP-Sena turbulent 4 year govt in mid-90s, Maharashtra has remained the bastion of Congress, it still has plenty of soldiers and a strong ecosystem . We see how Modi operates as we saw in case of Col. Purohit and Sadhvi Pragya, they let the law take its course and when truth prevailed Sadhvi was given the ticket to Parliament and an opportunity to defeat the very man who orchestrated her imprisonment and torture. This is not a battle for the faint hearted nor will we win in 5 or 10 years.

Arnab went straight to the studios after 12 hours of marathon interrogation and called Sonia Antonia Maino again.
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shaun wrote: you are quite right , people who are not affiliated to any organization , who voluntarily or involuntarily , doing their bits to counter the false narrative being propagate by BIFs , should be very cautious . from the latest episode of somnath das (https://theprint.in/india/man-behind-vi ... ty/407172/) to the police action on fruit sellers for putting Bhagwa Dhwaj in Jhakhand and Bihar , not a single statement from bjp .
Former Jharkhand CM and BJP Karyakartas from the Ranchi office met the fruit vendor and the police have already dropped the case. Again, this is what happens when BJP does not have power in states.
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Ambar wrote:
Krita wrote:
While i agree BJP's second rung leaders are useless, its youth shows a lot of promise and i hope they are honed well. What BJP needs are shrewd politicians like Pramod Mahajan who knew how to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds at the same time. Imagine what Modi, Shah, BJP karyakartas, RSS and VHP pracharaks and karyakartas went though during the UPA days, right now the pro-national party (since there's only one) and various nationalist organizations are like chain of local tea stalls trying to take on the might of McDonalds and defeating them in their own game. We have seen it is possible but we also know we need time, patience, faith and infrastructure. I once again reiterate, Arnab's 12 and a half hour interrogation would never have happened under Devendra Fadnavis, lets also not forget that barring Fadnavis' 5 year term, and a fractured BJP-Sena turbulent 4 year govt in mid-90s, Maharashtra has remained the bastion of Congress, it still has plenty of soldiers and a strong ecosystem . We see how Modi operates as we saw in case of Col. Purohit and Sadhvi Pragya, they let the law take its course and when truth prevailed Sadhvi was given the ticket to Parliament and an opportunity to defeat the very man who orchestrated her imprisonment and torture. This is not a battle for the faint hearted nor will we win in 5 or 10 years.

Arnab went straight to the studios after 12 hours of marathon interrogation and called Sonia Antonia Maino again.
Agree with this view. Look at scums of BIF and racist international pig sh1t that manufactures fake outrage at the drop of the hat. The filth has lost its credibility. MAD has to work behind the shadows and weaken the ITALIAN sh1t gang and terrorist infra now operated by Pawar gang with idiot UT at the fore front. Scums have their hands full with Corona virus going up and up but their focus is to kill sadhus and arrest a journalist for 12 hours.

Hope Arnab keeps up the offensive and BJP works behind scenes to screw UT
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need to reach much higher and grab the real culprit by the testimonials.

you will find a congi behind this act of political vandalism and a senior darbari baboo(n) who pulled the trigger

this is a well planned act of sabotage.

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UT grills Arnab for 9 hrs in his first year as minister of any kind. Fadnavis was busy giving interviews to Nikhil waghle in his 5th year as CM.
Who is the real pappu ?
Valid question, IMHO.

You have to say this, BIF have killer instinct and ruthlessness, something we sorely lack.
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UT is acting on SG's orders. Everything he says or does has to be cleared by 10 Janpath with the implicit or perhaps explicit threat of the rug being pulled from under his feet if he disobeys. He is little more than a puppet. I only wish Bal Thackeray was alive to see his son reduced to a Gandhi family bootlicker.
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Frankly, it's not that any of this is unexpected from BIF.

The galling thing is sheer lack of follow through even in legitimate cases against BIF.

303 seats, 0 balls is the popular opinion on teetar.
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For all the Rakshaks, if there's nothing on the ground you can do then please atleast be on Twitter, Instagram to counter fake narrative and BIF. Also, please unsubscribe to trash like NDTV, India Today, Indian Express, Hindustan Times etc and subscribe to Republic, WION, India TV and make small donations to little guys flying the national flag like OpIndia and Swarajya. Atleast social media gives us a platform to counter BIF even if its in micro-messages, where as the first 60+ years after independence there was no counter to the one-directional narrative.
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Rahul M wrote:Frankly, it's not that any of this is unexpected from BIF.

The galling thing is sheer lack of follow through even in legitimate cases against BIF.

