I have been getting Izlamic charitable foundation ads when I was watching Sham Sharma Show, any coincidencedarshan wrote:What's up with onslaught of very well curated ads of Shan on YouTube?
Gotta give pukes about always knowing how to use PR to punch above their weight.
Well paki taxpayers are in for a ride while Chinese keep stealing away as usual.
Sirji, those hundreds of billions of dollars were taken out and invested in the West. Who in their right mind would invest any thing in Pukeland?sanjaykumar wrote: Why is Pakistan such a dump? After all the Americans pumped in perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars over seventy years.How do they reconcile their self image of poets and conquerors with this:
True, DHA and others developments such as Baharia can give well developed cities a run for their money. That kind of stark difference doesn't exist in India where rich are far richer than Pakis. May be hindu bania doesn't know how to live life of opulence..yensoy wrote:TFTA Pakjabis rarely make their way to these areas. They spend their lives in Isloo, Lahore or Margalla hills when they are not in Londonistan, and these areas are kept pretty clean.
Imran Khan government in Pakistan blocked social networking platform Twitter and video conferencing platform Zoom for a couple of hours on Sunday. However, users were able to access the same through VPN (Virtual Private Network). Many Twitter users also took to the microblogging site to express that Twitter was blocked in Pakistan.
Many Pakistani Twitter users called it a tactic to suppress their voice.
TOI LINK"Today or tomorrow, if my country needs me anywhere, even if at the border, I will be the first one to pick up a gun for the sake of my country."
Harbhajan said that he had made the contribution to Afridi's foundation as a humanitarian gesture but he said that his relationship with the former Pakistan all-founder has come to an end.
"One person asks me to make an appeal for the sake of humanity, and I did my bit. That was it. I have no relation or tie-up with any Shahid Afridi from here on," he said.
KJo wrote:Unfortunately a lot of Indian Punjabis tend to get swayed by paki propagandoo of "common culture and longvaje". Reality is today Indians all over the country have culture more similar than ever before, and distinct from the crazies across the border.
Is there any reference on what part of India was claimed by ML for partition? The current lines are drawn by the British, but ML must have had their wet dreams.schinnas wrote: Pakistan is ISIS v1.0 - a country founded on the principle that muslims cannot live in harmony with non muslims. All the issues of muslims not integrating with other population one sees all over the world can be traced to Pakistan. The ideology of Pakistan must be defeated for Islam to progress. No country has done more harm to global muslim umma than Pakistan.
Pray where did you come up with that line of thought. It is the Indian Punjabis that strapped grenades to their bodies and lay in the path of advancing Puki tanks to protect fellow citizens. This type of posting is typical of Indians and our innate tendency to divide ourselves into regions, castes.... Everyone blaming everyone else. Yograj and Harbhajan - 2 INDIAN players of Punjabi descent did something distasteful to every Indian. Not a single Indian of Punjabi descent has defended their actions. They have been roundly criticized. They may have been fooled or had some motive that was not declared. Why has a case not been filed against them so far and why are they not tried in a court of law?KJo wrote:Unfortunately a lot of Indian Punjabis tend to get swayed by paki propagandoo of "common culture and longvaje". Reality is today Indians all over the country have culture more similar than ever before, and distinct from the crazies across the border.
Calm down please.Vivek K wrote:Pray where did you come up with that line of thought. It is the Indian Punjabis that strapped grenades to their bodies and lay in the path of advancing Puki tanks to protect fellow citizens. This type of posting is typical of Indians and our innate tendency to divide ourselves into regions, castes.... Everyone blaming everyone else. Yograj and Harbhajan - 2 INDIAN players of Punjabi descent did something distasteful to every Indian. Not a single Indian of Punjabi descent has defended their actions. They have been roundly criticized. They may have been fooled or had some motive that was not declared. Why has a case not been filed against them so far and why are they not tried in a court of law?KJo wrote:Unfortunately a lot of Indian Punjabis tend to get swayed by paki propagandoo of "common culture and longvaje". Reality is today Indians all over the country have culture more similar than ever before, and distinct from the crazies across the border.
But I will ask BRADMINs to take action against this poster for an unnecessary flame bait and attack on citizens of India without any reason. What the effing hell do you mean by "common culture and longvaje"? Residents of West Bengal speak Bengali like Bangladeshis - are they accused of favoring Bangladesh? How dare you cast aspersions on Punjabis. Please apologize and delete your post which I am also reporting to Admins.
Choudhry Rahmat Ali, who actually came up with the name Pakistan, drew a mapnam wrote: Is there any reference on what part of India was claimed by ML for partition? The current lines are drawn by the British, but ML must have had their wet dreams.