303 seats, 0 balls is the popular opinion on teetar.
There are two organs where the BJP's opponents are strong:
* Media
* Judiciary
The latter are becoming more manageable (e.g. Ayodhya case verdict, parrying several motivated PILs during CAA protests), but the former have been essentially a bulwark of the INC ecosystem. It's worth noting that even R Jaggi is a member of the Editor's Guild, and he's not been vocal about the Arnab issue.

On the other hand, the INC ecosystem have no purchase in any aspect of national legislative power. They're unable to even put their relative influence in RS to use, having let CAA pass.

Humans are general loss averse. We almost always feel the value of a loss more than we acknowledge the extent of a gain. Even in investing, a 30% loss is far more painful than the pleasure of a 30% gain. Similarly, we never quite fully acknowledge the extent of carefully managed success using the extent of legislative and executive control the BJP does have today, but will happily berate the fact that some kangaroo court inquest was set up to browbeat a journo. Not that it worked - the guy went straight back to studio and continued the same tirade after all.

People also accuse the BJP of not having used its '303' for any purpose. I beg to differ. The ancestor of the BJP was created on the base of two (arguably three) major planks:
a) Article 370 - the reason Syama Prasad Mukherjee originally quit INC in disgust, back in 1950.
b) Transfer of populations, with beneficial movement of non-Muslims to India
The third item is UCC.

They have had these in their manifestos dating back to 1980, and probably even BJS had these in their manifestos . Within six months of their 303, they have implemented two of them - the first via the end of state of J&K, and the second via CAA. It takes an assiduous focus on their aims to execute in this manner, after waiting ~40 years as a current party, and 70+ years including its prior political avatars - for a chance to sit upon a simple majority to do its job.

The party that ruled India for 60+ years and most recently attempted to push through extreme left 'progressive' repression, is now condemned to 10 years without even a place at the table of most legislative entities, never mind actual power. It doesn't even have LOP status. Through PM CARES, they've been split from central relief funds. They have no levers, and only one reliable power base - the media.

The media are paradoxically the most easiest thing for the public today - thanks to SM - to take apart. The media has no coercive state power backing it. It's simply an influential power circle whose influence is dictated by the fact that more people passively receive news from them, than people use SM to discredit them. Therein lies the solution - state power directed against the press is bad optics, but SM attacking MSM is great optics.
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The usual sorry-a$$ specter of "panic in the ranks" as soon as something starts to not go the way we want it. All these shenanigans backed by Congis are just an increasingly desperate strategy by the Congi inner circle (Antonia, Pappu, and a few other die-hards). Reminds me of the third reich in 1944.

The fact that they reduced to this shows there is not much left. Given experience in MP and other states, Congis are finding that even winning elections is not enough any more, the battle to keep things together after the election is even more exhausting.

Modi, Shah, et al after literally having gone through Congi hell for 15 years will not be planning to lose the voters and let Congis come back again in New Delhi.

Every promise made has been/is being delivered on. In 2014 people were laughing about the lack of any chance of 370, RJB, TT law, NRC, CAA, etc ever becoming reality.

You need to be able to ignore the distractions and stay focused. I have to say Trump's twitter strategy is a good one. Keep the other side focused on criticizing what comes out of your twitter account and spending less time thinking about why fewer people are buying into liberal/socialist agendas any more.
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CBDT charges three IRS officers for 'tax hike' report, 'misguiding' young taxmen - Times of India

TIMESOFINDIA.COM | Updated: Apr 27, 2020, 23:28 IST

NEW DELHI: The Central Board of Direct Taxes

CBDT) has named three senior Indian Revenue Service (IRS) officers in its chargesheet on Monday for creating policy uncertainty and panic by unauthorisedly publishing 'tax hike' report and 'misguiding' young taxmen.

The three IRS officers -- Sanjay Bahadur (principal director investigation, northeast region; 1989 batch), Shri Prakash Dubey (director DOPT, IRS Association's joint secretary; 2001 batch) and Prashant Bhushan (principal commissioner of income tax, Delhi, and IRS Association's general secretary; 1988 batch) -- have been given 15 days' time to submit a written response in their defence to the charge sheets and also on whether they want to be heard in person.

These officers also have been divested of their current duties on charges of violating Rules 9 and 3(1)(xx) of the Central Civil Service Conduct Rules.

The CBDT is the policy-making body for the income tax (I-T) department that collects revenue for the government.

It all started when a group of 46 under-training and recently commissioned tax officers penned a paper calling for taxing the super-rich and foreign companies to pay for fighting coronavirus pandemic. Then, their association promptly forwarded it to the government and posted it on Twitter only to clarify in less than 24 hours that the work doesn't reflect the opinion of entire revenue service officers and an apparently unhappy government said an inquiry will be launched.

This is the curious story of a report which suggested raising the highest tax slab rate to 40 per cent for income above a minimum threshold of Rs 1 crore or re-introduction of wealth tax for those with a net wealth of Rs 5 crore or more to help pay for the coronavirus economic fallout.

About a third of the 46 Indian Revenue Services (IRS) officers, whose name appears in credits in the 43-page report, had joined the service in 2018 and 2019 and should have been undergoing the mandatory two-year training at Nagpur-based National Academy of Direct Taxes (NADT) that is headed by senior tax officer Alka Tyagi.

The verified Twitter handle of the association had on April 25 evening posted: "Almost 50 young IRS officers submit policy suggestions for reviving India's economy, post COVID-19." The handle posted the full 43-page paper titled 'FORCE' or Fiscal Options & Response to COVID-19 Epidemic on April 26 morning.

But as the suggestion drew flak from Twitterati who said governments around the globe are offering stimulus in form of tax cuts to deal with the COVID-19 crisis, the IRS Association by evening clarified. "The paper FORCE by 50 young IRS officers suggesting policy measures had been forwarded by IRSA to CBDT for consideration. It does not purport to represent the official views of the entire IRS, or the IT Dept," it said.

The I-T department also in a tweet said the report did not reflect the official views of the CBDT and the finance ministry. It said an inquiry was being launched into why the report was shared with the public.

"There is some report circulating on social media regarding suggestions by a few IRS officers on tackling Covid-19 situation. It is unequivocally stated that CBDT never asked IRS Association or these officers to prepare such a report," the department tweeted late on Sunday evening.
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Sanjeev Bhatt - CON ITALIAN woman's filthy agent was crapping on Modi/Shah like crazed mad dog just like a lap dog even after 2014. No one touched him.
Where is he now? Same thing with Gowdas.

The focus is right now on Corona. Italian Trash can and her forces want to divert Modi/BJP and challenging them with barbaric murders of Sadhus. They want him to dismiss UT or want some Hindutvas to go and attack missionaries. We can't take their bait.

I am sure Arnab is working with support of BJP the way he has come out of the Police station with all guns blazing. We need a diversion technique of awakening Hindus w/o BIF/Islamists/White racists all uniting to egg on peaceful to do riots every day and every where. This is where Arnab is aiming at. Push Italian and missionary angle to open up eyes of Indians. No matter what you do, terrorists/BIF/ISI/Conversion gangs/white racists are all together in their mission . Their plan is to kill/provoke/maim/rape Indians as long as we resist their invasion and not roll over while their agents put the pressure in the media.
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vijayk » Agree with you 100%!

We need to confront this menace the smart way. The dumb way is to do something which the EJ's/BIF/WaPo mafia can exploit. I believe there were WaPo and other media articles and opinion pieces when RundyTV owner was offloaded from a departing flight for economic issues. Since no one else is going to do it, Arnab needs to question why TOIlet, and other Indian media, WaPo etc havent come to his defense.

Since the other side claim media is untouchable despite their antinational activities, the media route is the best route, other than the judiciaiary. Thus far all media has been bought and paid for, until Arnab. I hope his organization has the depth to manage this.
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^^^
+1

Arnab can still go on working after he resigned from the editor's guild as someone pointed out because he owns the network. No one else with some level of conscience sided with him to say "Arnab is correct" - even though everyone can see that editorial management of media has been squandered way back.let's see how the rest of the media realign themselves given lower and lower readership/viewership before we make it a political fight.
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Kaivalya wrote:^^^
+1

Arnab can still go on working after he resigned from the editor's guild as someone pointed out because he owns the network. No one else with some level of conscience sided with him to say "Arnab is correct" - even though everyone can see that editorial management of media has been squandered way back.let's see how the rest of the media realign themselves given lower and lower readership/viewership before we make it a political fight.
we need to identify, reward and recruit new generation/younger articulate reporters. Palki Sharma @palkisu of WION is
logical, rational, less emotional, credible and articulate
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chetak wrote:need to reach much higher and grab the real culprit by the testimonials.

you will find a congi behind this act of political vandalism and a senior darbari baboo(n) who pulled the trigger

this is a well planned act of sabotage.