Rehmat Ali’s concept of Pakistan was nebulous, impractical and fantasy-ridden. It was to include the entire northwest of India, Kashmir, the Kathiawar peninsula, Kutch, and several enclaves deep within UP, including Delhi and Lucknow. There were to be two independent Muslim states besides Pakistan: Bangistan comprising Bengal and Assam in the east and Osmanistan in the south. These two were to form a federation with Pakistan. The 243 principalities or Rajwaras were to be divided among caste Hindus and “others” and then herded together in a ghetto called Hanoodia. As for the Sikhs, they were to be pushed into an enclave called Sikhia. Other races and religions were to inhabit an encampment by the name of Hanadika. Every non-Muslim was to remain subservient to the master race he called “The Paks”. And yes, the subcontinent was to be renamed Dinia
Ah, thank you. This fits in perfectly to what I thought. I expected Delhi to be included and it is.Gerard wrote:
Choudhry Rahmat Ali, who actually came up with the name Pakistan, drew a map
According to Khalid Hasan ....Rehmat Ali’s concept of Pakistan was nebulous, impractical and fantasy-ridden. It was to include the entire northwest of India, Kashmir, the Kathiawar peninsula, Kutch, and several enclaves deep within UP, including Delhi and Lucknow. There were to be two independent Muslim states besides Pakistan: Bangistan comprising Bengal and Assam in the east and Osmanistan in the south. These two were to form a federation with Pakistan. The 243 principalities or Rajwaras were to be divided among caste Hindus and “others” and then herded together in a ghetto called Hanoodia. As for the Sikhs, they were to be pushed into an enclave called Sikhia. Other races and religions were to inhabit an encampment by the name of Hanadika. Every non-Muslim was to remain subservient to the master race he called “The Paks”. And yes, the subcontinent was to be renamed Dinia
Sir ji not Punjabis but people from the Lutyens zone like Mani Shankar Aiyar, Shekhar Dupatta, Kuldip Nayyar, IK Gujral, et all. These people were/are suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome due to partition riots.KJo wrote:Unfortunately a lot of Indian Punjabis tend to get swayed by paki propagandoo of "common culture and longvaje". Reality is today Indians all over the country have culture more similar than ever before, and distinct from the crazies across the border.
Jinnah demanded six provinces of India and opposed the dividing of Bengal and Punjab. He wanted entire provinces and complained that Radcliffe and Mountbatten had given him a “moth eaten” Pakistan. Mountbatten was also later accused of deliberately drawing a border that gave India land access to Jammu and Kashmir.nam wrote:
Ah, thank you. This fits in perfectly to what I thought. I expected Delhi to be included and it is.
They have claimed most of the fertile areas. But ignored Rajasthan with it's desert!
Notice how those enclaves in the Center and near UP, Bengal can easily be connected on a later day, by force. Fundamentally cutting off 3/4 of the country..
This delusional map should be made viral, specially to western people on twitter. To explain why Paks are how they are and their dreams.
The question of a division of India, as proposed by the Muslim League, is based on the fundamental fact that there are two nations- Hindus and Muslims- and the underlying principle is that we want a national home and a national state in our homelands which are predominately Muslim and compromise the six units of the Punjab, the N.W.F.P., Sind, Baluchistan, Bengal and Assam. This will give the Hindus their national home and a national state of Hindustan, which means three-fourths of British India.
” Now the question of partitioning Bengal and the Punjab is raised, not with a ‘bona fide’ object, as a sinister move actuated by spite and bitterness, as they feel that India is going to be divided, firstly to create more difficulties in the way for the British Government and the Viceroy and secondly to unnerve the Muslims by opening and repeatedly emphasising that the Muslims will get a truncated or mutilated moth-eaten Pakistan. This clamour is not based on any sound principle, except that the Hindu minorities in the Punjab and Bengal wish to cut up these provinces and cut up their own people into two in these Provinces. The Hindus have their homelands, as I have said, consisting of six vast Provinces. Merely because a proportion of the minorities in the Pakistan Provinces have taken up this attitude with the British Government should not countenance it, because the result of that will be logically that all other Provinces will have to be cut up in similar way, which will be dangerous, as to embark on this line will lead to a breaking up of various Provinces and create a far more dangerous situation in the future than at present. If such a process were to be adopted it will strike at the root of the administrative, economic and political life of the Provinces which have for nearly a century developed and built up on that basis and have grown as functioning under present constitution as autonomous provinces.
It is obvious that if the Hindu minorities in Pakistan wish to emigrate and go to their homelands of Hindustan they will be at liberty to do so and ‘vice versa’ and those Muslims who wish to emigrate from Hindustan can do so and go to Pakistan; and sooner or later an exchange of population will have to take place and Constituent Assemblies of Pakistan and Hindustan can take up the matter and subsequently the respective Governments in Pakistan and Hindustan can effectively carry out an exchange of population wherever it may be necessary and feasible.
Totally agree. This type of thinking is preposterous. Harbhajan and Yuvraj have admitted their error and have spoken out against Afridi. Granted that may not be enough but their actions - are theirs alone. The Punjabis as a group have denounced this.SBajwa wrote:Sir ji not Punjabis but people from the Lutyens zone like Mani Shankar Aiyar, Shekhar Dupatta, Kuldip Nayyar, IK Gujral, et all. These people were/are suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome due to partition riots.KJo wrote:Unfortunately a lot of Indian Punjabis tend to get swayed by paki propagandoo of "common culture and longvaje". Reality is today Indians all over the country have culture more similar than ever before, and distinct from the crazies across the border.
Add MMS to the list. Most of these people were born in Pakistan and despite witnessing the horrors of the partition, have some weird longing for Pakistan, even if it comes at the cost of throwing India under the bus.SBajwa wrote:Sir ji not Punjabis but people from the Lutyens zone like Mani Shankar Aiyar, Shekhar Dupatta, Kuldip Nayyar, IK Gujral, et all. These people were/are suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome due to partition riots.KJo wrote:Unfortunately a lot of Indian Punjabis tend to get swayed by paki propagandoo of "common culture and longvaje". Reality is today Indians all over the country have culture more similar than ever before, and distinct from the crazies across the border.
BartjiBart S wrote:Add MMS to the list. Most of these people were born in Pakistan and despite witnessing the horrors of the partition, have some weird longing for Pakistan, even if it comes at the cost of throwing India under the bus.SBajwa wrote:
Sir ji not Punjabis but people from the Lutyens zone like Mani Shankar Aiyar, Shekhar Dupatta, Kuldip Nayyar, IK Gujral, et all. These people were/are suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome due to partition riots.
Sure - the father of India's economic revival must belong in that list, right. The true patriots like VP Singh by killing the economy and bringing India down lower than Pukis are the ones we should worship, right.While we're at it (till the Admins intervene) where would you place Chidambaran - slayer of the Indian economy, to the believers in India or the believers in Pakistan list.Bart S wrote:Add MMS to the list. Most of these people were born in Pakistan and despite witnessing the horrors of the partition, have some weird longing for Pakistan, even if it comes at the cost of throwing India under the bus.SBajwa wrote:
Sir ji not Punjabis but people from the Lutyens zone like Mani Shankar Aiyar, Shekhar Dupatta, Kuldip Nayyar, IK Gujral, et all. These people were/are suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome due to partition riots.
Well said. Being a punjabi myself, I have never heard anyone yearning for the other side other than maybe food. In fact, my first discussion with a colleague went as follows:Vivek K wrote:Sure - the father of India's economic revival must belong in that list, right. The true patriots like VP Singh by killing the economy and bringing India down lower than Pukis are the ones we should worship, right.While we're at it (till the Admins intervene) where would you place Chidambaran - slayer of the Indian economy, to the believers in India or the believers in Pakistan list.Bart S wrote:
Add MMS to the list. Most of these people were born in Pakistan and despite witnessing the horrors of the partition, have some weird longing for Pakistan, even if it comes at the cost of throwing India under the bus.
This divisiveness helps no one but India's enemies. This frequent attacks on punjabis must stop. There is no love lost between Indian punjabis and pukistan. My ancestral home is 15 km from the border in Batala, District Gurdaspur. My grandfather was a pioneer in private bus transport and had started Himalaya Bus Service before partition. During partition, his Muslim drivers drove all buses to Pukistan crippling his livelihood forever. HBS never rose to strength again. My maternal grandfather lost everything with partition - from being a rich business owner in Lahore to a refugee overnight in Delhi. But I don't hate Pukistan only because of my personal perspective. Do I yearn for Pakistan - my mother and her family yearned to see their house in Lahore once again. Did they yearn to get Pukistan back - not once did I hear that sentiment. I suspect that is the stuff Pukis put out to take a breather and recover till they can attack again.
So I think that your racism is showing friends - that is the only appropriate word for it. And quite curiously, the Admins seem ok with this flame war and pointless waste of bandwith. Maybe the problem is larger than I thought.