ANI@ANI
Three Senior IRS officers issued chargesheets, for creating policy uncertainty and panic by unauthorisedly publishing tax hike report and misguiding younger officers: CBDT (Central Board of Direct Taxes) Sources
10:22 PM · Apr 27, 2020

right on cue: here is the unmistakable congi link

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It is completely unacceptable to repeatedly post whole articles without even a link. You have been requested many times. Next time posts will simply go poof.
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TIL that immediately after the new Aghadi government came to power, it appointed the same Param Bir Singh as Mumbai Police commissioner who has been accused of intense physical torture by Col. Purohit & Sadhvi Pragya while in custody.

https://www.pgurus.com/shocking-letter- ... ng-crimes/

https://twitter.com/RajatSharmaLive/sta ... 6073976837

https://www.outlookindia.com/newswire/s ... ody/637698

Ohh, also the threats to parade the wives & daughters of the arrested army officers naked in police station.

Another accused and retired army officer Ramesh Upadhyay alleged he was tortured by Additional Commissioner of Police (ATS) Parambir Singh and Sukhwinder Singh in custody.

"Parambir and Sukhwinder physically abused me and then threatened to parade my wife and daughter naked in the police station and get them raped by all the officers here," Upadhyay said.

Today the same police commissioner also sent 2 notices within 12 hours to Arnab for interrogation & we all saw how police was used today. Given the past of Param Bir Singh, what more can we expect in Maharashtra in the future?

But I don't understand how come these officers are still in the force despite all this? How come they were not suspended during the BJP-Sena rule?
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Ambar wrote:For all the Rakshaks, if there's nothing on the ground you can do then please atleast be on Twitter, Instagram to counter fake narrative and BIF. Also, please unsubscribe to trash like NDTV, India Today, Indian Express, Hindustan Times etc and subscribe to Republic, WION, India TV and make small donations to little guys flying the national flag like OpIndia and Swarajya. Atleast social media gives us a platform to counter BIF even if its in micro-messages, where as the first 60+ years after independence there was no counter to the one-directional narrative.
We are doing our bits , but time have come to combine our skill for better usage , these days all political parties are getting tech savvy and profiling of handles using the state machinery have become prevalent . From targeting FB profiles to Whatsapp , progression is towards Twitter . People here who are outside India are immune to this and can be more vocal . For instance they can directly give counter argument to prominent political handles .Apart from that , with such a focused group , the numerical advantage of political handles in with their paid bots can be negated to some extent .
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Suraj San, KLPD ji,
Why on earth would you think that I am unaware of the positive steps taken ??

Yes, I admit those were much needed and kudos for taking them. However, on many multitude of issues, from countering subversive narratives and movements, checking political violence to much needed reform in education, govt. has sadly dropped the ball.
I am all for democratic values and shebang but the current dispensation seems eager to uphold it both in letter and spirit. IMHO, that is overkill. following democratic norms to the letter is enough and provides enough elbow room to throttle down BIF well within the bounds of established legal procedures.
But no, a very generous policy of ahimsa is being followed towards BIF. What happened to the case against Vadra, NDTV, Gandhi's, TMC etc etc ??
If there are no consequences of attacking India and conversely, no support when you fight for her, the tilt in the ecosystem is not going to change, now, or 50 years from now. What happens when God forbid, BIF come to power in the next decade ?
Without a strong institution building effort, all gains will be lost in a matter of days.

Btw, I know the logic goes that this is all chankian onlee, that this is for opening the eyes of the majority and all that. In all fairness, as far as I can tell there's some truth to that. However the line needs to be drawn when people's lives and belongings are at risk. That is rajdharma. The only place that has done so in recent times is UP and that is why YA has increasingly taken the place in aam aadmi's heart that NM used to occupy.
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Suraj wrote: People also accuse the BJP of not having used its '303' for any purpose. I beg to differ. The ancestor of the BJP was created on the base of two (arguably three) major planks:
a) Article 370 - the reason Syama Prasad Mukherjee originally quit INC in disgust, back in 1950.
b) Transfer of populations, with beneficial movement of non-Muslims to India
The third item is UCC.
The second point is being addressed by CAA , i have this wild theory , one of the main reason for this move is to arrest the the replacement level of Dharmics which is getting low compared to the peacefools in each census. UCC if implemented will improve this situation. If you just check the recent reports of alleged riot victim from the peaceful community , maximum have 5 to 6 kids , even one family in Delhi with corona positive have 21 members having husband and two wives and balance all their kids :shock:
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So anyone has any solution for present singe source situation?
they are significant portion of our urban population and they are not cooperating with the police or health officials. how are we going to reopen our main economy hubs?
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